Terrorists break into US Capitol Building

[Seran]

Tell me again, Seran, what are my views on abortion?

That's a good question Gelston, what are your views on abortion?

[Neveragain]

It's funny that Republicans think that everybody should have guns and when they kill somebody they argue that shouldn't restrict the freedoms of others. And yet they're so eager to restrict the right to end a pregnancy for abortion for everyone because their Flying Spaghetti Monster supposedly doesn't like that.

Flying spaghetti monster #57265: "It's ok to take an innocent human life under certain circumstances."

Flying spaghetti monster #38971: "It's never ok to take an innocent human life."

[Methais]

Hey grandpa, that's not their legal definition under the federal statute. Please go cry into your white hood.

Last time I checked, the media doesn't set laws. If you think that, you're fuckin further along in dementia than I thought.

It's always funny when Seran confuses different posters, especially considering the overall small number of active posters we have here, which is an even smaller number in the political threads. But it's still way too much for Seran to wrap his NPC brain around.

That's a good question Gelston, what are your views on abortion?

What is abstinence and how are republicans trying to block it?

[Gelston]

That's a good question Gelston, what are your views on abortion?

I'm asking you what YOU Think my views are, because you are the one name calling based on what you perceive them to be.

[Solkern]

Police cars were firebombed, neighborhoods burnt down and people murdered in the street (I mean besides the woman the police shot) happened on January 6th? What year was that?

Storming the Capitol, destroying and breaking shit, busting down doors forcing yourself into our government building and offices is considered violence right? I’m not comparing the, two the definition doesn’t provide a scale we measure how much violence is required… it just said violence. Both had violent acts against the government.

Hence, it’s an insurrection based on the definition he provided.

[Gelston]

Storming the Capitol, destroying and breaking shit, busting down doors forcing yourself into our government building and offices is considered violence right? I’m not comparing the, two the definition doesn’t provide a scale we measure how much violence is required… it just said violence. Both had violent acts against the government.

Hence, it’s an insurrection based on the definition he provided.

Insurrection requires “significant” violence, otherwise it is sedition.

[Methais]

Insurrection requires “significant” violence, otherwise it is sedition.

It probably also requires the cops to not hold the door open for you as you enter.

[Solkern]

Insurrection requires “significant” violence, otherwise it is sedition.

Actually, that’s not true.

https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/...he-difference/

Insurrection

While sedition is organized incitement to rebellion or civil disorder against the state’s authority, insurrection involves actual acts of violence against the state or its officers.

Only the attorney general can bring charges of insurrection, which is defined by Title 18, section 2383 of the U.S.C.:

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Sedition doesn’t require violence, insurrection does.

As sedition by law:
But when the crime is political, it may qualify as sedition. According to Title 18, second 2384 of the Code of Laws of the United States, sedition can meet any of three conditions.

If two or more people in any place subject to U.S. jurisdiction:

Conspire to overthrow, put down, or destroy by force or wage war against the government
Forcefully oppose government authority, preventing, hindering or delaying the execution of any law of the U.S.
Seize, take, or possess any U.S. property contrary to its laws

[Parkbandit]

It's funny that Republicans think that everybody should have guns and when they kill somebody they argue that shouldn't restrict the freedoms of others. And yet they're so eager to restrict the right to end a pregnancy for abortion for everyone because their Flying Spaghetti Monster supposedly doesn't like that.

Do you have a quote of a Republican saying that "everybody should have guns"... because I don't ever remember anyone on any side of the aisle saying that.

Stop being stupid just to be the dumbest person in the thread. That is always accomplished by you every thread you post in.

Relax.

[Gelston]

Actually, that’s not true.

https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/...he-difference/

Insurrection

While sedition is organized incitement to rebellion or civil disorder against the state’s authority, insurrection involves actual acts of violence against the state or its officers.

Only the attorney general can bring charges of insurrection, which is defined by Title 18, section 2383 of the U.S.C.:

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Sedition doesn’t require violence, insurrection does.

As sedition by law:
But when the crime is political, it may qualify as sedition. According to Title 18, second 2384 of the Code of Laws of the United States, sedition can meet any of three conditions.

If two or more people in any place subject to U.S. jurisdiction:

Conspire to overthrow, put down, or destroy by force or wage war against the government
Forcefully oppose government authority, preventing, hindering or delaying the execution of any law of the U.S.
Seize, take, or possess any U.S. property contrary to its laws

I didn't say sedition requires violence, but it is and has been treated as a lesser type of insurrection through 200 years of US Caselaw. Insurrection is a very, very rare charge and in the words of many US Judges, requires "rather significant" violence.