Wow. Did he actually say that?Originally Posted by zhelas
Black Mamba
Wow. Did he actually say that?
Sounds like something a 6 year old would say. "But I'm more popular than that doodie head is!"
Angry Combat Veteran
Who fucking wrote this bill?!
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it." - Thomas Paine.
Lightning has killed more Americans in the last forty years than terrorism.
Princess Rainbow Kiss Mc'unicorn
Honestly, you are NO more doomed under an HSA then you are under a bronze or Silver plan from Obamacare. Infact, you are much worse off, since those don't GIVE an HSA.
So if an HSA damages the rest of the industry, then what does the Bronze and silver plans do under Obamacare? Since they don't even offer a tax free way to save money towards future medical expenses.
This space for sale.
(When you can't answer a question for fear of making you or your savior look bad)
He immediately preceded that comment by saying "There is no question that the dysfunction in Washington ... is taking its toll on everyone" and followed it by saying "That's not satisfactory for us." I don't know what you people want from the man.
Hasta pronto, porque la vida no termina aqui...
America, stop pushing. I know what I'm doing.
General council to MAN HATERS
Even for a catastrophic injury?
Angry Combat Veteran
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it." - Thomas Paine.
Lightning has killed more Americans in the last forty years than terrorism.
President Barack Obama on Thursday asked health insurance companies to allow individuals whose current plans have been canceled due to the Affordable Care Act to renew them for a year.
A one year delay huh...gee that sure sounds familiar.
Senior Member
Uh I haven't kept up with this entire thread, but HSA's doom nothing, except rampant medical cost inflation, which we sorta want to doom.
HSAs fix the moral hazard problem of the third party payment system which, more than anything else, reduces normal market price signals and is to blame for the high rate of medical cost inflation. It doesn't fix the problem entirely, but it is better than anything else we currently have.
Someone with a catastrophic injury does fine under an HSA, they're always paired with high deductible health insurance accounts (by law). Which actually tend to offer better benefits once that deductible is reached. So if you get impaled by a fence post and have $100,000 in medical bills you're as fine under an HSA as you'd be under anything else.
The whole overall goal behind an HSA is to get the patient involved in more of his or her own healthcare spending decisions for mundane planned smaller expenses, incentivizing them to reduce unnecessary consumption or shop around on price when possible. And if you're healthy for a number of years you can bank that for later.
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I find it politically convenient considering he is trying to get past the next elections. I wonder, sometime, if Obama has ever had an apolitical thought.
I would ask the progressives out there how they feel about a chief executive who seems to think he can make laws, edit laws, and waive laws from the executive branch without the participation of the legislative branch. As much as you love Obama and would carry his water to Nepal and back, you must realize that he will not always be president and the odds are 99.99% that in your lifetime you will have a president you disagree with and do you think it is wise to be establishing this sort of executive power? Think about it.
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