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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    You blame Biden for all the wars that are happening all over the world, such as Ukraine and Israel, etc etc. Ok fair.
    Yet you don’t blame Trump for any of the wars happening around the world under his term. Funny.

    If you wanna apply the same principle to Trump as you do to Biden then no, Trump was nowhere near the most peaceful president since Ford.
    Now do wars started while each president was in office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    You blame Biden for all the wars that are happening all over the world, such as Ukraine and Israel, etc etc. Ok fair.
    Yet you don’t blame Trump for any of the wars happening around the world under his term. Funny.

    If you wanna apply the same principle to Trump as you do to Biden then no, Trump was nowhere near the most peaceful president since Ford.
    Serious question: Do you agree that up until recently (and by recently I specifically mean since Biden’s inauguration) Europeans were generally content with the peace & prosperity they have enjoyed since WW2 since we Americans saved their collective asses / rebuilt their countries / propped up their economies / brought them under our sphere of military protection? Its inhabitants seem to forget their continent had prior been in a constant state of warfare since ancient times. What’s changed now that the barbaric hordes of Asia and the Middle East are once again pounding the door at their boundary gates? I’ll tell you exactly what it is. We have an American President that is weaker, dumber, and more foolish when it comes to foreign policy than Neville Chamberlin was as prime minister to the UK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfster View Post
    Assassinating an Iran general
    You still pushing Democrat talking points?

    The dude was a terrorist who was responsible for the deaths of dozens of American troops.

    Remember when you all gobbled down that lie that Russians were putting bounties on American troops and Trump ignored it and you were all just so shocked? Now suddenly a terrorist is an "Iran general." What a joke.

    You probably also believed Hamas when they said Israel bombed a hospital and killed 500 people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anebriated View Post
    Now do wars started while each president was in office.
    I already did that earlier, and Trump had 250+ wars started during his presidency or some shit, while Biden was at 130 or something. Methais asked me. We even talked about it remember?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet View Post
    Serious question: Do you agree that up until recently (and by recently I specifically mean since Biden’s inauguration) Europeans were generally content with the peace & prosperity they have enjoyed since WW2 since we Americans saved their collective asses / rebuilt their countries / propped up their economies / brought them under our sphere of military protection? Its inhabitants seem to forget their continent had prior been in a constant state of warfare since ancient times. What’s changed now that the barbaric hordes of Asia and the Middle East are once again pounding the door at their boundary gates? I’ll tell you exactly what it is. We have an American President that is weaker, dumber, and more foolish when it comes to foreign policy than Neville Chamberlin was as prime minister to the UK.
    Of course I agree with you, but military is only one thing as well. Economy, sphere of influence, shared information, support etc all play an important role.

    The next major world word, is going to be an economic one, and right now, we have all the strongest economies except China on our side, and that’s due to Biden, as Trump hurt our relations abroad, and around the world. But I don’t agree with you about the Biden’s foreign policy aspect.

    No matter how you put it when you have dictators like North Korea and Russia praising Donald Trump. That’s a big fucking problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    I already did that earlier, and Trump had 250+ wars started during his presidency or some shit, while Biden was at 130 or something. Methais asked me. We even talked about it remember?
    This isn’t the argument you want to make. You have to know the difference between a farmer throwing a Molotov cocktail and getting involved with Ukraine and now Israel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anebriated View Post
    This isn’t the argument you want to make. You have to know the difference between a farmer throwing a Molotov cocktail and getting involved with Ukraine and now Israel.
    You’re right, that Molotov cocktail was responsible for 500+ deaths.

    Or the Tigray war, that Molotov cocktail has killed over 1500 people.

    Trump is 100% responsible for the Tigray war and all of those deaths. If he was a better leader and a stronger leader, they wouldn’t have gone to war. It’s his fault. His weak presidency is the reason. It couldn’t be any other reason. None at all. /end sarcasm


    But either way, you now have specific requirements? How many people need to die, before a president is to blame? Or who needs to be involved for the president to take the blame?

    The right consistently blames Biden for every little thing that goes wrong, fine, ok, expect the same treatment regarding Trump’s presidency.

    Serious question for you. Let’s do a what if. Let’s imagine Trump won a second term, and let’s imagine Putin invaded Ukraine under Trump, what would Trump have done differently than Biden?

    Don’t give the bullshit reply of “he wouldn’t have done” such horse shit.
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    You want him to be at fault so bad... I cant believe we have to keep going down this road. Tell me how much involvement do we have with Ethiopia? Now tell me how involved are we with Ukraine and Israel? There is a very real line of delineation here and it comes down to our hands are in these current situations vs what you are trying to lay at Trumps feet. Im sorry that everything has to be so cut and dry for you and you are incapable of seeing the reality of the situation. THE BIDEN FAMILY IS DIRECTLY INVESTED IN UKRAINE. Can you really not see how that is different than a re-escalation of a civil war from the 90's?

    As for what Trump would have done differently its pretty simple. He would have shut down Ukraines bid to join NATO and given up the bio-labs(that hunter is profiting from). If its real, he would have shut down the baby factories too. Basically he wouldn't have supported and sent weapons and money the Nazi's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    Let’s imagine Trump won a second term, and let’s imagine Putin invaded Ukraine under Trump, what would Trump have done differently than Biden?
    Imagine if Biden falls over and Kalama becomes President, tears down the borders and embraces Hamas as a world power. What would Jimmy Carter have done differently?
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