Climate Change Report

[Warriorbird]

HMMM.

http://www.insightcrime.org/news-ana...e-drug-smuggle

Is Tgo01 French? Sources don't say!

[Tgo01]

I was trying to think of the perfect word to use there and I thought "Ah ha! Flak!" and I was even careful to think "Remember, flak, not flake" but I still typed up flake

I blame the weed.

[Parkbandit]

This is getting curious now. Certain groups say the world is going to end and we must invest in green energy to save it and those groups are to be taken seriously.

Other groups say the world is going to end but going green isn't going to do shit and those groups should be mocked?

How is the common man supposed to know which groups to take seriously and which groups to mock?

Touche.

If you don't think this anti-capitalism / anti-business / anti-bank isn't at the root of the Progressive party and the force behind most environmentalist groups in the world.. you simply aren't paying attention.

It's easy to spot.. business is blamed for most problems.

[Thondalar]

If you don't think this anti-capitalism / anti-business / anti-bank isn't at the root of the Progressive party and the force behind most environmentalist groups in the world.. you simply aren't paying attention.

And this is what gets to the core of it. It's not that conservatives are ignoring science...well, some of them are, but hell, people will be people...it's that they're fighting against blatantly harmful legislation. I like how it usually gets twisted to religious lines too, right...like the anti-science Christians hate the planet...

http://www.theguardian.com/environme...el-investments

Apparently an organization representing half a billion Christians just announced they're no longer going to invest their endowments in companies that produce fossil fuels.

Interesting.

[Warriorbird]

If you don't think this anti-capitalism / anti-business / anti-bank isn't at the root of the Progressive party and the force behind most environmentalist groups in the world.. you simply aren't paying attention.

It's easy to spot.. business is blamed for most problems.

It's funny. The Progressives (who were often Republicans) pretty much lost all power. Then we ended up with riotous deregulation in the 1920s and the ensuing Depression caused FDR.

You could say that Libertarians caused the greatest triumph of Progressive thought.

After that we had the greatest period of economic growth the country has ever known.

AWFUL.

[Latrinsorm]

It's funny. The Progressives (who were often Republicans) pretty much lost all power. Then we ended up with riotous deregulation in the 1920s and the ensuing Depression caused FDR.

You could say that Libertarians caused the greatest triumph of Progressive thought.

After that we had the greatest period of economic growth the country has ever known.

AWFUL.

Only because of the Republican controlled Congress.

...I'm being informed that the Democrats not only controlled Congress, but had a supermajority in the Senate. Typical reality with its liberal bias.

[Thondalar]

After that we had the greatest period of economic growth the country has ever known.

Sort of. First of all you have to consider the context...with the inherent resource wealth of the United States, and the general economic freedom compared to other government systems, a comeback was inevitable. "Greatest economic growth" is a bit misleading...of course it was eventually the greatest growth, because it came after the greatest collapse. I'm sure you'd like to give Democrat Andrew Johnson credit for the economic growth after the devastation of the Civil War, too. The normal talking point here would be it took WWII before the economy returned to pre-1930 levels...but I'm not going to fall in to that trap.

[Tgo01]

If you don't think this anti-capitalism / anti-business / anti-bank isn't at the root of the Progressive party and the force behind most environmentalist groups in the world.. you simply aren't paying attention.

I just found it funny how this entire thread we've heard "Oh you guys (Republicans) just don't want to listen to the experts! Man is dooming Earth!" then as soon as we start listing some quotes from experts and opinions of environmental groups that either say the world isn't doomed or the conventional solutions aren't going to work then the same people are saying "Well those guys are just stupid heads. The other other experts are the ones we should listen to. Why, just look where they meet for Goodness Sake!"

[Warriorbird]

Sort of. First of all you have to consider the context...with the inherent resource wealth of the United States, and the general economic freedom compared to other government systems, a comeback was inevitable. "Greatest economic growth" is a bit misleading...of course it was eventually the greatest growth, because it came after the greatest collapse. I'm sure you'd like to give Democrat Andrew Johnson credit for the economic growth after the devastation of the Civil War, too. The normal talking point here would be it took WWII before the economy returned to pre-1930 levels...but I'm not going to fall in to that trap.

Why would I want to give Andrew Johnson credit for anything? I understand you're a conservative and don't understand realignment elections though.

The period of economic growth I was referring to was after World War 2, not during.

I just found it funny how this entire thread we've heard "Oh you guys (Republicans) just don't want to listen to the experts! Man is dooming Earth!" then as soon as we start listing some quotes from experts and opinions of environmental groups that either say the world isn't doomed or the conventional solutions aren't going to work then the same people are saying "Well those guys are just stupid heads. The other other experts are the ones we should listen to. Why, just look where they meet for Goodness Sake!"

I'm sure that you can understand that a collection of environmental groups from China and some extremists who want to go bow down to the Chinese and bash America might not be the folks we wanted to listen to. Just replace China with Venezuela. Then again, maybe you can't. Maybe I've overestimated you. Maybe you can't really see the difference between a bunch of people paid by Hugo Chavez's successors and most of the scientific world. That'd be pretty sad, but not so surprising.

[Parkbandit]

It's funny. The Progressives (who were often Republicans) pretty much lost all power. Then we ended up with riotous deregulation in the 1920s and the ensuing Depression caused FDR.

You could say that Libertarians caused the greatest triumph of Progressive thought.

After that we had the greatest period of economic growth the country has ever known.

AWFUL.

Please tell me American History isn't one of the courses you teach.

Please.