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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    The July 2022 KIIS survey found only 1 in 25 of Ukrainians (4%) identified with the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate (UOC-MP), a considerable drop from nearly 1/5 (18%) in June 2021 and 15% in June 2020 recorded in the same KIIS polling in the preceding years.

    I keep posting this for you and you give me a wikipedia link to 2022 numbers. I'm specifically pointing out the 14% drop between 2021 to 2022. 2022 is when Zelensky banned their religion.

    You're the one saying they are primarily in eastern Ukraine which is heavily pro-russian. These sides have been fighting for 0ver 8 years, they're not just going to up and leave their religion because they're told they need to kill the side that has been trying to kill them for 8 years.

    The banning of the religion and the sudden 14% drop is the evidence of religious persecution. The banning of a religion is the persecution.

    Would you call it religious persecution if we banned Islam in the US?

    You’re funny. Do you think what they were doing before the invasion is anything like post invasion?

    Before the invasion did the Russian orthodox leader, promote, support and demand the cleansing and genocide of the Ukrainian people, and HIS OWN FOLLOWERS? News flash, he didn’t. Many of the pro-Russian people left in the eastern part of Ukraine are now against Russia because of what they’ve done.

    For some reason you keep skipping over this point. Their own religious leader wants them dead.

    Not before the invasion, after the invasion

    Once again
    Their own religious leader, wanting his own followers to die and the genocide of the Ukrainian people… their friends, family and country, is a good reason for them to leave the Russian Orthodox Church

    Next, can you please provide a link where Ukraine banned the Russian Orthodox Church? here’s a hint, you won’t find any, because they never did. They banned activities linked to Russia through the church, the religion isn’t banned.

    Maybe you should get your facts straight before you start posting nonsense?

    Your entire argument is based on religious persecution, because Ukraine supposedly banned the Russian Orthodox Church. Well since they never did, how are you going to move the goal post this time?
    Last edited by Solkern; 02-27-2023 at 10:34 AM.
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    The Constitution is not the Declaration of Independence. (I'm not at all surprised that you don't know this)
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    "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." ~ The Constitution

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