Quote Originally Posted by cwolff View Post
You're looking at it wrong...of course. It's indisputable that we'd be better off if everyone were insured. Why do you even fight this fight. Less write offs for big corporations, less bankruptcy, better credit in the population, better preventive care. The list goes on and on. You may disagree with ACA but you can't be against each person carrying insurance.

Read this again. Not everyone's saying that this directly affects premiums.
I am all for each person having insurance. But it's THEIR responsibility, not mine. Why is it my responsibility to make sure that Jane gets free birth control? Or Jerry can try to jump his skateboard (at age 27) down 13 flights of stairs? These are choices they are making, not me. There is no sane reason why I should have to pay for them to do these things. The only reason anyone ever comes up with is Moral Obligations. Why is it a Moral obligation for me to have to pay for it, and not a moral obligation for them to not fucking do it?

Answer me that, why is it Morally right to require me to pay for a woman's birth control, but it is NOT morally right for me to say she just shouldn't be fucking people without a condom? Or better yet, wait till she is ready to have a kid? Isn't she CHOOSING to have unprotected, or hell, protected sex?

Yes, there are times and places were people don't choose certain things. No one, generally, chooses to be struck by a car while crossing the street. Nor chooses to get cancer (unless they did something to cause it.. yeah that's you you smokers).

Bankruptcy for healthcare is mostly people that HAVE healthcare. people that are uninsured don't normally bother. They just take the credit rating hit for 7 years and keep going about their life.

Let me ask you this.. since it's obvious so far that the majority of people signing up are getting nearly free healthcare. Who is paying for it?