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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet View Post
    The resurgence of the middle class? Inflation has far outpaced wages. Middle class people buy homes. Tell me, what does that look like right now? Middle class people but cars. Have automobiles and/or the cost of ownership become more or less expensive? I don’t see what you are talking about, nor do most Americans when polled about the economy.

    I benefited from the tax cuts and I am not super rich. They were also weighted to give the most cuts (and deficit) up front and taper off over time. Republicans did better with the economy by not meddling with it and over spending like Democrats, but I’ll concede that not enough legislation was passed during Trump’s first term especially in the first 2 years where they had majority in Congress. Democrats under Biden administration has done “better” at volume of legislation passed and executive actions. I see those as harmful.
    Wages have once again began to outpace inflation month over month and where those gains have been concentrated has been the lower and middle classes. Homeownership in particular has held steady month after month at about 66% under Biden, having grown 1.5% since he came into office. Inflation doesn't erode the value of assets like a home, unless you're looking at it as a short-term investment. For those who own their home 10-30 years, those once in a lifetime interest rates that Trump's administration shepherded in (alongside inflation) by cutting borrowing rates, won't be going away. The inflation is transitory year over year, whereas the long term asset of a home is unrealized unless and until someone refinances or sells their home. Auto sales.. lawl, the 'supply issue' which a lot of dealerships used to mark up their inventory, particularly used inventory, created the biggest challenge for discretionary income for households. Dealers priced themselves out of the market and the increase in borrowing costs has assured new vehicle purchases will remain stagnant, where BEA reports show used vehicle sales and margins have again begun to perk up.

    https://apps.bea.gov/iTable/?reqid=1...ies=underlying

    The New Deal implemented taxes commiserate with wealth in the United States and those have been steadily eroded, while the tax burden of the middle class has increased. Reagan was the biggest culprit there, followed by Trump, and to a lesser degree Bush Sr. Look to the concentration of wealth in the United States in the 1% and 0.5% percentile which has grown /significantly/ whereas their effective tax rate has plummeted. The trickle down theory under Reagan failed, and failed spectacularly to bolster anything but the formation of an egregious concentration of wealth, which Trump only exacerbated.

    Let's use the Tax Foundation data as an example. Tax year 2013 (left) data versus tax year 2020 (right). The share of AGI in these tax groups representing the bottom 90% of wage earners has only decreased in that seven year period.

    Group Share of AGI Share of Taxes Share of AGI Share of Taxes
    Top 1 19.04% 37.80% 22.2% 42.3% 3.16%
    Top 1-5% 15.38% 20.75% 15.90% 20.40% 0.52%
    Top 5-10% 11.45% 11.25% 11.40% 11.00% -0.05%
    Top 25% 22.23% 16.47% 21.2% 14.8% -1.03%
    Top 50% 20.41% 10.95% 19.10% 9.20% -1.31%
    Bot 50% 11.49% 2.78% 10.2% 2.3% -1.47%

    Now let's compare the 2015 tax year data (left) and the tax 2020 tax year data (right) from the Tax Foundation. The shorter range shows how everyone but the top 10% lost economic strength as displayed in the share of adjusted gross income as individual filers per the IRS. So regardless of your claims about weighty for Trump's tax cuts, only those at the income split point making $152,321 for 10% bracket or more saw their share of the nations adjusted gross income grow.

    Group Share of AGI Share of Taxes Share of AGI Share of Taxes
    Top 1 20.65% 39.04% 22.2% 42.3% 1.55%
    Top 1-5% 15.42% 20.54% 15.90% 20.40% 0.48%
    Top 5-10% 11.29% 11.01% 11.40% 11.00% 0.11%
    Top 25% 21.63% 16.03% 21.2% 14.8% -0.43%
    Top 50% 19.73% 10.55% 19.10% 9.20% -0.63%
    Bot 50% 11.28% 2.83% 10.2% 2.3% -1.26%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    It’s like the right doesn’t do the same thing? Heh
    Name me a national policy where the Right has compromised in the last 40 years and gotten anything at the same time in exchange. I'll wait. You can count the occasions likely on one hand whereas the Left has hundreds of victories. Piss off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Methais View Post
    The problem with today's republicans is they still believe things like "taking the high road" will accomplish something.

    Democrats abandoned that thought process a long time ago, and republicans still can't wrap their heads around it, and then wonder why they keep taking Ls.
    This is correct.
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    If I was Seran, I wouldn't want to compare any economic data during Biden's presidency either.
    http://www.usdebtclock.org/
    Click the link above to see how much you owe the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage View Post
    If I was Seran, I wouldn't want to compare any economic data during Biden's presidency either.
    He actually wrote this. I thought it was an Onion post at first...

    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    The policies that Democrats have negotiated as of late have had major positive impacts on economic growth and American industry, all the while supporting the resurgence of the middle class. Republicans know this, weighed the risk of opposing responsible governance and so backed off opposition. Meanwhile what have we heard in terms of major legislation from the Right? Tax cuts that benefited only the wealthiest and contributed to major gains in their deficit, that was a letter epic fail.
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    3 million more popular votes. I'd say the numbers speak for themselves. Gerrymandering won for Trump.

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    Regulating firearms to keep them out of the hands of criminals, the unhinged, etc. meets the first test of the 2nd amendment, 'well-regulated'.

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    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NP_K2...?feature=share

    This had me laughing. 15 seconds - showing how humankind excels! Crazy shit like this is how things get done! ROFL

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    Want to know we're fucked and the world is laughing at us?

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/canada-sh...100632402.html

    "Canada shut its land border to asylum seekers. More refugees came anyway"

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/dhs-launc...174327801.html

    "DHS to launch ‘national campaign’ to get some migrants work permits as New York begs for help"

    Our Government is willing to protect Canada's border... but our own? Nah, forget it.
    Last edited by Shaps; 09-02-2023 at 11:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage View Post
    If I was Seran, I wouldn't want to compare any economic data during Biden's presidency either.
    The latest update for 2023 on the Tax Foundation only goes through 2020 you moron, otherwise it'd have been included.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    The latest update for 2023 on the Tax Foundation only goes through 2020 you moron, otherwise it'd have been included.
    You unironically think Biden is doing a fantastic job on all fronts. You're in no place to call anyone a moron except for your mom for not having an abortion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Methais View Post
    You unironically think Biden is doing a fantastic job on all fronts. You're in no place to call anyone a moron except for your mom for not having an abortion.
    There is always time for a post partum abortion in the 127th trimester or something.
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