Quote Originally Posted by kutter View Post
That might be the singularly most disingenuous statement I have ever seen you make, lots of opposing viewpoints have been made, you just do not like them so you pretend that they do not exist. And for clarification, Obamacare is not about health care, it is about HEALTH INSURANCE. Having experienced socialized medicine in the military and VA and commercial medicine now that I am retired, I pick commercial. VA and military are hard working sincere people that are under payed, overworked, short staffed, underfunded and in general burnt out. And if we keep going down the path we are, that is what we will all end up with, thank God I do not have kids and will not live but another 50 years or so.
Don't believe me. That's fine. Would you believe Republican US House Rep Dennis Ross?

“I think one of the most unfortunate things my party did the last three years was not offer an alternative to health care…I wish we had an alternative. For the next six months, we’re going to go into an election, knowing that we’re not going to do anything to address health care. Because we’ve gone so far in the last few years saying No, that we don’t have an alternative to say Yes to. And I think that the American public, when they go to vote, are going to look at credibility before they look at substance.”
You guys can whine all you want about "We have ideas, it's just that no one will listen to us" but that doesn't make it true.