Things that made you Facepalm today (Political Version)

[Gelston]

None of the freedoms you claim actually live within the Constitution. Surely you don't think that teen was acting on behalf of a "well-regulated militia" when he all Order 66 on that classroom full of children? Each state has a National Guard, whose training and armament were exactly what was enshrined in our Constitution to the letter.

You don't have a right to own firearms, you don't have a right to sell firearms to mentally disturbed people, you don't have a right to use firearms to murder innocents. Take a deep breath and realize that reality.

Fortunately, your opinion on the Constitution means nothing. Now, what does abstinence mean and how are Republicans trying to block it?

[Parkbandit]

What you don't understand SERAN is that it doesn't matter if they are outlawed. CRIMINALS and Mentally Ill people will get them if they want them. It's a lack of humanity problem.

You are trying to be reasonable with someone who is clearly mentally ill.

He doesn't understand.

[Shaps]

Let's go over all of the other recent mass shootings that used AR-15 style rifles, in addition to the murder spree against elementary school students this week.

- The Las Vegas slaughter of 58 people last October.

- The Sutherland Springs, Texas, church shooting that claimed 26 lives in November.

- The Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando, Fla., that left 49 dead in 2016.

- The San Bernardino, Calif., shooting that killed 14 people in 2015.

- The shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut that took 27 lives in 2012.

This just in the last decade. There's no reason for Americans to own semiautomatic rifles and there's sure as shit no reason bump stocks and large capacity clips should be so easy to get a hold of.

NRA fanatics, Right wingers and my personal favorite, survivalists, all feel owning armaments with absolutely purpose for ownership beyond bragging is a right of passage. Only they're also ending up in the hands of gang bangers, mentally ill people, Republicans, and other criminals and as we see are used more often for murder than home defense or some of you may be hunting with them, but really you're an idiot if you are. As our favorite President would say, "C'mon man!"

https://graphics.suntimes.com/homicides/

Chicago homicides...

Mass shootings are not the culprit for the gun deaths you are so vainly trying to sensationalize with specific events. The fact you never address any event, other than the ones that suit your political agenda is very telling.

Again.. less than 20,000 homicides by firearm a year... 350m+ people. You do not take away 350m+ peoples rights, because 20,000 insane people use a gun to harm others.

Every loss of life is sad, but loss of day to day personal governance is as well.

[Neveragain]

Fifty billion dollars to Ukraine to defend itself from a foreign invader is a drop in the bucket to what it'd take to revolutionize our schools into fortified bunkers, register all firearms, track each and every bullet sale from shelf to corpse and to institute a national background and red flag check system.

All because the Red states insist our nation is more secure with there being more deadly weapons than population.

Ah yes, we can spend 50 billion to defend against killers 6 thousand miles away but we can't spend anything on defending against killers a couple blocks down the street.

You're making an excellent argument for personal firearms possession.

You're making it even more clear that the murdered children really don't mean a fucking thing to you. They're not even worth our tax dollars.

[beldannon5]

You are trying to be reasonable with someone who is clearly mentally ill.

He doesn't understand.

point taken

[Neveragain]

Apparently the school was in lockdown, but their doors were just weak af and he was able to breech one classroom. Border Patrol officer stopped him as he was trying to get into a second classroom. It would have been a lot worse.

Republicans: "We can't spend money on our schools."

Democrats: "Defund the police"

Republicans and Democrats:

[Parkbandit]

Republicans: "We can't spend money on our schools."

Democrats: "Defund the police"

Republicans and Democrats:

And socialists are just "I don't want to work, I need the government to take care of me!!"

[Seran]

The US Constitution and 200+ years of case law disagrees with you.

About twenty years, yes, under a conservative court.

[Seran]

What you don't understand SERAN is that it doesn't matter if they are outlawed. CRIMINALS and Mentally Ill people will get them if they want them. It's a lack of humanity problem.

Criminals can't buy firearms legally. Mentally ill shouldn't be able to, but can in a lot of Red states. By reducing the number of legally owned firearms capable of mass murder, then you reduce the gray market or straight black market resale of once legally owned firearms by first party owners or who wind up in the hands of criminals by theft. Duh.

[Neveragain]

And socialists are just "I don't want to work, I need the government to take care of me!!"

Schools are literally falling apart.

Parkbandit "Fucking socialists!"