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The fact you think Biden is a centrist simply highlights your near complete loss of touch with reality.

It's completely meaningless for you to say that. I'd say show me, don't tell me but I'm so fucking tired of hearing about Biden.

I'll make it really simple. I'll leave the Overton window out of things because I'm afraid of what it might do to you.

Biden beat several more progressive candidates in the Democratic primary. That makes him, by definition, a centrist within his party. He is a centrist. It's not a crazy-person-thing to call him that, and you implying that is disingenuous.

I think it's because you don't actually want to talk to someone that has an opposing viewpoint.

[Neveragain]

mRNA vaccines have been in development since the 60's. Should we call it the Kennedy Vaccine instead? Trump did absolutely nothing but posture and fuck up the vaccine delivery.

Remember when he refused to order hundreds of millions of Pfizer doses in the summer of 2020? Remember when Operation Warp Speed fell flat on its face in terms of distribution? Remember when he completely bungled the first few months of the pandemic so utterly shittily that millions of Americans needlessly died? Don't bother responding to that last one, it's not worth it.

This pandemic could've been a complete LAYUP for Trump. If he'd pulled his head out of his own ass for two seconds and taken it seriously rather than dismissing then grifting on it like he did, we would be looking at Trump Term Two right now.

Sick of hearing about Biden but still wants to talk about Trump.

Did Trump steal your meds? Because, damn, you're a mental reject.

[~Rocktar~]

It's completely meaningless for you to say that. I'd say show me, don't tell me but I'm so fucking tired of hearing about Biden.

I'll make it really simple. I'll leave the Overton window out of things because I'm afraid of what it might do to you.

Biden beat several more progressive candidates in the Democratic primary. That makes him, by definition, a centrist within his party. He is a centrist. It's not a crazy-person-thing to call him that, and you implying that is disingenuous.

I think it's because you don't actually want to talk to someone that has an opposing viewpoint.

So I am going to let you have it like I did Backrash or PK and Time4retardation.

Let me help clarify some things. Biden beat out some even more ridiculously far Left candidates than he. that's true. He also beat out a much greater quantity of moderate candidates than he did of the deeper Leftist. So, in his own party, he is much farther left than center so that's your first fallacy. Now, given that the entire party is deeply Leftist despite your and others protestations to the contrary, even the moderates are very Leftist on the over all scale, that makes Biden a deeply Leftist guy. Add in his amazingly Leftist, Totalitarian and Socialist policies and you end up with a deeply Leftist POTUS not a centrist like you want to present him to be. On the over all scale, he is a deeply Leftist politician. On your limited scale, he is still very Leftist. That's your second fallacy. It is very disingenuous of you to try and frame the deeply leftist guy and his policies as centrist in any way just because it suits you and your argument to the majority re. the Overton window is your third fallacy. Biden's polices are not and were not popular. The lies, deceitful fabrications and flowery prose covering his policies and pushed by the mass media are popular. If you believe they are, then it is just further confirmation of your disconnection from reality.

No one gives two fucks about if you are tired of hearing about Biden. You and a lot of other people voted for him, and make no mistake, if you didn't vote for Trump then you voted for Biden. A lot of shady shit happened to get him elected and now the country as a whole is being damaged by his policies and you and others are making excuses. You are responsible. It's your fault. I have no issue with talking with people that have opposing viewpoints. I DO have an issue talking with children that make excuses for their bad behavior, support plainly evil ideologies, think it's ok to foment racism, classism and now try and create a new point of division with a lie and false narrative to create a new class of "Untermensch" because others won't go along with a medical procedure all in the hopes of allaying their deeply selfish and grossly over inflated fear of death. I DO have an issue talking with people who can't support their position, when called out on their lies, deceit and false data resort to calling me racist, sexist, homophobic and bigoted or those that support those that do. I DO have an issue talking with people that have situational ethics and who's morals shift with the changing of the political wind. Moral and ethical dishonesty are abhorrent and you have demonstrated a lot of it with double standards, excuses and evasion tactics. I DO have a problem talking with people who are condescending, arrogant, elitist and grating, such as yourself, in their attempts to appear superior all the while presenting the flimsiest arguments, resorting to distractions, name calling and so on in an effort to have some kind of high ground.

So pardon me if you find my positions simple, brutish and common and I am inflexible and resolute. I did not reach my positions quickly, some have changed over the years, however some blow hard trying to flex a vocabulary on a text forum who has proven mediocre at best in reason and rational debate has little chance of influencing them.

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So I am going to let you have it like I did Backrash or PK and Time4retardation.

Shaking in my boots. Let's have it!

Let me help clarify some things. Biden beat out some even more ridiculously far Left candidates than he. that's true. He also beat out a much greater quantity of moderate candidates than he did of the deeper Leftist. So, in his own party, he is much farther left than center so that's your first fallacy. Now, given that the entire party is deeply Leftist despite your and others protestations to the contrary, even the moderates are very Leftist on the over all scale, that makes Biden a deeply Leftist guy. Add in his amazingly Leftist, Totalitarian and Socialist policies and you end up with a deeply Leftist POTUS not a centrist like you want to present him to be. On the over all scale, he is a deeply Leftist politician. On your limited scale, he is still very Leftist. That's your second fallacy. It is very disingenuous of you to try and frame the deeply leftist guy and his policies as centrist in any way just because it suits you and your argument to the majority re. the Overton window is your third fallacy. Biden's polices are not and were not popular. The lies, deceitful fabrications and flowery prose covering his policies and pushed by the mass media are popular. If you believe they are, then it is just further confirmation of your disconnection from reality.

No, no, and no. A danged whole bunch of no's, man! Lol. Look up what Leftist means, PLEASE. Biden doesn't even support Medicare For All. That's like entry-level Leftism in this country. It's conservatism in the other first world nations. Biden is a centrist. The whole Democrat party is a centrist party whose primary focus is maintaining the status quo. It has some progressive members, but not enough to even call it a progressive party overall in my estimation. A Leftist party? Saying that is a clear demonstration that you don't know the meaning of the word. Note that I'm not insulting you, I'm trying to help you see the perspective of most of the world and a significant portion of our country.

No one gives two fucks about if you are tired of hearing about Biden. You and a lot of other people voted for him, and make no mistake, if you didn't vote for Trump then you voted for Biden. A lot of shady shit happened to get him elected and now the country as a whole is being damaged by his policies and you and others are making excuses. You are responsible. It's your fault.

Please excuse my indulgence in whataboutism, but I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of Trumpers who accused people of having TDS, constantly posting articles about how awful Biden is. It really is something else!

I have no issue with talking with people that have opposing viewpoints. I DO have an issue talking with children that make excuses for their bad behavior, support plainly evil ideologies, think it's ok to foment racism, classism and now try and create a new point of division with a lie and false narrative to create a new class of "Untermensch" because others won't go along with a medical procedure all in the hopes of allaying their deeply selfish and grossly over inflated fear of death. I DO have an issue talking with people who can't support their position, when called out on their lies, deceit and false data resort to calling me racist, sexist, homophobic and bigoted or those that support those that do. I DO have an issue talking with people that have situational ethics and who's morals shift with the changing of the political wind. Moral and ethical dishonesty are abhorrent and you have demonstrated a lot of it with double standards, excuses and evasion tactics. I DO have a problem talking with people who are condescending, arrogant, elitist and grating, such as yourself, in their attempts to appear superior all the while presenting the flimsiest arguments, resorting to distractions, name calling and so on in an effort to have some kind of high ground.

Uh huh. So, basically all the stuff you do to me preemptively. Half of these criticisms are literally things that you, PB or TG engage in routinely on here. I've honestly tried really hard to avoid name-calling, and only resorted to it when mocking others' lack of other arguments. My initial "Adorable" thread being the exception. It was just a knee-jerk reaction to seeing that the same handful of guys was still locked in the same 20-year conservative confirmation feedback loop that you were in last time I was here.

I really have no idea what lies you and the other dude are accusing me of. I haven't told any that I'm aware of. Please enlighten me.

So pardon me if you find my positions simple, brutish and common and I am inflexible and resolute. I did not reach my positions quickly, some have changed over the years, however some blow hard trying to flex a vocabulary on a text forum who has proven mediocre at best in reason and rational debate has little chance of influencing them.

Man, you're in a forum for a TEXT-BASED GAME. If you think me using the word disingenuous(or any other word I've used, I don't know what you're referring to) is flexing my vocabulary, I really don't know what to tell you. I read a lot. You kind of...have to to play this game? Maybe I'm doing it wrong.

Overall, I'm really disappointed in this thrashing. I'm sure you felt like you were delivering a mighty blow as you were writing it. You missed your target because you're attacking the paper tiger that you think I am rather than the person I am. The sting just isn't there. Sorry.

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Sick of hearing about Biden but still wants to talk about Trump.

Did Trump steal your meds? Because, damn, you're a mental reject.

Scroll back to the beginning and see who inserted Trump into this post about vaccines.

And regarding your insults: What would you think of someone who constantly responds to everything you say with some variation of "you're stupid"? Would you give any weight to their criticism?

[Tgo01]

Okay so Flap is Ashliana right?

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Okay so Flap is Ashliana right?

Here we see Players' Corner Tactic Number Two. X person is Y person.







So this new vaccine sounds cool. I'm all for long-term vaccinations, having to get a shot every year sucks. I do it for the flu anyway though so if that's how it's gotta be...I'm sure my employer will do a two-for-one special in coming years.

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I wanted to make a separate post to address another point that I thought of while reading the post but couldn't really find a spot for in the point-by-point.

This stuff:

Now, given that the entire party is deeply Leftist despite your and others protestations to the contrary, even the moderates are very Leftist on the over all scale, that makes Biden a deeply Leftist guy. Add in his amazingly Leftist, Totalitarian and Socialist policies and you end up with a deeply Leftist POTUS not a centrist like you want to present him to be. On the over all scale, he is a deeply Leftist politician.

I DO have an issue talking with children that make excuses for their bad behavior, support plainly evil ideologies, think it's ok to foment racism, classism and now try and create a new point of division with a lie and false narrative to create a new class of "Untermensch" because others won't go along with a medical procedure all in the hopes of allaying their deeply selfish and grossly over inflated fear of death. I DO have an issue talking with people who can't support their position, when called out on their lies, deceit and false data resort to calling me racist, sexist, homophobic and bigoted or those that support those that do.

Reads like pure unrefined crazy to most folks under 30 in this country. I'm not calling it that and I'm well above, but I am a little bit "hip" to what "the kids" are "into".

No, it's not crazy. That's a bit too simple. I recognize it as the signs of someone who's been fed lies and most likely is surrounded by other people that believe the same lies. The things that you believe about your own countrymen are simply not true, and it breaks my heart to see you regurgitating the talking points that fuel your hatred towards your fellow man.

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Also like. Poops and farts and stuff. Don't want to elevate the discourse too much!

[Parkbandit]

Don't want to elevate the discourse too much!

You aren't capable of elevating anything.

Sorry MacGuyver.