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Wish we could figure this out. Wish we could cast off this 2 party system how political parties stifle thought and logic and turn us against each other. See Geo. Washington opinion on political party.

Need to come up with wholesale solution, need prevention and response. Dems need to realize getting rid of guns and demonizing gun owners is infeasible barring constitutional amendment revoking the second amendment. Fund SROs or vets - best practices/data show that single SRO not enough to fight a shooter . Keep in mind how all of these events end - don't fall into fallacy of "more guns=more carnage". Fund school infrastructure to prevent/mitigate. I have seen tech like bulletproof curtains etc.

Republican need to realize 2ad is not a suicide pact and can have reasonable restrictions like 1ad (time/place) restrictions. Need to keep these things out of the hands of mentally ill. Red flag laws allowing for constitutional due process hearings to prevent wrongful taking. Social media/school flagging for suicidal/homicidal ideation. Mental screening for purchase, excluding ownership from mentally ill conforms with 2ad because those with mental illness were historically and currently excluded from "militia" service. Cannot totally discount preventative measures in favor of SROs unless we go to Israeli style schools, which I think is universally disfavored.

Outside of that, need cultural change. How can we move away from violence centered culture? Need more grace, treat people with dignity and respect, shun culture of "owning libs/republitards", support children/youth programs, parenting programs.

Wonder if anyone here will agree with me, I have a feeling not! If we can't find common ground and figure something out within our legal/constitutional system, might as well just bag it, complain on social media, and send thoughts and prayers per usual...

(Btw I am not against praying, because I would hope those that do can open their hearts to take action to their deities calling for peace since nearly every religion compels peace and cooperation)
Israel has the right and most effective approach. They had a massive school shooting nearly 50 years ago, they live in a war zone. They put armed guards at schools, like really armed, not just a beat cop with a sidearm, we are talking like European airport security armed guards. They armored schools with strong doors, restricted access and so on. They then offered training to staff who volunteered in order so that they could be armed, trained and equipped to defend kids in the case of attack. They haven't had a school shooting since. End "Gun Free Zones"

The rest of the crap you outlined is a suicide pact of restrictions rife with abuse that will get even more people killed and has already with red flag laws and so on. Acquiescence, laws and disarmament doesn't and hasn't worked even in countries where it's basically impossible to own a gun. Vigilance, responsibility and emotional strength in the never ending battle against evil has proven the only effective means of prevention/deterrence. To say otherwise is to ignore the facts yet here we are again with people arguing that some law will make up for their lack of moral courage and emotional maturity.

The only thing that stops a bad guy from committing violence is a good guy willing to commit violence on behalf of the innocent and if needs be lay down his life in the defense of others. Nothing else has ever protected people and society effectively and it's time we as a society re-learn that.