George Floyd killing and the aftermath

[Gelston]

Hey, you found their truck!

[Tgo01]

The Catholic Worker is an organization that pretty consistently does 2 things: feeds and houses the poor, and protests for peace and against war. "Blessed are the peacemakers" etc. The idea that a 75 year old peace protester is your ANTIFA boogeyman is absurd.

And an Air Force officer was part of the Antifa "defund the police" movement and ambushed and murdered a police officer so don't give me this shit.

[Tgo01]

No way, the mayor of the city who is going to have to pay out a lawsuit over this is saying the guy was up to no good.... Well must be true.

That doesn't sound very Democrat of him to put money over the well being of a person.

[Gelston]

And an Air Force officer was part of the Antifa "defund the police" movement and ambushed and murdered a police officer so don't give me this shit.

He was an NCO, not an officer.

[Tgo01]

He was an NCO, not an officer.

What's a little commission between officers.

[drauz]

That doesn't sound very Democrat of him to put money over the well being of a person.

Sounds like a normal politician, democrat or republican doesn't make a difference they're both POS organizations.

[Gelston]

What's a little commission between officers.

Everything.

[Tgo01]

Sounds like a normal politician, democrat or republican doesn't make a difference they're both POS organizations.

No. Democrats assured me human lives are more important than money and possessions and that they would never value possessions over human lives.

[time4fun]

Not worth responding to.



This is not correct and lays bare the fundamental difference between the left and the right. Those who are conservative do not want your handouts, do not want your bloated social policies, and do not want the government mandating their health. They want jobs, they want the ability to grow and prosper as far as their efforts can take them, and they want the freedom to make their own choices. You think people who are down can only rise up with a government handout? You greatly underestimate the heart of the average American.

I'll say it again, JOBS.

It's about jobs and opportunity. Policies that create jobs, strive for full employment, and nurture a healthy economy. That is what they voted for. And it's sad that you think that's just a 'narrative.'

It is true actually- both exit polling and pre-election polling consistently showed this. Clinton's voters came from people who were sub-$50k and those who were over $200k. Trump's voters came from the space in between.

Part of the reason why this was so often missed is that the people talking about it just automatically assumed no college degree meant struggling financially (which speaks to the bias of the people who get to tell the stories).

And while a narrative can absolutely be based on fact (EVERYTHING in politics is a narrative)- the reality is that for Trump is really was just empty words. Trump largely lent his support behind traditional GOP policy priorities, which are not friendly to people who are struggling financially. Fighting against minimum wage laws, trying to ban collective bargaining, tax breaks that overwhelmingly give money back to the wealthy (and then result in government-funded programs being shut down due to lack of funds), ending Social Security, trying to repeal the ACA, heck- Citizens United- which formally disenfranchises people who aren't wealthy- was a direct result of Republican judicial priorities.

As a reminder- in the aftermath of the 2008 crash Congressional Republicans were threatening to shut down the government because they wanted us to stop paying unemployment benefits to people without jobs. During a massive recession that was teetering on the brink of becoming a depression. And a massive chunk of the people who were laid off were government workers. In the very early days of the recession, Congressional Republicans were constantly fighting to reduce Federal funding to State governments, which was forcing them to lay off far more people than they should have. And State Republican governments were no better.

And the credit you're giving to Trump for the economy is honestly silly. Up until this recent crash, we were on the longest stretch of economic growth we've ever had- which started in January of 2009. And that growth is credited to the Obama administration's Recovery Act. The Obama administration and Congress at that time are the ones who jump started the economy. The Obama administration actually steered the policy priorities and took some chances (like massive, direct funding to state governments) that had never been done before but which paid off beautifully.


Trump showed up 7 years into the growth streak, and Republicans were already giving him credit for the economic growth during his first year- while he was still on an Obama-era budget (and despite the fact that the Trump administration was notoriously hands off in those early days when it came to policy decisions- letting Congressional Republicans largely set the priorities). And on that note- the GOP Tax Plan never created any of the growth they claimed it would- which is what the CBO told everyone would happen. If you recall, the GOP then began attacking the CBO as a biased agency, but they were right.

And so that "Trump made our economy strong!" line- it's just a narrative.

As is the notion that the GOP is somehow friendlier to people who are struggling financially than Democrats.

[Tgo01]

This is why you don't let Democrats get anywhere near positions of power.

Happening in Seattle:

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status...614123010?s=20

Almost like this was never really about George Floyd and all political. So weird.

This Tweet sounds like a joke but he was one of the people who were talking about the "autonomous" zone and it sounded like he was there himself and supported the zone.

But much of the left is such a parody of itself that it's hard to tell.