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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkbandit View Post
    Saudi/Iran seem to be big winners in this deal as well... but I didn't hear anything special about the ex Soviet states being "emboldened" really. That's just all talk.

    Ukraine is the biggest loser right now, given that it's in their country all the destruction is happening in.

    Russia also lost with it's false perception of being a world power prior to them getting their asses kicked.

    Europe lost because they put all their eggs in the Russian energy basket and it's going to bite them in the ass real hard this winter.
    Ukraine will come out stronger, with renewed Western ties. Russia just looks like a bitch. I mean, I've always said they were, I just didn't realize how terrible they were at militarying.
    Last edited by Gelston; 09-15-2022 at 08:33 AM.
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