Russia Just Invaded Ukraine

[Parkbandit]

Russia invaded Chechnya and Georgia under Bush, Ukrainian Crimea under Obama, asserted it's political control over America under Trump, and invaded Ukraine proper under Biden. Pretty well established those four years were his trying to gain dominance over our country through his puppet GOP president.

3 out of 4 are facts.

1 out of 4 is TDS.

Imagine STILL believing that Trump was a Russian asset.. you would literally have to be one of the bottom 1%ers to believe that.

Oh, it's you Seran.. literally the bottom of the bottom 1%ers..

I'm not shocked.

SPOILER: President Trump was the most peaceful President since Ford, regardless what the "DOOMZDAY CLOCK" said.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Russia invaded Chechnya and Georgia under Bush, Ukrainian Crimea under Obama, asserted it's political control over America under Trump, and invaded Ukraine proper under Biden. Pretty well established those four years were his trying to gain dominance over our country through his puppet GOP president.

ROFL. TDS Troll says what?

[Seran]

If the GOP can believe the nonsense of Biden having anything to do with Russia's aggression and imperialism, the rest of us are pretty secure in the knowledge of Trump being influenced by and colluding with Russia!

[Parkbandit]

If the GOP can believe the nonsense of Biden having anything to do with Russia's aggression and imperialism, the rest of us are pretty secure in the knowledge of Trump being influenced by and colluding with Russia!

I don't think President Biden had anything to do with the invasion of Ukraine. I believe his limp wristed foreign policy and him saying "It's one thing if it's a minor incursion and then we end up having a fight about what to do and not do" gave Putin the green light to do whatever he wanted to do.

But seriously Seran, enough retardation for one day. Save some of this sheer stupidity for a title defense.

[time4fun]

Actually, the Biden administration has been pivotal is keeping Europe united against Russia since the very beginning. And anyone railing against his "limp-wristed" approach to the war obviously has absolutely no idea what Biden has actually been doing. This isn't speculation or political spin. It's just literally what happened.

We've been the single biggest threat to Russia this whole time. Putin assumed Europe would be fractious in its response to the invasion of Ukraine. He hadn't counted on the US jumping in and managing to keep them united for as long as he (mostly) has.

Facts matter.

[Parkbandit]

Actually, the Biden administration has been pivotal is keeping Europe united against Russia since the very beginning. And anyone railing against his "limp-wristed" approach to the war obviously has absolutely no idea what Biden has actually been doing. This isn't speculation or political spin. It's just literally what happened.

We've been the single biggest threat to Russia this whole time. Putin assumed Europe would be fractious in its response to the invasion of Ukraine. He hadn't counted on the US jumping in and managing to keep them united for as long as he (mostly) has.

Facts matter.

The Biden Administration is reactive instead of proactive. You don't tell someone like Putin that it matters how big of an incursion it is if we are going to do anything or not. Putin knew the Biden Administration wouldn't do shit militarily against him because the Obama Administration did nothing proactively to stop him.

Facts matter. Putin invaded Crimea during Obama and Ukraine during Biden because he knew who he was dealing with.

[Seran]

The Biden Administration is reactive instead of proactive. You don't tell someone like Putin that it matters how big of an incursion it is if we are going to do anything or not. Putin knew the Biden Administration wouldn't do shit militarily against him because the Obama Administration did nothing proactively to stop him.

Facts matter. Putin invaded Crimea during Obama and Ukraine during Biden because he knew who he was dealing with.

Just what could have been done proactively to prevent the invasion that wasn't already done? Short of putting US troops and bases in Ukraine, everything else was done. Diplomatic overtures, stationing weapons and troops in bordering NATO countries prior to the invasion, openly sharing intelligence info that it was coming. You seem to think something wasn't done, but are clearly mistaken.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Just what could have been done proactively to prevent the invasion that wasn't already done? Short of putting US troops and bases in Ukraine, everything else was done. Diplomatic overtures, stationing weapons and troops in bordering NATO countries prior to the invasion, openly sharing intelligence info that it was coming. You seem to think something wasn't done, but are clearly mistaken.

I forget that in addition to your PHD in oil refinery and production you also have multiple degrees in diplomatic relations. Are you and t4f hitting it, you need to make Einstein babies.

[Parkbandit]

Just what could have been done proactively to prevent the invasion that wasn't already done? Short of putting US troops and bases in Ukraine, everything else was done. Diplomatic overtures, stationing weapons and troops in bordering NATO countries prior to the invasion, openly sharing intelligence info that it was coming. You seem to think something wasn't done, but are clearly mistaken.

Maybe not say that it depends on how big the incursion is will determine what we will do or not do.

Maybe make a red line... I'm not talking about how the Obama made a red line in Syria.. I'm actually talking about one that we would actually act upon.

[Seran]

Maybe not say that it depends on how big the incursion is will determine what we will do or not do.

Maybe make a red line... I'm not talking about how the Obama made a red line in Syria.. I'm actually talking about one that we would actually act upon.

So you wanted an unequivocal promise to go to war with Russia on behalf of Ukraine, a non-NATO ally, igniting world war three at worst, or causing the Untied States to lose all credibility as a superpower at best when Russia still invaded.