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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    I didn't say sedition requires violence, but it is and has been treated as a lesser type of insurrection through 200 years of US Caselaw. Insurrection is a very, very rare charge and in the words of many US Judges, requires "rather significant" violence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    The Constitution is not the Declaration of Independence. (I'm not at all surprised that you don't know this)
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    "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." ~ The Constitution

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    LOL, this nothing burger has been suspended indefinitely. Reality TV that no one gives a shit about doesn't get any ratings and no one of any substance cares about them regurgitating nothing new.

    Remember, all the so called "new evidence" brought to you by the nothing new crew run by Pelosi and Shifty Schiff with his "I have evidence (despite the fact I had to tell the FBI that I didn't have shit and it's all made up so I don't go to prison like Marth Stewart.)"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    I didn't say sedition requires violence, but it is and has been treated as a lesser type of insurrection through 200 years of US Caselaw. Insurrection is a very, very rare charge and in the words of many US Judges, requires "rather significant" violence.
    You're quibbling over an unstated and imagined belief that 'significant' is somehow in the federal criminal code. Violence against the authority of the United States in exercising a sworn federal duty such as certifying a federal election is textbook Insurrection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    You're quibbling over an unstated and imagined belief that 'significant' is somehow in the federal criminal code. Violence against the authority of the United States in exercising a sworn federal duty such as certifying a federal election is textbook Insurrection.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-night...on-11655664242

    "A ‘Night of Rage’ on Abortion - The shadowy group Jane’s Revenge issues a call to ‘riot’ against the Supreme Court if it overturns Roe v. Wade."

    The above is insurrection. As was most of 2020 riots destroying cities and federal buildings.


    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...tail&FORM=VIRE

    Regardless of what the media tells you, this is what Trump actually said. Jan 6th was a riot that got out of control, not a "planned insurrection"... which has since been lied about continuously through edited footage. Rightfully the rioters were arrested and charged. Wrongfully the Democrat Politicians have ignored the calls of violence and actual destruction caused by their own Brownshirts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaps View Post
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-night...on-11655664242

    "A ‘Night of Rage’ on Abortion - The shadowy group Jane’s Revenge issues a call to ‘riot’ against the Supreme Court if it overturns Roe v. Wade."

    The above is insurrection. As was most of 2020 riots destroying cities and federal buildings.


    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...tail&FORM=VIRE

    Regardless of what the media tells you, this is what Trump actually said. Jan 6th was a riot that got out of control, not a "planned insurrection"... which has since been lied about continuously through edited footage. Rightfully the rioters were arrested and charged. Wrongfully the Democrat Politicians have ignored the calls of violence and actual destruction caused by their own Brownshirts.

    You have this idea that in order for it to be an insurrection it has to be planned? It doesn’t, not at all. You also have this idea that what Trump labels it, really fucking matters? It doesn't, not at all. Based on the LAW, January 6th was an insurrection.

    Go look at the law, it’s written quite clearly. Once again, it does NOT matter what Trump labels it. For you to think it even matters, and for you to bring it up as some sort of defense is laughable.


    Trump: “It was just a riot that got out of hand, not a planned insurrection!”
    Shaps: “It must be the truth! Trumps words are above the law!”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    The Constitution is not the Declaration of Independence. (I'm not at all surprised that you don't know this)
    An hour later:
    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." ~ The Constitution

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    In today's January 6th Insurrection investigation hearing, we learned that former President Trump and his advisors discussed in advance of January 6th about the Oathkeepers role in the coup.

    We learned Trump tried to attack a secret service agent when he was told that for security reasons, he couldn't match to the Capital as it was impossible to protect him there.

    We learned Mark Meadows and Rudy Giuliani January 6th were prepping the staff in advance for the plan they matched in advance to overturn the election.

    We also learned that upon being told right wing extremists were armed, carrying ar-15s, batons, stun guns, military grade armor and knifes the President demanded the security screening, mag detectors and other devices which were causing weapons to be taken from his supporters, to be removed because quote, "His people weren't there to harm HIM"

    You all still support this guy's coup, really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    In today's January 6th Insurrection investigation hearing, we learned that former President Trump and his advisors discussed in advance of January 6th about the Oathkeepers role in the coup.

    We learned Trump tried to attack a secret service agent when he was told that for security reasons, he couldn't match to the Capital as it was impossible to protect him there.

    We learned Mark Meadows and Rudy Giuliani January 6th were prepping the staff in advance for the plan they matched in advance to overturn the election.

    We also learned that upon being told right wing extremists were armed, carrying ar-15s, batons, stun guns, military grade armor and knifes the President demanded the security screening, mag detectors and other devices which were causing weapons to be taken from his supporters, to be removed because quote, "His people weren't there to harm HIM"

    You all still support this guy's coup, really?


    The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. ~ Marcus Aurelius
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    “The urge to shout filthy words at the top of his voice was as strong as ever.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    In today's January 6th Insurrection investigation hearing, we learned that former President Trump and his advisors discussed in advance of January 6th about the Oathkeepers role in the coup.

    We learned Trump tried to attack a secret service agent when he was told that for security reasons, he couldn't match to the Capital as it was impossible to protect him there.

    We learned Mark Meadows and Rudy Giuliani January 6th were prepping the staff in advance for the plan they matched in advance to overturn the election.

    We also learned that upon being told right wing extremists were armed, carrying ar-15s, batons, stun guns, military grade armor and knifes the President demanded the security screening, mag detectors and other devices which were causing weapons to be taken from his supporters, to be removed because quote, "His people weren't there to harm HIM"

    You all still support this guy's coup, really?
    Anyone who hasn't yet watched this hearing in particular needs to stop what they're doing now and watch it.

    As Seran is pointing out here, Trump's entire goal that day was to lead an armed insurrection against Congress to stop the certification of the election.

    He knew for a fact it was a heavily armed crowd, he wanted the Secret Service to stop taking weapons away, and he was furious when he wasn't allowed to go with them to the Capitol.

    If there's a shred of patriotism left in you, you need to watch this hearing. This is the future of your country at stake. This is how close we came to losing our democracy, and those same people are trying to get back into power so they can do this again- with all of those lessons learned from last time.

    The President of the United States intentionally gathered and sent an armed insurrection to hurt and kill his own VP and members of Congress to force them to stop certifying the election because all of his other, horrifyingly illegal; immoral; and unpatriotic efforts had failed.

    You need to stop and ask yourself if this is really what you want our elections to become. And if you think for a second Trump was doing all of this to "give you your country back"- you're wrong. He tried to take your country and democracy from you for himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by time4fun View Post
    Anyone who hasn't yet watched this hearing in particular needs to stop what they're doing now and watch it.


    The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. ~ Marcus Aurelius
    “It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words.”
    ― George Orwell, 1984

    “The urge to shout filthy words at the top of his voice was as strong as ever.”
    ― George Orwell, 1984

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    Sounds like denial. Need some copium?

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