More Obamacare fuckups

[Parkbandit]

This all seems very convenient, even down to this being blamed on Republicans.

I guess the statute of limitations has run out on blaming Bush.

[tyrant-201]

I guess the statute of limitations has run out on blaming Bush.

I blame the government. It's all-encompassing.

[Parkbandit]

What flavor kool-aid are they serving you, anyways? Is it any good?

Irony.

[Keller]

Two things.

I never said the political pressure wasn't warranted. I think a full investigation is required. I think we need as much information as we can get about what occurred.

I never said people in the service centers weren't improperly targeting political groups applying for tax-exempt status. I'll make that determination once I know the information that is being gathered.

What I did say is that the political pressure put on the IRS has caused many talented people to leave, which has caused the massive regulatory push within the IRS to stall, which has caused a delay in the employer mandate because companies don't know how they are supposed to comply with the mandate because the regulations and forms are not out. It's sort of like asking people to file their individual income taxes without Form 1040 and the accompanying instructions. It would be a disaster.

Now, PB, you can continue your schtick of beating your chest and acting like you know the first thing about what you're talking about. Or, and I hope you do this for the sake of not looking more foolish, you can realize you're wrong and go grab a beer and enjoy the holiday weekend.

Your call man.

[Parkbandit]

Two things.

I never said the political pressure wasn't warranted. I think a full investigation is required. I think we need as much information as we can get about what occurred.

I never said people in the service centers weren't improperly targeting political groups applying for tax-exempt status. I'll make that determination once I know the information that is being gathered.

What I did say is that the political pressure put on the IRS has caused many talented people to leave, which has caused the massive regulatory push within the IRS to stall, which has caused a delay in the employer mandate because companies don't know how they are supposed to comply with the mandate because the regulations and forms are not out. It's sort of like asking people to file their individual income taxes without Form 1040 and the accompanying instructions. It would be a disaster.

Now, PB, you can continue your schtick of beating your chest and acting like you know the first thing about what you're talking about. Or, and I hope you do this for the sake of not looking more foolish, you can realize you're wrong and go grab a beer and enjoy the holiday weekend.

Your call man.

You initially blamed the GOP this... which was hilarious.

Let me ask you this:

Is your belief that this suspension of key aspects of Obamacare being delayed until January 2015 has nothing to do with the 2014 midterm elections and/or the negative effects this law will have on the economy and unemployment?

[Keller]

You initially blamed the GOP this... which was hilarious.

I know you don't like to read the words that are written, but instead choose to read the words you would like to have been written, but I didn't blame this on the GOP.

I blamed this on regulatory shortfalls as a result of the people leading the regulatory effort having resigned. I understand you'll say "but you said they quit because of political pressure drummed up by the GOP!" That is a fact, both in the sense that I said it and in the sense that that is why those people resigned. If you think that is "blame," then I guess you blame the GOP, too.

[Keller]

Is your belief that this suspension of key aspects of Obamacare being delayed until January 2015 has nothing to do with the 2014 midterm elections and/or the negative effects this law will have on the economy and unemployment?

It has a lot to do with the elections. If the employer mandate were implemented without regulatory guidance or forms, it would be a clusterfuck of epic proportions.

I don't mind you staying after class for extra questions, but if you'd pay attention during the lecture you'd have know that.

[Warriorbird]

I know you don't like to read the words that are written, but instead choose to read the words you would like to have been written, but I didn't blame this on the GOP.

I blamed this on regulatory shortfalls as a result of the people leading the regulatory effort having resigned. I understand you'll say "but you said they quit because of political pressure drummed up by the GOP!" That is a fact, both in the sense that I said it and in the sense that that is why those people resigned. If you think that is "blame," then I guess you blame the GOP, too.

Sometimes I really enjoy the politics folder.

[Parkbandit]

I know you don't like to read the words that are written, but instead choose to read the words you would like to have been written, but I didn't blame this on the GOP.

I blamed this on regulatory shortfalls as a result of the people leading the regulatory effort having resigned. I understand you'll say "but you said they quit because of political pressure drummed up by the GOP!" That is a fact, both in the sense that I said it and in the sense that that is why those people resigned. If you think that is "blame," then I guess you blame the GOP, too.

I don't think "because of political pressure drummed up by the GOP" means what you think it means. It's placing blame squarely on one party.

There is only one place to blame the issues that the IRS is having.. it's with the IRS.

[Back]

So BriWi just told me that the president announced a one year delay in requiring about 4% of small businesses to provide health insurance.

Who is upset by this again?