More Obamacare fuckups

[NinjasLeadTheWay]

Just saw your new avatar, nltw. That's a nice shot of Uncle Sam. You got his good side.

I saw the shoulder patch and laughed. "ACA Enforcement"

[Tgo01]

What's not to understand? Only you believe the ACA is designed to cure all our health care issues in it's first year.

What's not to understand? WHAT'S NOT TO UNDERSTAND?!

Were we not told that this law would lower healthcare costs because a lot of young and health people would be forced to pay into the system and thus lower healthcare costs for everyone?

How does that work when half of the people who have gained health insurance so far are receiving Medicaid? How does that work when a million people have already lost their insurance? How does that work when 3 million people are just being put back on their parent's plan?

What happened to your "Read the numbers! READ THEM! Then come back and post." And here I am after reading the numbers and making a counter argument and all you got is "Dude, no."

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[Parkbandit]

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...,5472960.story

At least 4.5 million previously uninsured adults have signed up for state Medicaid programs

An additional 3 million young adults have gained coverage in recent years through a provision of the law that enables dependent children to remain on their parents' health plans until they turn 26

Fewer than a million people who had health plans in 2013 are now uninsured because their plans were canceled for not meeting new standards set by the law

So...9.5 million supposedly previously uninsured people gained healthcare coverage since the Obamacare roll out, 4.5 million of which received Medicaid, 3 million of which stayed on their parent's plans, if we minus the 1 million who lost coverage due to Obamacare we're at 1 million new adults paying for their own healthcare plans since this law was passed, most of whom I'm willing to bet are elderly or very sick people.

Yup, this law sure is gonna bring down them costs! It's like you guys aren't even trying to understand the supposed purpose of this law.

Oh yeah I almost forgot...no one knows how many of these people are actually paying their premiums either.

You might want to check this video out.. You just got shut down at 57 seconds into the video.

It's called the AFFORDABLE Care Act for a reason. BECAUSE IT'S AFFORDABLE.

Fucking racist mother fucker.

[Wrathbringer]

You might want to check this video out.. You just got shut down at 57 seconds into the video.

It's called the AFFORDABLE Care Act for a reason. BECAUSE IT'S AFFORDABLE.

Fucking racist mother fucker.

If you look at the title of a bill in Congress, you can almost guarantee that the bill is going to do exactly the opposite of what the title says. -Ron Paul

[cwolff]

What's not to understand? WHAT'S NOT TO UNDERSTAND?!

Were we not told that this law would lower healthcare costs because a lot of young and health people would be forced to pay into the system and thus lower healthcare costs for everyone?

How does that work when half of the people who have gained health insurance so far are receiving Medicaid? How does that work when a million people have already lost their insurance? How does that work when 3 million people are just being put back on their parent's plan?

What happened to your "Read the numbers! READ THEM! Then come back and post." And here I am after reading the numbers and making a counter argument and all you got is "Dude, no."

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I get that you're ranting about something but I wonder what it really is? All the features that you're harping on are bi-partisan. I think that what you're trying to say is that in your gut you feel that it'll raise health care costs. Is that right? You just don't believe that it will end up working and that we'll all have to pay more for it without getting the desired results? Is that a clear understanding of your position?

[Tgo01]

You might want to check this video out.. You just got shut down at 57 seconds into the video.

It's called the AFFORDABLE Care Act for a reason. BECAUSE IT'S AFFORDABLE.

Fucking racist mother fucker.

Wow what a dumb bitch. Why do the people of California keep voting for this waste of skin?

"It's called affordable for a reason." Oh okay. So if they just pass a bill called "Eliminate unemployment problem" then I guess that means it'll eliminate the unemployment problem.

Holy shit! Why has no one ever though of this before? Maybe I should run for Congress.

[Tgo01]

I get that you're ranting about something but I wonder what it really is?

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All the features that you're harping on are bi-partisan.

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I think that what you're trying to say is that in your gut you feel that it'll raise health care costs. Is that right? You just don't believe that it will end up working and that we'll all have to pay more for it without getting the desired results? Is that a clear understanding of your position?

Since that's what I've been saying since Obamacare was passed yes, that's a very reasonable take on my position.

[cwolff]

You might want to check this video out.. You just got shut down at 57 seconds into the video.

It's called the AFFORDABLE Care Act for a reason. BECAUSE IT'S AFFORDABLE.

Fucking racist mother fucker.

Good video. Thanks for posting that. I really liked her quote of Obama "change is hard". That sums up the heartburn you all are feeling about this. It's a big change and conservatives struggle with that. Oveall, that's probably good for the yin/yang of things.

[cwolff]

Since that's what I've been saying since Obamacare was passed yes, that's a very reasonable take on my position.

See I've been listening. IMO it's too soon to answer those questions. We may even have an increase in rates offered on the exchange next year, maybe the year after too. The ACA is going to take time. The good news here is that it's proof positive that your President is not in fact a socialist dictator. If he were he'd just force everyone that doesn't have the right coverage into the exchange and back that up with confiscations, jail terms and general dictatorish hassles.

[Warriorbird]

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Since that's what I've been saying since Obamacare was passed yes, that's a very reasonable take on my position.

Your position involves complaining that ACA isn't liberal enough while a member of a party that would've never supported a better version.