Dumb things conservatives say:

[Gelston]

I don't see any more potential for exploitation then what occurs right now. You mention needing money for election campaigns, but the way I mention has less elections for an individual. Sure, people will become corrupted, but they won't be there as long as they are now.

[Latrinsorm]

And that's basically what it boils down to. I prefer government by the people; others prefer to support the New Monarchy.

I thought we already won this war?

Every politician can lose an election, but (usually) only when someone runs against them. If you find a particular politician so distasteful, beat them. If you can't, support someone who's better. Who's stopping you... except you?

[Warriorbird]

I don't see any more potential for exploitation then what occurs right now. You mention needing money for election campaigns, but the way I mention has less elections for an individual. Sure, people will become corrupted, but they won't be there as long as they are now.

Voting someone out loses all meaning. You could have an unbroken chain of quickly manipulated candidates. You gain, effectively, Tammany Hall 2 in that scenario. It's a disaster. What's obligating these people to serve the public interests or even be good at their jobs?

They don't have to care one bit for the voters any more.

[Gelston]

Voting someone out loses all meaning. You could have an unbroken chain of quickly manipulated candidates. You gain, effectively, Tammany Hall 2 in that scenario. It's a disaster. What's obligating these people to serve the public interests or even be good at their jobs?

They don't have to care one bit for the voters any more.

Voting someone out sure does have meaning, they don't come back for another five years, not to mention impeachment proceedings do exist for Senators. A President doesn't have to care about voters after his reelection does he?

Obviously if the thing I said were to actually take effect (which it never will, until I become Emperor of Earth), I'd expect more safeguards, especially a way for the state to initiate recalls of Senators and the lottery-drawn members of the House.

[Methais]

It's called the Constitution, maybe you've heard of it? And it's perfect exactly the way it was written.Thomas Jefferson, John Jay, John Adams...

Except at the time of its writing, Senators weren't elected.

[Methais]

I'm still not getting how more easily influenced politicians is a good thing. It becomes puppet of the year.

Yes let's give them more power. I"m sure that will go well.

[Warriorbird]

Yes let's give them more power. I"m sure that will go well.

Think about who less power is giving power to.

[Methais]

Think about who less power is giving power to.

In a perfect world, campaign contributions would be limited to like $500 per donor or some small amount like that and require every dollar donated be documented. Then how do you get in a politician's pocket?

[Atlanteax]

I think we'd be better off is for every state, something like Arnold Schwarzenegger once tried to do for California, is to have a non-partisan panel of retired judges draw up district lines, for every state, and essentially end gerrymandering.

(on that note, the effort was defeated in California by Pelosi)

[Latrinsorm]

require every dollar donated be documented.

I can help you with that...

Except at the time of its writing, Senators weren't elected.

Irregardless.