Wealth redistribution is where your welfare checks are coming from.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
You should consider getting a job.
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Wealth redistribution is where your welfare checks are coming from.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
You should consider getting a job.
30% of all homeless people in the US live in California and that number continues to increase:
https://www.ppic.org/blog/homeless-populations-are-rising-around-california/#:~:text=As%20of%202022%2C%2030%25%20of,of%20the%2 0nation's%20homeless%20population.
California is the biggest welfare state BY A HUGE AMMOUNT:
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/no...ing-2017-11-28
Population in California continues to decline, and the reasons are not because of birth rates but rather a mass exodus:
https://calmatters.org/newsletters/w...xodus-housing/
I encourage you Seran to really ask yourself why that is happening. The next question to ask is if these economic policies are not working for the state of California, why in the world would we want that for the United States as a whole?
Great weather.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Though really, weather conducive to street life is a component, it's largely due to the abundance of space, lax policing in the major metropolitan areas, massive outreach programs that bring food and medicine to your tent, not to mention fairly generous Cal Works and CalFresh programs that make finding food even easier which is often sold for drugs and alcohol.
Great weather is certainly part of the equation as well as the other things you mentioned & more. You think those Silicon Valley folks pay for all that? Perhaps they fund a small portion of it. The real tax burden rests on those just over the poverty line to the living comfortably category. Middle class are the backbone of America and an absolute necessity for stability. Those people, and most especially small business owners in this group who get further taxed / regulated to death / shut down by Covid lockdowns / victims of theft & lawlessness / etc., have been raped & pillaged to the point it’s no longer sustainable to continue living there. Thus I say California is starting to resemble a society of feudalism with a few nobles & a lot of serfs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
It’s a shame too, because California is such a beautiful place with a vast amount of industry & natural resources. There is no reason for it to be that way.
I think, it’s the main part, if you put New York weather there, there would be a mass exodus of homeless to a warmer place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Whoooa there, I think you're pretty damn off base with who you think pays the majority of taxes in California. The state has a largely progressive tax system, as a result more than 50% of the income taxes in the state of California comes from those earning more than 500k, 40% alone is from personal income taxes on earnings over $1M. People making over 500k a year being described as just 'living comfortably' naww. Only 8-9% of the state income taxes come from people making between 50-100k and less than 50k earnings contribute just 2%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
The concentration of wealth in the United States is top heavy due to massively regressive tax changes in this country. California has a progressive tax structure and is one of the largest economies in the world solely as a result of it's policies, resources, beauty and governance.
You are not factoring in exemptions. The higher up in income you go, the more that income earner will pay and lobby for creative accounting exemptions. Progressive taxation is a lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
The concentration of wealth will always gravitate to be top heavy. The poor and lower middle class receive more in government welfare / aide than they pay in taxes. That’s the way of the world, and it’s been that way since the dawn of civilization. What matters are policies and tax rates that encourage a good standard of living for the middle class.
You don’t have to believe me and I’m sure you won’t, but that part doesn’t matter... If high progressive taxation works so well, why is the state of California on the verge of bankruptcy & they have all the problems that we agreed they have? The elites are manipulating the poor to vote for their agenda, and they are not subjected to that progressive taxation & consequences of those policies like you think they are. You are being played.
Ehh…I’ll agree that if I was homeless (my absolute worst nightmare by the way) I’d much rather live in LA for the weather than NY. It’s tough to say how much of a factor that is, but it’s got to be a big one. Where it doesn’t hold water though is that NYC is having similar problems with huge spikes in homelessness & a mass exodus of the middle class too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
not that there is ever a good place to be homeless, but 10 years ago DFW wouldn't have been a bad place.. but since nobody can afford to live anywhere else, ya'll came here and nobody affording houses. You can still find some good deals on homes, but it does require a 2 hour commute to where your job is in most cases.
New York isn't as welcoming to the homeless as CA either. NY has been installing anti-comfort designs to benches and grates. Basically pointy shit that makes it uncomfortable to lie down on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Way back in the day, London started installing piss deflectors on the sides of buildings to prevent public pissing. They have been mostly removed but some still remain in place around the London bridge area.
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Originally Posted by Neveragain
If I were ever homeless I think I could find a pisser somewhere.. or at least not do it on a bridge. Playing loud music at night as been used as a tactic in some places i suppose.. Either way the piss reflection paint stuff was probably not from homeless folks just lazy drunks.. on my speculation.
I have no clue, I’m just mentioning weather, if I were homeless, SoCal, would be the ideal place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
The piss guards were 45 degree skirting, basically making the piss run down all over the pisser. They started removing them because it didn't seem to stop the pissers from pissing all over themselves anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Realk
The London bridge used to have low income block houses attached to it. It was the equivalent to New Yorks 5 points district in the 1800's.
That's nonsense about tax exemptions. The amount collected by the seat of California is reflective of tax write-offs and exemptions, the number still factor in and the poor people aren't paying the most as you claim. Simply put the state of California has a lot of bills. You claim they are almost bankrupt, really? That's a dumb claim the state of California could at any time issue debt if they needed to in the form of bondsQuote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
https://www.yahoo.com/news/free-spee...091950939.html
"Free speech or hate speech: Middleboro student sent home for second time may sue school"
"School staff pulled Morrison from class and sent him home in March when he wore a black T-shirt to class reading, "There are only two genders."
"Morrison covered part of the message on his T-shirt with white tape and wrote "censored," so the shirt said, "There are censored genders." The school sent him home again."
This is where we are as a country... utter insanity... Apparently saying "There are only two genders" is now "hate speech".
Have to love socialism/communism... not to mention the utter lack of rational thought.
And at the same time he needs to accept and deal with the gay pride flag, and other people’s views, but his view is considered hate speech. Fucking hilarious. Could he not just say, all these gay pride flags they got are offensive to me, remove them!Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
School board used the excuse that the LGBTQ+ community is a "protected class"... if that type of talk doesn't set off alarms, not sure what will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
"According to Whiting, the school said that the message on Morrison's T-shirt qualifies as bullying and harassment, and the staff told Morrison that his shirt was targeting a "protected class" of students in the school."
I moved from the Lake Highlands area to Far North Dallas 8 years ago. Even back then housing had insane demand. I found the right place at the right time, and was very lucky. Property values in my neighborhood have more than doubled since then. From my garage to my office in Plano / Frisco it’s under 20 minutes taking the tollway. I’m not moving again until I retire. There are tons of people at my work that commute 1-2 hours…eff that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Realk
Honestly, I’d prefer kids don’t have any political messages at all on their school attire but it’s not up to me. You have to go to private school if you want that which is prohibitively expensive these days. As such, the rules should be universally enforced. If a pride flag is ok, so too should be a Confederate flag. There is no such thing as hate speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
if you want to wear the pride flag, cool, you do you. If I want to wear there’s only two genders shirt, I expect the same treatment, if you can’t do that? Than neither should be allowed. Everything seems to be political these days, I guess people will be coming to school with nothing but a smile on! LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
True and good point. Actually I’m sure a smile could be made political.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
When I was a child and even through high school, I really didn’t give a fuck about politics. My motivation behind my preference and liking the idea of school uniforms is to keep the focus on education and avoid such unnecessary distractions. Our children are growing up in a much different world though. I’m just trying to raise my kids to have a good core value system and be tolerant of others.
There certainly is such a thing as hate speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
I should clarify. I mean that if it is not expressly & directly incite violence, I don’t think it should be labeled hate speech and be made illegal or censored. Too often these days do people label speech they simply disagree with or that is offensive in nature hate speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
We should wrap our little angels in Cellophane and bubble wrap and make them wear earplugs that intuitively block speech their parents or the child disagree with.
Better yet, lets just school our little retards, err i mean angels, from home and never let them meet their peers in person!
I don't disagree... but there are plenty of examples of actual hate speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Problem is: The left has diluted everything down with their "OMG U R RACIST!" or "OMG U R SEXIST!" or "OMG U R GENDERIST!" so things that are actually racist/sexist are just shrugged off as "there goes the unhinged left again"
Massachusetts law recognizes LGBT+ a protected class in discrimination, stop crying and educate yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
The fact that "There are only 2 genders" is seen as political at all + this whole gender debate in general being an actual thing just means we're doomed as a society.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
He should wear a rainbow LGBT shirt but still have the same message.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Throw in "I'm trans and there are only 2 genders." just for fun. The school won't know how to handle their own warped logic when they start crying about it. And since he says he's trans, he's now a protected class and they cant prove that he isn't.
Basic biology has become the forefront of political battles for the years to come!Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
I would fucking pay to see that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Just shut up you Pedo Nazi. We get it... you like diddling kids and don't want anything to stand in the way of it. Can only hope people around you are aware of your sick predilections.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
So who gets priority when a gay dude doesn't buy into gender ideology and says that there are only two genders?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
There are plenty of gay people out there who will tell you that LGB are all the letters and that the TQIA+ bullshit can go fuck itself.
Whoever is the smallest minority and has the greatest perceived victim status wins. You can never be woke enough to satisfy the hard left, and in the end they always end up cannibalizing their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Wearing a shirt that says "There are only 2 genders" is just stating a fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
If some mentally ill "protected class" person gets offended, they should be sent to a safe space room or go home.
Subjectivity isn't a fact and if that person identifies as something other than male or female, that shirt is in fact harassment. Harassment against a protected class. The school did the right thing under Massachusetts law.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
The Court is going to recognize both the school dress code against offensive material and state law, then tell the parents that they shouldn't use their middle school child as a billboard for their opinions.
Ok, but hear me out… Say you self identify as a genius but in reality your mental capacity is biologically the equivalent to a shit-slinging monkey. Is it considered harassment for us to call you a retard?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
It's not subjective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
It's science.
You are nothing but a science denier and a mental illness enabler.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
This is where I disagree with you. In 200 years, when that person is dead, and some scientists digs up their body, and do some scans/test, what gender will they find? Their biological gender. I don’t care what you identify as, doesn’t change the fact that there are indeed only two genders. People shouldn’t have to be forced to recognize you, as what you want to be recognized as. That’s it.
This gender shit has gone too far, and it just makes me facepalm regarding my party.
What you ID as, that’s your choice, if you wanna think you are a damn honey badger? Cool! Have fun, if you want to think you are some cisgender that is asexual and you think there are 917462 genders? Cool, want a cookie? You want to be referred to as they/them? That’s your problem, I don’t have to do what you want, and that’s MY right, I don’t give two shits about your feelings. No one cares, we only care when you try to force your views on others that follow basic god damn science, that there are only TWO genders.
Where does it end? I ID as your fucking god, if you don’t respect that, that’s harassment? That’s just ridiculous.
I actually do care about their feelings. I’ve witnessed people suffering for not knowing or being able to accept who they are as a person, and having a defeatist victim mentality that is preventing them from having any true joy in their lives. It must be awful to live that way. I sincerely hope they find inner peace and receive the spiritual & mental help that they need.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Agree with you on all the rest.
Let me clarify, if you are going to cause drama like this because of your feelings, I don’t care, for example this situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
https://www.foxnews.com/media/starbu...ered-let-go-me
Starbucks fires trans barista screaming at customer to 'get out' after being misgendered: 'Let go of me'
I don’t give a shit about your feelings regarding situations like this.
On top of that, does that kid’s feelings matter? The one that wore the two gender shirt?
If I walk up to someone and I refer to him as a male, and he says I ID as a female, that’s cool, his choice and I respect that, but if they cross the line and cause drama because of it, I don’t give two shits about your feelings anymore. I won’t cause a scene for example like I won’t say: I don’t care you ID as a female, I’ll call you what I want!
I agree with the schools decision. These are not adults and kids can be emotional terrorists. The parents should be ashamed for allowing their kid to wear that knowing it was an obvious attempt to belittle classmates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
This is where the mental illness starts and how you end up with school shootings.
No more opinions at schools! Won't someone think of the children?!
For the longest time I wondered why Democrats were so against school choice and home schooling. But Democrats have really opened my eyes these past few years. Slowly but surely public schools have been turning into breeding grounds for Democrat voters, much like colleges have been for decades now, but Democrats have really ripped the mask off these last few years and have accelerated the rate at which they want to brainwash kids and demand they conform to Democrat ideals.
No wonder they have been against school and home schooling. They want your children to be "educated" by their preferred sycophants.
Over the years I've posted stuff like this, and sure... it may make me seem a bit crazy...
But as I've said... it will come for everyone. It's not to "big" of a concept to happen... Bit by bit, logic is eroded... Bit by bit, societal norms are forcefully changed... Bit by bit, individual rights are stripped and marginalized.
The Leftists just figured out about 50 years ago they had to do it under the guise of "compassion"... They're still the same racist, subjugating, and Socialist Party they always were... they just changed their methodologies.
I referenced it once before years back, but if you understand UW and a few other concepts... it is easy to do what is being done to our country. We train our own people to do it to other countries all the time... why people think it can't happen here astounds me.
Keep thinking it's all a joke. Keep thinking there is no way it can go that far. Because it is...
How many genders are there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Untreated and/or undiagnosed mental illness is how you end up with school shootings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Hard to diagnose mental illness these days when just calling out its existence causes people to try to cancel you.
School bullying used to consist of things like people having their heads stuffed in toilets, being stuffed into lockers, flat out having the shit kicked out of them, etc., way before things like school shootings were a thing, way before Columbine, etc.
Pretty sure that actual physical bullying/assault is worse than a shirt that factually says "There are only 2 genders" because some mentally ill retard whose mental illness is literally celebrated now, got his feelings hurt over it due to extremely retarded brainwashing by leftist pedos.
And also because with home schooling, parents can see and hear everything that's happening in the classroom. Leftists despise parental supervision because it gets in the way of them grooming someone's kids.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
You're getting hung up on an opinion. If someone wants to call themselves a boy, girl, them, they, or whatever that is their business. Meanwhile, all those people who spend their waking moment trying to punish, vilify, intimidate, or harass others for it are the problem. Freedom of speech isn't a freedom to bully and harass others through your children's attire. More simply said, your freedom of speech isn't a right to force change on others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Hey Seran, how many genders are there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Wearing a shirt that says there are only two genders, isn’t harassment or bullying. That is a basic biological fact. Stating a basic fact we learn in school, is now considered harassment and bullying?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
What his shirt said is not harassment or bullying in any way. Did his shirt in any way force a change on anyone? Did his shirt target anyone? No it didn’t. The people who got “offended” forced change on that boy, and you are ok with that?
That’s like calling the police because some girl wore a “girl power” shirt and someone got offended because it was bullying boys. Or a shirt that says “blondes are the most fun!” That could offend people with other color hair.
It’s fucking ridiculous.
Seran doesn't actually know what he's talking about. He literally just mindlessly repeats what the narrative tells him to think and say, and his code never deviates from that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
It's what being an NPC is all about.
If his shirt targeted a group like “hey you trans retards, there are only two genders!” I would agree that his shit was offensive and targeting a group of specific people, but his shirt stated a simple biological fact, nothing more and nothing less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
This entire trans fucking movement is fucking stupid as fuck. They get offended about every god damn thing.
Can someone help me? What exactly does this trans movement want? Last I checked they have the same rights, privileges and everything else as every other citizen in this country. What exactly are they fighting for?
Sure it is, you're equipping your child with clothing that tramples over the rights of others to comfortably exist and go to school, your freedom of speech doesn't extend to using your child as a billboard. The Massachusetts law defines that shirt as inappropriate, the school's policy defines that shirt as inappropriate. Again, your rights don't extend to taking away the rights of other people, that concept should be damned easy to other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
The right to exist without harassment and bullying doesn't seem like a big ask to you, does it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
What rights? Be specific.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
And how do you know the dude's parents put him up to it? You do realize that people can have thoughts of their own right? Wait, nevermind, that's a concept you're not equipped to understand because you yourself are incapable of independent thought.
But anyway, what rights are being "taken away" over someone wearing a shirt that says "There are only 2 genders?"
Which specific rights are being taken away by a shirt?
How many genders are there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
So weird how you keep going out of your way to dodge this question.
You have no right to not be offended.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Too bad the current "movement" wants special privilege's, treatment, entitlements and to force others to conform to their beliefs and behaviors. You have no right to not be offended.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
The fundamental difference between us is you prioritize group / collective rights over individual rights, and are happy to give power to bureaucrats to make ethical decisions for the citizens. I believe individual rights should take priority over collectivism and that both bureaucrats & elected offi need strict oversight so they do not trample all over individual liberties.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
One would think that with Seran throwing such a big tantrum over "There are only 2 genders," he would enlighten us with his infinite wisdom and inform us of how many genders there are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Can't trust google, too many different results.
So again, Seran, how many genders are there?
Related: Have you noticed lately how they're slowly starting to call it "trans female" now instead of "trans woman?"
Whatever happened to "sex [female] and gender [woman] are different things!"?
You seem to be confused. There is no right to harass another student in school, it simply exists. The argument that freedom is defined as one student freely wearing clothing that spreads a bigoted message making others feel uncomfortable is false.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
What the far right wants you to believe happens at schools is great material for Southpark.
https://youtu.be/BaALvMmLDuI
You can't make anyone else feel anything. What someone says is on them, how you feel about it is on you. You have no right to not be offended.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
If there aren't just 2 genders, then how many are there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Your refusal to answer this question indicates that even you, as monumentally stupid as you are, know that there are only 2 genders and the rest is just political theater and mentally ill attention whores pretending to be victims.
You could easily shut down that argument by simply telling us how many genders there are if 2 isn't enough.
Exactly. That is their business. You want to identify as a cat, feel free.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Just don't expect me to enable your mental illness by forcing me to call you a cat or else I'm being mean.
The bold/underline part is really important.. since you have the freedom to call yourself a boy/girl/fluid/cat/etc... but it's not a right for you to force this upon others.Quote:
Meanwhile, all those people who spend their waking moment trying to punish, vilify, intimidate, or harass others for it are the problem. Freedom of speech isn't a freedom to bully and harass others through your children's attire. More simply said, your freedom of speech isn't a right to force change on others.
Bingo. Just as the person whose parents want their kid to be a right wing slogan have the right to believe what they want, but not to project their hate speech upon other's in a harassing, threatening, or intimidating manner via a disgusting shirt they forced upon their son.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
"There are only 2 genders" is a right wing slogan?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I guarantee you that even on the left, the majority will tell you that there are only 2 genders.
^ Do you think this is an incorrect statement?
If a boy wears to school a shirt that says “The Earth is round”, is that hate speech since it could be offensive to some idiotic Flat Earth cult science deniers? Because that’s the position you are taking here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Don’t we all have that right? Why isn’t there a huge Asian movement? Trans people have the same rights as everyone else, nothing is different for them. Welcome to school life! Where everyone gets bullied. Once again, they have all the same rights and privileges as everyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I’m all for trans people, don’t care about them, if they wanna be trans or whatever, good for them! Not my business. But I still can’t see where they don’t have the same rights and privileges as anyone else.
Last I checked, they have every single right and privilege afforded to every US citizen. They just want special treatment imo. I’m Half-Asian, I got bullied when I was growing up, I don’t remember seeing any “Slant eyes unite” movements.
Edited: I need to trademark that slogan.
By your logic, any type of clothing with any type of words on it could be considered offensive to someone. Therefore, no one should be wearing anything with words. Got it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I agree with you quite a bit on a wide range of topics, but not this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
1. Who says the parents forced anything?
2. Why is it a right wing slogan?
3. How is saying a simple biological fact harassing, threatening or intimidating, or hate speech?
Should we just ban all words on clothing? Since everything has the ability to be offensive to someone? What about color as well? In some cultures color has a very significant meaning. Should we just force everyone to wear black and white? What happens if the people prefer white over black, will the black people says that’s racist?
Where does this silliness end?
Obviously not because that's not a personal attack on another person. If a kid wore a shirt saying, 'breeders are disgusting' or 'White is right.' are all equally disgusting personal beliefs which when put on display are impinging on others. Regardless, schools are places of learning, bullying is not acceptable in any form or any provocation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Who says it’s not a personal attack? What happens if a flat earther says, it’s a personal attack, and is offended by it? Does his opinions and feelings not matter?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
1. Because middle school kids don't have hatred in their hearts towards others who aren't like them. That's a learned trait. Middle school kids also don't have Amazon accounts and credit cards to purchase their own hateful prints. A kid who doesn't even know what the Constitution is yet isn't going to be spontaneously arguing their first amendment right to slander other gendered people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
2. Because the Republican party across the nation has been the party which has been restricting trans rights and trying to convince everyone that trans people are all deviants.
3. Because person who identifies as someone other than male or female is being personally attacked by being told they're somehow wrong for being agendered or other gendered. Kids that age don't sport ideologies, nor they advocate for the right to appear clothing bearing discriminatory slogans.
Are flat earthers a protected class? Is there case law establishing discrimination against flat earthers falls within the reasonable person standard used in Courts? NoQuote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
So hate, discrimination, harassment and everything else, doesn’t matter, against a group of people, because they aren’t a protected class? Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Protected class? You are a trans-supremacist... You are arguing that because the LBGTQ+ are a special class of people, a fact statement on a tee shirt becomes hate speech. That doesn’t sound the least bit irrational to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Everything else is pretty broad. Saying the 'Earth is round.' wouldn't be offensive and would clearly pass the reasonable person standard. A shirt meanwhile that said, 'Flat earther's are subhuman' would probably require a shirt change. But since geophysics isn't a protected class, there is obviously no legal reunifications.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
No, it's clearly not. You're welcome to argue that a law protecting sex and LGBT as protected classes, but it doesn't change the law.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Saying there are only two genders is completely reasonable, because it’s based on scientific fact, are scientific facts now considered offensive? Because a select group of people find it offensive? But when someone shirt says the earth is round, a different select group of people who find it offensive, their opinions and feelings don’t matter? Isn’t that being a little hypocritical?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Did it say there are only two genders, you are subhuman if you think otherwise?
I’m pretty sure if you wore a shirt that says the earth is round, that would be offensive to flat earther people. Do they not matter? You keep going but but but.
It doesn’t not matter if they are protected or not, the shirt is offensive to a select group of people, do their feelings not matter?
The law matters in what school officials are required to do to protect students and avoid liability. If a message or slogan is not covered under a specific law and instead is offensive to another student who complains, then school officials are free to exercise their discretion as always. You are confusing your own beliefs with what is required by law in Massachusetts. Whether there is only two genders or not, discrimination and harassment on the basis of sex or LGBT standing is illegal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
"There are two genders" isn't a right wing slogan.. it's literally a statement of fact. Now, I may not agree with a kid wearing that shirt to school.. but I also don't agree with kids wearing BLM shirts, Gay Pride shirts or Use My Correct Pronouns shirt either. I'm old fashion like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I sort of agree with Seran in this... need to look at why the kid was wearing a "There are only 2 genders" tee-shirt. He obviously knows there are trans kid(s) at his school.. so the only reason to wear that shirt is to (and I don't want to use this term.. but I can't think of another) bully this kid(s). Imagine if that were your kid.. life is rough enough as it is... you don't need this going on in school.
Exactly this. Public schools are not a political campaign rally and schools enforcing this is nothing new.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Hell, I got sent home for wearing a "Life's a Beach" T-shirt back in high school. I may have thought it was stupid but I never felt that my free speech was being hindered.
I do get where you are coming from and as a parent I do agree, but a public school claiming that particular shirt is hate speech, obscene, or even a political statement is absurd. The danger with this ambiguity is where does it end? Next they will say a kid wearing Yeezy Boost sneakers is hate speech because Kanye made some antisemitic remarks. After that it will be the American flag as that is clearly a symbol for the Republican Party.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Edit: Also I can’t fathom anything on somebody’s shirt being a form of bullying. These snowflakes need to go watch the Karate Kid.
this is partially why I don't read what shirts say.. Unless the woman wearing it has nice boobs, then I'll figure out what it has to say. For the most part though there are enough memes and statements everywhere else.. I don't care what catchy phrase is written on your shirt.
There's no place for any type of slogan in schools, unless it is age appropriate. Whether it's a statement about genders, gay rights, or pick you group matters. I've never quite understood the absolute acid that is the Left's argument against school uniforms, something something individuality, etc., but honestly do we need kids focused on anything but learning the subjects taught in school and social skills not tied to fighting?Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
So we can get rid of all the Gay Pride flags, the BLM and Antifa memorabilia, Marx, Che Guevara and so on? Good to know you finally see it our way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I always shake my head when I see a young person wearing a Che Guevara shirt. It blows my mind that a mass-murdering racist homophobe piece of shit is today celebrated by some as a hero of the left. Still, I don’t find that to be hate speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
“No I wasn’t staring at your big tits. I was simply reading your shirt.” :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Realk
The only Marx I ever liked was Groucho
I never claimed it was hate speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
I know this will be a totally foreign concept to you, but middle school kids often get summer jobs. Or if you live somewhere it snows, they often make money shoveling snow out of peoples' driveways, mowing lawns in the spring/summer, etc. But again, since it involves jobs and working, I don't expect you to understand any of this. And even if that's not the case, who's to say that the kid didn't ask for the shirt? You have literally nothing to back up your claim that the parents just bought the shirt and made their kid wear it. You're just being a retard like usual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Also, I don't know what trash school you went to, but it didn't take until middle school before we were being taught the Constitution.
What "trans rights" are being restricted? Be specific.Quote:
2. Because the Republican party across the nation has been the party which has been restricting trans rights and trying to convince everyone that trans people are all deviants.
So a middle school kid can decide that they're a whole different gender, I guess completely on their own without any influence from anyone anywhere, but another middle school kid can't side with reality and decide that there are 2 genders without it being his parents forcing the idea on him?Quote:
3. Because person who identifies as someone other than male or female is being personally attacked by being told they're somehow wrong for being agendered or other gendered. Kids that age don't sport ideologies, nor they advocate for the right to appear clothing bearing discriminatory slogans.
Do you ever go back and read your posts and realize how retarded you sound? That was a rhetorical question, because of course you don't, as that would require a tiny amount of self-awareness.
But anyway, tell us what specific rights are being taken away from trannies. You love to make vague claims and then provide nothing at all to back it up, and I expect it to be no different in this case.
It's because you're both a liar and a retard.
Ok, I've decided today I'm totally with the "identify as who you are" movement.
Seran, I identify as "Always correct".
As always correct (I don't care if you use caps or not, I'm easy like that), I state as fact (being always correct), that transvestites have mental issues and should be adults before making any decisions that will impact them the rest of their lives.
NOW WHAT?
Sincerely,
Always correct.
Saying "There are only 2 genders" and saying "The Earth is round" are both factual statements that only extremely mentally ill retards dispute and get upset by.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
What if a tranny goes to school wearing a shirt that says "There are 472 genders" and all the gays and lesbians at that school who say there are only 2 genders are offended by it? Since gays and lesbians are also a protected class, who gets priority in this situation? Is the tranny spewing hate speech because their shirt offends gays and lesbians, who are also a protected class?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
100% chance you'll ignore this because you're stupid and full of shit.
https://youtu.be/C_Gz_iTuRMMQuote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Just in case you've never seen it.
https://i.imgur.com/SWfPE3R.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Seran
https://www.yahoo.com/news/wh-press-...214000969.html
"WH Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre on Trans Youth: ‘These Are Our Kids, They Belong to All of Us"
“That’s something that we have to call out and continue to be very clear about. These are kids. These are our kids. They belong to all of us.”
I'm not sure if she understands how familial units work... they don't belong to everyone, or the Government... speech such as this should be watched closely...
But they'll keep telling the 95% of people they're crazy because they don't want their 14 year old daughter showering with a guys hog slapping their thigh in the high school locker room... that's just HATE!!
Fucking crazy mother fuckers.
Couple of good interviews to watch about all the crazy fucked up Seran loving things going on in the world that Dr Peterson disagrees with and he calls out the stupidity of all this forced transgender mutilation and forced "I identify as a women" so these freaks can interject themselves into women's sports because they're not good enough to compete with other men.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O3MzPeomqs&ab_channel=JordanBPeterson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08DSMeEpQyY&ab_channel=JordanBPeterson
I don't expect Serans of this world to understand or agree with these interviews, but look at what you get when people are too stupid and simply follow suit because they've been programmed to do so.
Pretty much all of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
No trans people have had any rights taken away.
It’s funny how people who are a part of this trans movement, can’t ever explain what rights they are fighting for.
People who are for this transgender movement say the same thing. “If they say anything that I might find offensive! It’s the parents fault! They did this! Yet this kid who is transgender, chose this all on their own with zero outside influence. That’s laughable.
Everyone gets picked on in school, trans people are no different. This entire trans movement is retarded.
Seran just wants to groom/bang kids because it's his only hope of ever getting laid without money being involved, since that would take too big a chunk out of his welfare check.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
I like how Dave Chappelle said it in one of his specials... "I like them old school gays".
When I was young and still went out to party in the D.C. area, the clubs and raves were awesome. Gay, straight, tranny... didn't matter what you were. Everyone had a great time and got along.
People have gotten way to sensitive these days unfortunately. Comedy is our last line of defense against the utter collapse of society IMO... we almost lost it over the past couple years... a strong push was made to silence it... thank god we had a few stand up and continue to mock EVERYONE... because everyone should be equally mocked.
We lose that, we're done.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/amid-titl...083053623.html
Oh btw.... of course this makes sense...
"Amid Title 42's expiration, this broke blue state is considering unemployment for illegal immigrants"
"A California bill that would provide unemployment benefits to illegal immigrants is set for review this week as the Golden State braces for an influx of migrants following Title 42's expiration."
Because... you know...
Pretty sure that was the subject of a Yakov Smirnov special, "In Soviet Russia, the trans people to in special zoo. So that all may admire them, like special flightless bird." Followed by a few smashed watermelon from Gallagher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
How many genders are there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Fun question to ask anyone that says there are more than two "genders".... ask them "How many options are provided by Doctors when applying for a sex change operation?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
I do believe it's a "binary" option... ROFL.
Being non-binary creates a new binary system of binary vs. non-binary, making them binary again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Gender is a social construct. Sex is scientific based.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
There are as many genders as you can think of.
That doesn't work anymore since now they're trying to push "trans female" instead of "trans woman," with some even saying dumb shit like "trans women (or trans females) are biological women."Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Also, no.
Who is "they"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Also, yes. Gender isn't scientifically based. It is purely a social construct.
Sex is what deals with your sexual organs, and, according to dogs, there are 4 sexes. Males, bitches, spayed, and neutered.
Just retards in general. Which typically spreads quickly like untreated cancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Like this one just as a random example:
https://i.imgur.com/wtiVNd3.png
Pretty sure at least one news article listed one of the recent shooters as a "trans female" as well (not the one who was an actual female) but I'm too lazy to go digging. But it's slowly being ushered in and the lines are being blurred even more over time.
Oh ok. How do you explain the retard in the screenshot above having his "period?" Is making your dick bleed and calling it a period a gender thing too now? If not, then what is it?Quote:
Also, yes. Gender isn't scientifically based. It is purely a social construct.
Sex is what deals with your sexual organs, and, according to dogs, there are 4 sexes. Males, bitches, spayed, and neutered.
At the end of the day I don't give a shit what they want to pretend to be as long as they don't expect normal people to be forced to play pretend with them. Except they do expect and want to force that, and they throw nonstop tantrums over it, sometimes violent ones.
Should sports, locker rooms, etc., be gender based? Or sex based?
Sex based.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Gender is nothing more, IMO, than how you present yourself. Basically, when you come to the root of it, it is fashion.
A lot of people mistake the two terms for being the same thing. It is not.
I'm not mistaking them... people who push society to accept "sex" as transitory - ie. "trans-women" are actually "women" or "trans-men" are actually "men"... use the argument of "gender" fluidity to support their non-binary/cis agenda...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
The ones that promote the insanity are actually the ones that interchange the terms, depending on the debate, and what they need to say in order to create a convoluted situation.
Such mislabeling, confusion of terms, and changing of definitions to support their position is normal in this debate.... otherwise there would be no debate.
That's why I worded the question/comment as I did... because it doesn't make sense... it incorporates all of their "fluid" terminology to make a sarcastic point.
Thinking logic works in this argument is asinine at this point.
No, people that don't see it that way interchange the terms too. I've seen it on these forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Regardless, you can't really get a sex change, except male to neutered and female to spayed I guess?
Maybe one day in the future it'll be possible... Maybe if they ever make brain transplants possible. The science is supposedly advancing in that area.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/gpc/Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
"The Gender Policy Council (GPC) was established by President Biden to advance gender equity and equality in both domestic and foreign policy development and implementation."
"with a focus on gender equity and equality, and particular attention to the barriers faced by women and girls."
The White House seems to be confusing "gender" and "sex" then also it would seem... Apparently they view "gender" as interchangeable with "sex"...
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...olicy-council/
You can read through that yourself.
I don't make this shit up... it's what is actually being done... you being logical has no bearing in todays world, and what they are trying to do by creating division amongst the populous.
I literally said people often confuse and use the terms interchangeably.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
And I said... they do it intentionally... so we're in agreement...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
The problem is what I said it is... the larger problem is the Government using them interchangeably to fit their desired outcome. As said... logic no longer applies.
HahahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Methais
I read this article where this person said “ I identify as transgender and non-binary” it’s like huh? You can’t be transgender and non-binary..
According to the trans community, this statement makes you a Nazi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
https://youtu.be/h_TqO9EqMhY
Yup... border is all good. Nothing wrong at all.
Usually.... this would be called an invasion.
You honestly believe someone who is transitioning from their biological gender cannot perceive themselves as non-gendered, other gendered, or gender queer? Interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
You can't change your gender no matter how many drugs you take or how much you surgically mutilate yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I may perceive myself to have the face of Brad Pitt & the dick size of Dirk Diggler. That doesn’t make it a reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Mental illness shouldn't be normalized or encouraged.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Stop being a cucktard 24/7. Try to keep it down to at least 23/7.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
But if the government passed laws saying that because you perceive yourself as someone different than other's believe you are, that is okay with you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
wutQuote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Oh shit another "S," better put a god damn apostrophe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I don’t understand your question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
When it comes to this gender and pronoun nonsense, my simple take on it is people can identify & believe whatever they want to about themselves. I have a problem with compelled speech and forcing that self-perception upon everyone else. It goes both ways too… I’m a biological male and my preferred pronouns are he/him/his. If someone is adamant about addressing me as a woman with she/her/hers, even if that upset me I would never ask the government to make laws to force that person to address me with male pronouns. The Bill of Rights matters.
That's because the only reason it was a question was because it ended in a question mark.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
It made no sense, even for Seran.
It's not compelled speech though, it's protecting the right of an individual to perceive themselves as someone they're biologically and recognizing that intentionally mislabeling someone after being corrected is harassment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
I disagree with you. That is not harassment and is in fact compelled speech if you make a law stating that you have to use people’s preferred pronouns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
That isn't harassment, what you're proposing falls under compelled speech, and you're an extra fragile retard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Should we make name calling in general a crime too? You'd have to stay on the line with 911 24/7 from being called a retard nonstop by everyone who interacts with you if so.
Normal person: Hey Seran, you're a retard.
Seran: No I'm not, I'm smart and my mom said so.
Normal person: No, you're a retard.
Seran: Hello 911? Yes I need the police, someone called me a retard after I told them I'm not a retard.
911: Stop calling us, retard.
Seran: Yes hello Joe Biden? 911 called me a retard. Please help.
Biden: Some retard keeps calling the White House. Make it stop.
FixedQuote:
Originally Posted by Methais
You know that there is nothing forcing anyone to use pronouns in speech right? You can just as easily address someone by there first name if the person is known, or no pronouns whatever if with a stranger. This is why harassment is so easy to prove on a reasonable person standard, it's easy to prove intent. Discrimination on the basis of sex is still codified on the federal level and an increasing number of states also protect gender identity and sexual orientation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
It’s still compelled speech in that example because you are legislating that if a pronoun is used it must be X person’s preferred one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
If you go down that road it opens the door wide open to forcing people to do a Sieg Heil! salute as a greeting and/or every family being required to prominently display a little portrait of Mao <or insert autocrat>in their home. You don’t want that, do you?
If gender is fluid how is someone supposed to keep up with a mentally ill persons pronouns?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
It's dumb as you are.
Biologically, one can only be male or female. It's easy for 99.999999% of humanity to understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
That is a pretty damn false equivocation, I'm sure you could do better than that. Discrimination and hate speech laws protect against willful misuse that is probably meant to cause a hostile work environment or to commit a crime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
It's not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Except that's exactly why we don't have hate speech laws. Speaking out against the crown/papacy (protected class's) landed you in the dungeons or hanging from a noose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
That's why people like you are regressive, you think you're smarter than those that faced much harsher realities than being called a faggot.
Actually we do. Acts of intimidation, which includes hate speech in specific circumstances falls under federal hate crime code.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Hate speech laws are UnConstitutional and have been struck down every time attempted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
You really have no grasp on anything, do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
If someone's talking about someone else with a stranger, it's harassment to not use that person's "preferred pronouns," even when the person being talked about isn't there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
And you want this enforceable by law. :rofl:
Stop being such a waste of life loser all day every day. Maybe get off the internet long enough to get a job or take a shower or something.
Feel free to link us to this law that puts people in jail for "hate speech."Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Seran be like:Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
https://youtu.be/S3CkY5tVm9I
Even discrimination isn't a criminal violation. It is a civil law, with fines based on the size of the company, and only applies to companies employing more than 15 people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Are you implying that Seran doesn't know what he's talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
https://media0.giphy.com/media/KeuU2...=200w.gif&ct=g
I mean... Does anyone need to imply that? I thought it was just the gospel at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
https://media1.giphy.com/media/xT9Ig...=200w.gif&ct=gQuote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/civi...ights-statutesQuote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Hate crimes are not hate speech. Hate crimes require you to perform a violent action, not just say mean things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Read your own links, for fucks sake.
Add "Hate crime" vs. "Hate speech" to the infinite list of things you're too retarded to understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Since you're too stupid to follow along and probably didn't read the contents of your own link, there is literally nothing in that link that is regulating speech.
Feel free to quote anything I may have missed from that link that backs up the point you think you're making.
Just because you post a link that you don't expect anyone to read doesn't magically make anything you say become true.
Stop being retarded.
And unemployed.
And unwashed.
And triggered.
And butthurt.
And retarded again.
In before Seran unironically says, "Hate speech is violence!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
"BUT THEY BOTH SAY'S HATE!" -SeranQuote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
You clearly overlooked the acts of intimidation part, I understand ignorance is bliss but that is not how reality works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Add "intimidation" as well to the list of things you don't understand because you're retarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
If we're using your logic, you posting this is an act of intimidation because I said so, and I'll be calling the police after I'm done posting this because you're violating my rights, since as of right now, I identify as a woman and you're oppressing my rights as a protected class via intimidation.
I'll be a dude again after the cops are done dealing with you, but for right now, you're in big trouble mister.
You know how reality doesn’t work? Government doesn’t get to force me to use your language of the damned and New Speak. How bout you get the fuck outta here with that hate speech “ZOMG I was misgendered!!!” bullshit and go suck on those tiddies of American freedom called the First Amendment boyyyyyeeeeee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I'm starting to think that Seran is also a tranny. We already know he's a pedo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Question is: Which way did he transition?Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Intimidation doesn’t mean hate speech. You don’t know how words work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I am not sure which reality you are living in. Here's a snippet from the ACLU's website.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
In our view, the First Amendment protects everyone, whether you are on the left, the right, or somewhere in between. For a century, the ACLU has not only defended that right on behalf of others, but has exercised the right in all that we do. It’s the First Amendment that protects our organization’s rights to speak out, to organize, to demonstrate, and to petition for a redress of grievances. It’s the lifeblood of democracy, and the oxygen of a civil society. And most important, the First Amendment is what ensures that those without political power can work to demand justice. At the end of the day, that’s why we believe the First Amendment has to protect everyone — and why we remain committed to defending even the rights of those with whom we disagree.
The ACLU doesn't agree with you. You can read the whole posting here. https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-libe...speech-we-hate
Or even better since it has pictures and words go watch this. https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/mighty-ira
Intimidation includes a perceived threat of violence, which has to be proven. It isn’t just words alone. Ignorance is bliss, Seran, and you are living the dream.
HI, opinions aren't law.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seizer
They aren’t. I’m glad you agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
https://i.imgflip.com/1pymhv.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Seran
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Originally Posted by Seizer
To be fair.. whenever you are talking to Seran about any topic, that is what you are facing.
Dumb it down to his level... like finger paint with your own feces.. maybe you will get through to him by speaking his language.
A real poocasso.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Lol, I’ve seen it at my job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhaalizmo
As an attempt by the perp to become undetainable?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Zookeeper at the chimp exhibit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0cqAoaybNE
This guy can barely read his prepared statements to a fellow world leader... you really think he's talking for himself? Everything is scripted... literally everything...
How far we have fallen to allow it to happen like this... purely beaten wife syndrome at this point.
No, they were just mentally insane. I work around a lot of the criminally insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhaalizmo
This is probably the worst part of the IMF, the fact it gives massive loans which it so often forgives, creating a worldwide welfare program. The AP writes this article like China has done something wrong in expecting money it loans to be repaid, as if the expectation is a loan is in fact meant to be a gift.
https://apnews.com/article/china-deb...e6d8d5dfbd3ed6Quote:
China’s loans pushing world’s poorest countries to brink of collapse
A dozen poor countries are facing economic instability and even collapse under the weight of hundreds of billions of dollars in foreign loans, much of them from the world’s biggest and most unforgiving government lender, China.
An Associated Press analysis of a dozen countries most indebted to China — including Pakistan, Kenya, Zambia, Laos and Mongolia — found paying back that debt is consuming an ever-greater amount of the tax revenue needed to keep schools open, provide electricity and pay for food and fuel. And it’s draining foreign currency reserves these countries use to pay interest on those loans, leaving some with just months before that money is gone.
Behind the scenes is China’s reluctance to forgive debt and its extreme secrecy about how much money it has loaned and on what terms, which has kept other major lenders from stepping in to help. On top of that is the recent discovery that borrowers have been required to put cash in hidden escrow accounts that push China to the front of the line of creditors to be paid.
Countries in AP’s analysis had as much as 50% of their foreign loans from China and most were devoting more than a third of government revenue to paying off foreign debt. Two of them, Zambia and Sri Lanka, have already gone into default, unable to make even interest payments on loans financing the construction of ports, mines and power plants.
In Pakistan, millions of textile workers have been laid off because the country has too much foreign debt and can’t afford to keep the electricity on and machines running.
In Kenya, the government has held back paychecks to thousands of civil service workers to save cash to pay foreign loans. The president’s chief economic adviser tweeted last month, “Salaries or default? Take your pick.”
Since Sri Lanka defaulted a year ago, a half-million industrial jobs have vanished, inflation has pierced 50% and more than half the population in many parts of the country has fallen into poverty.
Experts predict that unless China begins to soften its stance on its loans to poor countries, there could be a wave of more defaults and political upheavals.
“In a lot of the world, the clock has hit midnight,” said Harvard economist Ken Rogoff. “ China has moved in and left this geopolitical instability that could have long-lasting effects.”
So now you are against welfare. Well, that's a step.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I think it’s the fact that China enters loan agreements with countries they know, can’t pay the money back, so in return, China demands other things as payment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Playing Civilization the right way, economic victory. Predatory lending as sort of been a historical component of Chinese history actually, but like anything, no one forced these countries to take the loans. But since they did, they must repay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Now do the same for student loans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Which is why your opinion about any of this means jack shit.
Well that, plus the part where you're factually incorrect every time you click the POST button too, no matter what it is you're talking about.
Your reply to Seizer's factual post is how you always respond to things when you know you've been called out, can't come up with anything worth fuck to say because you know you're wrong, but are too butthurt and stuffed up your own ass to ever admit to being wrong about something. I'm sure you've already doubled down in the posts I haven't gotten to yet.
This is all assuming you're an actual person and not an AI program coded to be as retarded as possible.
Unhinged, psycho professor pulls a machete on a reporter when he knocked on her door.
Unhinged, psycho professor is fired.
So the good news is, this individual won't be teaching anymore.. bad news is: How the fuck did she ever get a teaching position to begin with?
https://nypost.com/2023/05/23/nyc-co...eporters-neck/
1) black privilegeQuote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
2) she was a professor of art at a shitty university (so the bar isn’t set too high here)
3) it helps in the interview if you tell the university you are a Marxist
How is she not arrested? Or shot dead in self defense? That reporter who let her hold it to his neck must have been in frozen mode or something? Like why didn't her run away when she came out with the machete?Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Same crazy bitch who shouted at a couple of pro-life students and destroyed their display AT HER OWN SCHOOL and the school was just like "I dunno! I don't see a problem here! I guess we'll investigate it...since it was on camera...."Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
So screaming at students and destroying their private property on school grounds doesn't result in an immediate firing for a far left unhinged "teacher." They have to actually hold a deadly weapon to someone's neck and threaten to murder them before the school finally gets around to taking action.
Because Alvin Bragg is busy arresting innocent people and letting actual criminals walk free.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
It’s NYC. State law imposes a duty to retreat before using deadly force in self defense. If the reporter shot this woman, even with her holding a machete to his neck, he would be charged with a crime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
https://www.yahoo.com/news/column-bl...120010984.html
"Column: A Black guard shot a Black man for shoplifting. Blame San Francisco's legacy of racism"
Because this is the type of world the Left has created.... it's why that Teacher could do what she did... and it's why the insane headline above is even made...
The US is done. It's spreading to fast. Thanks social media and a corrupt ruling class... that understands more about influencing and mass manipulation than 90% of the populous.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trains-sa...130004196.html
"'Our trains need to be safe.' Woman's attack on L.A. Metro line sparks calls for action"
You can read it for yourself... but you think anyone wants to help out after the national news headline of that Marine in NY getting charged for trying to help passengers?
Fuck the Left.
Exactly. People should think twice about helping strangers in places like California or New York.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
I'm sure it was a reluctant "We don't want to fire you because we're assholes just like you are and see no problem with what you're doing, but we kind of have to now." firing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
100%Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
"You forced our hand. We applaud what you did to shut down that abortion demonstration, but now we have to because the media"
14 year olds serving alcohol, working until 9pm on school nights instead of homework or rest, abolishing age verification requirements.. This is the same Republican agenda that has kids being drained for 'youth serum' in Texas. Pretty clear the anti abortion agenda is is all about making sure there are children to abuse and exploit.
Quote:
State lawmakers want children to fill labor shortages, even in bars and on school nights
MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Lawmakers in several states are embracing legislation to let children work in more hazardous occupations, longer hours on school nights and in expanded roles including serving alcohol in bars and restaurants as young as 14.
The efforts to significantly roll back labor rules are largely led by Republican lawmakers to address worker shortages and in some cases run afoul of federal regulations.
Child welfare advocates worry the measures represent a coordinated push to scale back hard-won protections for minors.
“The consequences are potentially disastrous,” said Reid Maki, director of the Child Labor Coalition, which advocates against exploitative labor policies. “You can’t balance a perceived labor shortage on the backs of teen workers.”
Lawmakers proposed loosening child labor laws in at least 10 states over the past two years, according to a report published last month by the left-leaning Economic Policy Institute. Some bills became law, while others were withdrawn or vetoed.
Legislators in Wisconsin, Ohio and Iowa are actively considering relaxing child labor laws to address worker shortages. Employers have struggled to fill open positions after a spike in retirements, deaths and illnesses from COVID-19, decreases in legal immigration and other factors.
Wisconsin lawmakers back a proposal to allow 14-year-olds to serve alcohol in bars and restaurants. If passed, Wisconsin would have the lowest such limit nationwide, according to the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism.
The Ohio Legislature is on track to pass a bill allowing students ages 14 and 15 to work until 9 p.m. during the school year with their parents’ permission. That’s later than federal law allows, so a companion measure asks the U.S. Congress to amend its own laws.
Under the federal Fair Labor Standards Act, students that age can only work until 7 p.m. during the school year. Congress passed the law in 1938 to stop children from being exposed to dangerous conditions and abusive practices in mines, factories, farms and street trades.
Republican Arkansas Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders signed a law in March eliminating permits that required employers to verify a child’s age and their parent’s consent. Without work permit requirements, companies caught violating child labor laws can more easily claim ignorance. Other measures to loosen child labor laws have been passed into law in New Jersey, New Hampshire and Iowa.
Iowa Republican Gov. Kim Reynolds signed a law last year allowing teens aged 16 and 17 to work unsupervised in child care centers. The state Legislature approved a bill this month to allow teens of that age to serve alcohol in restaurants. It would also expand the hours minors can work. Reynolds, who said in April she supports more youth employment, has until June 3 to sign or veto the measure.
Republicans dropped provisions from a version of the bill allowing children aged 14 and 15 to work in dangerous fields including mining, logging and meatpacking. But it kept some provisions that the Labor Department say violate federal law, including allowing children as young as 14 to briefly work in freezers and meat coolers, and extending work hours in industrial laundries and assembly lines.
Teen workers are more likely to accept low pay and less likely to unionize or push for better working conditions, said Maki, of the Child Labor Coalition, a Washington-based advocacy network.
“There are employers that benefit from having kind of docile teen workers,” Maki said, adding that teens are easy targets for industries that rely on vulnerable populations such as immigrants and the formerly incarcerated to fill dangerous jobs.
The Department of Labor reported in February that child labor violations had increased by nearly 70% since 2018. The agency is increasing enforcement and asking Congress to allow larger fines against violators.
It fined one of the nation’s largest meatpacking sanitation contractors $1.5 million in February after investigators found the company illegally employed more than 100 children at locations in eight states. The child workers cleaned bone saws and other dangerous equipment in meatpacking plants, often using hazardous chemicals.
National business lobbyists, chambers of commerce and well-funded conservative groups are backing the state bills to increase teen participation in the workforce, including Americans for Prosperity, a conservative political network and the National Federation of Independent Business, which typically aligns with Republicans.
The conservative Opportunity Solutions Project and its parent organization, Florida-based think tank Foundation for Government Accountability, helped lawmakers in Arkansas and Missouri draft bills to roll back child labor protections, The Washington Post reported. The groups, and allied lawmakers, often say their efforts are about expanding parental rights and giving teenagers more work experience.
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Yes, not allowing kids to be murdered in the womb is completely about worker shortages.Quote:
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Bet you cut off the welfare cash spigot and a huge amount of the "labor shortage" would disappear.
Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything, but since anything involving jobs and working upsets you, regardless of the circumstances or who's involved, I can understand why a welfare leech like you would be so triggered.Quote:
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Seran is a great argument for sterilization or abstinence. ;)
According to Seran, republicans are trying to block abstinence.Quote:
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He refuses to explain how they're doing that though.
I'm not joking, he literally said that.
Don't take my word for it though. Take Seran's:
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