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Thread: Things that made you Facepalm today (Political Version)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    So you think the government should instead tax more of their profits because surely the government can do better right?
    I think that with nearly a quarter of US households on some safety net program or another proves beyond a doubt that corporations and reduced taxation is doing nothing but drive us welfare roles and the national debt. Until such time as more than just Walmart, Costco, Amazon and a handful of other national companies offer a minimum wage, that corporations as a whole will have to bear the burden of 40 years of failed trickle down economic policy.

    Even if we buy your argument that corporations don't pass on their profits to their employees...you do realize they do invest that money and that usually means they hire MORE people right?
    They SOMETIMES invest profits in new domestic infrastructure or increased domestic operations. I think you're overlooking the very real fact of manufacturing and call center jobs moving overseas and the massive layoffs in the US that results. This is the reason behind the push for minimum taxes on global profits. Wells Fargo doesn't deserve a lower tax rate in the US for sending all their call center jobs to India, despite what you may think.

    You think Walmart would have nearly 1.6 million US employees right now if the government taxed even more of their money? But the federal government is so careful with tax payer dollars!
    Yes, I firmly believe that the money placed into the hands of Americans in the form of stimulus or aid payments have benefited corporate America immensely. Profits for Walmart, Amazon, etc., were massively higher as a result of Americans having disposable income. This is what trickle down economics could have been if corporations invested the majority of their profits in employees and domestic operations; more domestic spending.

    Matter of fact, I think the reason why you and the Republicans are in such a panic is because the small portion of the covid-19 stimulus that went to Americans exposed the gross lies about trickle down economics. Americans who received $16 an hour in unemployment compensation have no interest in returning to Bobby Dean's diner making 8.75 an hour. Suddenly Americans understand they're not hostages to their dead end jobs and are promoting.

    Surely they wouldn't piss it all away on a park in San Fransisco from Nancy Pelosi's slush fund!
    Hyperbole, your expertise. I think as always, you attack what you don't understand, don't support or are told the opposition of by Faux News. When someone surprising posts hard data that blows your hundred year old notions of capitalism out the window, your turtle up until you're told a new lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    They SOMETIMES invest profits in new domestic infrastructure or increased domestic operations.
    They do it all the time. Amazon started out in a garage selling books. If we were to believe your verbal diarrhea Amazon still operates out of a garage and somehow still makes billions in sales and uses all of their money on executive bonuses.

    Surely if the federal government took more of Amazon's money then they could have built something like Amazon.
    Last edited by Tgo01; 11-01-2021 at 07:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    They do it all the time. Amazon started out in a garage selling books. If we were to believe your verbal diarrhea Amazon still operates out of a garage and somehow still makes billions in sales and uses all of their money on executive bonuses.

    Surely if the federal government took more of Amazon's money then they could have built something like Amazon.
    Congratulations, you named the country whose business model (selling and delivering goods) makes it prohibitively expensive to send jobs overseas. That's NOT the same as manufacturing, telecom, customer service, technical support, programming which have seen record numbers of jobs being downsized domestically so that corporations can enjoy higher profits. But I think you knew that is what I meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    Congratulations, you named the country whose business model (selling and delivering goods) makes it prohibitively expensive to send jobs overseas. That's NOT the same as manufacturing, telecom, customer service, technical support, programming which have seen record numbers of jobs being downsized domestically so that corporations can enjoy higher profits. But I think you knew that is what I meant.
    Wait wait wait...are you suggesting if we taxed corporations more they would send fewer jobs overseas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Wait wait wait...are you suggesting if we taxed corporations more they would send fewer jobs overseas?
    I'm pointing out that if minimum global tax rates made it less lucrative to move massive profits overseas to tax havens, that fewer jobs would be incentived for moving overseas. As some of you are so fond of pointing out, companies exploit child labor, cheap labor and enjoy moving the profits from these savings to tax shelters to avoid US taxes. Minimum tax rates would help resolve all three, though mostly the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    That's what nearly every economist has pointed out for decades
    lolwut?

    I would ask you to cite a source, but we both know you are just full of shit anyways.. so why bother.

    Also: I bet you heard 50 "Intelligence officials" wrote that Hunter Biden's laptop story was Russian disinformation... and still believe that is the case.
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    3 million more popular votes. I'd say the numbers speak for themselves. Gerrymandering won for Trump.

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    Regulating firearms to keep them out of the hands of criminals, the unhinged, etc. meets the first test of the 2nd amendment, 'well-regulated'.

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    You show me a video of me typing that and Ill admit it. (This was the excuse he came up with when he was called out for a really stupid post)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkbandit View Post
    lolwut?

    I would ask you to cite a source, but we both know you are just full of shit anyways.. so why bother.

    Also: I bet you heard 50 "Intelligence officials" wrote that Hunter Biden's laptop story was Russian disinformation... and still believe that is the case.
    Your ignorance of this subject is stunning. But here, go educate yourself pleb.

    https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/pol.6.1.230

    https://www.nber.org/system/files/wo...035/w21035.pdf

    https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/...spective-42986

    https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...ents-promises/

    http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/107919/1/Ho..._published.pdf


    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...?sref=AMvrlaMu

    https://www.elibrary.imf.org/view/jo...le-A001-en.xml

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill...equality%3famp

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/1153421

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-REB-5658

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/psmag.c...-indeed-a-joke

    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...e_Trickle_Down

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...HIvHoW8BT-ZppY

    https://www.hoover.org/sites/default...Down_FINAL.pdf

    We document the cumulative effect of four decades of income growth below the growth of per capita gross national income and estimate that aggregate income for the population below the 90th percentile over this time period would have been $2.5 trillion (67 percent) higher in 2018 had income growth since 1975 remained as equitable as it was in the first two post-War decades.
    https://www.rand.org/pubs/working_papers/WRA516-1.html

    https://thestandrewseconomist.com/20...kle-economics/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    I'm pointing out that if minimum global tax rates made it less lucrative to move massive profits overseas to tax havens, that fewer jobs would be incentived for moving overseas. As some of you are so fond of pointing out, companies exploit child labor, cheap labor and enjoy moving the profits from these savings to tax shelters to avoid US taxes. Minimum tax rates would help resolve all three, though mostly the latter.
    Global taxes lol.

    Get a job loser. Or sell drugs or something so you'll have an income and can stop whining.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Back The Reigning Retard Champion most consider the GOAT View Post
    3 million more popular votes. I'd say the numbers speak for themselves. Gerrymandering won for Trump.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seran-the 2 time Retard Champion View Post
    Regulating firearms to keep them out of the hands of criminals, the unhinged, etc. meets the first test of the 2nd amendment, 'well-regulated'.

    Quote Originally Posted by SHAFT-Internet Toughguy RL Loser View Post
    You show me a video of me typing that and Ill admit it. (This was the excuse he came up with when he was called out for a really stupid post)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    I'm pointing out that if minimum global tax rates made it less lucrative to move massive profits overseas to tax havens, that fewer jobs would be incentived for moving overseas. As some of you are so fond of pointing out, companies exploit child labor, cheap labor and enjoy moving the profits from these savings to tax shelters to avoid US taxes. Minimum tax rates would help resolve all three, though mostly the latter.
    A global tax would be collected by a global government body. Hard pass.

    I would much rather ban trade with countries that don't abide by our societal standards. Make it easier to access our own natural resources, end income tax and tax consumption.


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