More Obamacare fuckups

[cwolff]

The following quote is in direct response to the things I listed that we are now talking about:

I bolded, italicized, underlined and put the part in red just to make sure there is no confusion as to what I'm referring to.

Oh...

[Atlanteax]

In the meantime, you are guilty of doing that *all the time* cwolff.

[cwolff]

In the meantime, you are guilty of doing that *all the time* cwolff.

No I'm not. Even this time I didn't do that. I asked the question "if they are real issues then why aren't they being raised" and Tg's interpretation of that was to assume I questioned whether he was even telling the truth personally. See read below.

ut...you just questioned...if I was even telling the truth...about..those things...

ATL, you fall into the same trap as the others. You assume before you write and you assume that people are trying to trap you. Can't even converse with you because you'll reply "I'm not falling for your bullshit blah blah blah"

[Parkbandit]

No I'm not. Even this time I didn't do that. I asked the question "if they are real issues then why aren't they being raised" and Tg's interpretation of that was to assume I questioned whether he was even telling the truth personally. See read below.

ATL, you fall into the same trap as the others. You assume before you write and you assume that people are trying to trap you. Can't even converse with you because you'll reply "I'm not falling for your bullshit blah blah blah"

"Others" being you?

[Atlanteax]

No I'm not. Even this time I didn't do that.

lol ...

[Methais]

cwolff is like John Cleese's character in the argument clinic sketch.

[Tgo01]

No I'm not. Even this time I didn't do that.

In order to receive the help you need, you must first admit you have a problem.

[Latrinsorm]

What makes you people think that hispanics would vote republican as long as democrats are trying to give them a bunch of free shit?

The key is that "Hispanics" isn't a voting bloc, and Presidential elections aren't based on the popular vote. Some Hispanics are more liberal, some are more conservative. President Bush received the majority of the Hispanic vote in 2000 Florida, because those Hispanics happen to be mostly Cubans who are more conservative, and he therefore won the election. The last two Presidential elections were annihilations so Florida wouldn't have mattered anyway, but we're still talking about 29 electoral votes that the Republicans are needlessly sacrificing. I'm sure there are other states with similar sub-demographics, just not as pronounced.

Apollo Creed

Methais wants to send black men to die needlessly. How am I not surprised.

Republicans/Fox don't have to manufacture anything. There's plenty of shit to go around for everyone.

It's true, so think it through. Why are they manufacturing stories when they have perfectly good ways to attack Obama? What if it has less to do with cogent attacks and more to do with the content of the attacks themselves? Take drones. The Republican base is pro-drone, so they're probably not going to respond to attacks on that front, right? What if everything actually bad about Obama is conservative-leaning? (He is a centrist, logically he would represent values on both sides near to the middle.)

It could be ridiculous, but if it was, why would they have to invent attacks? It takes a lot of work to invent something untrue, I should know. Much easier to just parrot the truth.

Lol...barely. Longest economic recovery since the Depression...yeah, way to go, Barack. What role did he play in that, exactly? Not that I wouldn't mind blaming the sloth-like "recovery" on him, I can't really pinpoint what specifically he did to help it. Enlighten me?

I'm not sure how you define recovery and I know better than to ask. For my own interest, if we measure how long it takes for real GDP to reach the previous peak, we get:

Great Depression - 7 years
Post WW2 - 6 years
Mid 70s - 2 years
Great Recession - 3.5 years

[Tgo01]

It's true, so think it through. Why are they manufacturing stories when they have perfectly good ways to attack Obama? What if it has less to do with cogent attacks and more to do with the content of the attacks themselves? Take drones. The Republican base is pro-drone, so they're probably not going to respond to attacks on that front, right? What if everything actually bad about Obama is conservative-leaning? (He is a centrist, logically he would represent values on both sides near to the middle.)

So now Benghazi never happened?

[Latrinsorm]

So now Benghazi never happened?

That's the correct takeaway, you got it Terry. A+ and a sticker.