Things that made you Facepalm today (Political Version)

[Neveragain]

You know that there is nothing forcing anyone to use pronouns in speech right? You can just as easily address someone by there first name if the person is known, or no pronouns whatever if with a stranger. This is why harassment is so easy to prove on a reasonable person standard, it's easy to prove intent. Discrimination on the basis of sex is still codified on the federal level and an increasing number of states also protect gender identity and sexual orientation.

If gender is fluid how is someone supposed to keep up with a mentally ill persons pronouns?

It's dumb as you are.

[Neveragain]

It's not compelled speech though, it's protecting the right of an individual to perceive themselves as someone they're biologically and recognizing that intentionally mislabeling someone after being corrected is harassment.

Biologically, one can only be male or female. It's easy for 99.999999% of humanity to understand.

[Seran]

It’s still compelled speech in that example because you are legislating that if a pronoun is used it must be X person’s preferred one.

If you go down that road it opens the door wide open to forcing people to do a Sieg Heil! salute as a greeting and/or every family being required to prominently display a little portrait of Mao <or insert autocrat>in their home. You don’t want that, do you?

That is a pretty damn false equivocation, I'm sure you could do better than that. Discrimination and hate speech laws protect against willful misuse that is probably meant to cause a hostile work environment or to commit a crime.

[~Rocktar~]

That is a pretty damn false equivocation, I'm sure you could do better than that. Discrimination and hate speech laws protect against willful misuse that is probably meant to cause a hostile work environment or to commit a crime.

It's not.

[Neveragain]

That is a pretty damn false equivocation, I'm sure you could do better than that. Discrimination and hate speech laws protect against willful misuse that is probably meant to cause a hostile work environment or to commit a crime.

Except that's exactly why we don't have hate speech laws. Speaking out against the crown/papacy (protected class's) landed you in the dungeons or hanging from a noose.

That's why people like you are regressive, you think you're smarter than those that faced much harsher realities than being called a faggot.

[Seran]

Except that's exactly why we don't have hate speech laws. Speaking out against the crown/papacy (protected class's) landed you in the dungeons or hanging from a noose.

That's why people like you are regressive, you think you're smarter than those that faced much harsher realities than being called a faggot.

Actually we do. Acts of intimidation, which includes hate speech in specific circumstances falls under federal hate crime code.

[Gelston]

That is a pretty damn false equivocation, I'm sure you could do better than that. Discrimination and hate speech laws protect against willful misuse that is probably meant to cause a hostile work environment or to commit a crime.

Hate speech laws are UnConstitutional and have been struck down every time attempted.

[Methais]

...address someone by there first name...

You really have no grasp on anything, do you?

You know that there is nothing forcing anyone to use pronouns in speech right? You can just as easily address someone by there first name if the person is known, or no pronouns whatever if with a stranger. This is why harassment is so easy to prove on a reasonable person standard, it's easy to prove intent. Discrimination on the basis of sex is still codified on the federal level and an increasing number of states also protect gender identity and sexual orientation.

If someone's talking about someone else with a stranger, it's harassment to not use that person's "preferred pronouns," even when the person being talked about isn't there?

And you want this enforceable by law.

Stop being such a waste of life loser all day every day. Maybe get off the internet long enough to get a job or take a shower or something.

[Methais]

That is a pretty damn false equivocation, I'm sure you could do better than that. Discrimination and hate speech laws protect against willful misuse that is probably meant to cause a hostile work environment or to commit a crime.

Feel free to link us to this law that puts people in jail for "hate speech."

[Suppressed Poet]

Stop being such a waste of life loser all day every day. Maybe get off the internet long enough to get a job or take a shower or something.

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