Climate Change Report

[Parkbandit]

It's okay. I know you've admitted to doing just that yourself.

Being full of your ironic posts?

You make no sense... but clearly you didn't understand, so allow me:

You are chastising Tg for complaining what others are doing, claiming he does the same thing.

I called it ironic because you complain about other people using insults while using insults to chastise them... sometimes in the same post... which is ironic x 52

[Tgo01]

You really like the Tobacco Institute. You actually think Al Gore is totally truthful. You think Barack Obama never tells lies. None of your chicanery saves you from bad faith and not actually caring about what you're debating about, just like Jeril's cornering Latrin on in the other thread.

You now believe that Jay Carney doesn't spin for Obama. You think that MoveOn and DailyKos possess cores of simple human truth.

You sing Kum-ba-ya a lot. You drink the Kool-Aid.



(The point I'm highlighting is you even making that post represents purposefully fallacious thinking.)

Holy red herring, batman!

[Parkbandit]

Nah, you're purposefully misrepresenting me. I said he HAS done that. What he's done for the nuclear industry and logging industry are different.

If your primary position were PR rather than sales you would be, by Jarvan's definition, a shill.

So, what can he speak intelligently about without you dismissing what he says by calling him a shill and attempting to divert the conversation to something else?

Food he likes?

A football game he watched?

Just as long as it has nothing to do with energy, politics or climate change.. he's ok to offer his opinion without people like you and cwolff automatically dismissing him as a "shill"?

[Jarvan]

Jesus, Now that we finally got you guys to admit Mr. Moore is a shill you immediately move on to rationalization.

Well.. you didn't get us to agree. because I don't know if he is or isn't.

I don't follow this guy around like you must to hear everything he says.

[Jarvan]

Are his credentials as a greenpeace founder and lifelong ecologist relevant?

He has a PHD in Ecology.

meanwhile.. one of the top climatologists for NASA has a PHD in Math. Which I am sure is very relevant because math explains how our planet works so well.

[cwolff]

So, what can he speak intelligently about without you dismissing what he says by calling him a shill and attempting to divert the conversation to something else?

Food he likes?

A football game he watched?

Just as long as it has nothing to do with energy, politics or climate change.. he's ok to offer his opinion without people like you and cwolff automatically dismissing him as a "shill"?

You're still defending him. Why? I've been saying is that he's paid to say this stuff and they didn't let the viewers know this. Haven't even talked about the content of his speech yet that has not stopped you guys from making an assumption about what you think I'm saying. Stay on point and address the issues one at a time.

[Tgo01]

I've not commented on it because I won't be diverted like that.

Dafaq? PB posts a video, I try to discuss what's in the video and all you say is "No no, we're not talking about the video, we're talking about whether or not Moore is a shill."

Me: He's a shill
You: Why do you think corporations are evil?

Man you and WB are the red herring kings today.

When did I ever say you thought all corporations are evil?

For the love of all that is holy man, I've been asking you what your point was in calling Moore a shill for the past 20 pages. You are more than welcome to clear the air but for some reason I think you are incapable. You just heard somewhere that Moore was a shill, you saw Moore was in this video and just kept parroting the shill thing over and over again.

[Warriorbird]

Being full of your ironic posts?

You make no sense... but clearly you didn't understand, so allow me:

You are chastising Tg for complaining what others are doing, claiming he does the same thing.

I called it ironic because you complain about other people using insults while using insults to chastise them... sometimes in the same post... which is ironic x 52

Not actually what I said. Your most recent examples of doing something that you've attacked people in the past over involve posting links without discussion (when you've said people should have more content in their posts), using ... as a constant transition (when you've attacked people over it), using point by point quote stuffed posts (when you used to rail against Tsa'ah over it), and claiming that nobody agrees with someone on something when people clearly do or our game of political football would have ended long ago. You also like to go off on people about using repeated lines of argument but this is one of your favorites and you do it constantly.

[Jarvan]

Nah, you're purposefully misrepresenting me. I said he HAS done that. What he's done for the nuclear industry and logging industry are different.

If your primary position were PR rather than sales you would be, by Jarvan's definition, a shill.

Seriously... MY Definition? Which between what I posted, and what Cwolff posted is an actual Definition, and which is a copy and paste from Wikipedia?

WTF is it my definition, isn't it the ENGLISH definition of Shill?

Seriously dude, WTF is wrong with you? Didn't get to beat your wife this weekend?

[cwolff]

He has a PHD in Ecology.

meanwhile.. one of the top climatologists for NASA has a PHD in Math. Which I am sure is very relevant because math explains how our planet works so well.

Do you want to argue against 1 guy at NASA? I don't even know who you're talking about so we'll need some background and maybe even a different thread so it's so unrelated.

Well.. you didn't get us to agree. because I don't know if he is or isn't.

I don't follow this guy around like you must to hear everything he says.

That's argument from ignorance. It's a new fallacy for this discussion but illuminating.