More Obamacare fuckups

[Thondalar]

It's really a well thought out plan. It benefits everyone. It helps the lower income population. It promotes a healthier nation over all. We all already pay for healthcare in one form or another. The ACA equalizes it. If you don't want in your fine is deducted from the taxes you already pay. If you can't pay the fine you will not go to jail over it. It will bring down healthcare costs for everyone. If you want to pay more for better healthcare you can.

Let's all take a minute to digest this. Take your time.

[Thondalar]

Remember the Patriot Act? And Iraq? And Homeland Security? Of course you don't.

Of course the Dems loved the Patriot Act, it stomps a mud hole in the Constitution and walks it dry...Homeland Security being a by-product of that, they're all for it...Iraq, well, hell...apparently even the anti-war party likes war sometimes.

[Warriorbird]

Of course the Dems loved the Patriot Act, it stomps a mud hole in the Constitution and walks it dry...Homeland Security being a by-product of that, they're all for it...Iraq, well, hell...apparently even the anti-war party likes war sometimes.

Fascinating how you can even blame stuff they didn't draft on the Democrats. With that said, might not some Republicans have liked Republican drafted ideas? I mean, might not at the least Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich like it?

But nope. Anything Obama proposed is immediately the greatest Socialist evil evar.

[Thondalar]

Fascinating how you can even blame stuff they didn't draft on the Democrats. With that said, might not some Republicans have liked Republican drafted ideas? I mean, might not at the least Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich like it?

But nope. Anything Obama proposed is immediately the greatest Socialist evil evar.

What? I've said from the day it passed that the Patriot Act was the beginning of the end. It's absolutely terrible. All I said was I can see a lot of Dems agreeing with it.

As to your Romney and Gingrich references, I can only assume you're meaning ACA, which as I've said before...if it was simply that, it would have easily passed....what passed is not at all simply that, it's WAY more complicated, unnecessarily so, to the point that even the people who wrote it don't know what the fuck it says, and it's outcome is shady at best...it can't even get off the ground it's so terrible, and if it survives to full fruition...I don't even believe in God, but it might make me pray.

[Warriorbird]

What? I've said from the day it passed that the Patriot Act was the beginning of the end. It's absolutely terrible. All I said was I can see a lot of Dems agreeing with it.

As to your Romney and Gingrich references, I can only assume you're meaning ACA, which as I've said before...if it was simply that, it would have easily passed....what passed is not at all simply that, it's WAY more complicated, unnecessarily so, to the point that even the people who wrote it don't know what the fuck it says, and it's outcome is shady at best...it can't even get off the ground it's so terrible, and if it survives to full fruition...I don't even believe in God, but it might make me pray.

You're still a naive idiot if you really believe that. The sad bit is Obama once thought the same.

[Jarvan]

You're still a naive idiot if you really believe that. The sad bit is Obama once thought the same.

Which part.. this one?

what passed is not at all simply that, it's WAY more complicated, unnecessarily so, to the point that even the people who wrote it don't know what the fuck it says, and it's outcome is shady at best...it can't even get off the ground it's so terrible, and if it survives to full fruition...I don't even believe in God, but it might make me pray.

Yeah, I agree with you.

[Warriorbird]

It's definitely something when people don't understand the legislative branch.

[Thondalar]

You're still a naive idiot if you really believe that. The sad bit is Obama once thought the same.

Obama once thought it was a terribly written piece of legislation that was doomed to failure? What changed?

[Warriorbird]

Obama once thought it was a terribly written piece of legislation that was doomed to failure? What changed?

Reading comprehension is a thing. Obama once thought that miraculously the Republican Party would work with him. Your mythical theories that if the bill was just one way the Republicans would vote for it. It's likely one of the biggest downfalls of his Presidency.

[Parkbandit]

It's really a well thought out plan. It benefits everyone. It helps the lower income population. It promotes a healthier nation over all. We all already pay for healthcare in one form or another. The ACA equalizes it. If you don't want in your fine is deducted from the taxes you already pay. If you can't pay the fine you will not go to jail over it. It will bring down healthcare costs for everyone. If you want to pay more for better healthcare you can.

If there is one thing most intelligent people can agree upon, is that the ACA is an abysmal piece of legislation that has very little chance to actually produce the effects it supposedly sought out to do... lower healthcare costs.