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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet View Post
    They deserve whoever comes next, and the Democrats will be whining about how they wish they had someone as reasonable as McCarthy as Speaker.
    A one time thing of him working with the Democrats to save his own skin and his own parties reputation..
    He has a history of consistently not working with the Democrats and ignoring them. He also consistently does things just to piss off the Democrats. He has said on record that he will not work with the Democrats or give them any concessions to even save his job, or in the future.

    That’s not reasonable at all, in the eyes of the Democrats.
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    The real issue comes down to the foreign aid. Most conservatives are tired of spending abroad when we have so many issues at home and are tired of printing money we don’t have. No matter who is selected this is exactly what is going to be pressed for their votes. Jordan and Gaetz are very conservative which is going to make it harder to get them elected, typically it’s someone more in the middle that can pull the whole party together, but the aid(laundering) to Ukraine and Israel is what will be put on the table to get those last few votes.

    This is also why McCarthy was ousted. He worked with the dems against the majority of his party to send more aid to Ukraine after he told people he would reel it in when he was named speaker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    Meanwhile, the only video footage to be released during Republican control of the House went to Tucker Carlson and strangely enough, a man pulling a fire alarm. Lol
    Why is that? Why hasn't all the footage been released?

    Tucker showed just a fraction of the amount of footage that is actually available and I'm sure he cherry picked the spots to show.

    Release ALL of the footage and let the American public see what actually happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    The only people you should be blaming are Gaetz and his far right wing nut jobs, and McCarthy himself for giving so many concessions to win himself speaker.
    Poor Soykern... so confused by numbers and math..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anebriated View Post
    The real issue comes down to the foreign aid. Most conservatives are tired of spending abroad when we have so many issues at home and are tired of printing money we don’t have. No matter who is selected this is exactly what is going to be pressed for their votes. Jordan and Gaetz are very conservative which is going to make it harder to get them elected, typically it’s someone more in the middle that can pull the whole party together, but the aid(laundering) to Ukraine and Israel is what will be put on the table to get those last few votes.

    This is also why McCarthy was ousted. He worked with the dems against the majority of his party to send more aid to Ukraine after he told people he would reel it in when he was named speaker.
    Except there was no aid to Ukraine in the funding bill. The 6bln was dropped.

    The issue is McCarthy only worked with the Democrats because his party couldn’t do shit on their own with majority.

    As I see it, the Democrats work together towards a common goal they all share. The Republicans work for their own personal agendas, and don’t give two shits about anyone else, even their own party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    A one time thing of him working with the Democrats to save his own skin and his own parties reputation..
    He has a history of consistently not working with the Democrats and ignoring them. He also consistently does things just to piss off the Democrats. He has said on record that he will not work with the Democrats or give them any concessions to even save his job, or in the future.

    That’s not reasonable at all, in the eyes of the Democrats.
    The only thing democrats consider reasonable is "Give us everything we want in exchange for nothing"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    Except there was no aid to Ukraine in the funding bill. The 6bln was dropped.

    The issue is McCarthy only worked with the Democrats because his party couldn’t do shit on their own with majority.

    As I see it, the Democrats work together towards a common goal they all share. The Republicans work for their own personal agendas, and don’t give two shits about anyone else, even their own party.
    And your last comment describes exactly what is wrong with the current 2 party system.

    OUR Representatives are supposed to work towards the goals of their CONSTIUENTS... not the Party.

    The fact the majority of Americans will cut off their own foot, rather than be pragmatic and reasonable when it comes to the governance of the country... and only side with their "side" out of spite for the other... is exactly why we're in this shitshow.

    Again - over the past 20 years or so... and especially the last 10... the only Party calling for segregation, censorship, changing US laws and the Constitution is... the Democratic Party.

    We have people all across the US actually supporting Hamas - huge rallies of them disregarding the fact that a terrorist attack occurred... If Israel were the size of the US - Had it occurred in the US, it would equate to approximately 30,000 people dead in one day.

    I mentioned it for years... the "Left" are the 21st century Brown Shirts... Everyone wonders how Germany became what they did... all you have to do is watch what the "Left" is doing...

    Their mental illness has spread to far at this point... the world gets to experience it all over again 80 years later.

    Aren't humans great?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Methais View Post
    The only thing democrats consider reasonable is "Give us everything we want in exchange for nothing"
    McCarthy keeping his job is something, right?

    The big issue with the Republicans, is I don’t think they even know what they want to do? Or they have an idea, but they can never agree on how to exactly accomplish it. Your party is held hostage by your extreme right in the party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaps View Post
    And your last comment describes exactly what is wrong with the current 2 party system.

    OUR Representatives are supposed to work towards the goals of their CONSTIUENTS... not the Party.

    The fact the majority of Americans will cut off their own foot, rather than be pragmatic and reasonable when it comes to the governance of the country... and only side with their "side" out of spite for the other... is exactly why we're in this shitshow.

    Again - over the past 20 years or so... and especially the last 10... the only Party calling for segregation, censorship, changing US laws and the Constitution is... the Democratic Party.

    We have people all across the US actually supporting Hamas - huge rallies of them disregarding the fact that a terrorist attack occurred... If Israel were the size of the US - Had it occurred in the US, it would equate to approximately 30,000 people dead in one day.

    I mentioned it for years... the "Left" are the 21st century Brown Shirts... Everyone wonders how Germany became what they did... all you have to do is watch what the "Left" is doing...

    Their mental illness has spread to far at this point... the world gets to experience it all over again 80 years later.

    Aren't humans great?
    Oh don’t give me that shit with the left this and left that. It’s funny you claim you aren’t a Republican, but we all know you are. Republicans can care less about what the American people want.

    Majority of Americans want abortion, Republicans in Congress want to completely remove it.
    Majority of Americans still support sending aid to Ukraine, republicans in Congress don’t want to.

    Don’t play it off as it’s just the left.

    We have rallies across America, on the left and right, over a lot of stupid shit, because frankly the majority of the U.S. population knows absolutely nothing outside their own backyard. It’s called conformity.

    I’m a democrat, and I 100% support Israel, and hope they continue to destroy the Gaza Strip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    McCarthy keeping his job is something, right?

    The big issue with the Republicans, is I don’t think they even know what they want to do? Or they have an idea, but they can never agree on how to exactly accomplish it. Your party is held hostage by your extreme right in the party.
    I don’t think it’s extreme to advocate for congress to have term limits or to get our massive inflationary post-Covid deficit under control.

    That being said, there is some truth in your statement. Democrats unify when they absolutely need to. Republicans can’t. It’s a fair criticism and an annoyance.

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