Is Trump Eligible to Run Again?

[Parkbandit]

SP is arguing that Trump needs to be left alone to run regardless of his multiple felonies and disqualification under the 14th amendment. Remember, Republicans think that politicians, whether they are or are not in office, can't be held accountable under the law. Unless they're Democrats.

What felonies, specifically?

Remember when you fell for the "ZOMG RUSSIAN COLLUSION!" and "THAT IS NOT HUNTER'S LAPTOP! THAT IS RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION!"?

You're falling for it again.. because you are that fucking retarded.

"Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice.. it's just another day of the week" -Seran

[Parkbandit]

Poster is functionally retarded and despite the FBI under Biden declaring it was not an insurrection and there being no felony convictions and the 14th Amendment specifically not stating the POTUS while the Constitution as written clearly specifying the requirements that Trump does in fact meet, continues to persist in his delusion that somehow he can not run. You have to wonder why, after all of this, they are still so afraid of trump winning?

I can't wait for Eps and the other government plants start going to prison and singing.

The FBI literally said they have no idea how many informants they had on 1/6th in the Capitol... like it was too high of a number to figure out.

[Suppressed Poet]

SP is arguing that Trump needs to be left alone to run regardless of his multiple felonies and disqualification under the 14th amendment. Remember, Republicans think that politicians, whether they are or are not in office, can't be held accountable under the law. Unless they're Democrats.

1) Trump hasn’t been convicted of any felonies and is presumed innocent under the law.
2) Trump was never charged with a crime of insurrection.
3) LOL Senator Mendez
4) Seems to me you don’t really want to “save our democracy” if you are advocating for removing a president candidate from the ballot by some fringe stretch legal theory of applying the 14th Amendment to Trump, but that isn’t surprising.

[Seran]

1) Trump hasn’t been convicted of any felonies and is presumed innocent under the law.
2) Trump was never charged with a crime of insurrection.
3) LOL Senator Mendez
4) Seems to me you don’t really want to “save our democracy” if you are advocating for removing a president candidate from the ballot by some fringe stretch legal theory of applying the 14th Amendment to Trump, but that isn’t surprising.

How is following the Constitution and the Fourteenth Amendment not consistent with following our democratic principles? The legal theory is that Trump provided comfort and succor to the armed insurrection, some of whom have been convicted of sedition, so why wouldn't a former President who abetted a specific seditious action not be disqualified under the plaintext reading of the Constitution? Extra points of you can point out what part of the amendment says someone must be criminally charged or how Mendez's alleged bribery falls under the Fourteenth.

[Suppressed Poet]

How is following the Constitution and the Fourteenth Amendment not consistent with following our democratic principles? The legal theory is that Trump provided comfort and succor to the armed insurrection, some of whom have been convicted of sedition, so why wouldn't a former President who abetted a specific seditious action not be disqualified under the plaintext reading of the Constitution? Extra points of you can point out what part of the amendment says someone must be criminally charged or how Mendez's alleged bribery falls under the Fourteenth.

As I said before, there is a better legal argument to involuntarily remove Biden from office with the 25th Amendment than there is to remove Trump from the ballot with the 14th Amendment. I oppose both. Let voters decide in the next election.

I’ll put it this way…if Trump were to be removed from the ballot with the 14th Amendment (which I’m absolutely certain won’t happen but let’s pretend just for a moment), that would signal to many Americans that all legitimacy in our federal government is gone. We would witness what an armed insurrection really looks like. I don’t want that and neither do you. This is why we have fair and free elections. Let’s settle our differences the democratic way. Give democracy a chance.

[Neveragain]

How is following the Constitution and the Fourteenth Amendment not consistent with following our democratic principles? The legal theory is that Trump provided comfort and succor to the armed insurrection, some of whom have been convicted of sedition, so why wouldn't a former President who abetted a specific seditious action not be disqualified under the plaintext reading of the Constitution? Extra points of you can point out what part of the amendment says someone must be criminally charged or how Mendez's alleged bribery falls under the Fourteenth.

How many felonies has Trump been convicted of?

[Alfster]

As I said before, there is a better legal argument to involuntarily remove Biden from office with the 25th Amendment than there is to remove Trump from the ballot with the 14th Amendment. I oppose both. Let voters decide in the next election.

I’ll put it this way…if Trump were to be removed from the ballot with the 14th Amendment (which I’m absolutely certain won’t happen but let’s pretend just for a moment), that would signal to many Americans that all legitimacy in our federal government is gone. We would witness what an armed insurrection really looks like. I don’t want that and neither do you. This is why we have fair and free elections. Let’s settle our differences the democratic way. Give democracy a chance.

This is hilarious.

In the event the 14th or 25th came into play, then that's literally following the Constitution.

If we follow the Constitution then Americans won't believe in the Constitution so let's not follow it.

[Suppressed Poet]

This is hilarious.

In the event the 14th or 25th came into play, then that's literally following the Constitution.

If we follow the Constitution then Americans won't believe in the Constitution so let's not follow it.

The 14th Amendment was enacted specifically to keep Confederates (one in particular) running for President. The 25th Amendment was passed specifically for events like a President assassination or if they become hospitalized for a major condition that leaves them incapacitated. Neither are applicable to Trump or Biden respectively. If you look into both even at a shallow level, you will find both legal arguments quite ludicrous.

Edit: The thing is this isn’t left to public opinion. Either side may try it, but I’m confident our judicial system would agree with my assessment.

[Seran]

As I said before, there is a better legal argument to involuntarily remove Biden from office with the 25th Amendment than there is to remove Trump from the ballot with the 14th Amendment. I oppose both. Let voters decide in the next election.

I’ll put it this way…if Trump were to be removed from the ballot with the 14th Amendment (which I’m absolutely certain won’t happen but let’s pretend just for a moment), that would signal to many Americans that all legitimacy in our federal government is gone. We would witness what an armed insurrection really looks like. I don’t want that and neither do you. This is why we have fair and free elections. Let’s settle our differences the democratic way. Give democracy a chance.

This is where your kind going off the deep end. Regardless of the Constitution having specific prohibitions of someone who acts in a manner seditious or treasonous, or supported said acts from serving the highest office in our country, you support Trump. Amazing that the far right has gone so far off the wagon to support party over country, to idolize a man despite his working against the very government that has kept the country stable for centuries. There is a reason why the Confederate flags and names have been taken down, the Federal government doesn't support treasonous acts. You apparently do.

[Suppressed Poet]

This is where your kind going off the deep end. Regardless of the Constitution having specific prohibitions of someone who acts in a manner seditious or treasonous, or supported said acts from serving the highest office in our country, you support Trump. Amazing that the far right has gone so far off the wagon to support party over country, to idolize a man despite his working against the very government that has kept the country stable for centuries. There is a reason why the Confederate flags and names have been taken down, the Federal government doesn't support treasonous acts. You apparently do.

What’s the matter Seran? Are you starting to have doubts that Biden can win in a free & fair election against Trump? Now you feel justified in cheating to win by any means necessary?

(Since you like Business Insider so much as a trusted news organization: Trump leads Biden by 10 points in newly-released national poll of the 2024 presidential race, a departure from recent surveys showing a closer contest https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...abc-2023-9?amp )