Russia Investigation Heating Up

[Androidpk]

Either Manafort is holding out for a pardon(s) or he's worried about Russian reprisal.

[cwolff]

I'm pretty sure Tom Clancy already wrote this book =/

The Hunt for Orange Bloviator~A taut edge of your seat thriller about an overgrown oompah loompah who, with the help of his Kremlin allies, secures the highest seat of power in the country. Can the former Marine turned intelligence officer bring down this menace before the Bloviator destroys the nation.

[Androidpk]

I've probably said this before but I believe there will be more charges coming for Manafort related to the Trump Tower meeting.

[cwolff]

I've probably said this before but I believe there will be more charges coming for Manafort related to the Trump Tower meeting.

I agree. We'll have to see what happens but that would make sense. For sure, Don Jr. is in jeopardy.

Mueller will probably keep that part of the investigation under wraps until the rest of it falls into place if he has a case to make against close trumpsters or the POTUS. It's possible he comes back with something really benign and nothing too bad regarding trump, but if he is making a case against the president, he'll have to play that very carefully.

[SHAFT]

1-800-NO-COLLUSION

[Parkbandit]

Oh honey, I've had just enough wine and am just bored enough with DM to give you what you've been asking for but so DESPERATELY don't want:

Oh honey , no amount of wine, alcohol or beer would make you look less foolish.

Russia meddling in our elections:

As explained ad nauseam to you... I've never said that Russia didn't meddle. I've stated that Russia didn't collude with Trump to cause Hillary to lose. Thank you for proving my point, yet again.

On Trump firing Comey to stop the Russia investigation:

What does that prove? Are you suggesting that what I've been saying from the get go.. that Comey works at the pleasure of the President and can be fired at anytime for anything is wrong? Bitch, please. 0-2 so far.

That Clinton broke the law and would be indicted "any day now

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Quote Originally Posted by time4fun View Post
1) The irony here is your assumption that it's the Democrats who've been playing partisan on this whole thing. This entire thing came out of the Benghazi hearings. And the whole notion that she was about to be indicted any day came from the right-wing media. Newsflash- it was VERY partisan. But that didn't come from the left.

How does that change anything I've said? It's like you really, REALLY want to be right.. and will simply throw up quotes that doesn't prove your case at all. 0-3.

On the Steele Dossier: (PS please show us a direct quote from Steele saying the Dossier was made up....we'll wait)



On the Steele Dossier being used to get a FISA warrant:

I've already given you a partial credit on this. 1-3

And:

Oh here's a fun one: you buying into the idea that Obama wiretapped Trump (AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA)

Not on your original list. No extra credit given.

Another fun one- when I pointed out that Trump had just invited the Russians to hack Clinton, and you acted like it was the stupidest thing in the world to point out (Spoiler alert- Mueller confirmed that they DID try to hack her THAT DAY)

Quote Originally Posted by time4fun
DORAL, Fla. — Donald J. Trump said Wednesday that he hoped Russia had hacked Hillary Clinton’s email, essentially encouraging an adversarial foreign power’s cyberspying on a secretary of state’s correspondence.

“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said, staring directly into the cameras during a press conference. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

Mr. Trump’s call was an extraordinary moment at a time when Russia is being accused of meddling in the U.S. presidential election. His comments came amid questions about the hacking of the Democratic National Committee’s computer servers, which American intelligence agencies have told the White House they have “high confidence” was the work of the Russian government.


Holy shit. He just told a foreign government to illegally hack into the emails of someone running for President and encouraged them to influence a U.S. election.

If you don't have any sense of humor at all and a basic 3rd grade intellectual level, I could see how you would misinterpret this as evidence of collusion.

I really could have kept going, but I figure that's enough crow for any one person to eat.
The best part about this trip down memory lane? Seeing how when you jeer and shriek the most- that tells everyone when you are flat out wrong.

Nothing on SCOTUS decision? Weird. It went down EXACTLY how I said it would.

Mahalo my bitter, sad little man with no understanding of law or politics.

Bitter? Bitch, you just spent how long on a Friday night, searching through my posts, trying your hardest to prove you were right about something.. and you only proved you were a dumb, sad little bitch with no life and a knack for being wrong on most things political.

[Parkbandit]

1-800-NO-COLLUSION

1-800-meltdownsyndrome

[Androidpk]

Yo, T4F, have you seen any reports about Weisselberg being granted complete immunity from prosecution vs. transactional or use immunity and does that mean anything?

https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/08/2...he-presidency/

[time4fun]

https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/08/2...he-presidency/

Very interesting.

Seems like it's time I got my NY Times subscription back as I managed to read every outlet except the one that broke the story. #researchskills

This would suggest that either they don't feel like they have enough on Trump Org to formally charge them, that they've just decided not to charge them, OR that one of the sources for the NY Times article is intentionally trying to mitigate any blowback on Weisselberg. Indeed, the source may actually have been Weisselberg himself. Whenever these stories come out- I always try to ask myself who ends up looking better because of it. That normally tells you a lot about who the sources are.

I do find it incredibly hard to believe that Weisselberg is only granted use immunity for the Cohen case. He's directly implicated in too many of these cases for either him or prosecutors to be thinking about this all in such compartmentalized ways. Having said that- the author makes a really good point: Weisselberg is still working at the Trump Organization. That alone does undercut my argument. And if it IS true he agreed to use immunity, then that suggests that they're not looking at prosecuting him for anything else right now. (Or at least that he's reasonably sure they won't)

[Fortybox]

Very interesting.

Seems like it's time I got my NY Times subscription back as I managed to read every left-leaning outlet except the one that broke the story. #biasedresearchskills

This would suggest that either they don't feel like they have enough on Trump Org to formally charge them, that they've just decided not to charge them, OR that one of the sources for the NY Times article is intentionally trying to mitigate any blowback on Weisselberg. Indeed, the source may actually have been Weisselberg himself. Whenever these stories come out- I always try to ask myself how can I tie this directly to Trump, regardless of what is being said, and who ends up looking better because of it. That normally tells you a lot about who the sources are.

I do find it incredibly hard to believe that Weisselberg is only granted use immunity for the Cohen case. He's directly implicated in too many of these cases for either him or prosecutors to be thinking about this all in such compartmentalized ways. Having said that- the author makes a really good point: Weisselberg is still working at the Trump Organization. That alone does undercut my argument and I am completely and utterly wrong like I usually am. And if it IS true he agreed to use immunity, then that suggests that they're not looking at prosecuting him for anything else right now. (Or at least that he's reasonably sure they won't)

Fixed.