You’re right, it is America. We have a constitution. I suggest the Democrats follow it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Trump isn’t impeached until the articles are sent over to the Senate.
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You’re right, it is America. We have a constitution. I suggest the Democrats follow it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Trump isn’t impeached until the articles are sent over to the Senate.
In your opinion? LOL. Your opinion doesn’t matter. What matters is the process as outlined in the constitution.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
You're right, so because the Constitution doesn't outline articles must be submitted to the Senate, we'll just assume that's what was meant and so Trump isn't impeached. Because the Constitution also doesn't state the trial held by the Senate needs to be impartial, we'll again just assume Republican Senators voting party over country is exactly what the founders envisioned. Nevermind all those Federalist papers outlining the exact opposite in both cases. /sarcasmQuote:
Originally Posted by Fortybox
Dude, it is just like any other bill that exists. It isn't out of the House until it is presented to the Senate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
You literally cannot substantiate this. And if you are going via polls, you STILL cannot substantiate this. It's 100% completely fabricated in your head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Because so many things that the democrats want were desired by those who wrote the Constitution.... And claiming that those Republicans are voting party over country is only an opinion , it isn't fact and more than likely just fiction given the current state of the democratic party. Although in reality neither are really fit to lead the country we are forced to choose between one or the other due to laziness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Welcome to a representative republic, those Republican senators have constituents to answer to. Those constituents most likely don't support impeachment if they vote republican.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Simply put, Democrats are not winning over the hearts and minds of these voters. I guess that's how it goes when your last candidate called half the country deplorable, it becomes a tough sell at that point.
This is nothing new with the political class vs. normal people and it applies to both sides of the aisle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I know it only matters to you when it’s Republicans, but that’s part of why we laugh at you.
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The majority in our country wishes to see Trump removed, yet the Senate and this forum are clearly drinking the Trumper koolaid.
Impeachment is a shared responsibility of both chambers. Democrats must transmit the articles over to the Senate. Failure to do so means Trump wasn’t impeached.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Delaying only further demonstrates that these charges are bogus as any reasonable body would submit the articles in due haste if they actually were serious enough.
There is something very hypocritical about holding only to the articles until it gets closer to the election. Was the House impeachment for the good of the country or for the good of the next Democratic contender?
I think you know the answer to this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vindicate
Literally any person who votes knows the answer to this. The problem here is that people think it's ok. This will come back and bite the democrats, just like Harry Reid using the nuclear option has come back and bitten them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
I wonder if Backlash knows and just doesn’t care, or if he really is that monumentally dumb and gullible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
I think some extremist democrats are ok with it, just like they are ok with the Russiagate fraud and the Kavanaugh hearings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
For the most part this has resulted in the blue collar vote fleeing from the party.
This was already answered when it was the Russian "Collusion" "Investigation".. and when that didn't work, they said it was because of the phone call to Ukraine leader.. and when the transcript of that didn't pan out.. it was just "OMG WE HATE HIM! SO WE MUST QUICKLY PROCEED WITH IMPEACHMENT FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY! THIS IS AN EMERGENCY!!!! Well, let's just wait and take our time before we proceed....."Quote:
Originally Posted by Vindicate
As many of you probably don't know because it goes against the media/left wing's narrative, Trump has been pushing for countries to decriminalize homosexuality.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-50901537
Zambia recently jailed a gay couple for 15 years for the crime of being gay. The US ambassador said it was bullshit so Zambia kicked him out of the country.
The US has also threatened to withhold aid from the country until they change their gay hating ways.
I wonder why the media isn't talking about this because it shows presidents use aid all of the time to change the behavior of less civilized societies?
I'm just surprised the media and Democrats haven't thrown gays under the bus completely and used this as more proof that Trump needs to be impeached for withholding foreign aid under a quid pro quo scheme.
Double Secret Impeachment here we go! PUSHUPS!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
BacKKKlash: "He's only doing it because Zambia is predominately black and he's a white supremacist!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
https://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-se...ial?ref=scroll
Graham: Rudy Should Scrub Evidence for Russian Propaganda
“I wouldn’t trust Rudy to represent me in a parking dispute so I’d say avoid,” one senior GOP Senate aide said when asked about any plans for a Ukraine briefing.
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Donald Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani—partly because they fear he might try to pass off Russian conspiracy theories as fact, according to interviews with more than half a dozen Republican and Democratic lawmakers and aides.
On his trip to Kyiv last month, Giuliani met with former general prosecutors and parliamentarians known for peddling Russian conspiracy theories, including supposed plots that involve Ukrainian intervention in the 2016 U.S. presidential election and 2020 presidential candidate Joe Biden and his son Hunter. When he arrived back in Washington, Giuliani updated Trump, according to two individuals with knowledge of their conversation, and said publicly the president asked him to brief Republican senators about the information he gathered.
“He wants me to do it,” Giuliani told The Washington Post in an interview earlier this month. “I’m working on pulling it together and hope to have it done by the end of the week.”
Since then, though, various lawmakers, as well as administration officials and national security brass, have privately expressed concerns about Giuliani's latest Ukraine jaunt, given that the Trump lawyer's efforts are what helped create this Ukraine scandal and get the president impeached in the first place. Both Democrat and Republican senators have steered clear of the president’s personal attorney over concern that the information he is trying to disseminate originated from figures in Ukraine known for spinning the truth or spreading outright lies.
To comment on the previous post I'm glad someone in Washington has some sense and is not listing to that fool.
Daily Beast. Unnamed source. Anti anything Trump.
So basically... nothing new there. Typical short dick pedophile source.
Lulz.. the daily beast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Dude.. stop making this too easy.
TR;DRQuote:
Originally Posted by Back
No one cares about your comments. We're just here to laugh at how stupid you are. I mean technically we do care about your comments, because that's your only purpose here is to be laughed at for being dumb, and it's extra funny when you think anyone except maybe Seran is going to take you seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
I doubt Seran even takes him seriously. He just wants someone to agree with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
These are both correct. Nb4 back posts "TC;DR".Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
https://www.boltonpac.com/2020/01/st...john-r-bolton/
With Bolton testifying and Chief Justice John Roberts presiding over the Senate impeachment trial I predict Trump's resignation followed with the claim that he didn't want to be president anyway.Quote:
During the present impeachment controversy, I have tried to meet my obligations both as a citizen and as former National Security Advisor. My colleague, Dr. Charles Kupperman, faced with a House committee subpoena on the one hand, and a Presidential directive not to testify on the other, sought final resolution of this Constitutional conflict from the Federal judiciary. After my counsel informed the House committee that I too would seek judicial resolution of these Constitutional issues, the committee chose not to subpoena me. Nevertheless, I publicly resolved to be guided by the outcome of Dr. Kupperman’s case.
But both the President and the House of Representatives opposed his effort on jurisdictional grounds, and each other on the merits. The House committee went so far as to withdraw its subpoena to Dr. Kupperman in a deliberate attempt to moot the case and deprive the court of jurisdiction. Judge Richard Leon, in a carefully reasoned opinion on December 30, held Dr. Kupperman’s case to be moot, and therefore did not reach the separation-of-powers issues.
The House has concluded its Constitutional responsibility by adopting Articles of Impeachment related to the Ukraine matter. It now falls to the Senate to fulfill its Constitutional obligation to try impeachments, and it does not appear possible that a final judicial resolution of the still-unanswered Constitutional questions can be obtained before the Senate acts.
Accordingly, since my testimony is once again at issue, I have had to resolve the serious competing issues as best I could, based on careful consideration and study. I have concluded that, if the Senate issues a subpoena for my testimony, I am prepared to testify.
For More Updates, Follow Ambassador John Bolton on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmbJohnBolton
Quoted for your future meltdown.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
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Originally Posted by Back
Interesting move by Bolton. If the Senate does not call him to testify, he will sell a lot of books!
This is correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClydeR
Hey, at least now the sensitive liberal snowflakes can finally state with authority, that President Trump has been impeached.
Of course.. it won't matter since he will be acquitted in the Senate.
I love the latest rumor I'm hearing.
Pelosi held up the articles so she could help Biden (since feel the bern and pocahontas will have to attend).
I love it if it's intended to stick a thumb in the squads eyes.
"If it is what you say is it, I love it!" - Donald Trump Jr. responding to an email from Russian contacts alleging they had politically damaging information about Hillary Clinton, his father's political opponent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
What politician wouldn't accept politically damaging information about a political opponent? Name one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keller
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Originally Posted by Keller
Remember when Donna Brazile gave Clinton the debate questions?Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
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The goal posts might as well be on Mars at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
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Originally Posted by Keller
in before fart sniffing
Thanks for confirming, you cannot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keller
Remember when Clinton started calling everyone Russian assets because she lost an election, even our own service/congress members?Quote:
Originally Posted by Keller
And you're still dumb enough to believe this shit.
https://thepeoplescube.com/images/Hi...sian_Asset.jpg
My bet is most would not if that info was coming from Russia or some other well known adversarial foreign government. Only Trump is crooked, egotistical, and stupid enough to collude with enemies of the state for political gain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Forgive my intellectual humility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
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Originally Posted by Keller
There's nothing intellectual about you at all. You are literally on the Backlash level of incompetence and ignorance.
Although he didn't creep on anyone's 13 year old daughter's social media (that we know of).. so you're literally below Backlash.
"The 1980's called, they want their foreign policy back" ~ Barack Hussein ObamaQuote:
Originally Posted by Back
Do you just not watch the news at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
For the record, for those who continue to read PB's allegations, here is a timeline of events.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
In the late 2000s, TheE, a former poster and all around good guy, was vulnerable with the forum and shared that he was struggling to find work as a young attorney (that generation of law school graduates is known as the lost generation because a lot of them never got jobs).
PB, who is notoriously mean spirited and generally an asshole, made fun of him for failing to get work. As I was surrounded by friends in similar situations to TheE, I was very observant of PB being a giant dick to TheE.
In my anger, I lashed out at PB to try to make him feel as small as he was making TheE feel. In my attempt, I made a comment to the effect that PB is a poor father (he was, at the time, spending most evenings playing WoW and posting on the PC while having two young daughters at home) and his daughters would grow up with daddy issues and wind up being strippers. Very low blow and sometimes I regret that (although as a parent of a 10 and 5 year old, I have NO clue how someone can spend most evenings playing video games and neglect their children). I was young(er) and made some bad decisions.
A couple of years ago, I was curious whether PB's daughter wound up being a stripper. She was in college (so not 13, unless she is genetically not related to PB and therefore potentially smart enough to enroll in college that young) at the time and had a Facebook page. It looked like she was a well adjusted young woman. I made a comment to PB to that affect.
That's the long and the short of it. Now he runs around replying to most posts (and giving me reputation when he can) saying I stalked his 13 year old child and that I am a pedophile.
He's fucking weird.
I'd argue we are all weird, but going so far as to check out his daughter is pretty fucking creepy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keller
I don't know how much of this is accurate and I don't really give a shit one way or another.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keller
That said, you keep talking about what a dick PB is, yet every time you show up here and start posting you're a dick to everyone.
Figured I'd make you aware of that since you don't seem to possess enough self awareness to notice.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion and I don't begrudge you yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
I just wanted to make sure your opinion was based on facts.
Thanks bud.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
I appreciate it.
It's almost like you have learned nothing about yourself since this creepy shit. You know, like being grateful that people lost their lives in a natural disaster because in your obtuse world poor people cause global warming and they all voted for Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keller
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Originally Posted by Keller
Tl;Dr version.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keller
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrathbringer
That's quite a story you have here...Quote:
Originally Posted by Keller
So.. let's just pretend your story here has any facts in it (shockingly.. it does not)... in your head you believe that it's then ok to go on a 13 year old daughter's Facebook page to "get even" for her father?
Question: Does your wife know what a creepy mother fucker you are? Does she know you creep on 13 year old girls Facebook pages?
Also, I never claimed you are a pedophile... but if the shoe fits...
And let's not even mention that you claim it was the late 2000's that I upset you so much.. that a decade later, you are STILL creeping on my daughter's facebook page in an attempt to get even with me for "making fun of TheE not finding a job?
A DECADE??
Dude.. you really need to get some help. Or a better story.
I’m not sure how you thought this explanation would make you look good, or at least not as bad as ParkBandit was claiming, you just come off sounding like a huge asshole and creep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keller
Seriously you stalked his daughter’s Facebook page years later to see if she did in fact become a stripper because her father played video games? You for real?
I wonder how children turn out who are raised by parents who wish death upon those they disagree with? Don’t worry, Keller, I’m not a creep and loser like you are so I won’t stalk your children to find out the answer.
Honestly now, Keller, even if we take your story at face value, how did you think Parkbandit would respond to your message?
“Hey so remember years ago I said your daughter would become a stripper because you’re a horrible father? Well I just checked our her Facebook page and she seems well adjusted.”
As a supposed good parent you should be able to see the creepiness of this.
No you are fucking weird. And give me the creeps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keller
If ever you feel the need to look up (aka stalk) someone or even worse their family members because they pissed you off in a forum, you crossed a line.
I feel admitting that should be enough to ban you and any other accounts you make on here.
You did stalk his child, and you are fucking weird.
People piss me off fairly often online, and never once did I consider to look them up on other social media websites. But that is how 'well adjusted' people act.
TheE was never a good guy, he was a whiny Leftist shill that cried about his inability to swallow his pride and look outside the high paying world of TV corporate law to find work in the real world outside of the top Leftist enclaves. Like the rest of his whiny generation entitlement they all cried because they could not work in their fields and would not move or degrade themselves to find less than the perfect job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keller
If there are jobs available and you refuse to take them because of pride then you deserve ridicule. Proud people starve.Quote:
PB, who is notoriously mean spirited and generally an asshole, made fun of him for failing to get work. As I was surrounded by friends in similar situations to TheE, I was very observant of PB being a giant dick to TheE.
So you were an ass and spewed condescending, judgmental opinions about things that you had no experience with and without a fair knowledge of the situation. In other words, you were the typical angry, holier than thou, Leftist ass. Got it.Quote:
In my anger, I lashed out at PB to try to make him feel as small as he was making TheE feel. In my attempt, I made a comment to the effect that PB is a poor father (he was, at the time, spending most evenings playing WoW and posting on the PC while having two young daughters at home) and his daughters would grow up with daddy issues and wind up being strippers. Very low blow and sometimes I regret that (although as a parent of a 10 and 5 year old, I have NO clue how someone can spend most evenings playing video games and neglect their children). I was young(er) and made some bad decisions.
Then you went way over the line, like most Leftist do in today's cancel culture, didn't have any moral hangup with going over that line and seriously, justifiably earned yourself the title creeper that PB calls you.Quote:
A couple of years ago, I was curious whether PB's daughter wound up being a stripper. She was in college (so not 13, unless she is genetically not related to PB and therefore potentially smart enough to enroll in college that young) at the time and had a Facebook page. It looked like she was a well adjusted young woman. I made a comment to PB to that affect.
That's the long and the short of it. Now he runs around replying to most posts (and giving me reputation when he can) saying I stalked his 13 year old child and that I am a pedophile.
He's fucking weird.
I don't know if you genuinely regret your decision and I don't care. I do hope you have changed, gotten help or whatever because if not, someone, somewhere will kill you over it once you get caught/prosecuted for real. Now I know why you and others were all up in my shit when I got stalked because some pussy couldn't find any other way to attack me or my ideas than to try and shame me over internet posts. You were right along with them in going over that line. Nothing I ever did online or in person was ever as creepy, stalkerish and just plain as wrong as what you did.
The funniest part is I thought PB was slightly exaggerating what a creep Keller is. Then Keller comes along and is like "Imma prove I'm not a creep!" and ends up proving that if anything PB was slightly downplaying what a creep Keller is.
Keller: the man who wishes death upon people he disagrees with and stalks the Facebook page of a young woman because he disagreed with her father's politics. This man also thinks he's a good person, a good father, and has the utter audacity to talk about someone else being a bad father.
Keller, you're a horrible piece of shit. If you walk away from the PC learning one thing I hope it is at least that.
Show us how to bake bread again? I guess baking bread is the win moment life?Quote:
Originally Posted by Keller
I didn't/don't care for your postings or some of the other same politically aligned postings of people during the mid to late 2000's here. My disagreements with you/them never caused me to think "I should hunt down their social media accounts and see what they/friends/family are in your circle." It never crossed my mind that my dislike of your political postings on a forum would include discovering who you are, what your circle looks like, nor how can I humiliate you. You are defining your stereotype here. You are the weird one.
I think the reason why she’s holding the articles, Is because the republicans are refusing witnesses, or won’t allow trump to stand trial which goes back to Clinton, if trump gets caught lying to Congress, like Clinton was(or was it grand jury?) I don’t remember which, the republicans feel their hands would be tied..
Trump fucked up big IMO, but I feel that he shouldn’t be impeached, let him finish out his term and let the next election decide.
Every fucking politician lies, every single fucking one.
If Pelosi feels her case is too weak then that's her fault and the fault of the Democrats in the House. It's not the Senate's job to do the House's job for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Clinton was impeached for lying to a grand jury and also obstruction of justice. Both of which there was ample evidence of, unlike the Democrats' bogus obstruction of congress bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
To be fair, TheE really is a good guy. You might not like him for his naive political views sometimes.. but the guy is one of those guys that walks the talk (unlike Backlash).Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
He actually joined the Peace Corps and worked in some real shitholes, helping people. Keller is just using him to create a back story of how he's not a certified, full blown creep. Fact is, everyone was making fun of TheE... none more than TheE himself.
I don't want to say anything more because I'm sure Keller is banging away on his keyboard right now, trying to track down my 13 year old neice's Facebook...
What?Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
You clearly don't understand how this process works. Pelosi gained exactly nothing from holding onto the Articles of Impeachment. She has literally nothing to do with the Senate process at all. And if you believe she held onto them to get some sort of assurances.. she didn't. She has no power in the Senate.
Latest conspiracy theory says she held onto them into 2020 (OMG EVEN THOUGH THIS WAS SUCH AN EMERGENCY THAT THEY HAD TO BE VOTED ON RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!) so candidates running for President that are in the Senate (Mostly Sanders, but also Warren) would have to go to Washington to be in attendance and not on the stump in Iowa.
Personally, I don't think she's that smart and just overplayed her hand.
I’m fully aware how it works. She also wants a fair trial in the senate(which she has no control of)(and the the way the house conducted it’s investigation wasn’t very impartial either tbh)(two wrongs also doesn’t make it right) but based on separation of powers, checks and balances... it should be fair... but when multiple senators have already said on record they won’t be impartial, that imo is wrong. Last I checked Congress was separate from the president, not working for him right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Or does congress now work for the president?
I’m Not agreeing with what Pelosi is doing, or this entire impeachment bullshit, just sharing my thoughts on why she held back giving them to the senate
YOU GOT OWNED SO HARD OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG I HOPE THIS TEACHES YOU TO THINK TWICE BEFORE MESSING WITH KELLER ON THE INTERNET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
What legitimate reason did she actually hold them back though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Depending on who you ask, butthurt is a legitimate reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
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Well let me ask you a question, let’s imagine the positions were flipped, and we have the senate saying “we don’t give a fuck, we aren’t going to be impartial, we are going to acquit no matter what our dem president did. Half of these forums would be doing the same thing the left wings are doing right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Now is it a legitimate concern? I believe so...
The senate is conducting a trial, are they not? Imagine the jury at any other trial said what the senate has said?
Imagine it was your trial and someone did shit to you, and the jury said we don’t care what the defended did, he’s innocent we don’t want to hear any of your witness or listen to any of your evidence. You’d be like why the fuck as well.
But after all that, it shouldn’t even be at this point. Trump shouldn’t be impeached. It’s the hard left wings that are driving this waste of time, energy and money.
My only concern is, why is trump refusing to let WH staff testify? Because he feels the house is doing a witch hunt? Fair enough, but if he’s done nothing wrong, and he’s innocent, wouldn’t you want these people to come forward and testify this? Him refusing this, no matter the reason, to me... shows some level of guilt. Let them testify in the senate, it’s controlled by the republicans. I’m just confused why an INNOCENT man, won’t let people testify under oath.
Can you give me a legitimate reason why an innocent man won’t let his staff testify to clear his name? I mean testify in public hearings by both parties.
I mean if you accused me of a crime, no matter how crazy and stupid I think it is, and I have people that can testify that I did nothing wrong... what reason would I have to refuse to let them speak up? It’s like I just scream “i did nothing wrong this is a sham and wont let the people who might know what really happened talk to anyone!” I don’t quite understand the logic of this
After the way the House ran their "inquiry" can you blame them? Everyone with an IQ over 40 knows this whole thing is nothing but a butthurt fueled waste of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
I don’t at all, my previous post to that, mentioned that the investigation was bullshit on how it was runQuote:
Originally Posted by Methais
You literally just said the reason... "Trump shouldn't be impeached. It's the hard left wings that are driving this waste of time, energy and money"Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
If Trump agrees to testify.. he is giving legitimacy to this bullshit political witch hunt.
But you never answered my question: What legitimate reason is Nancy Pelosi holding onto the Articles of Impeachment? You said yourself that she literally holds 0 power on the Senate proceedings.. so she literally has nothing, absolutely nothing to barter or negotiate with. McConnell has told her this on several occasions.
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Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Yes, he shouldn’t have been impeached, but he has been, so that’s a moot point. What shouldn’t have happened, happened... that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done properly, yes I know the house already fucked it up, but that doesn’t give the senate the right to do the same imo. The senate has the chance to do the right thing, have an impartial trial and then vote... I know everyone can’t be impartial... but to just openly say at the start, we don’t care, we are going to acquit and we don’t want to hear anything... is wrong imo
I answered your question is my previous post. I believe not having an impartial trial and senators already going on record about this... to me makes this a legitimate concern. What’s the point of passing along the articles, when no witnesses are going to be called and the outcome has already been decided?
Sadly this is the same shit that happened with Clinton.
Dems didn’t give a shit and just voted with party
A legitimate concern over something you've already said was not a legitimate procedure?Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
We've already read the transcript of the call in question... there's literally nothing to this. This is still Democrats who cannot fathom that their candidate lost an election and have repeatedly attempted to overturn an election result.
And given the clown show they have assembled to beat Trump... it's looking more and more likely that it'll be 4 more years of Trump.
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Originally Posted by Solkern
Why should anyone, even the Senate, take this seriously?
I'd like to see the Senate call all sorts of witnesses and expose all of the left's bullshit. I'm not expecting it to happen, but it's what should happen.
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Originally Posted by Methais
If that’s what happens, then that’s what happens, i would just like witnesses to be called, and an impartial trial!
Wait wait wait, I said the reason he was impeached I don’t agree with, the procedure I have no problem with (although I agree it was a little fucked up on how they did it, but they followed procedure and went by the book if I’m not mistaken, unless you can show me proof that they broke laws or procedures allowed to them for the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
This makes it sound like you are ok with someone being wrongfully sent to prison/executed as long as procedure was followed. And you have no problem with their clown show of a procedure? What? Clearly if we can have a President impeached over dumb things like this and like what happened with Clinton there is something wrong with the procedure. There should be something in place that they must prove the President acted in a manner that is harmful to the country, not just their hurt feelings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
That procedure is the Impeachment process and the subsequent trial by the Senate. The House and it's duly elected officials decide by majority to investigate and to ultimately file articles of impeachment. Hell, Darrell Issa investigated Obama for a possible quid pro quo and announced six months later they wouldn't proceed with impeachment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeril
The 3rd president in America's history to be impeached complained about the House investigations not being fair because he could not defend himself or call witnesses. Well, not only was that wrong, he totally could have done both of those things in the open hearings, now that the Senate trial is about to start, he has said he will try to stop witnesses from testifying. What a complete joke of a president. Its truly a special kind of stupid that makes it to the White House only to fuck it all up and go on trial to get thrown out.
Didn't I say the Democrats would come back around once the senate trial nears and now that Pelosi has finally said she will hand the articles of impeachment over the Democrats are back?
Do you guys ever get tired of being useful idiots for the Democratic party?
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Originally Posted by Parkbandit
If you say so. He never treated me with anything resembling decency and on more than a few occasions was a nasty shit. His politics sucked rocks and he supports some really evil people. That doesn't help support your good guy story.
Your tears are as sweet today as they were three years ago. You lost and you still haven't gotten over it. Please, carry on posting your colossal butthurt. It's awesome. Not as awesome as your president, Donald Trump, but close.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
"Thank you for deducting reputation from this (L)user."Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
You're quite welcome, PC.
A prophet you are not. I and I'm sure others, just got tired of you bloviating and figured we'd wait while you punched yourself drunk. Now that things are moving forward, it's relevant to post. Get over yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
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Originally Posted by Jeril
Yup, concur, but what I think is wrong, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done, plenty of Americans think what is happening is correct. All because I don’t agree with something doesn’t make it wrong. I think this way of thinking gets lost quite a bit. I may not agree with what’s happening, but if it’s done correctly and by proper procedure, then I respect the process of it.
That’s a problem in our country I believe, half the country almost will never agree with the other half. They have the thinking that what the left or right does is wrong no matter what.
Now if we take polls seriously (lol) then quite a few Americans think that he should be impeached.. while I don’t agree he should be impeached, but he has been. So I believe the senate should be impartial and not work for the president.
Oh is that what it was? Had nothing to do with the Democrats lying to you that Trump was going to get us into another war so you had to post every 2 seconds about what a war monger Trump is? Then when Iran bombed Iraq you had to blame the bombing on Trump? Then when Iran murdered 180 innocent people you all suddenly disappeared for several days only to reappear shortly after Pelosi said she would hand over the articles of impeachment?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Look if you want to fool yourself with this bullshit have at it, but leave the rest of us out of your fantasies.
Shouldn't that be the biggest issue here? What's being done has no basis in fact or reality. It's just peoples thoughts and opinions. Saddest thing is I doubt there is some way to punish the House for wasting all that time and money because bigger idiots voted them into office and don't care about that as long as they can cry about Trump together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Impartial politics? Do you know what politics are? Especially when you involve a voting population? May as well ask them to fly you to the moon tomorrow.
I know what I want, isn’t practical at all... I know the possibility of having impartial politics is a fantasy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeril
Yes it should be a big issue, but what trump has done for half the country is also a big issue in their views, and the gov’t works for the will of the people... although that Will is sometimes skewered... but that doesn’t make it any less of an issue.
There is a way... vote them out next election... it’s the only way.
You still believe that Trump will be thrown out of office?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Speaking of a special kind of stupid....
I say so also, and I was pretty opposite his political views. He walked what he talked about, even if he was a silver spoon kid. Him being wrong doesn't make him a bad dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
Getting as far as going to trial in the Senate is all I said which is happening and about as close as you can get to being thrown out of office before being thrown out of office. GG Trump. He fucked up at the highest executive position in America.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
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Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
I think my sister is a whacknut lunatic because of her politics.. but that doesn't make me love her less.
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Originally Posted by Back
Literally, you quoted my post which quoted your stupidity. Here it is again. I felt the need to enlarge it, bold it, italics it, underline it and draw it in a pretty color so you aren't confused... but I kept getting an error so I didn't.. but the really stupid part was where you said "to get thrown out".
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Originally Posted by Back
Just like in real life.. if you simply didn't speak.. people might not know you are the dumbest person in the room.
You should try it.
Keep playing semantic games. The fact remains. Trump is as close as you can get to being thrown out of office by Congress. Have a great day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
It's not a semantic game when you literally type it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
But, I'll just chalk it up to you being bad at the English language... just like everything else.
Have a terrible day.
You're an idiot. I haven't posted at all about the President being a warmonger and before you use your usual cop out of "referring to Democrats in general" you said you, not your party in that sentence. People like you who make shit up, post sensationalist crap until you're called out, you're why this country is so partisan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
No, because this happens pretty much every time. As soon as democrats put out new marching orders, you tards, especially BacKKKlash, start posting again tarding everything up. Then after whatever bullshit democrats were up to blows over and/or gets pwned for being full of shit, you tards disappear again until the next democrat manufactured scandal + marching orders surface, and the cycle of fail repeats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that you didn't watch any of the hearings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
The Americans "who thinks what's happening is correct" are only doing so either out of butthurt because they didn't get their way in 2016 and still can't get over it, and/or from being extremely dumb and gullible and taking everything the leftist butthurt media says as gospel even after it gets debunked, i.e. tards like BacKKKlash and Seran, and if it were the exact same scenario but with Obama as president, they'd be screaming 24/7 about how unfair this is to Obama, and probably blaming it on him being black because identity politics.
TLDR: People like BacKKKlash are extremely stupid, gullible, and dishonest.
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You are correct sir, I haven’t watched any.
Good lord. This is the best defense Trump and his brainwashed loyalists have? UR BUTTHURT BOO HOO!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Trump bribed Ukraine with Congressionally approved tax payer funded money meant to help Ukraine fight Russia in the interest of their, NATOs, and American security, to smear his biggest political rival in the 2020 presidential election.
You may not think thats wrong, fine, but he did do it, and lots of people think it is a horrible abuse of the powers of the presidency for personal gain.
and right on queue...TLDR: People like BacKKKlash are extremely stupid, gullible, and dishonest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Well, I do have friends that work in the Ukrainian and Russian gov’t who also will say 100% what backlash has just posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
These are close friends who I’ve known for 7-10 years. Not sure why they would lie about it.
Edited: they also don’t think it’s wrong, just a typical Tuesday in politics
Ooh I can’t wait for the impeachment to begin! I hope it’s on during the afternoon, so it’s prime time hours for me! Got my popcorn ready! Gonna watch this shit on the big screen TV!
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Originally Posted by Back
I don't disagree. It's how governments operate. We ask for things, and we condition the asks. Every President in American history has done it. Only Backrash thinks it's unusual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Back doesn't believe anything unless it's what someone else tells him to believe. He doesn't have his own actual thoughts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
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Originally Posted by Methais
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Originally Posted by Back
The best part is how any of these idiots think Trump needed Ukraine or literally anyone else on the planet at all to make Biden look bad when Biden does an excellent job of doing it himself every time he's speaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeril
Honestly trump is bad too, not sure who’s worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Not really. Trump has done a lot of good shit. The media hates him though because 90% of the media consist of butthurt fringe leftists and extreme retards like BacKKKlash who have no capability of independent thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Biden would be a complete disaster for the country. Trump has the economy kicking ass all day long, unemployment is at record lows among all groups including all these minorities that the media tells you are too stupid to fend for themselves, etc.
Didn't you mention in an earlier post today how you basically have no idea what's going on in America?
Just remember, Back is also the guy that said, "without guns there would be no wars" at one point.Quote:
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I was referring to his speaking skills :)
Your opinion means nothing. Worry about your own shitty country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Didn’t know America is a shitty country!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
This is how radicalized people want to cover for Trump being an awful president. Its a weird combination of denial and projection. When someone is incompetent its not a grand conspiracy to come out and say it. It may seem like insanity to a blind loyalist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Any normal person with a brain can see he's winging it, has no management skills, has zero diplomacy skills, is egotistical and very very sensitive, and a total liar. He got a pretty good economy handed off to him so he has not fucked that up, true, but his decisions are all suspect to the point his own people have been resigning or leaking their discomfort with his decisions.
The only thing he's done that I approve of is approving the Space Force. It was in the works before he took office but happy to see it none the less. While I don't think we should turn space into a battlefield it is worth doing to set up structure for our eventual move towards other worlds.
Actually there was one other thing but I can't remember it at the moment.
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Originally Posted by Back
Meh, I’m not republican, nor a blind loyalist, I lean left. But yeah... he does wing it, golfs way too much, and talks like an idiot, and he’s made his fair share of fuck ups, but don’t all presidents fuck up? And I don’t think he’s doing an awful job at all. Economy is doing great, employment is at a 50 year low(I think that’s right) he killed two fucking terrorist. All in all, damn fine job!
Would be a great job if Mexico would pay for that wall :D
The main problem with Trump is his whipping up racial tensions and fears to get voters. His language about immigrants being rapists and murderers, his saying there were good people on both sides of the biggest white supremacist rally in recent years where an innocent protester was murdered, his calling countries with dark people "shit hole" countries while lamenting on why more scandinavians don't immigrate, his muslim ban, his painting American congresspeople as traitors to the country and telling them to go back to where they came from, his constant stream of hatred at his rallies and on twitter. Thats just off the top of my head. I've said it before. A good economy is not worth it when our president is a racist asshole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
It's like all you read is CNN...literally everything you typed has been twisted to make it look like that. You'd have to be a complete fucking retar....oh hi Back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
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Originally Posted by Ashlander
I see Backrash the short dicked pedophile has gone full retard again. It's like he's full retard and a pedophile.
YAWN
Who set Back off?
So that's the only thing that differentiates you from the other Democrats in what I posted, you didn't specifically call Trump a warmonger?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
You sure showed me!
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Originally Posted by Tgo01
How does it feel to be put in your place?
I guess you missed the part of the hearings when even the witnesses with the worst case of TDS admitted that Obama gave Ukraine a bunch of blankets while Trump gave Ukraine a lot of lethal aid, which is something everyone agreed they needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
But I get it, they don't discuss that shit on CNN and MSNBC so you probably missed it.
I'm just happy they're releasing parnas tapes today.
It makes absolutely no difference what was used for the bribe. It was the bribe itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Trump's drug dealers and rapists comment was aimed at illegal aliens illegally crossing the border.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Why do you willingly be lied to by the "news" you consume, Back? Why?
Didn't realize Back is currently having a melt down.
I didn't mean to interrupt your melt down with attempting a logical discussion, Back. Please, let the melt down continue.
Not all "illegal" immigrants are rapists and murderers. Not even 1%. But bigots like you hear that from Trump, believe it, associate all immigrants coming from our southern border are all rapists and murderers when 99% of them are either trying to escape bad situations or are people looking for a better life for themselves and their families.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
I bet the middle school closed early for weather today, so Backrash has nowhere to go and watch children, so he's at home melting down.
You're right, but doesn't it feel good to finally admit you've been lied to all these years when people told you Trump was talking about all Mexicans when he said that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
My family has 4 legal immigrants from Peru. They think people like you are the bigots. They worked hard to legally immigrate here. Their family had a REAL reason to claim persecution, yet they didn't. They all respected the process, they all got their papers without marrying anyone, going through the process. You are the bigot who is minimizing their trust and effort they put into the process. You stupid motherfucker who NO ONE likes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
It takes NO effort at all to realize there is a process to LEGALLY immigrate to the US. It's not easy, and I'd agree needs to let more in annually. But that doesn't matter. It is against the law to bumrush our borders. They are ALL, 100% criminals for that fact alone. You cannot change that in any way.
Try to remember what we are discussing here.
My issue with Trump is his intentionally playing to the fears of his base with factually incorrect rhetoric while stoking racial tensions.
The actual issue of immigration and how we handle it is another issue. One I also disagree with this administration and the previous administration as well. In fact, Bush Jr was more in line with my views on it.
First off, drawing a line on the ground and calling that a border is a man made construct. The laws governing society are man made constructs. Both of which change as times change. The purposes of these things are meant to provide a guideline to order. When the order is broken there are guidelines for how to deal with it. Broken laws require steps to charge, try, and adjudicate. Different laws have different severities and punishments typically are balanced by that.
While there may be a "law" about crossing a "border" as being illegal the severity of breaking that law is minuscule especially when you consider there are women and children among them just trying to get to a better life. The punishment for that is to scale of the crime.
Trump has used his rhetoric to get votes and in the process knowingly insinuated that ALL of them are murderers or rapists or something similar which is not truthful. It misrepresents more good people than paints an accurate portrait of them and he knows this. But he does it because he knows people are scared and will vote for him if he keeps them scared then promises to keep them safe.
That rhetoric then spreads from not just "illegal immigrants" but Mexicans and brown people and then some whack job shoots up a Walmart.
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Originally Posted by Back
I love it when he proves my point for me.Quote:
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Somber and sad time in our nation's history that no one in the House actually wants my ass. What a worthless hag.
Oh yeah let's not forget the spectacle that Democrats made of actually delivering the articles to the Senate.
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Are they for real?
I thought handing over the articles of impeachment was more symbolic, like "Hey here is why we are impeaching the president." I didn't think they literally hand delivered the articles.
And even if that's how it works does it really take 9 people to walk the articles over and oh let's be sure we tell everyone exactly what time it happens so we can have cameras rolling while we all look like we are handing over secret orders that will end the war 2 years sooner and save millions of lives?
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Originally Posted by Tgo01
Hey, I thought what they did was extremely powerful, and sent a strong message that, we the people have had enough.
/end sarcasm
On a serious note, glad it’s moving forward, so it can end sooner
Feel free to run someone who can beat him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Oh wait, you can't because your party is the biggest clown show on the planet right now. Much like how you're the biggest retard in PC history.
Thanks Obama for giving us Trump.
I'd explain why you're so fucking stupid in regards to these things specifically, but it's already been done and you were too stupid to get it then, and each day you wake up you're dumber than you were the day before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
So instead, you can have this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgZY6h-Z8-4
Dude, any one of the democrats are more qualified than Trump. My grandma is more qualified. Heck, grandma Methais is more qualified.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
As for beating him, it does not matter who the candidate is, after what we saw in 2018, expect that blue tsunami to wash the republican red tide away.
Quoting this to send back to you in November.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Trump to date: Best economy in history. Lowest unemployment since WWII. China deal signed. Undid virtually everything Obama. Defeated every single attack from liberal idiots. Will defeat the impeachment in the Senate. Kills terrorists. Stands up to foreign powers. Loved by millions. 2 SCOTUS noms, likely 2 more to come. As many circuit court appointees as Obama in 8 years (thank you lying Harry Reid!). Daily triggers people like you.
5 more years otw. Thanks Obama and liberal snowflakes.
CSPAN 2 will have the Senate setting up the trial with Chief Justice Roberts and others getting sworn in today.
When I think more about how Trump has tried to defame Joe, who has lost three immediate family members, by politically attacking his last surviving son, it just reaffirms how shitty and dumb Trump is.
You didn't think, that's for sure. All articles are hand delivered to the Senate, as are all bills going to the Whitehouse. If you're butthurt the articles of impeachment were walked by procession onto the floor of the Senate, I'd remind you that the Impeachment Managers on the Clinton impeachment also accompanied the bill being delivered to the secretary of the Senate. The only difference being Senate was not in session when Clinton's were delivered, so there was no opportunity to announce them on the floor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
On a completely unrelated note, what's your opinion on Biden's blatant QPQ and then bragging about it? What are your specific thoughts on Biden threatening to withhold money from Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor? The prosecutor who was conveniently investigating the company that Biden's useless son "worked" for? Asking for a friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Please advise.
If he melts down hard enough maybe he'll start posing on Chillmonster again while claiming he's totally not BacKKKlash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
But mommy! They started it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I’m just taking you at your word that everything you said is true. Did Republicans also require 9 people to carry the articles over and have hundreds of cameras setup to record it after the speaker used literally dozens of pens to sign the articles so he could hand them out as souvenirs all while laughing and smiling and posing for selfies?
Because everyone was just fine with it at the time? Because everyone agreed, Eurpoe as well, that they needed to get rid of that corrupt prosecutor for the good of a democratic and independent Ukraine? In fact, that prosecutor was considered corrupt because he would not follow through with his corruption investigations that allowed corruption to flourish. He was actually not investigating Burisma at the time this happened. He had investigated Burisma and found nothing wrong before he was fired.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
This all boils down to Joe is a great guy, a good guy, an American people can be proud of and Trump's an entitled spoiled snowflake crook.
Virtually all of Germany was ok when they were Nazi's. So, must be all good using that logic, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Dumbfuck.
The leftist media's interpretation:Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
How normal people interpreted it:Quote:
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best," he said then. "They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
Grammar is important.Quote:
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best," he said then. "They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, their rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
Almost as important as honesty.
Which the media is not.
And neither are you.
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Originally Posted by Methais
Yeah it’s common info in both Ukraine and Russia that he was corrupt himself and not actually looking into any corruption at all.
Also my friends in Ukraine said, the prosecutor found loads of corruption in many many business but refused to do anything about it as he was supposedly being paid off not to do anything. The majority of Ukrainians wanted him gone, along with quite a few Ukrainian politicians.
From my understanding, Biden was just the man delivering the message for a large international push to get rid of the prosecutor, that wasn’t doing his job.
Back is going to be busy preparing all weekend for ultra virtue signaling on Monday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Its more an issue of comprehension which you lack. He states they are criminals, that he assumes SOME of them are good people, while we know that incidents of crime among illegal immigrants are lower than citizens and that there are more actual benefits to illegal immigrants than there are negatives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
What exactly are the benefits to having illegal immigrants?
Only illegal benefits, by having cheap undocumented labour. Which if you defend that, you are an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Workers for jobs, tax revenue both state and federal, and lower crime rates in areas with the most illegal immigrants.Quote:
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There are no taxes being paid for undocumented workers working for cash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
If they are illegal I guarantee you they are not paying taxes. Illegals cost the state more than they gain back.
You need to put the lens on the businesses that knowingly hire them if that is your issue. Can't blame someone for taking a job for money. At least they aren't trying to get a handout.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sile
But they end up using wrong SS numbers which means they pay taxes that never get collected which is good for the government both local and federal and good for Social Security.
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Originally Posted by Back
It’s a problem with both, not just the business and not just the illegal immigrant. It’s both their faults
There is no way the majority of the Illegals are using stolen Social Security numbers, I love how you keep doing mental gymnastics to justify breaking the law.Quote:
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My issue with Trump is I'm so stupid that I buy into the media intentionally playing to the fears of my base with factually incorrect rhetoric while stoking racial tensions. And not just that, but literally everything else they say about him, and I believe it 100% and never question any of it because it makes me feel good. And with as pathetic as my life is, I really need that to help me get through the day without slashing my wrists.
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The actual issue of immigration and how we handle it is another issue. One I also disagree with this administration and the previous administration as well. In fact, Bush Jr was more in line with my views on it.
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While there may be a "law" about crossing a "border" as being illegal the severity of breaking that law is minuscule especially when you consider there are women and children among them just trying to get to a better life. As for the women and children in the US who are victims of the worst of these illegal immigrants, often involving rape and murder, well fuck them because I need a way to make myself feel superior and righteous, and this is all I got, so those people don't count and shouldn't be part of this conversation because it would make me look stupid if we had an honest conversation about all of this.
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The media has used this rhetoric to get votes and in the process convinced idiots like me that Trump insinuated that ALL of them are murderers or rapists or something similar which is not truthful. But I'm stupid and gullible and I hate Trump so I'm going to roll with it anyway because I need this narrative in my life. It misrepresents more good people than paints an accurate portrait of them and I know this. But the media does it because they know people like me are really fucking dumb and will vote against him if they keep us scared and offer us free stuff.
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That rhetoric then spreads from not just "illegal immigrants" but Mexicans and brown people and anyone who's not a straight white leftist male then some whack job shoots up a Walmart on the same day that some triggered Bernie supporter shot up some place in Ohio, but the Ohio shooting doesn't fit my narrative either so we'll pretend that didn't happen so that it looks like only right wing nutjobs exist and left wing crazies don't, because I'm incapable of independent thought or actual honesty and my god somebody please put me out of my misery because I'm a failure at life.
Wouldn’t workers only be necessary if the unemployment rate were 0 or they were getting jobs that required a lot of education like a doctor? And I am confident that doctors aren’t illegally crossing the border.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Also shut the fuck with your dumb add arguments that crime rates go down because of illegal aliens. You are the biggest piece of shit ever.
Don't forget he has literally no statistics to back up either claim.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
You know how I know? Because there aren't any. Both things he stated are crimes. I guess we should look at crime statistics, but then he misinterprets those also.
You forgot how colossally stupid he is. There is literally not a more retarded person on this board. Nor a more disliked person on this board. Nor a bigger pedophile than he is. He is the scum of pond scum, the lowest of the low. He brings nothing to society, this board, or anyone else. He only comes here because he can virtue signal and lie about what a great person he thinks he is, because IRL no one believes it. He started a blog, from 5 years ago, where he states he donated money to some org in Arizona. Because, him posting it makes it real in his fevered mind.
There is no one as stupid, willfully ignorant as Backrash the short dicked pedophile. No one even comes close.
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Also pretty sure like 90% of the crime done within the illegal immigrant communities is largely unreported.
Check this out directly from the Social Security Adminstration...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sile
There is more interesting information at this link.Quote:
Question: What is the dollar amount of payrolltaxes paid by unauthorized workers and theiremployers for the latest tax year?
Response: We estimate $13 billion in OASDI payroll taxes from unauthorized immigrant workersand their employers in 2010. This number reflectsearnings for those with no recorded SSN, thosewho have obtained an SSN with fraudulent identification, and those with legitimate SSNs who haveoverstayed temporary visas.
https://www.ssa.gov/oact/NOTES/pdf_notes/note151.pdf
I like how you make it sound like it's some innocent error, like they wrote down a wrong digit when filling out their stolen SSN info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
You're a fucking moron. :lol:
Yes indeed check this out. Over 10 million people illegally working in this country and of that an estimated 1 million are paying into social security and this is somehow a net positive for the social security fund. You know what would be an even bigger net positive for the social security fund? If those 10 million jobs went to American citizens who ALL paid taxes.Quote:
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How proud you are that a government ran pyramid scheme, which would land anyone else in prison, is being supported by slave labor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Everything about this is really fucking bad.
The qualifications to becoming the US President are as follows:Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
1) Must be a natural born citizen.
2) Must be older than 35 years of age.
3) Must have resided in the US for the past 14 years.
Specifically, how are any of the Democrats more qualified than President Trump to become President?
Stop proving you are the champion everytime you post. We know.
Oh Hunter Biden... he's the victim here!Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
He's lead such a clean and honest life.. he doesn't deserve this!!!
Which is like modern day slavery.Quote:
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Which if you defend that, you are an idiot.
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Yes, yes, 15 Impeachment managers, and the pens were handed out to every Senator as they swore in. So yes too all, except Republicans had a much bigger escort on cameraQuote:
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A pyramid scheme so your grandparents don't live in a cardboard box and have to eat cat food.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Oh? SS does that? Interesting. How much do you think a maxxed out contributor to SS will get from SS beginning at 67?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I'm make it easier for you. How much of a person's income should SS be once they retire. I'll give you a hint, it's on the SS admin website. Second hint, it's less than 50%.
You don't think someone could stay off the street making $3,011 from SSA retirement? I sure as shit could, but social security wasn't meant to put everyone in a Mercedes Benz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Even for someone who never contributed in California can still receive $951 per month. With rent assistance or Section 8 housing, that's enough to live on
Social Security was meant as a safety net for people that didn't save, retire with a pension, or invest in a 401k. It isn't meant to be something you are entirely living off of, but you can eek by if necessary.
3,011 is maxed out, retiring at 67? so you work ostensibly from let's say 27, for 40 years, maxing out your contributions, and you get a whole $3k a month. That, if you have other sources of income like a 401K or an annuity or anything really, will likely get taxed again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
No, I could not live off 3K a month and maintain my lifestyle. Which is why I have all the other things, like every responsible American should.
Do you think you could live off $3,011 by the time you are actually getting SS? I would bet with inflation in the 20-30 years until you start to collect SS that that would barely cover rent unless you live in a cockroach infested shit hole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
That 3K figure is "full benefits" at 67. That's if you are making about 115K a year. Median average income for a family of 4? $81K. Oh, you also need to have earned the 40 credits, or essentially 10 years of working and earning money.
They are not getting the 3K
Ah, so what we have here is a bunch of folks who want to shit all over Social Security, because they can't imagine stooping down to live anything other than a lavish lifestyle. I understand now. Most Americans don't have a silver spoon up their ass, or an annuity from some well being parent to afford hookers and blow.
Yes, it is perfectly reasonable to expect someone to live off of $3k a month, which is enough to pay a mortgage payment on a $250,000 mortgage at market rate and be able to afford household costs and incidentals.
rofl what? Saving money for retirement over the course of 30 years isn't a "silver spoon up their ass", it is called retirement planning. People who aren't fucking retards do it.Quote:
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Social Security was never meant to be the sole source of income during retirement. But facts like that seem to escape people like you.Quote:
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Neither set of my grandparents needed to use social security.Quote:
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You might be projecting your own real life situation here.
Careful... you're entering into Backlash territory with this stupidity.Quote:
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I was given 750 bucks when I turned 18. That’s the grand total I’ve been given as an adult from anyone. That’s a silver spoon? I worked for 30 years, at school and after, have no debt, own my house, a million in assets. The American Dream, all because I worked hard.Quote:
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even SS admin says SS is not a living, it’s forced savings because of people don’t know how to save a dime. Is that society or the governments fault? Go back to projecting.
I couldn't find a video of the Clinton impeachment articles being handed over where they showed the entire 5 minute walk it took for them to physically walk to the Senate.Quote:
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Also the pens handed out to each senator was for when they were signing their own name when they pledged to be impartial. Surely even you can see that's not quite the same as Pelosi signing the articles with dozens of pens and handing them out to Democrats like they were souvenirs.
And lastly I couldn't find any pictures or videos at all of the Speaker of the House handing out the pens he used to sign the articles with all while smiling and laughing and then posing for selfies with the people holding their pens.
I'll assume though you have actually seen all of this and aren't going by some bullshit left leaning rag you read an article from online.