More Obamacare fuckups

[Tgo01]

If insuring 9.5 million Americans with affordable healthcare is a disaster to you what would a tremendous success be?

cwolff even admitted that more than half of those people already had insurance. You two really need to discuss your talking points before posting.

[cwolff]

That is quite possibly the stupidest goal of any goal ever created in the history of mankind and the history of any intelligent or even semi intelligent life form in the entire universe. I'm not even resorting to hyperbole!

Seriously. "Hey let's pass a healthcare law to get these uninsured people insured!"

"Brilliant! But hey let's make a goal to just get ANYONE enrolled in healthcare under this new law, even people who already had health insurance or people who lost their insurance due to this law then were forced to use our website to get health insurance!"

"YES! YES! DO IT! DO IT!"

And the sheeple tout around this goal like good little lambs. Or sheep. Lamb sheep.

It's becoming painfully obvious that you don't actually know what you're talking about. In that world I can understand your outrage. I think if you took some time to understand the whole thing you'd find that your hyperbole is unwarranted.

Ninja, 4.5 million previously uninsured are on state medicaid. I don't know if they were pushed there like you say, but they are on medicaid now. 6+ million enrolled through the exchanges of which 1/3 were previously uninsured. Less than 1 million are uninsured because they're old policy was cancelled and they didn't replace it. Overall the share of adults up to age 65 without insurance has declined from 20.9% last fall to 16.6%.

[cwolff]

cwolff even admitted that more than half of those people already had insurance. You two really need to discuss your talking points before posting.

9.5 is the number of previously uninsured that are now covered. Just read TG. Fucking read and digest the numbers. Then you can bitch and moan but do it from an educated position.

[Atlanteax]

Where is this source of 9.5 million?

I saw 9 referenced...

• About 9 million people have bought health plans directly from insurers, instead of using the marketplaces, Rand found. The vast majority of these people were previously insured.

But they (generally) were not uninsured.

If 9.5 million uninsured are now insured ... why is that # not posted all over the place, vs trying to trump up a 6 million figure that is actually 1 - 1.5? (1/3 of 6 minus the 0.5 - 1 that lost coverage)

[cwolff]

The link is in the post. Go read it. You keep trying to pick a fight over this, just read the god damn article(s), digest the information then craft a response.

[Tgo01]

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...,5472960.story

At least 4.5 million previously uninsured adults have signed up for state Medicaid programs

An additional 3 million young adults have gained coverage in recent years through a provision of the law that enables dependent children to remain on their parents' health plans until they turn 26

Fewer than a million people who had health plans in 2013 are now uninsured because their plans were canceled for not meeting new standards set by the law

So...9.5 million supposedly previously uninsured people gained healthcare coverage since the Obamacare roll out, 4.5 million of which received Medicaid, 3 million of which stayed on their parent's plans, if we minus the 1 million who lost coverage due to Obamacare we're at 1 million new adults paying for their own healthcare plans since this law was passed, most of whom I'm willing to bet are elderly or very sick people.

Yup, this law sure is gonna bring down them costs! It's like you guys aren't even trying to understand the supposed purpose of this law.

Oh yeah I almost forgot...no one knows how many of these people are actually paying their premiums either.

[NinjasLeadTheWay]

The link is in the post. Go read it. You keep trying to pick a fight over this, just read the god damn article(s), digest the information then craft a response.

There is nothing to digest. It's the LA Times. It might as well be a newspaper in Russia based on the slewwy slanty bullshit they put up every day. That's like me referencing Fox News to counter your posts. I know well enough not to do it because it has zero credibility.

[Tgo01]

I wonder; does this 9.5 million figure include people who are now on Medicare that weren't before? I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it does.

[Wrathbringer]

Just saw your new avatar, nltw. That's a nice shot of Uncle Sam. You got his good side.

[cwolff]

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...,5472960.story

At least 4.5 million previously uninsured adults have signed up for state Medicaid programs

An additional 3 million young adults have gained coverage in recent years through a provision of the law that enables dependent children to remain on their parents' health plans until they turn 26

Fewer than a million people who had health plans in 2013 are now uninsured because their plans were canceled for not meeting new standards set by the law

So...9.5 million supposedly previously uninsured people gained healthcare coverage since the Obamacare roll out, 4.5 million of which received Medicaid, 3 million of which stayed on their parent's plans, if we minus the 1 million who lost coverage due to Obamacare we're at 1 million new adults paying for their own healthcare plans since this law was passed, most of whom I'm willing to bet are elderly or very sick people.

Yup, this law sure is gonna bring down them costs! It's like you guys aren't even trying to understand the supposed purpose of this law.

Oh yeah I almost forgot...no one knows how many of these people are actually paying their premiums either.

What's not to understand? Only you believe the ACA is designed to cure all our health care issues in it's first year.

There is nothing to digest. It's the LA Times. It might as well be a newspaper in Russia based on the slewwy slanty bullshit they put up every day. That's like me referencing Fox News to counter your posts. I know well enough not to do it because it has zero credibility.

Then go to the source material like Kinsey and Co. surveys and the Rand corporation. The LA times isn't making this shit up, they're just reporting on it.