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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage View Post
    Good to hear you all made it out. Putin is turning into a modern day war monger and I suspect is going to destroy his own economy at the very least.
    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    Congrats on making it past the new iron curtain, hope you and your family keep safe and healthy.

    Thank you both! Finally landed in New York! Was an overall good trip!
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    The Constitution is not the Declaration of Independence. (I'm not at all surprised that you don't know this)
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    I wanted to share some of the real Russian propaganda that’s being pushed out. I’ve translated it to English for you.




    Since December 2021, Russia has
    been receiving intelligence data on NATO's plans to
    deploy 4 military brigades (2 land, 1 marine, 1 air).
    What to do with the air brigade with the possibility of
    carrying nuclear warheads. NATO wanted to agree on
    this entry of troops in summer 2022 at the UN Security
    Council meeting. Further plans were to provoke a
    conflict by the end of 2022 and launch nuclear military
    operations against Russia, thus unleashing a full-scale
    World War III. The key role in this was played by the
    controlled America and the nationalists of Ukraine. In
    order to prevent the Third World War and an attack on
    Russia, the Russian government has decided to take
    control of this situation and disrupt the plans of the
    West. In response, Western countries began to exert
    information pressure on Russia using social networks
    and media, broadcasting the idea that Russia is the
    "aggressor"
    . According to the official spokesman of the
    Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova, Russia is
    now facing "information terrorism." Russian President
    Vladimir Putin was ahead of Ukraine and NATO's plans
    for nuclear attack and population annihilation and
    actually saved hundreds of thousands of lives of the
    people of Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics
    (LDNR).


    I’m sure all of us can agree how retarded this is, but this is what the Russian government is pushing out to its people. All that propaganda that you heard from western media, it’s nothing compared to what’s being pushed out in Russia. To try and compare what Ukraine is doing to Russia, it’s just laughable. Ukraine’s propaganda, is more about rallying its people and giving them hope, Russia’s is about straight up deceits and lies.
    Last edited by Solkern; 03-08-2022 at 08:45 AM.
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    The Constitution is not the Declaration of Independence. (I'm not at all surprised that you don't know this)
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    "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." ~ The Constitution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    I wanted to share some of the real Russian propaganda that’s being pushed out. I’ve translated it to English for you.

    Do you think most Russians believe it?

    It may be impossible for the Russian government to prevent savvy young people from getting the truth, but what about most Russians? I heard that most Russians get their news from official state media.
    In the world I see, you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClydeR View Post
    Do you think most Russians believe it?

    It may be impossible for the Russian government to prevent savvy young people from getting the truth, but what about most Russians? I heard that most Russians get their news from official state media.
    Well there are two Russias, one is Moscow and Saint Petersburg, the other is the rest of Russia.
    The majority(if not all) of people in Moscow and Saint Petersburg, know it’s utter bullshit, but the rest of Russia, the majority of them believe it.
    Last edited by Solkern; 03-08-2022 at 10:04 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    The Constitution is not the Declaration of Independence. (I'm not at all surprised that you don't know this)
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    "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." ~ The Constitution

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    WASHINGTON — President Biden is expected on Tuesday morning to ban the importation of Russian oil into the United States, a senior administration official said, making the move after pressure from lawmakers in both parties to punish Russia for its invasion of Ukraine.

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    This feels like a mistake by Biden. I think he caved to domestic political pressure. Possibly, he believes that other countries will follow our example, but the Germans seemed emphatic that they would not. A unilateral move by the U.S. which imports approximately 1% of Russia's oil exports and for which those imports constitute 0.4% of U.S. oil use, will harm the rest of the world more than Russia.
    In the world I see, you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty carpool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

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    I have this pessimistic feeling that Biden is telling the public we aren’t going to war with Russia similar to how LBJ said we won’t put American troops in Vietnam. After all sanctions and diplomatic measures are exhausted, then what? I do hope I’m wrong.

    "They call upon the U.S. to supply American boys to do the job that Asian boys should do." -LBJ summer of ‘64

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    I work in the payments industry (merchant services). Beginning tomorrow at 4:01 PM EST all Russian issued Visa & MasterCard transactions will not authorize globally. Amex is doing the same but not sure their time table. Russian banks are scrambling to get on China Union Pay but it takes time. The card brands are doing this at the BIN level and thus no way of getting around it.

    That’s going to make life very difficult for everyday Russian people…
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet View Post
    I work in the payments industry (merchant services). Beginning tomorrow at 4:01 PM EST all Russian issued Visa & MasterCard transactions will not authorize globally. Amex is doing the same but not sure their time table. Russian banks are scrambling to get on China Union Pay but it takes time. The card brands are doing this at the BIN level and thus no way of getting around it.

    That’s going to make life very difficult for everyday Russian people…
    The cards will still work within Russia, The big issue is the Russians that are abroad, and the foreigners still in Russia.

    From my time in Russia, The biggest difference between Russians and the west is, they are just content with just whatever they have, if shit gets bad, they will literally just say, well we got food, we got water, we have a house, we’re fine.
    Last edited by Solkern; 03-08-2022 at 11:24 AM.
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    The Constitution is not the Declaration of Independence. (I'm not at all surprised that you don't know this)
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    "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." ~ The Constitution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    The cards will still work within Russia, The big issue is the Russians that are abroad, and the foreigners still in Russia.

    From my time in Russia, The biggest difference between Russians and the west is, they are just content with just whatever they have, if shit gets bad, they will literally just say, well we got food, we got water, we have a house, we’re fine.
    No they will not work in Russia. I’m telling you, I’ve been on calls with Visa and they are not going to authorize anywhere beginning March 10, 12:01AM Moscow (March 9th 4:01 PM EST). Effective Friday 2PM Moscow time, Visa will be blocking all settlements and chargebacks of Russian issued cards will be blocked.

    Shits about to get real in Russia.

    We’re scrambling to speak with top clients today to give them the talking points. If they authorize Russian cards today they are in jeopardy of not getting paid as the settlement switch off happens Friday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet View Post
    No they will not work in Russia. I’m telling you, I’ve been on calls with Visa and they are not going to authorize anywhere beginning March 10, 12:01AM Moscow (March 9th 4:01 PM EST). Effective Friday 2PM Moscow time, Visa will be blocking all settlements and chargebacks of Russian issued cards will be blocked.

    Shits about to get real in Russia.
    Yes they will still work, any Russian visa or MasterCard will just be processed under the Russian payment system. I work for HSBC Russia. Russian banks trying to partner with union pay is so they can make purchases abroad.
    Last edited by Solkern; 03-08-2022 at 11:44 AM.
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    The Constitution is not the Declaration of Independence. (I'm not at all surprised that you don't know this)
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    "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." ~ The Constitution

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