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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    What was she specifically doing that warranted her being shot and no one else?

    It’s not like the capitol building is Area 51 or a top secret military base or something. They give tours there all the time.

    If we are saying police can now open fire on unarmed citizens whenever a congress person is scared then we might as well just stop pretending we live in a first world democracy and bow down before our overlords now.

    At least when the fake narrative that an officer was murdered people could still fall back on that and somehow blame her for that. But now we don’t even have that. We are saying scared congress person = open season on unarmed citizens. Remember the same congress people who want to make it illegal for you to protect yourself with a gun.
    If 3 people break into your house, and you shoot one of them, you’re a murderer too?!
    Your logic is this: they only broke into your house! The person you killed didn’t do anything to deserve it!! Maybe he only wanted some food? Or just a cup of water! Why did you only kill him?! Why not the other two?! You murderer!

    She broke into the Capitol, where armed officers were there, they have every right to use deadly force. It doesn’t matter if she deserved to die or not. When you do something illegal, you face the consequences whatever they may be, she happened to pay with her life.
    If you wish to bring of BLM protest, if the BLM protestors broke into a government building, guess what? If they got killed for it, that’s their fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    If 3 people break into your house, and you shoot one of them, you’re a murderer too?!
    Your logic is this: they only broke into your house! The person you killed didn’t do anything to deserve it!! Maybe he only wanted some food? Or just a cup of water! Why did you only kill him?! Why not the other two?! You murderer!

    She broke into the Capitol, where armed officers were there, they have every right to use deadly force. It doesn’t matter if she deserved to die or not. When you do something illegal, you face the consequences whatever they may be, she happened to pay with her life.
    If you wish to bring of BLM protest, if the BLM protestors broke into a government building, guess what? If they got killed for it, that’s their fault.
    Your argument about the right to shoot people is simply incorrect and demonstrates a complete lack of understanding and knowledge of firearm and home defense laws. Just because people break in is not legal justification to shoot them in any court in the country, not even the castle doctrine states have this so you are making a specious argument. Simply put, in order to justify shooting in self defense, you must prove that your or another's life is in danger. Colloquially, you must reasonably fear for your life. That means if someone breaks in and does nothing and does not approach you with a weapon, does not approach you in a threatening manner and does not attack you, then you can't shoot them. Castle doctrine means you don't have an obligation to back down from an attacker and flee if at all possible so it doesn't apply here.

    So, simply put, her mere presence does not justify or imply the necessity or reasonable threat necessary to justify a shooting. Unarmed, not advancing toward the cop, not making any threatening gestures or yelling at the cop. Where is your typical Leftist fervor against police shootings of "mostly peaceful" protesters? OH, right, you changed your position because you want to justify the cops actions in support of your agenda. Stop being a hypocritical ass. You can be against the protest and against the break in without saying it was ok to murder this woman, but you won't.

    BTW, those "shoot on sight just because you are there" areas typically require signs similar to this one to be posted, often in multiple languages. The Capitol is not one such area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~ View Post
    Your argument about the right to shoot people is simply incorrect and demonstrates a complete lack of understanding and knowledge of firearm and home defense laws. Just because people break in is not legal justification to shoot them in any court in the country, not even the castle doctrine states have this so you are making a specious argument. Simply put, in order to justify shooting in self defense, you must prove that your or another's life is in danger. Colloquially, you must reasonably fear for your life. That means if someone breaks in and does nothing and does not approach you with a weapon, does not approach you in a threatening manner and does not attack you, then you can't shoot them. Castle doctrine means you don't have an obligation to back down from an attacker and flee if at all possible so it doesn't apply here.

    So, simply put, her mere presence does not justify or imply the necessity or reasonable threat necessary to justify a shooting. Unarmed, not advancing toward the cop, not making any threatening gestures or yelling at the cop. Where is your typical Leftist fervor against police shootings of "mostly peaceful" protesters? OH, right, you changed your position because you want to justify the cops actions in support of your agenda. Stop being a hypocritical ass. You can be against the protest and against the break in without saying it was ok to murder this woman, but you won't.

    Umm, for example, in Kentucky, yeah them merely breaking into your house is enough cause for you to use deadly force.

    Under changes made to Kentucky law in 2006, a resident can almost always assume that the person breaking into their home means to cause harm. The law gives the resident the presumptive right to use or physical force or deadly physical force to repel any attacker or intruder.

    The Castle Doctrine legally protects you in Kentucky under these circumstances.

    There was a forceful and unlawful entry into your home, business, or occupied vehicle.
    You were not the original aggressor.
    You were not engaged in criminal activity.
    You have a legal right to be where you are.


    https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/cri...-intruder.html

    There is a split amongst the states as to whether or not deadly force can be used. The majority of states hold that any degree of physical force, including deadly force, can be used by the occupant to protect against an invader. But there is a strong minority of states, including West Virginia, that requires a reasonable belief that the intruder intended to inflict serious bodily injury.

    So yeah, you can shoot someone and kill them if they break into your house.. in the majority of states.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    If 3 people break into your house, and you shoot one of them, you’re a murderer too?!
    Okay so you're saying all of the mostly peaceful protesters should have been mowed down in cold blood for simple trespassing and breaking and entering and because a bunch of old fucking congresspeople were scared?

    Yeah, that sounds about right coming from the dictator lover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Okay so you're saying all of the mostly peaceful protesters should have been mowed down in cold blood for simple trespassing and breaking and entering and because a bunch of old fucking congresspeople were scared?

    Yeah, that sounds about right coming from the dictator lover.
    If someone breaks into, and trespasses, and they get shot, it’s their fault.. they shouldn’t have been there and that is a possible consequence.
    Largely peaceful.... lol? The people who broke into the Capitol weren't largely peaceful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    If someone breaks into, and trespasses, and they get shot, it’s their fault..
    So yes. You had the audacity to call Trump a dictator for 4+ years but are perfectly fine with Democrats ordering the murder of protesters because they were scared of them trespassing.

    You’re a pathetic shill.

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    TG, you keep adding all this irrelevant information to try and make your case.

    Simple facts:
    1. A mob marched on and stormed the Capitol building.
    2. They illegally entered the area that was being protected by barricades and police officers.
    2. They destroyed barricades, and broke windows to enter an area they weren’t allowed to be at, at that time.
    3. They assaulted armed officers in this process.
    4. They looted and destroyed things in the Capitol building. The national guard was called.

    It’s sad that she died, I wish she didn’t. But what she did was illegal and a possible consequence of her actions was dying.
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    "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." ~ The Constitution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    So yes. You had the audacity to call Trump a dictator for 4+ years but are perfectly fine with Democrats ordering the murder of protesters because they were scared of them trespassing.

    You’re a pathetic shill.

    1. Show me once where I called Trump a dictator. Because the most I’ve ever said was Trump has authoritarian tendencies.
    2. Show me any type of evidence that the democrats ordered this women killed or for the mob that stormed the Capitol to be killed.

    Or do what you normally do, deflect, do whataboutism or fling another insult.

    Come on TG, back up your bold claims.
    Last edited by Solkern; 02-06-2021 at 11:58 PM.
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    "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." ~ The Constitution

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