More Obamacare fuckups

[Laviticas]

There's lines a man just does not cross, dressing up as a vagina is one of those lines!

[Laviticas]

And in the right corner, The Giant Vagina.

Leeets get reaaaady to ruuuumble!

[Thondalar]

Along with the "let civilization collapse" Depression theory.

Well yes, in a sense. The unfortunate reality(inconvenient truth?) is that our civilization has been building up to that very thing for generations now...you can't honestly look at the almost 18 TRILLION DOLLAR debt and be like "oh, it's a percentage of GDP, we're fine"...I've previously linked visual references to what 18 trillion dollars actually looks like, IRL...it's somewhat akin to a person standing next to a nuclear-class aircraft carrier...except instead of a ship it's just piles of money. Pallets of money. Stacked a hundred feet high and a thousand feet deep. All 100's.

"Let civilization collapse" is going to be what it becomes, because, in our ignorance, we've managed to find ways to manage lesser failures, in spite of the whole...the principle still exists, and always will. It always has.

[Warriorbird]

Well yes, in a sense. The unfortunate reality(inconvenient truth?) is that our civilization has been building up to that very thing for generations now...you can't honestly look at the almost 18 TRILLION DOLLAR deficit and be like "oh, it's a percentage of GDP, we're fine"...I've previously linked visual references to what 18 trillion dollars actually looks like, IRL...it's somewhat akin to a person standing next to a nuclear-class aircraft carrier...except instead of a ship it's just piles of money. Pallets of money. Stacked a hundred feet high and a thousand feet deep. All 100's.

"Let civilization collapse" is going to be what it becomes, because, in our ignorance, we've managed to find ways to manage lesser failures, in spite of the whole...the principle still exists, and always will. It always has.

You're fighting the very faith that keeps us going. The actual thing that backs our dollar. American exceptionalism, which I actually believe in. I don't believe you'll win your fight. I certainly see what you're after. I just don't agree that destroying us is necessary. I think modern America has been better than you think it has.

it was fucking joke, just like the political pontificating on PC, one giant joke.

I wasn't even making fun of women, it was poking fun retarded dude that actually wore the vagina uniform. Your killing me dude, my fucking ribs hurt from laughing so hard, oh shit.

Seemed more like you were part of it. Still does. Never said you were making fun of women though.

[Parkbandit]

Because rather than bail them out we should let our entire financial system collapse. Eh.

If this were your alternate universe I wouldn't have talked about how we needed Glass-Stegall back for years and that the Republican and Democratic Parties both messed up. But yeah.

The Subprime Mortgage crisis is just another example of how our government set out with the best of intentions (getting more people into their own homes) and fucked around with the most basic safeguards (Banks will not give loans to people that can't afford to pay them back) until it created an environment that caused the financial collapse. This wasn't "both" parties as you try to spin it.. this was the Democrat party, plain and simple.

[Warriorbird]

The Subprime Mortgage crisis is just another example of how our government set out with the best of intentions (getting more people into their own homes) and fucked around with the most basic safeguards (Banks will not give loans to people that can't afford to pay them back) until it created an environment that caused the financial collapse. This wasn't "both" parties as you try to spin it.. this was the Democrat party, plain and simple.

I figured on you just targeting people but it was just the Democratic Party (while carefully skirting all Republican involvement, bank involvement, and citizen involvement and ignoring numerous events involved). I was wrong about you. I am not terribly surprised though.

Banks, Republicans, Democrats, and the public were involved. I can say it. Why can't you? That's right.

It is almost wantonly foolish to neglect the role of Glass-Steagall's removal.

Banks will most certainly give loans to people who won't pay them back even without guarantees. Look at our current automotive loan bubble for an example.

This was the first thing I saw when I logged in and I thought it was worded beautifully. I agree with you but I think there is something to be said for the way we export our own brand of globalization.

Countries who emulate American exceptionalism successfully, especially when building upon foreign investments, can be both flattering and terrifying, forcing us to look in the collective corporate mirror. Right now Im thinking of Chinas steel market and the current Chinese hydrotechnology projects in Nepal. Both examples could be described as reclusive corporate entitlement. The projects in Nepal bring to mind Monsanto with the rainforests. This example especially, speaks to the deeper point of corruption which some people in this thread are referencing.

I thought Parkbandit made this post for a second. In retrospect that is kind of hilarious. The question is whether we tap our collective potential strength or we smash it when we see ourselves in the mirror. I think we have to tap it. We certainly do self interested things that aren't good for other places though.

[Parkbandit]

I figured on you just targeting people but it was just the Democratic Party (while carefully skirting all Republican involvement, bank involvement, and citizen involvement and ignoring numerous events involved). I was wrong about you. I am not terribly surprised though.

Banks, Republicans, Democrats, and the public were involved. I can say it. Why can't you? That's right.

It is almost wantonly foolish to neglect the role of Glass-Steagall's removal.

Banks will most certainly give loans to people who won't pay them back even without guarantees. Look at our current automotive loan bubble for an example.

The banks are not in the business to lose money. It's really naive to believe that they would give loans to the degree they did with the mortgage crisis to people who they know can't pay them back without some safety net given to them by the government. The safety net in this case was Fanny and Freddie Mae.

I thought Parkbandit made this post for a second. In retrospect that is kind of hilarious. The question is whether we tap our collective potential strength or we smash it when we see ourselves in the mirror. I think we have to tap it. We certainly do self interested things that aren't good for other places though.

I find it hilarious that a "teacher" can't distinguish the word "Parkbandit" from the word "RojoDisco" even with 2 distinctly different avatars.

So, English and American History aren't the subjects you teach. Let's hope it's Basket Weaving or Knitting 101... for our children's sake.

[Warriorbird]

The banks are not in the business to lose money. It's really naive to believe that they would give loans to the degree they did with the mortgage crisis to people who they know can't pay them back without some safety net given to them by the government. The safety net in this case was Fanny and Freddie Mae.




I find it hilarious that a "teacher" can't distinguish the word "Parkbandit" from the word "RojoDisco" even with 2 distinctly different avatars.

So, English and American History aren't the subjects you teach. Let's hope it's Basket Weaving or Knitting 101... for our children's sake.

You just need some people greedy enough to run up share prices without concern for the future, thanks to investment banks no longer being divided from banks that do lending.

It's happening again right now without guarantees in auto loans like I already said. You're also carefully avoiding blaming 3/4 of the participants. You're that partisan.

My avatars are off and I'd just woken up. I was amused given your rabid hatred for her. Your response? Petulance of course. Is that how you raised your children?

[Parkbandit]

You just need some people greedy enough to run up share prices without concern for the future, thanks to investment banks no longer being divided from banks that do lending.

It's happening again right now without guarantees in auto loans like I already said. You're also carefully avoiding blaming 3/4 of the participants. You're that partisan.

Who did I miss? Here's exactly what I wrote previously. I know you are slow, er I mean you just woke up.. but here, I'll make it easier for you:

I have no problem with that.. the banks clearly gave the loans to people who couldn't afford them.. and the people knew they would be fucked (or should have known) when the balloon hit..

Wow.. looks like I blamed the banks, the people and the government. Who am I missing for the 4th? Let me guess... THE EVIL CORPORATIONS!?

My avatars are off and I'd just woken up. I was amused given your rabid hatred for her. Your response? Petulance of course. Is that how you raised your children?

Rabid hatred for Rojo? Haha, not even. You really should stop projecting your own emotions onto other people. I don't have rabid hatred for people I actually know.. let alone an anonymous individual on a text based roleplaying game's forum.

And yes.. I raised my children to be petulant. You guessed it. How did you raise your children? Oh wait.. your wife got smart and kicked you to the curb before you could. Good for her.

[Warriorbird]

Who did I miss? Here's exactly what I wrote previously. I know you are slow, er I mean you just woke up.. but here, I'll make it easier for you:



Wow.. looks like I blamed the banks, the people and the government. Who am I missing for the 4th? Let me guess... THE EVIL CORPORATIONS!?



Rabid hatred for Rojo? Haha, not even. You really should stop projecting your own emotions onto other people. I don't have rabid hatred for people I actually know.. let alone an anonymous individual on a text based roleplaying game's forum.

And yes.. I raised my children to be petulant. You guessed it. How did you raise your children? Oh wait.. your wife got smart and kicked you to the curb before you could. Good for her.

It's entertaining when you make that minimized post and then make a OMG its all DEMOCRATS LET ME INCLUDE A VIDEO post. Sort of counteracts your point.

You blamed the banks, the people, and your definition of government only mysteriously includes the Democrats. I listed the Republicans too but you just can't accept any blame on them.

I'd think that one would have to have a fair amount of feeling to describe anybody as man hating. What would those feelings be?

Because the best defense to you being petulant when I said something inoffensive is to try to somehow mischaracterize my divorce. Stay classy.