Terrorists break into US Capitol Building

[Seran]

I'm happily awaiting the moment Kevin McCarthy starts begging "President Biden to pull a Gerald Ford and pardon our former commander and thief a presidential pardon.

[Methais]

You realize the lengths you go to in order to avoid having to actually address what Trump and the GOP did?

All of you do it actually- it's kind of astounding. You talk in circles and change the subject because none of you wants to be in the position of having to actually defend what he did.

Our Capitol was under attack by at least two violent white nationalist extremist groups who were there to stop the certification of the election and who were searching for the Vice President of the United States of America and Congress chanting things like "Hang Mike Pence". And Trump refused to tell them to stop. He made absolutely no move to defend our Capitol, Congress, or his own VP. And when he was finally forced to make a statement hours later, he told the armed militia groups who were hunting down the VP and members of Congress and killing cops in the process that they were great people and that he loved them.

Oh, and did I mention they were only in DC because he told them to come? And that members of his campaign were in talks with these violent white nationalist extremist groups? AND that Trump pointed them to the Capitol building at exactly the time when they were certifying the election results and told them this was their last chance to take back their country and to fight like hell. And he knew for a fact that violent white nationalist extremist militia groups were in the crowd.

And you all will do *anything* to avoid having to acknowledge that and actually say "That seems like exactly what a sitting US President should be doing".

Did you actually watch the hearings? I highly recommend you watch today's at least.

As for your "not even a fiery" "mostly peaceful protest" (and yes I caught the snark there): the crowd was full of white nationalist extremist militia groups (who had been in contact with the Trump White House days before the event, according to the FBI) who were carrying a noose and chanting "Hang Mike Pence" while searching the building for him, Nancy Pelosi, and the rest of Congress. And that's after killing several police officers and permanently disabling several more. And they were doing it for one sole purpose: to stop a free and fair election from being certified. Oh and they left bombs in front of the DNC. So please stop pretending like it was no big deal. It was a huge deal and unprecedented in American history.


But more to the point, you keep saying there's no evidence, and I'm absolutely flummoxed here. Can you do me a favor and please describe the events leading up to January 6th and the events that occurred during and Trump's role in it? I'm genuinely curious here as to what your understanding of the situation is.

I'm happily awaiting the moment Kevin McCarthy starts begging "President Biden to pull a Gerald Ford and pardon our former commander and thief a presidential pardon.

[Suppressed Poet]

Did you actually watch the hearings? I highly recommend you watch today's at least.

As for your "not even a fiery" "mostly peaceful protest" (and yes I caught the snark there): the crowd was full of white nationalist extremist militia groups (who had been in contact with the Trump White House days before the event, according to the FBI) who were carrying a noose and chanting "Hang Mike Pence" while searching the building for him, Nancy Pelosi, and the rest of Congress. And that's after killing several police officers and permanently disabling several more. And they were doing it for one sole purpose: to stop a free and fair election from being certified. Oh and they left bombs in front of the DNC. So please stop pretending like it was no big deal. It was a huge deal and unprecedented in American history.


But more to the point, you keep saying there's no evidence, and I'm absolutely flummoxed here. Can you do me a favor and please describe the events leading up to January 6th and the events that occurred during and Trump's role in it? I'm genuinely curious here as to what your understanding of the situation is.

I was persuaded to watch the never before released to the public video footage by my wife smack dab between us watching Stranger Things S4 E3 and us getting it on.

I’m not a white supremacist, and if we are being real that’s such a ridiculously small minority of the population in America it’s not even worth mentioning. The “Hang Mike Pence” people is protected free speech unless a prosecutor could prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they intended to and were capable of actually acting upon that violence. It’s disdainful and ugly, but likely not criminal. That behavior is also not unique to the right. It’s simple..,those that actually committed a crime than yeah prosecute them. Otherwise…stop bitching about Trump already. You won the election and our REPUBLIC did just fine. On life goes and nobody cares anymore.

We both know Trump would have already been indicted long ago if there was any real evidence of him actually of him committing a crime. He didn’t tell the crowd “you need to storm into the Capitol building and kill members of Congress.” Seems to me like it was some low level campaign staff worker talked to some Proud Boys / Oathkeepers and loosely organized to cause a riot. That doesn’t mean Trump is guilty of planning it, or else the Hillary would also be indicted more times than either of us could count. You really think the Republican Party, the party of guns and toxic masculinity, would plan an actual insurrection so poorly?

What you and so many don’t understand about Trump is why would anyone vote for him. Right? It’s beyond you to think of a reason except maybe that a Trump voter is racist / white supremacist. No that’s not it. His appeal was it was a giant middle finger to the noble family establishment same old career politicians like the Biden, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Cheney, etc. Many people of all races, ethnicities, gender, whatever rightfully feel disenfranchised with the same old game. Trump was disorder to the establishment. Trump is a self righteous asshole prick no doubt, but let’s not pretend that all politicians aren’t cunts. For all of his mean tweets & bad behavior that you so hate, his actual track record in the executive office was pretty damn decent. That craving for something different than what Biden (or insert usual suspect who’s only profession in life has been a swamp politician) is offering still very much exists today, but you can’t understand it.

[Seran]

Did you actually watch the hearings? I highly recommend you watch today's at least.

As for your "not even a fiery" "mostly peaceful protest" (and yes I caught the snark there): the crowd was full of white nationalist extremist militia groups (who had been in contact with the Trump White House days before the event, according to the FBI) who were carrying a noose and chanting "Hang Mike Pence" while searching the building for him, Nancy Pelosi, and the rest of Congress. And that's after killing several police officers and permanently disabling several more. And they were doing it for one sole purpose: to stop a free and fair election from being certified. Oh and they left bombs in front of the DNC. So please stop pretending like it was no big deal. It was a huge deal and unprecedented in American history.


But more to the point, you keep saying there's no evidence, and I'm absolutely flummoxed here. Can you do me a favor and please describe the events leading up to January 6th and the events that occurred during and Trump's role in it? I'm genuinely curious here as to what your understanding of the situation is.

The bombshell of just how much money Trump has paid himself, his associates and family through his legal defense fund is absolutely stunning.

[Shaps]

Did you actually watch the hearings? I highly recommend you watch today's at least.

As for your "not even a fiery" "mostly peaceful protest" (and yes I caught the snark there): the crowd was full of white nationalist extremist militia groups (who had been in contact with the Trump White House days before the event, according to the FBI) who were carrying a noose and chanting "Hang Mike Pence" while searching the building for him, Nancy Pelosi, and the rest of Congress. And that's after killing several police officers and permanently disabling several more. And they were doing it for one sole purpose: to stop a free and fair election from being certified. Oh and they left bombs in front of the DNC. So please stop pretending like it was no big deal. It was a huge deal and unprecedented in American history.


But more to the point, you keep saying there's no evidence, and I'm absolutely flummoxed here. Can you do me a favor and please describe the events leading up to January 6th and the events that occurred during and Trump's role in it? I'm genuinely curious here as to what your understanding of the situation is.

This right here... "And that's after killing several police officers and permanently disabling several more." completely invalidates anything you can or could say. - 1 officer died at the riot, from a stroke.

This just doubles down on it... "Oh and they left bombs in front of the DNC." - Someone left bombs in front of BOTH the RNC and DNC.

I know facts are hard for you... but sooner or later, or possibly on your deathbed, you'll realize you were a fucking cuck and hate yourself for it.

You are a fucking moron, just accept it at this point.

The fact the rest of us sane people have to live with fucking ignorant, partisan, jackoffs like you is why we are where we are.

If I recall (I could be mixing you up, so if I am, apologies - but I'm pretty sure) years back you said you were from the Philippines? Came to America for a better life yada, yada, etc., etc.? Do you want to immigrate again, because this country got so fucked up? Seems like it.


P.S. You ask people for "their understanding of the situation"? That would be facts. Not your fucked up shit.

[Shaps]

https://www.dailynews.com/2021/12/12...stions-raised/

"As Clinton Foundation donations plunge, questions raised"

"“Ethics Experts Alarmed by 93% Decrease in Clinton Foundation Donations Since $250 Million Peak in 2009.”


Because they do such charitable works... I'm sure all their donors wanted to support the helpless and downtrodden.

It's... absolutely stunning.

[~Rocktar~]

Wait, we have seen this movie.

[Seran]

Lol, not being an active 503c is a sure sign of corruption. My God ��. If you look at all those for profit corporations who simply go out of business, it's clear each and very one of them is committing fraud by no longer being active.

[Parkbandit]

Did you actually watch the hearings? I highly recommend you watch today's at least.

No one did. The "hearing" was beaten by a rerun of "Young Sheldon" for crying out loud.

The Democrats overplayed their already weak hand and the only ones that are tuning in are idiots like you who would never not vote Democrat to begin with.

[Solkern]

You posted "I’m doing exactly the same under Biden as I was under Trump." This LITERALLY means you are financially unaffected by it.

Please go on and on and on about how it's everyone else's fault and not yours that you can't communicate effectively.

Fucking retard.

God you are dumb, nothing in my life has changed since inflation went up, I’m spending the same, doing the same things, I’m financially unaffected by the inflation spike. Once again, nothing in my life has changed due to the inflation. Is it really that hard for you to understand?

I guess that’s just too difficult for you to understand, much like jet leg.

I guess because YOU are being hurt by it, everyone else must be.