Redistricting for Congressional Seats

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Originally Posted by Back

They aren't going to stop if the republicans don't as well. Make sense?

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Originally Posted by Back

Nice try but that's BS. The only reason they haven't been successful is because of the Republican filibuster.

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A) I literally just got finished saying they only introduced these pieces of legislation when they didn't control both houses, which means the filibuster doesn't even matter.
B) They could have passed it when they had a supermajority in the Senate in 2009, or when they had a supermajority in the Senate from 1975-1979, or when they had a supermajority from 1959-1969.
C) Democrats had plenty of chances to use the "nuclear option" to get rid of the filibuster altogether and ram through their legislation.

But, again, Democrats don't really want to lose their power to gerrymander the shit out states they control. And no House member is going to seriously consider getting rid of gerrymandering and risk losing their seat.

Why are you so dumb?

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Originally Posted by Back

If we went to a one-person one vote system Democrats would have the edge. That's why Republicans don't want to ban the gerrymander.

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And yet in California in 2024 Democrats received 60% of the total votes for House members yet won 83% of the seats.

In California in 2024 Democrats received 3% fewer votes compared to 2022 yet gained 3 seats.

You can keep making up shit all you want, but facts say you're wrong.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

A) I literally just got finished saying they only introduced these pieces of legislation when they didn't control both houses, which means the filibuster doesn't even matter.
B) They could have passed it when they had a supermajority in the Senate in 2009, or when they had a supermajority in the Senate from 1975-1979, or when they had a supermajority from 1959-1969.
C) Democrats had plenty of chances to use the "nuclear option" to get rid of the filibuster altogether and ram through their legislation.

But, again, Democrats don't really want to lose their power to gerrymander the shit out states they control. And no House member is going to seriously consider getting rid of gerrymandering and risk losing their seat.

Why are you so dumb?

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I think it's disingenuous and a feeble argument to suggest Democrats today don't really want what they say they want because of something Democrats did or did not do 50 years ago.

The fact remains in the past 8 years Democrats have attempted to ban gerrymandaring and have been stopped by Republicans.

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

And yet in California in 2024 Democrats received 60% of the total votes for House members yet won 83% of the seats.

In California in 2024 Democrats received 3% fewer votes compared to 2022 yet gained 3 seats.

You can keep making up shit all you want, but facts say you're wrong.

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You're not taking account the other 49 states. Nationwide Democrats would pick up seats while Republicans would lose them.

The United States has been majority Democrats since the 30s. The only reason Republicans win anything is due to the electoral college and gerrymandering.

The electoral college gives more weight to rural voters than urban and that's fucking bullshit. I would go so far as to say it's the reason our politics are so messed up. Unequal representation messes with the very foundation of democracy. Because of that things don't make any sense. The majority does not truly rule.

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Originally Posted by ChatGPT

The U.S. has been majority Democratic in identity and voting base for most of the last 90 years, especially:

From FDR (1932) through the 2000s in party ID

From 1992 onward in presidential popular vote


But due to:

Southern realignment

Gerrymandering

Rural overrepresentation

Electoral College structure


…Republicans have often won control of Congress and the presidency despite being the numerical minority.

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Originally Posted by Back

The United States has been majority Democrats since the 30s. The only reason Republicans win anything is due to the electoral college and gerrymandering.

The electoral college gives more weight to rural voters than urban and that's fucking bullshit. I would go so far as to say it's the reason our politics are so messed up. Unequal representation messes with the very foundation of democracy. Because of that things don't make any sense. The majority does not truly rule.

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lol

Not only did you misunderstand what ChatGPT said, but you’re also dumb.

We are a representative democracy, 20 million Democrats all voting for the same Senator means shit when it comes to people in Wyoming voting for who they want to represent them.

Also gerrymandering and the electoral college has nothing to do with how senators are voted into office, so how do you explain Republicans winning the Senate over and over again?

In Maryland in 2024 Democrats received 63% of the House votes yet won 88% of the House seats.

Back: but getting ride of the gerrymander would benefit Democrats and only Republicans gerrymander!!

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Originally Posted by Tgo01

lol

Not only did you misunderstand what ChatGPT said, but you’re also dumb.

We are a representative democracy, 20 million Democrats all voting for the same Senator means shit when it comes to people in Wyoming voting for who they want to represent them.

Also gerrymandering and the electoral college has nothing to do with how senators are voted into office, so how do you explain Republicans winning the Senate over and over again?

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I'm glad you brought that up because of the Senate it is another issue. California has the same power in the Senate as Kansas despite vastly different populations and economies. Not saying anything bad about Kansas... Or any other less populated lower GDP States.

it's true that we don't live in a true democracy because if we did the Republicans wouldn't have nearly as much power.

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Originally Posted by Back

The United States has been majority Democrats since the 30s. The only reason Republicans win anything is due to the electoral college and gerrymandering.

The electoral college gives more weight to rural voters than urban and that's fucking bullshit. I would go so far as to say it's the reason our politics are so messed up. Unequal representation messes with the very foundation of democracy. Because of that things don't make any sense. The majority does not truly rule.

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"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote" -Benjamin Franklin