Presidential Debates 2024

[ClydeR]

Washington CNN — President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump have both accepted an invitation from CNN to debate on June 27, a historically early showdown that will set the tone for the final months of the 2024 campaign.

More... (https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/15/politics/joe-biden-debate/index.html)


Later Wednesday morning, both men said they had accepted an invitation from ABC to hold a second debate on September 10.


According to a news release from CNN, the debate will be held in the network’s Atlanta studios with no audience present – an anomaly in debates between presidential candidates.

Missing from the above linked article is the important detail that microphones will be cut off when it is not the candidate's turn to speak. If you remember from 2020, Trump kept interrupting when it was not his turn.






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-xTJ0swS2k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-xTJ0swS2k

[Seran]

Question is, will Trump be able to appear from Rikers Island?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNoS-oXWwAAGoZX.png

[Methais]

Question is, will Trump be able to appear from Rikers Island?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNoS-oXWwAAGoZX.png

This is the most soy post of the week.

[Parkbandit]

This is the most soy post of the week.

sErAn wishes he was Biden in that pic.

[Methais]

sErAn wishes he was Biden in that pic.

He wishes even more he was Biden in the *shower with Ashley.

When she was a little kid of course. Because Seran.

*Not to actually bathe, but because Seran is a pedo.

[Parkbandit]

He wishes even more he was Biden in the *shower with Ashley.

When she was a little kid of course. Because Seran.

*Not to actually bathe, but because Seran is a pedo.

There are a few things that aren't very plausible here:

1) sErAn is suffering (and more so his parents) from aquaphobia, which is why he never bathes.
2) There is nothing in his 20 year posting history that leads you to believe he would want anything to do with a female (defined in the traditional sense)

[ClydeR]

We're getting excited about something that may never happen. Trump is unlikely to show up at the debates.

Trump said he would "absolutely" testify in his current criminal case. I predict he will take the Fifth in that case, which is the absolute opposite of what he said he would do. When it comes to the debates, he will find an excuse to back out. All hat, no cattle.

[Seran]

His answer to every question will likely be about Hannibal Lector being his best friend and a great American patriot, so yeah, I'm sure his advisors will want him to skip.

[Methais]

We're getting excited about something that may never happen. Trump is unlikely to show up at the debates.

Trump said he would "absolutely" testify in his current criminal case. I predict he will take the Fifth in that case, which is the absolute opposite of what he said he would do. When it comes to the debates, he will find an excuse to back out. All hat, no cattle.

Cope harder loser.

Get a job too.

[Parkbandit]

We're getting excited about something that may never happen. Trump is unlikely to show up at the debates.

Trump said he would "absolutely" testify in his current criminal case. I predict he will take the Fifth in that case, which is the absolute opposite of what he said he would do. When it comes to the debates, he will find an excuse to back out. All hat, no cattle.

Why would he not show up to the debates? Even though Biden made them perfect for his slow style.. Trump will mop the floor with him and the DNC moderators that he hand selected.

[ClydeR]

Trump is already inventing an excuse to back out of the debates with Biden.

After vowing (https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/donald-trump-campaign-dinner-minnesota-barron-graduation/) in 2020 never to set foot in Minnesota again, Trump went there Friday evening and said he would demand that Biden take a drug test (https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4672061-donald-trump-demands-drug-test-for-joe-biden-ahead-debate/) before the debate. Trump's point was that nobody could give a State of the Union Address as good as Biden's address earlier this year without the assistance of performance enhancing drugs.

Remember a different kind of test for the last debates? In 2020, the Commission on Presidential Debates rules required each candidate to test negative for COVID on the day of the debate. Trump lied and said he had tested negative. In fact, he had not taken a test, and if he had it would not have been negative. Then after Trump was hospitalized with COVID and appeared to recover, the Commission announced that the next debate would have to be virtual, instead of in person. Trump angrily backed out and refused to participate because it would not be held in person with a live audience.

Trump dropped 5 points in the polls after the first debate in 2020 and never recovered.

[Suppressed Poet]

Trump is already inventing an excuse to back out of the debates with Biden.

After vowing (https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/donald-trump-campaign-dinner-minnesota-barron-graduation/) in 2020 never to set foot in Minnesota again, Trump went there Friday evening and said he would demand that Biden take a drug test (https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4672061-donald-trump-demands-drug-test-for-joe-biden-ahead-debate/) before the debate. Trump's point was that nobody could give a State of the Union Address as good as Biden's address earlier this year without the assistance of performance enhancing drugs.

Remember a different kind of test for the last debates? In 2020, the Commission on Presidential Debates rules required each candidate to test negative for COVID on the day of the debate. Trump lied and said he had tested negative. In fact, he had not taken a test, and if he had it would not have been negative. Then after Trump was hospitalized with COVID and appeared to recover, the Commission announced that the next debate would have to be virtual, instead of in person. Trump angrily backed out and refused to participate because it would not be held in person with a live audience.

Trump dropped 5 points in the polls after the first debate in 2020 and never recovered.

Cry more, loser.

[Seran]

Trump is already inventing an excuse to back out of the debates with Biden.

After vowing (https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/donald-trump-campaign-dinner-minnesota-barron-graduation/) in 2020 never to set foot in Minnesota again, Trump went there Friday evening and said he would demand that Biden take a drug test (https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4672061-donald-trump-demands-drug-test-for-joe-biden-ahead-debate/) before the debate. Trump's point was that nobody could give a State of the Union Address as good as Biden's address earlier this year without the assistance of performance enhancing drugs.

Remember a different kind of test for the last debates? In 2020, the Commission on Presidential Debates rules required each candidate to test negative for COVID on the day of the debate. Trump lied and said he had tested negative. In fact, he had not taken a test, and if he had it would not have been negative. Then after Trump was hospitalized with COVID and appeared to recover, the Commission announced that the next debate would have to be virtual, instead of in person. Trump angrily backed out and refused to participate because it would not be held in person with a live audience.

Trump dropped 5 points in the polls after the first debate in 2020 and never recovered.

Does this surprise you? He got absolutely WOMPED by Biden in the debates in 2020 and lost handily as a result. His speeches this year have been riddled with incomprehensible slurring, eye drooping, feet dragging, and just the other day nearly falling over when he was unable to keep himself upright. Not to mention being unable to stay awake during the day. Trump will need to lower expectations to a point where showing up, no matter the dumpster fire of his performance, will be a technical win.

[Parkbandit]

Does this surprise you? He got absolutely WOMPED by Biden in the debates in 2020 and lost handily as a result.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/Q7ozWVYCR0nyW2rvPW/200w.gif

[~Rocktar~]

Does this surprise you? He got absolutely WOMPED by Biden in the debates in 2020 and lost handily as a result.

According to who? Which polls? What was their polling method? Was their sample reflective of the population?

Now that Georgia has gotten rid of loads ofdrop boxes and the fact that large numbers of votes have been determined to be illegal for a few different reasons, AND the majority of people in Georgia are embarrassed as FUCK by Fani Willis and her sexploits as well as the sham trial, I sure hope you aren't counting on Georgia.

[Solkern]

According to who? Which polls? What was their polling method? Was their sample reflective of the population?

Now that Georgia has gotten rid of loads ofdrop boxes and the fact that large numbers of votes have been determined to be illegal for a few different reasons, AND the majority of people in Georgia are embarrassed as FUCK by Fani Willis and her sexploits as well as the sham trial, I sure hope you aren't counting on Georgia.

Can you share a link where “a large number of votes have been determined to be illegal”?

[Methais]

Trump is already inventing an excuse to back out of the debates with Biden.

After vowing (https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/donald-trump-campaign-dinner-minnesota-barron-graduation/) in 2020 never to set foot in Minnesota again, Trump went there Friday evening and said he would demand that Biden take a drug test (https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4672061-donald-trump-demands-drug-test-for-joe-biden-ahead-debate/) before the debate. Trump's point was that nobody could give a State of the Union Address as good as Biden's address earlier this year without the assistance of performance enhancing drugs.

Remember a different kind of test for the last debates? In 2020, the Commission on Presidential Debates rules required each candidate to test negative for COVID on the day of the debate. Trump lied and said he had tested negative. In fact, he had not taken a test, and if he had it would not have been negative. Then after Trump was hospitalized with COVID and appeared to recover, the Commission announced that the next debate would have to be virtual, instead of in person. Trump angrily backed out and refused to participate because it would not be held in person with a live audience.

Trump dropped 5 points in the polls after the first debate in 2020 and never recovered.

You're stupid and retarded.

[Suppressed Poet]

Here is a sneak preview of the debate hosted by CNN:


https://youtu.be/F_GUsUzjiow?si=JnT8jn4B8j_HsMqz

[Methais]

Here is a sneak preview of the debate hosted by CNN:


https://youtu.be/F_GUsUzjiow?si=JnT8jn4B8j_HsMqz

This is correct.

[ClydeR]

They had the coin flip for the debate next week. The winner of the coin flip got to pick between choosing (a) which side of the stage to be on or (b) whether to go first or last at the end of the debate.

Biden won the coin toss. He used the win to choose which side of the stage to be on. Biden choose the right side of the teevee screen.

Trump then got to choose who would go last in the closing remarks at the end of the debate. Trump chose to go last.

Getting to go last seems more important to me than which side of the screen the candidate is on. Why did Biden place more importance on the side of the stage he would occupy?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/20/politics/cnn-debate-closing-statements-podiums/index.html

[Methais]

Getting to go last seems more important to me than which side of the screen the candidate is on. Why did Biden place more importance on the side of the stage he would occupy?

Probalby because he's retarded. Just like you, but topped with dementia.

I hope Trump decides to stand for the whole debate.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Biden chose not to be last because his shot will have worn off and he'll fall asleep.

[ClydeR]

I found an answer to my question..


That’s because, in a setting that involves two figures, viewers are inherently drawn to the right, experts say, which is where Biden will be displayed on millions of TV screens across the country. That positioning will likely earn Biden an extra chunk of eyeball time by default, assuming viewers can break away from Trump’s repeated antics and interruptions.

The extra attention to screens’ right is a phenomena that’s been cited as the reason nearly every late-night TV host, from Jimmy Fallon to Steve Allen, have been positioned to the right of their guests in each interview, and it’s likely why Biden’s camp prioritized stage positioning over choosing the order of closing statements.

More... (https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-biden-chose-audiences-right-side-for-his-trump-debate)

[Seran]

I found an answer to my question..If Trump makes it past the first 10 minutes without shouting at Biden because of his unpowered microphone, or doesn't start gesticulating wildly for camera focus I would be amazed.

[Parkbandit]

I found an answer to my question..If you found your answer on the Daily Beast, you are asking retarded questions.

[Parkbandit]

All Biden has to do is not die on the debate stage.. or freeze up with no one to lead him away.. and the MSM will proclaim "BIDEN PERFORMED BETTER THAN EXPECTATIONS!"That's how far down the Democrats have tapped down expectations.

[~Rocktar~]

All Biden has to do is not die on the debate stage.. or freeze up with no one to lead him away.. and the MSM will proclaim "BIDEN PERFORMED BETTER THAN EXPECTATIONS!"That's how far down the Democrats have tapped down expectations.

Yep, this is true.

[Methais]

All Biden has to do is not die on the debate stage.. or freeze up with no one to lead him away.. and the MSM will proclaim "BIDEN PERFORMED BETTER THAN EXPECTATIONS!"That's how far down the Democrats have tapped down expectations.

And then Seran and ClydeR will mindlessly repeat it forever once the latest patch is uploaded to their loser NPC brains.

[~Rocktar~]

And then Seran and ClydeR will mindlessly repeat it forever once the latest patch is uploaded to their loser NPC brains.

There was a modern Dr Who episode about this kind of thing and amazingly enough, all the people that got their "upgrade" were then brain wiped, sort of and made into Cybermen. I wonder it Seran and ClydeR's cyberman bodies will come with "warning, defective brain" labels?

[ClydeR]

We're getting excited about something that may never happen. Trump is unlikely to show up at the debates.

Trump said he would "absolutely" testify in his current criminal case. I predict he will take the Fifth in that case, which is the absolute opposite of what he said he would do. When it comes to the debates, he will find an excuse to back out. All hat, no cattle.

Trump posted on social media a letter from Trump's former physician, Ronny "Candyman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronny_Jackson#:~:text=Jackson%20was%20known%20as%2 0%22the%20candy%20man%22%20at%20the%20White%20Hous e%2C%20according%20to%20around%2020%20people%20who %20brought%20these%20concerns%20to%20the%20Veteran s%27%20Affairs%20Senate%20Committee%2C%20because%2 0he%20allegedly%20handed%20out%20Ambien%2C%20Provi gil%2C%20and%20other%20prescription%20drugs%20%22l ike%20they%20were%20candy%22.)" Jackson, to the White House demanding that Biden take a drug test both before and after the debate. This could be the excuse Trump has been looking for.

[Parkbandit]

Trump posted on social media a letter from Trump's former physician, Ronny "Candyman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronny_Jackson#:~:text=Jackson%20was%20known%20as%2 0%22the%20candy%20man%22%20at%20the%20White%20Hous e%2C%20according%20to%20around%2020%20people%20who %20brought%20these%20concerns%20to%20the%20Veteran s%27%20Affairs%20Senate%20Committee%2C%20because%2 0he%20allegedly%20handed%20out%20Ambien%2C%20Provi gil%2C%20and%20other%20prescription%20drugs%20%22l ike%20they%20were%20candy%22.)" Jackson, to the White House demanding that Biden take a drug test both before and after the debate. This could be the excuse Trump has been looking for.

Never did find out who left all that cocaine in the White House.... ol Joe needs a little toot of the nose candy to feel alive.

[Methais]

I'm the Intercontinental Retard Champion. I hope to one day overtake Seran as the World Retard Champion. As you can see by my posts, I've been working very hard at this.

This is correct.

[ClydeR]

National polls have Biden and Trump tied (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/). Because the electoral college favors rural states that tend to vote Republican, Biden would need a substantial lead in national polls to get a victory in the electoral college. Trump can win the electoral college if he trails in the popular vote. You can see it in the numbers below. I'm surprised Trump wanted a debate.

2016 Election
Popular Vote - Clinton 48.2%, Trump 46.1%
Electoral Vote - Clinton 232, Trump 306 based on pledged electors

2020 Election
Popular Vote - Biden 51.3%, Trump 46.8%
Electoral Vote - Biden 306, Trump 232

[Parkbandit]

National polls have Biden and Trump tied (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/). Because the electoral college favors rural states that tend to vote Republican, Biden would need a substantial lead in national polls to get a victory in the electoral college. Trump can win the electoral college if he trails in the popular vote. You can see it in the numbers below. I'm surprised Trump wanted a debate.

2016 Election
Popular Vote - Clinton 48.2%, Trump 46.1%
Electoral Vote - Clinton 232, Trump 306 based on pledged electors

2020 Election
Popular Vote - Biden 51.3%, Trump 46.8%
Electoral Vote - Biden 306, Trump 232

The dumbest thing you can use to figure out the outcome of a Presidential election is to use a popular vote for the entire country.

That's not how elections are won/lost.

There are 5 battle ground states this election:

Wisconsin
Pennsylvania
Michigan
Arizona
Nevada

Let's look at those states:

Wisconsin: Tied https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/wisconsin/trump-vs-biden
Pennsylvania: Trump +3 https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/pennsylvania/trump-vs-biden
Michigan: Trump +.2 https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/michigan/trump-vs-biden
Arizona: Trump +5.6 https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/arizona/trump-vs-biden
Nevada: Trump +4 https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/nevada/trump-vs-biden

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Trump wants a debate because he can form a coherent sentence.

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/nwqh2t7.png


GEE I WONDER WHY THEY WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT :rofl:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCYdYGkfdsg

[Alfster]

Trump wants a debate because he can form a coherent sentence.Haha what? Sharks and batteries man. The dude is retarded these days.

Sent from my motorola one 5G ace using Tapatalk

[~Rocktar~]

Please don't die from this drinking game.

https://nypost.com/2024/06/26/us-news/first-2024-presidential-debate-drinking-game-trump-biden-face-off/

[Seran]

Wonder how many folks are going to claim they refuse to watch debates, but spend a day rattled by just how week a performance their preferred candidate gives tonight. May the cognitive dissonance commence.

[~Rocktar~]

Holy fuck Biden is weak, bumbling and muttering right out the gate.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

3 v 1 debate already.

[Methais]

In before Seran is like oMg BiDeN dEsTrOyEd trUmP!!!!!

[~Rocktar~]

Wow, it's elder abuse.

Biden won't be the nominee.

[Seran]

"He has the morals of an alley cat." -President Biden.

Lol

[~Rocktar~]

"He has the morals of an alley cat." -President Biden.

Lol

Got to give it to Biden, it's one of only 3 sentences actually in English.

[Seran]

I'll give it to Trump, he's very clear and legible telling the lies that he is. While Biden sounds like an old guy with a cold and stumbles over his words.

I'll vote for a old guy that stutters than an old felon that supports Nazis.

[~Rocktar~]

I'll give it to Trump, he's very clear and legible telling the lies that he is. While Biden sounds like an old guy with a cold and stumbles over his words.

I'll vote for a old guy that stutters than an old felon that supports Nazis.

Yeah, the fact checkers are counting Biden lying more.

Didn't support Nazis, that's been debunked more than the rumor of your intelligence.

[Neveragain]

By the way............................

https://i0.wp.com/media4.giphy.com/media/JSg8Rk04VVHJC/giphy.gif

[Anebriated]

Wow, it's elder abuse.

Biden won't be the nominee.

So the dems can name any candidate they want if they wait until after the convention in august?. The issue they will face is that they cant use any of the funds Biden raised for his campaign, so they'd have to start from scratch.

[Seran]

I get a kick out of Trump ignoring every single policy question being asked, he doesn't have a single answer. Instead he sits there and repeats the same falsehoods over and over again. Trump is absolutely getting destroyed on policy.

[Anebriated]

In before Seran is like oMg BiDeN dEsTrOyEd trUmP!!!!!



Trump is absolutely getting destroyed on policy.

Nostradamus over here...

[Neveragain]

I'll vote for a old guy that stutters than an old felon that supports Nazis.

"an old guy"

I'm assuming you meant to use "over" rather than "than"

You truly are retarded.

[Seran]

I take it back, Trump addressed the policy issue of stopping opium addictions and deaths, he said he bought a dog. A single dog to solve the entire opium crisis. Lol.

[Anebriated]

I take it back, Trump addressed the policy issue of stopping opium addictions and deaths, he said he bought a dog. A single dog to solve the entire opium crisis. Lol.

I bet that dog is yuge, the best dog in the world, better than anyone elses dog.

[Suppressed Poet]

Anyone else want to see this debate settled on the golf course?

[Furryrat]

Anyone else want to see this debate settled on the golf course?

I do! That's been a highlight of this mess for me so far.

[~Rocktar~]

Anyone else want to see this debate settled on the golf course?

It would be great except Biden would swing and fall over, possibly die in the process.

[Seran]

I wonder how a whiney felon will do in prison babbling about boat batteries and sharks.

[Methais]

I get a kick out of Trump ignoring every single policy question being asked, he doesn't have a single answer. Instead he sits there and repeats the same falsehoods over and over again. Trump is absolutely getting destroyed on policy.


In before Seran is like oMg BiDeN dEsTrOyEd trUmP!!!!!

https://media.tenor.com/4opamcAljRQAAAAd/laugh-smile.gif


Yeah Biden is just cleaning house, like he did here: https://x.com/ayeejuju/status/1806497513169637875

[~Rocktar~]

Wow, Biden couldn't even manage to get his pre-prepared closing statement out without getting mixed up and muttering.

[Suppressed Poet]

Now mainstream media has turned on Biden and Democrats finally want him to step aside. Color me unsurprised.

[~Rocktar~]

Just remember, this senile, dementia patient has nuclear codes.

And thanks to Biden, we pay more for the interest on the US debt than we do for the entirety of the US Military.

[Furryrat]

Taken directly from CNN:

Democrats are despairing over President Joe Biden’s debate performance Thursday night, a showing so halting some even privately raised questions about whether he should remain the party’s nominee.

Biden appeared onstage with a soft, halting voice and an open-mouthed, staring look. He struggled to finish thoughts at points, and ceded ground on issues like abortion where Democrats have an edge.

It took just minutes for Democrats to realize how bad it was becoming.

“Biden looks and sounds terrible. He’s incoherent,” one Democrat who spent time working in the Biden administration said.

“Horrific,” said another Democratic operative.

And one Democrat who’s worked on campaigns up and down the ballot said simply: “We are f***ed.”

The looming question as the debate came to a close was almost existential: Should someone else top the Democratic ticket?

“It’s hard to argue that Biden should be our nominee,” said an operative who’s worked on campaigns at all levels for over a decade.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/cnn-debate-trump-biden-06-27-24#h_895e5511ddbe0ea5ef0c65318aaf288e

[Seran]

*yawn* Narrative, Biden old, Trump Felon. Biden wins, again.

[~Rocktar~]

*yawn* Narrative, Biden old, Trump Felon. Biden wins, again.

Biden is out as the nominee.

https://www.huffpost.com

[Arqueto]

*yawn* Narrative, Biden old, Trump Felon. Biden wins, again.

If you think Biden won anything from that debate you're far more fucking stupid than anyone here has ever given you credit for.

[~Rocktar~]

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/441492778_3665665973682877_4046427116034471494_n.j pg?stp=dst-jpg_p843x403&_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=kr7I7D6LnmIQ7kNvgFLteva&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=00_AYDQCp81SISR6VfD6RMdOMNLo_1C2wt67CkA2gZoookp 4A&oe=668407DB

[~Rocktar~]

https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/441506620_3665679217014886_1236753754169020264_n.j pg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=s4Nkngm2NvUQ7kNvgFofRsZ&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-2.xx&oh=00_AYAnfaUJlAbap4goZkbTXsg5DYFXuxN9tyqg_IetWzTr Ww&oe=6683EA84

[Seran]

I'll hand it to the Republicans, sticking to their guns on a President with no coherent policy, who is the first felon ex-President in history, the first former President to attempt a coup in United States history, and who openly praises Nazis? Takes some hubris to think he'd be a good leader.

[Tgo01]

I didn't watch the debate, but let me guess:

Moderator: President Biden, please tell us why you are so great and Trump is so bad?
Biden: Well Corn Pop said Trump was a felon! And Corn Pop was a bad dude!

[Anebriated]

I'll hand it to the Republicans, sticking to their guns on a President with no coherent policy, who is the first felon ex-President in history, the first former President to attempt a coup in United States history, and who openly praises Nazis? Takes some hubris to think he'd be a good leader.

Imagine that your candidate is so bad that he came out looking worse the guy you make Trump out to be and his own party wants to replace him. And you still back him.

[Seran]

That's a cute little fantasy you played out there, but wrong.

[Methais]

Now mainstream media has turned on Biden and Democrats finally want him to step aside. Color me unsurprised.

Clearly they haven't heard from Seran yet about how great Biden is.

That will definitely make them reconsider.

[Methais]

I'll hand it to the Republicans, sticking to their guns on a President with no coherent policy, who is the first felon ex-President in history, the first former President to attempt a coup in United States history, and who openly praises Nazis? Takes some hubris to think he'd be a good leader.

https://i.imgur.com/WIJS0PO.png


Watching you cope and seethe this hard is glorious. I can't wait to see your November meltdown.

[Methais]

I didn't watch the debate, but let me guess:

Moderator: President Biden, please tell us why you are so great and Trump is so bad?
Biden: Well Corn Pop said Trump was a felon! And Corn Pop was a bad dude!

The moderators were surprisingly fair overall. Probably because once Biden started speaking they knew they were fucked and couldn't do shit about it.

Just apply the opposite to everything welfare Seran has said so far, and that's pretty much how the debate went.

[Parkbandit]

Now mainstream media has turned on Biden and Democrats finally want him to step aside. Color me unsurprised.

The expectations for Biden were SO LOW, I'm honestly shocked at how they turned. I was watching MSNBC after the debate.. I thought Mandow was going to start crying.

[Methais]

The expectations for Biden were SO LOW, I'm honestly shocked at how they turned. I was watching MSNBC after the debate.. I thought Mandow was going to start crying.

And despite even MSNBC having to accept reality, welfare Seran is still in full denial mode and insisting that Biden destroyed Trump.

You know, exactly like I predicted Seran would before the debate even happened. :rofl:

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/2HZeIxO.png
https://i.imgur.com/p7FEAnB.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/hddjtPQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/XE6h0va.png


Keep shitting your Pull-Ups Seran.

[ClydeR]

BIDEN: "You have the morals of an alley cat."

TRUMP: "I didn't have sex with a porn star."

Biden inappropriately smeared and stereotyped alley cats.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

If you think Biden won anything from that debate you're far more fucking stupid than anyone here has ever given you credit for.

I would normally say that was an impossibility, but goddamn Biden got yeeted all night. Fucking elder abuse, his party should be ashamed they let him get on the stage.

I give it a 10% chance there is a second debate with Trump and Biden.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

And just wait until his charges are overturned and the others dropped until at least after the election (and then dropped). I said it before, and I'll say it again. All Trump had to do to avoid ANY litigation at all was not run for president. Biden weaponized the DOJ and now it's backfiring on him.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Biden X account before debate
https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1806486230084812937
I don't know what they've got in these performance enhancers, but I'm feeling pretty jacked up.
Try it yourselves, folks.

After the debate

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c88800k2njkt
Panic engulfs Democrats after Biden's stumbling debate performance

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/27/us/politics/biden-debate-democrats.html
A Fumbling Performance, and a Panicking Party

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cnn-flash-poll-shows-trump-clear-winner-first-presidential-debate-stunning-number
CNN flash poll shows Trump as clear winner of first presidential debate: 'Stunning number'

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4745473-biden-debate-failure/
Democratic panic: Who should replace Joe Biden after Thursday’s disastrous debate?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/06/biden/678820/
Time to Go, Joe
Biden needs to step aside—for the sake of his own dignity, for the good of his party, for the future of the country.

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/us-news/story/us-first-presidential-debate-who-won-democrat-joe-biden-republican-donald-trump-cnn-atlanta-georgia-2559596-2024-06-28
First presidential debate result: Why it is Biden: 0 Trump: 1

https://time.com/6993335/first-presidential-debate-analysis-2024/
Calls for Biden to Step Aside Are About to Get Deafening

https://nypost.com/2024/06/27/opinion/we-just-witnessed-the-end-of-joe-bidens-presidency/
We just witnessed the end of Joe Biden’s presidency

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/25/opinion/biden-debate-performance.html
I’m Hearing High Anxiety From Democrats Over Biden’s Debate

[Suppressed Poet]

When Biden said he got his handicap down to six, he meant he only needed his wife to help him with that many steps to walk off the stage.

https://morph.politicopro.com/static.politico.com/b7/27/d7db97924aa9bfaef8e9d3e86af8/election-2024-debate-25115.jpg?w=931

[ClydeR]

The country was going like never before. And we were ready to start paying down debt. We were ready to start using the liquid gold right under our feet, the oil and gas right under our feet. We were going to have something that nobody else has had. We got hit with COVID. We did a lot to fix it. I gave him an unbelievable situation with all of the therapeutics and all of the things that we came up with, we – we gave him something great.


More... (https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/27/politics/read-biden-trump-debate-rush-transcript/index.html)


Trump said in the debate that, but for COVID, the US would have paid down debt during his administration. That is malarky. Trump increased the deficit without taking COVID spending into account. To pay down debt, he would have had to reduce the deficit to below zero. There was no prospect of that. Anybody in this forum think otherwise?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Tiger Woods handicap is 6.7

[Anebriated]

this whole election should be decided at Top Golf

[Methais]

Biden inappropriately smeared and stereotyped alley cats.

Go create another attention thread for us to ignore, loser.

[Methais]

Biden X account before debate
https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1806486230084812937
I don't know what they've got in these performance enhancers, but I'm feeling pretty jacked up.
Try it yourselves, folks.

After the debate

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c88800k2njkt
Panic engulfs Democrats after Biden's stumbling debate performance

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/27/us/politics/biden-debate-democrats.html
A Fumbling Performance, and a Panicking Party

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cnn-flash-poll-shows-trump-clear-winner-first-presidential-debate-stunning-number
CNN flash poll shows Trump as clear winner of first presidential debate: 'Stunning number'

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4745473-biden-debate-failure/
Democratic panic: Who should replace Joe Biden after Thursday’s disastrous debate?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/06/biden/678820/
Time to Go, Joe
Biden needs to step aside—for the sake of his own dignity, for the good of his party, for the future of the country.

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/us-news/story/us-first-presidential-debate-who-won-democrat-joe-biden-republican-donald-trump-cnn-atlanta-georgia-2559596-2024-06-28
First presidential debate result: Why it is Biden: 0 Trump: 1

https://time.com/6993335/first-presidential-debate-analysis-2024/
Calls for Biden to Step Aside Are About to Get Deafening

https://nypost.com/2024/06/27/opinion/we-just-witnessed-the-end-of-joe-bidens-presidency/
We just witnessed the end of Joe Biden’s presidency

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/25/opinion/biden-debate-performance.html
I’m Hearing High Anxiety From Democrats Over Biden’s Debate


They must not have heard that Seran decided that Biden destroyed Trump yet or else I'm sure those headlines would be drastically different.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Joe Biden tweeted 23 times during the debate, by the real people running the country.

You know, to clean up his bumbles.

[Tgo01]

Jill Biden was trying to convince people that Joe Biden did well during the debate and she said, and I shit you not "Joe, you did such a great job! You answered every question!" Like he's some sort of fucking toddler or something.

Imagine setting the bar so damn low that merely "answering every question" is some sort of accomplishment.

[Suppressed Poet]

"I support Roe v Wade, which had three trimesters. The first time, is between a woman and a doctor. Second time is between a doctor and an extreme situation. A third time is between the doctor, I mean, between the women and the state."
-Joe Biden

https://media1.tenor.com/m/GRWKJw38PJwAAAAC/huh.gif

[Suppressed Poet]

this whole election should be decided at Top Golf

Fuck yeah it should!

[Methais]

Jill Biden was trying to convince people that Joe Biden did well during the debate and she said, and I shit you not "Joe, you did such a great job! You answered every question!" Like he's some sort of fucking toddler or something.

Imagine setting the bar so damn low that merely "answering every question" is some sort of accomplishment.

Seran bought it, and extreme retards like him are their target audience.

[Anebriated]

"I support Roe v Wade, which had three trimesters. The first time, is between a woman and a doctor. Second time is between a doctor and an extreme situation. A third time is between the doctor, I mean, between the women and the state."
-Joe Biden

https://media1.tenor.com/m/GRWKJw38PJwAAAAC/huh.gif

"we finally beat medicaid" was my favorite

[Gelston]

DDude, I seriously thought Biden was going to stroke out at a few points in that debate. It delivered exactly what I was expecting. Two old, out of touch egotistical maniacs going at each other. Trump is a master of reality TV.

[Methais]

DDude, I seriously thought Biden was going to stroke out at a few points in that debate. It delivered exactly what I was expecting. Two old, out of touch egotistical maniacs going at each other. Trump is a master of reality TV.

No you got it all wrong. Biden destroyed Trump. I know this because Seran said so.

[Gelston]

No you got it all wrong. Biden destroyed Trump. I know this because Seran said so.

The only thing I see Biden destroying is his party and America I guess.

[ClydeR]

Trump came to the debate with several points ready to address the abortion issue. Some of what he said was wrong.

For example, he said there was unanimous opposition to Roe v. Wade before it was overruled..


Fifty-one years ago, you had Roe v. Wade, and everybody wanted to get it back to the states, everybody, without exception, Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives. Everybody wanted it back. Religious leaders.

And what I did is I put three great Supreme Court justices on the court, and they happened to vote in favor of killing Roe v. Wade and moving it back to the states. This is something that everybody wanted.


He also said that under Roe v. Wade babies could be legally killed after they were born..


BIDEN: . . . And if I'm elected, I'm going to restore Roe v. Wade.

TRUMP: So that means he can take the life of the baby in the ninth month and even after birth, because some states – Democrat-run – take it after birth. Again, the governor – former governor of Virginia: put the baby down, then we decide what to do with it.

So he's in – he's willing to, as we say, rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month and kill the baby.

Both of Trump's statements quoted above were so false that he must have known he was saying things that were untrue.

[Suppressed Poet]

Trump came to the debate with several points ready to address the abortion issue. Some of what he said was wrong.

For example, he said there was unanimous opposition to Roe v. Wade before it was overruled..




He also said that under Roe v. Wade babies could be legally killed after they were born..



Both of Trump's statements quoted above were so false that he must have known he was saying things that were untrue.

Wrong.


"If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen," Northam said. "The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother."
-Ralph Northam

Try again.

[ClydeR]

Most immigrants work in low wage jobs, which Trump thinks of as "black jobs." From the debate..


As sure as you're sitting there, the fact is that his big kill on the black people is the millions of people that he's allowed to come in through the border. They're taking black jobs now and it could be 18. It could be 19 and even 20 million people. They're taking black jobs and they're taking Hispanic jobs and you haven't seen it yet, but you're going to see something that's going to be the worst in our history.

[ClydeR]

Wrong.



Try again.

Trump said that was Biden's intention. Is Northam's view automatically attributed to Biden? Trump would not want the views of all Republican governors attributed to him.

[Suppressed Poet]

Most immigrants work in low wage jobs, which Trump thinks of as "black jobs." From the debate..

I really don’t know what he said at the end of that sentence. I don’t think he knows either.

:rofl:

[Suppressed Poet]

Trump said that was Biden's intention. Is Northam's view automatically attributed to Biden? Trump would not want the views of all Republican governors attributed to him.

Biden was given the opportunity to answer if he would limit late term abortions. His answer was he supported the three trimesters of Roe v Wade (which he did an outstanding job of defining).

[ClydeR]

Biden was given the opportunity to answer if he would limit late term abortions. His answer was he supported the three trimesters of Roe v Wade (which he did an outstanding job of defining).

He said the government could regulate abortion during the third trimester.

[ClydeR]

TRUMP: So, I want absolutely immaculate clean water and I want absolutely clean air, and we had it. We had H2O. We had the best numbers ever. And we did – we were using all forms of energy, all forms, everything. And yet, during my four years, I had the best environmental numbers ever. And my top environmental people gave me that statistic just before I walked on the stage, actually.

Was the water really cleaner when Trump was President than when George Washington was President?

[Winter]

Normally, I wouldn't comment on a U.S. election, but is there a specific reason why Joe Biden hasn't stepped aside for another candidate? He clearly isn't fully compos mentis, and it must be evident to people how bad this looks to the rest of the world.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Normally, I wouldn't comment on a U.S. election, but is there a specific reason why Joe Biden hasn't stepped aside for another candidate? He clearly isn't fully compos mentis, and it must be evident to people how bad this looks to the rest of the world.

The Biden Crime Syndicate needs their godfather in power to rape the American public for power and money.

[Anebriated]

Trump came to the debate with several points ready to address the abortion issue. Some of what he said was wrong.

For example, he said there was unanimous opposition to Roe v. Wade before it was overruled..


https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/joe-biden/senator-joe-biden-voted-constitutional-amendment-states-overturn-roe-v-wade-1982/536-7694ada4-37ac-4443-a06d-c036859b5c89

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I mean, this is not a win for either party for sure. We have pretty poor candidates, and taking a victory lap on grandpa shitting his depends for 90 minutes feels bad a little bit. long time until November though, so who knows how much more fucked up this election will get.

[Suppressed Poet]

Normally, I wouldn't comment on a U.S. election, but is there a specific reason why Joe Biden hasn't stepped aside for another candidate? He clearly isn't fully compos mentis, and it must be evident to people how bad this looks to the rest of the world.

This did not happen. The debate was a cheap fake. Top officials close to Biden say his mind is very sharp. Don’t believe your lying eyes/ears.

[ClydeR]

Normally, I wouldn't comment on a U.S. election, but is there a specific reason why Joe Biden hasn't stepped aside for another candidate? He clearly isn't fully compos mentis, and it must be evident to people how bad this looks to the rest of the world.

I can think of a few recent instances when someone who was too old insisted on staying in a position of power. In addition to Biden, Robert Mueller and RBG are the two who come to mind. Unfortunately, we will probably see more of that over the next decade.

Biden has enough delegates to be the party nominee. If he wants to bow out, he can. Probably, the party would then rally around Kamala Harris as the nominee. I say there is a 50% chance that Biden will bow out in the next seven days.

[ClydeR]

https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/joe-biden/senator-joe-biden-voted-constitutional-amendment-states-overturn-roe-v-wade-1982/536-7694ada4-37ac-4443-a06d-c036859b5c89

1974? Really? That was even before Donald Trump declared himself to be "very pro-choice." People change.

In 1974, it was mostly just Catholics, like Biden, who cared about the Roe v. Wade decision from 1973.

[Suppressed Poet]

Probably, the party would then rally around Kamala Harris as the nominee.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/Jhmstz7CdxkvJCGx0H/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952xi57ihjgppcwlabbi09ddrupvvv05 7uc10qdo2bu&ep=v1_videos_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=v

Ahhh, good one ClydeR. You are working so hard to challenge Seran for that retard belt.

[Furryrat]

I can think of a few recent instances when someone who was too old insisted on staying in a position of power. In addition to Biden, Robert Mueller and RBG are the two who come to mind.

What?

Mueller was 71 when he took the 2-year stint as Special Counsel, and he promptly retired from public office at 73 when that concluded.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg was appointed to a lifelong position on the Supreme Court in 1993 at the age of 60 and was sharp as a hawk until she fell ill and died in 2020.

These aren't even close to appropriate comparables.

The only ones I can think of that fall into the category of national leaders staying in power at extreme age are Kings, Queens, and despots.

[Methais]

The Biden Crime Syndicate needs their godfather in power to rape the American public for power and money.

This is correct.

[Suppressed Poet]

1974? Really? That was even before Donald Trump declared himself to be "very pro-choice." People change.

In 1974, it was mostly just Catholics, like Biden, who cared about the Roe v. Wade decision from 1973.

Yes, people change. Even RBG considered Roe a weak legal argument. Also, concern over population control isn’t as much of a factor.


”Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”
-Ruth Bader Ginsburg

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/Z38Dlm6.png
https://x.com/TheDemocrats/status/1806521190086742516


Seran and ClydeRetard:
https://media1.tenor.com/m/P5_hF2KzfqEAAAAC/uhhuh-clap.gif

[Seran]

Yes, people change. Even RBG considered Roe a weak legal argument. Also, concern over population control isn’t as much of a factor.

The fact the Justice Ginsburg was a lifelong supporter of women's rights, particularly reproductive rights ought not to be forgotten. Her position on the legal precedents were far more nuanced than your quote seems to imply.

Here's far more on the topic.

https://www.law.uchicago.edu/news/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-offers-critique-roe-v-wade-during-law-school-visit

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

The fact the Justice Ginsburg was a lifelong supporter of women's rights, particularly reproductive rights ought not to be forgotten. Her position on the legal precedents were far more nuanced than your quote seems to imply.

Here's far more on the topic.

https://www.law.uchicago.edu/news/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-offers-critique-roe-v-wade-during-law-school-visit

You know what was awesome about RBG? Trump replaced her.

[Furryrat]

The fact the Justice Ginsburg was a lifelong supporter of women's rights, particularly reproductive rights ought not to be forgotten. Her position on the legal precedents were far more nuanced than your quote seems to imply.

Here's far more on the topic.

https://www.law.uchicago.edu/news/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-offers-critique-roe-v-wade-during-law-school-visit

“My criticism of Roe is that it seemed to have stopped the momentum on the side of change,” Ginsburg said. She would’ve preferred that abortion rights be secured more gradually, in a process that included state legislatures and the courts, she added. Ginsburg also was troubled that the focus on Roe was on a right to privacy, rather than women’s rights.

“Roe isn’t really about the woman’s choice, is it?” Ginsburg said. “It’s about the doctor’s freedom to practice…it wasn’t woman-centered, it was physician-centered.”

[Seran]

You know what was awesome about RBG? Trump replaced her.

That's something the Nazis, Hamas, Republicans, and you all in common: being happy when a good Jewish woman died.

[Parkbandit]

Normally, I wouldn't comment on a U.S. election, but is there a specific reason why Joe Biden hasn't stepped aside for another candidate? He clearly isn't fully compos mentis, and it must be evident to people how bad this looks to the rest of the world.

When you are hauling in millions of dollars and all you have to do is give access.. it's EZ money for the Biden Crime Family.

[Parkbandit]

Biden has enough delegates to be the party nominee. If he wants to bow out, he can. Probably, the party would then rally around Kamala Harris as the nominee. I say there is a 50% chance that Biden will bow out in the next seven days.

The party won't rally around Kamala Harris as President. She's not prepared and she's ill equipped. If Biden declines the nomination, it would be up to the party to replace him. Her being VP is meaningless in this scenario.

And there is 100% chance Joe won't bow out in the next 7 days... unless they JFK him.

[~Rocktar~]

1974? Really? That was even before Donald Trump declared himself to be "very pro-choice." People change.

In 1974, it was mostly just Catholics, like Biden, who cared about the Roe v. Wade decision from 1973.

Yeah, then it became big business and the number 1 killer of black people in the US.

[Parkbandit]

Yeah, then it became big business and the number 1 killer of black people in the US.

So.. it's working out exactly as it was intended to.

[~Rocktar~]

So.. it's working out exactly as it was intended to.

^^ This is correct.

[Methais]

That's something the Nazis, Hamas, Republicans, and you all in common: being happy when a good Jewish woman died.

He didn't say anything about her dying. Only that Trump replaced her. But you knew that, you're just a sniveling little bitch.

Remember when she could have retired under Obama and then SCOTUS would be 5-4 instead of 6-3 though?

I'm sure that's Trump's fault too.

Stop being such a gaslighting Hamas supporting loser 24/7.

[ClydeR]

The best commentary I heard this morning was from Chuck Todd, who was a panelist on Meet the Press. He made some very smart points.


If you have issues about whether you can think on your feet, and it's not a problem, and it's just a bad debate, what would you be doing? You'd be flooding the airwaves. You'd be doing interviews, whether it's podcasts, whether it's this or that. You'd go to friendly spots, whatever. The fact they're not doing any of that I think is one of those, "Hey, look what's not happening." That's a big deal too.

More... (https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-june-30-2024-n1310163)

Excellent point. If Biden just had a bad night, then why isn't he proving it by doing interviews or town halls to assuage concerns?



But, you know, Democrats want to lecture Republicans for putting party over country and how they've been enabling of Donald Trump. Mitch McConnell is frequently criticized for that moment where he decided to prioritize not dividing his own party and letting Trump off the hook by not voting to convict him during the impeachment. Can Democrats really sit there and say, you know, "This is not about whether you think Biden can win the election"? He might be able to win the election. It's not because he's Joe Biden, it's because he's not Donald Trump. The real issue is, is he telling the truth about whether he can serve a full four years? And this – there's a lot of challenges in the world. Do we want a president who could be incapacitated? This is – this is one of those where you've got to say to yourself, "This is hard. There's no doubt. There's risk no matter what you do here." But you've got to say to yourself, "What's in the best interest of the country?" Not the party. What's in the best interest of the country in the next four years?]



That said, let's be realistic here. If he decides to do this, to back off, he controls his delegates because they are already his delegates. Essentially he'd be king- or queen-maker here. And there is really no other option, okay? It's Kamala Harris. And I kind of think everybody needs to just realize this: It's going to be her, which perhaps is why suddenly you have other Democratic figures saying, as much as they want this, they're nervous if she leads the ticket. But I think you look at Biden's poll numbers and, if you believe this is about Biden, then you would say stick with him. I think it's pretty obvious this is about Trump. You know, we should look at this through the other prism: How has Trump not gotten a lift out of this?

Another excellent point. Why hasn't Trump gotten a lift out of Biden's bad debate performance?



If Biden is going to stay, it's pretty obvious. Anybody that has dealt with elderly parents or elderly friends knows it's like going bankrupt, okay? First, it happens slowly, then it happens quickly. And it would be irresponsible for the Biden campaign at this point not to make her more front and center. If they're going to stick with this, she's got to be the lead. They've got to get the country comfortable with her because a lot of people are going to go to the polls with the assumption, if Biden is leading the top of the ticket, that he's not going to finish his term.

[Suppressed Poet]

The best commentary I heard this morning was from Chuck Todd, who was a panelist on Meet the Press. He made some very smart points.



Excellent point. If Biden just had a bad night, then why isn't he proving it by doing interviews or town halls to assuage concerns?







Another excellent point. Why hasn't Trump gotten a lift out of Biden's bad debate performance?

1) Everyone knows why. He can still read from a teleprompter but is incapable of just about everything else.

2) Despite how dumb the media thinks we all are, almost everyone already has their mind made up about Trump & Biden at this point. Take you for example: If Biden was pronounced legally dead and the Democrats just paraded his dead body around, you would still vote for him over Trump.

[Parkbandit]

The best commentary I heard this morning was from Chuck Todd, who was a panelist on Meet the Press. He made some very smart points.

Excellent point. If Biden just had a bad night, then why isn't he proving it by doing interviews or town halls to assuage concerns?

Another excellent point. Why hasn't Trump gotten a lift out of Biden's bad debate performance?

I agree. Just prop up poor Joe and play Weekend At Biden's in November.

I'm sure Democrats can still turn up some dead/illegal votes for Joe.

[kutter]

I was speaking to some family about the two different Biden's that show up. They are both health care providers and speculated that whatever medications they use to get him amped up for his little bit of campaigning and he is reading from a teleprompter would not necessarily be suitable for use during a debate since it could impair cognitive function and it was pretty clear that his cognitive function is already impaired. This is all above my head but they put people to sleep and wake them up so they know WAY more than I do about the effects of medications. So the Biden campaigns choice seems to be a fired up Biden that can't form a cogent argument, or what we saw at the debate. Neither is a particularly positive thing for Biden.

I am not of the opinion that either of the Biden's will step aside, Joe and Jill both clearly feel that they deserve this and it is their right to be there and the party be damned. I think the only person that could convince him to step down is to entrenched in being 1st Lady and not what is best for her husband of 45 years, that is truly tragic.

[Neveragain]

Joe and Jill both clearly feel that they deserve this and it is their right to be there and the party be damned.

The fact anyone is even mentioning political parties in this situation proves we are living in a 1984 dystopian nightmare.

[Parkbandit]

At this point.. Trump better be given the death penalty on July 12th to be carried out within 3 months.. for Democrats to have any chance in November.

[Seran]

I was speaking to some family about the two different Biden's that show up. They are both health care providers and speculated that whatever medications they use to get him amped up for his little bit of campaigning and he is reading from a teleprompter would not necessarily be suitable for use during a debate since it could impair cognitive function and it was pretty clear that his cognitive function is already impaired. This is all above my head but they put people to sleep and wake them up so they know WAY more than I do about the effects of medications. So the Biden campaigns choice seems to be a fired up Biden that can't form a cogent argument, or what we saw at the debate. Neither is a particularly positive thing for Biden.

I am not of the opinion that either of the Biden's will step aside, Joe and Jill both clearly feel that they deserve this and it is their right to be there and the party be damned. I think the only person that could convince him to step down is to entrenched in being 1st Lady and not what is best for her husband of 45 years, that is truly tragic.

I was speaking to some family members who also gave their unqualified opinion that you are a total twat. They also agreed that Trump is a womanizing felon, which was at least accurate.

[Parkbandit]

I was speaking to some family members who also gave their unqualified opinion that you are a total twat. They also agreed that Trump is a womanizing felon, which was at least accurate.

Sounds like lies to me. You and I both know your family cut communication with you (except your poor mom who stuck around because she feels responsible for not aborting you when she should have) and want nothing to do with you at all..

[Methais]

I was speaking to some family members who also gave their unqualified opinion that you are a total twat. They also agreed that Trump is a womanizing felon, which was at least accurate.

Someone's upsetti spaghetti this morning.

https://www.dictionary.com/e/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Case-of-the-Mondays-2.jpg

[Parkbandit]

Someone's upsetti spaghetti this morning.

https://www.dictionary.com/e/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Case-of-the-Mondays-2.jpg

He was told by MSNBC that the Supreme Court is racist... especially that black man.

[Neveragain]

I was speaking to some family members who also gave their unqualified opinion that you are a total twat. They also agreed that Trump is a womanizing felon, which was at least accurate.

Your family sounds just as retarded as you.

[Methais]

I wonder what MSNBC is gonna tell Seran what to do and how to refer to Trump when Trump's conviction gets overturned.

[Suppressed Poet]

I was speaking to some family members who also gave their unqualified opinion that you are a total twat. They also agreed that Trump is a womanizing felon, which was at least accurate.

https://64.media.tumblr.com/f7b50cea8062d279925498a021ede4d2/tumblr_nx02twMgMy1r8kesco1_r1_640.gif

[Parkbandit]

I wonder what MSNBC is gonna tell Seran what to do and how to refer to Trump when Trump's conviction gets overturned.

"WE'RE HEADED TOWARDS A CIVIL WAR OR A REVOLUTIONARY WAR!"

Liberals better hope the fuck we aren't... they are so anti-gun and limp wristed that they will just have to use mean words!

[Methais]

"WE'RE HEADED TOWARDS A CIVIL WAR OR A REVOLUTIONARY WAR!"

Liberals better hope the fuck we aren't... they are so anti-gun and limp wristed that they will just have to use mean words!

At some point after "The left can't meme" became a thing, some retards on the left came up with "The right can't fight" and I'm eagerly awaiting the inevitable rude awakening those idiots are going to get when they're not longer behind their keyboards and thinking they're gonna settle it in the streets.

[Parkbandit]

"THIS RULING IS TERRIFYING!" -MSNBC host.

Jesus fucking Christ.

[Parkbandit]

It is a 5 alarm fire on MSNBC today because this tosses out Jack Smith's persecution of President Trump.

I'm loving the tears.

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/kJrhhNX.png

[Parkbandit]

It is a 5 alarm fire on MSNBC today because this tosses out Jack Smith's persecution of President Trump.

I'm loving the tears.

[Methais]

It is a 5 alarm fire on MSNBC today because this tosses out Jack Smith's persecution of President Trump.

I'm loving the tears.

"I'TS NOT FAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -Seran

"THIS HAS ME VERY AFRAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -ClydeRetard

[Suppressed Poet]

https://i.imgur.com/kJrhhNX.png

Biden has the excuse of being old, senile, and multiple brain surgeries as the reason he can’t put together a coherent sentence. Kamala is just retarded.

[ClydeR]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL1GXCOfWI8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL1GXCOfWI8


That's a big improvement from the debate last week.

The movie Dave (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_(film)), from 30 years ago, told the fictional story of a comedic impersonator of the President. When the actual President suffered a debilitating health catastrophe, the impersonator was called on the portray the President permanently. Do you think that could really happen?

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/E2lRtiS.png

[Neveragain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL1GXCOfWI8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL1GXCOfWI8


That's a big improvement from the debate last week.

The movie Dave (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_(film)), from 30 years ago, told the fictional story of a comedic impersonator of the President. When the actual President suffered a debilitating health catastrophe, the impersonator was called on the portray the President permanently. Do you think that could really happen?

No, because 30 years ago they had no idea we would have AI at this point.

How do we know that Bidens failure at the "debate" wasn't a deep fake used by the CIA to cover for Biden who is already dead?

It's said that top secret military tech is 50 years ahead of what is available to the public.

Everyone sleep well tonight.

~End of comment~

[Parkbandit]

That's a big improvement from the debate last week.


Could it be worse than from the debate last week? Pretty low bar. The single worst performance of any President or Presidential candidate in modern times.

Personally, I can't wait for Trump to get back into the White House and uncover a treasure trove of bullshit that has happened in the past 8 years.

[Parkbandit]

So, has Trump selected his VP?

https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00882035/1792400/

Michael Flynn

[Tgo01]

So, has Trump selected his VP?

https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00882035/1792400/

Michael Flynn

Michael Flynn seems like such an odd choice. I don’t see how it would help Trump at all.

[Parkbandit]

Michael Flynn seems like such an odd choice. I don’t see how it would help Trump at all.

Yea. No idea if it's true or not.. or just a red herring.. but Flynn was extremely loyal to Trump and Trump always rewards loyalty.

And let's be honest.. Trump doesn't need any help at this point.. the Dems are giving him all he needs.

[Neveragain]

Yea. No idea if it's true or not.. or just a red herring.. but Flynn was extremely loyal to Trump and Trump always rewards loyalty.

And let's be honest.. Trump doesn't need any help at this point.. the Dems are giving him all he needs.

I like the idea.

In my honest opinion, the military should have stepped in years ago when these crooks raided the social security fund.

[~Rocktar~]

I like the idea.

In my honest opinion, the military should have stepped in years ago when these crooks raided the social security fund.

There was no Social Security "Trust Fund". It was all an accounting trick that Bill Clinton ended in order to claim balanced budgets.

[Neveragain]

There was no Social Security "Trust Fund". It was all an accounting trick that Bill Clinton ended in order to claim balanced budgets.

There's no such thing as "accounting tricks", there's only fraud.

[Parkbandit]

Could it be worse than from the debate last week? Pretty low bar. The single worst performance of any President or Presidential candidate in modern times.

Personally, I can't wait for Trump to get back into the White House and uncover a treasure trove of bullshit that has happened in the past 8 years.


8 years? You must be as senile as these two unless he's uncovering secrets of his own presidential term. Trump was the 45th President from 2017-2021 btw (3.5 years ago)

Yes, retard. I meant 8 years. Trump's campaign was spied on in 2016 by the Obama Administration... and all the bullshit "RUSSIAN COLLUSION", "ZOMG UKRAINE QUID PRO QUO", "ZOMG ARMED INSURRECTION!", "HUNTER LAPTOP IS RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION", etc.. all of it needs to be investigated and heads need to roll.

If you still can't keep up with the math: 2024-2016=8 years.

Fucking retard.

[Methais]

Yea. No idea if it's true or not.. or just a red herring.. but Flynn was extremely loyal to Trump and Trump always rewards loyalty.

And let's be honest.. Trump doesn't need any help at this point.. the Dems are giving him all he needs.

That email address looks sketchy

https://i.imgur.com/p8bGqI8.png


Yes, retard. I meant 8 years. Trump's campaign was spied on in 2016 by the Obama Administration... and all the bullshit "RUSSIAN COLLUSION", "ZOMG UKRAINE QUID PRO QUO", "ZOMG ARMED INSURRECTION!", "HUNTER LAPTOP IS RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION", etc.. all of it needs to be investigated and heads need to roll.

If you still can't keep up with the math: 2024-2016=8 years.

Fucking retard.

That was shaft wasn't it? Sounds like some mouth breather shit he would say. Except it doesn't seem to contain enough mouth breathing foaming at the mouth retard rage that's expected from him.

[Parkbandit]

That email address looks sketchy

https://i.imgur.com/p8bGqI8.png



Yea, I saw that.. but it is the FEC, so maybe it's a distraction or maybe it's real.

We will soon find out.


That was shaft wasn't it? Sounds like some mouth breather shit he would say. Except it doesn't seem to contain enough mouth breathing foaming at the mouth retard rage that's expected from him.

No, shaftard would say "Oh yea!? Well I'm coming to Florida soon to beat you up!"

Because he's a fucking retarded loser.

[Suppressed Poet]

this whole election should be decided at Top Golf

We all know Biden won’t accept the challenge, but I’d still love to see it:

https://youtu.be/c6mScBF1lzA?si=5-XB1rs-3B8X9sSc

Next election, I want to see the two nominees play each other in a 1v1 in Mortal Kombat.

[Methais]

We all know Biden won’t accept the challenge, but I’d still love to see it:

https://youtu.be/c6mScBF1lzA?si=5-XB1rs-3B8X9sSc

Next election, I want to see the two nominees play each other in a 1v1 in Mortal Kombat.

But modded on PC so they can each have their own skin and also with their kameo characters sporting their respective VP skins.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

When is the next debate? September?

[~Rocktar~]

When is the next debate? September?

You think they will have one, what's the odds on Biden being ousted or dead by them?

[Parkbandit]

When is the next debate? September?

There won't be another debate. They will use some leftist excuse like "We don't want to legitimize the MAGA extremists" or "President Biden shouldn't dignify Trump with a debate" or "Kamala Harris is too busy running the country since President Biden had that "stroke"/"heart attack"

[kutter]

I would be stunned if Biden is allowed to do another debate by Jill and Hunter. If someone somehow convinces Joe to withdraw from the race, I don't see how Kamala could skip it, the optics about not meeting the challenger would be to much, she would appear to be even weaker than she already is.

[Winter]

If someone somehow convinces Joe to withdraw from the race

Does he have to be convinced? aren't there mechanisms in place to evaluate people with cognitive decline in professions where public safety is a concern?

[Tgo01]

Someone just tried to assassinate Trump during his rally.

Yet another deranged far leftist tried to assassinate a Republican. When do Democrats take responsibility for their lunatic base?

[Methais]

Someone just tried to assassinate Trump during his rally.

Yet another deranged far leftist tried to assassinate a Republican. When do Democrats take responsibility for their lunatic base?

Got him in the ear. Then he stood back up and basically said fuck you.

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1812251930007101593



In before Seran says it's fake.

[Parkbandit]

Someone just tried to assassinate Trump during his rally.

Yet another deranged far leftist tried to assassinate a Republican. When do Democrats take responsibility for their lunatic base?

You say leftist.. I say our unelected government.

I fucking love Trump's reaction to this though. Defiance.

Teddy Roosevelt was shot during a speech and ended up finishing his speech. I expect Trump to be on TV within an hour or two.

[Suppressed Poet]

I very much hope this was the action of one lone mentally ill nut job. I prefer to settle our political differences the American way, at the ballot box.

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/vXx4ISf.png

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Does he have to be convinced? aren't there mechanisms in place to evaluate people with cognitive decline in professions where public safety is a concern?

If Joe withdraws from the race, does that mean he won't be able to pardon his addict, father of a strippers baby, felon son? Could be why the puppets behind him still dance him out on stage... maybe once sentencing happens he'll drop after pardoning his son.

[Suppressed Poet]

If Joe withdraws from the race, does that mean he won't be able to pardon his addict, father of a strippers baby, felon son? Could be why the puppets behind him still dance him out on stage... maybe once sentencing happens he'll drop after pardoning his son.

He could withdraw from the race but would serve out the remainder of his term. I expect one of Joe Biden’s last acts as President will be to at minimum commute sentence.

[Anebriated]

He could withdraw from the race but would serve out the remainder of his term. I expect one of Joe Biden’s last acts as President will be to at minimum commute sentence.

He doesnt need to now that Jack Smith investigations were ruled unconstitutional. Hunters gun lawsuit is likely to be thrown out as well.

[Suppressed Poet]

He doesnt need to now that Jack Smith investigations were ruled unconstitutional. Hunters gun lawsuit is likely to be thrown out as well.

I heard that as well this morning. We’ll see how the Hunter tax evasion case plays out.

[~Rocktar~]

I can't wait for the VP debate, I am going to LOVE seeing that racist diversity hire garden tool get verbally eviscerated on stage.

[ClydeR]

We're getting excited about something that may never happen. Trump is unlikely to show up at the debates.

Trump said he would "absolutely" testify in his current criminal case. I predict he will take the Fifth in that case, which is the absolute opposite of what he said he would do. When it comes to the debates, he will find an excuse to back out. All hat, no cattle.


Just as I predicted. The debate scheduled for Sept. 10 will be hosted by ABC, to which Trump agreed. Now he is trying to back out..


ABC Fake News is such a joke, among the absolute WORST in the business. They try to make Crooked Joe into a brave warrior because he didn’t have the “guts” to fight it out — He quit! They then tried to make “Sleepy” look like a great President - he was the WORST, and Lyin’ Kamala into a competent person, which she is not. ABC, the home of George Slopadopolus, is not worthy of holding a Debate, of which I hope there will be many! MAGA2024

[Suppressed Poet]

Just as I predicted. The debate scheduled for Sept. 10 will be hosted by ABC, to which Trump agreed. Now he is trying to back out..

Is Joe Biden showing up for this debate as agreed?

CNN hosted the last one. Seems fair given the change of circumstances that Trump ask for a more conservative friendly news network.

[Neveragain]

Just as I predicted. The debate scheduled for Sept. 10 will be hosted by ABC, to which Trump agreed. Now he is trying to back out..

Who is the Democrat candidate that Trump is debating?

[Parkbandit]

Just as I predicted. The debate scheduled for Sept. 10 will be hosted by ABC, to which Trump agreed. Now he is trying to back out..

Didn't you also predict that Trump would try and back out of the first debate?

How did that work out for you?

Fucking retard.

If sErAn remains away, I will be forced to give you the vacant belt. You've been working overtime lately on your retard game.

[ClydeR]

Didn't you also predict that Trump would try and back out of the first debate?

How did that work out for you?

That's a good point. Imagine if the first debate had been at the usual time in late September. Why was the first debate held so early? Did somebody make a political error? Or was it political genius?

[Neveragain]

That's a good point. Imagine if the first debate had been at the usual time in late September. Why was the first debate held so early? Did somebody make a political error? Or was it political genius?

"We lied to the entire country about the state of our candidates mental faculties to subvert the democratic process."

Isn't the gotcha you think it is.

https://y.yarn.co/e05b4cb8-3825-4533-88e0-610bfad1d636_text.gif

[Suppressed Poet]

That's a good point. Imagine if the first debate had been at the usual time in late September. Why was the first debate held so early? Did somebody make a political error? Or was it political genius?

Oh yes. They knew Biden would fuck up in the debate this badly and planned for this coup. The next step is to put in front an unpopular DEI appointed VP as their candidate who has never received a single primary vote to run against Trump. Genius.

Let’s say this was in fact all part of a grand plan. How do you continue to justify the Democrats have the moral high ground & are the party protecting democracy given the nefariousness of these plots?

[Neveragain]

Nefariousness

Steve Deace nails it in yesterdays show. Skip to 9:05 and he describes exactly what the Democrat party is and how they have to be analyzed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_KBtS7cO4g

Steve is a full blown evangelical, so you may have to suffer a little with his language, but, it doesn't take away from the points he makes.

[Parkbandit]

That's a good point. Imagine if the first debate had been at the usual time in late September. Why was the first debate held so early? Did somebody make a political error? Or was it political genius?

Biden made the error of listening to the people he surrounded himself with.

It was a clever political coup. A real armed insurrection if the people who were forcing him out held a gun to his head.

January 6th has nothing on July 21st given that July 21st was successful in installing a candidate who was never elected and removing an unpopular President from power.

But it's Trump that is a threat to democracy.................

[Parkbandit]

Oh yes. They knew Biden would fuck up in the debate this badly and planned for this coup. The next step is to put in front an unpopular DEI appointed VP as their candidate who has never received a single primary vote to run against Trump. Genius.

Let’s say this was in fact all part of a grand plan. How do you continue to justify the Democrats have the moral high ground & are the party protecting democracy given the nefariousness of these plots?

Once the assassination attempt didn't work... they had to pull something.

[ClydeR]

Oh yes. They knew Biden would fuck up in the debate this badly and planned for this coup. The next step is to put in front an unpopular DEI appointed VP as their candidate who has never received a single primary vote to run against Trump. Genius.

Let’s say this was in fact all part of a grand plan. How do you continue to justify the Democrats have the moral high ground & are the party protecting democracy given the nefariousness of these plots?


It's not part of a grand plan. Biden issued the debate challenge because he thought he would be able to debate and because Trump had been taunting him daily, saying Trump would debate anytime anywhere, including specifically urging Biden to come the courthouse in New York where Trump was on trial so they could debate there. Biden wanted to appear to take the lead, instead of appearing to respond to Trump, so Biden issued the challenge.

If Trump had not taunted Biden, Biden would not have issued the challenge and voters would not have known until late September, which would have been much too late to replace Biden.

If Trump had known how badly Biden would perform at the debate, then it would have been smart for Trump to keep quiet and wait for debates at the usual time. If Biden had known how badly he would perform, then he certainly would not have issued the challenge.

It is an example of how old age and cognitive decline can sneak up on a person, not slowly but in imperceivably small increments, until one day it becomes evident, even though you may at first deny it by convincing yourself that you just had a bad day. Biden must feel relieved. Trump is still in the denial stage.

"The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away." -Psalm 90:10

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

It's not part of a grand plan. Biden issued the debate challenge because he thought he would be able to debate and because Trump had been taunting him daily, saying Trump would debate anytime anywhere, including specifically urging Biden to come the courthouse in New York where Trump was on trial so they could debate there. Biden wanted to appear to take the lead, instead of appearing to respond to Trump, so Biden issued the challenge.

If Trump had not taunted Biden, Biden would not have issued the challenge and voters would not have known until late September, which would have been much too late to replace Biden.

If Trump had known how badly Biden would perform at the debate, then it would have been smart for Trump to keep quiet and wait for debates at the usual time. If Biden had known how badly he would perform, then he certainly would not have issued the challenge.

It is an example of how old age and cognitive decline can sneak up on a person, not slowly but in imperceivably small increments, until one day it becomes evident, even though you may at first deny it by convincing yourself that you just had a bad day. Biden must feel relieved. Trump is still in the denial stage.

"The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away." -Psalm 90:10

Yeah, his cognitive decline "snuck up on him", unperceivably...

[Suppressed Poet]

It's not part of a grand plan. Biden issued the debate challenge because he thought he would be able to debate and because Trump had been taunting him daily, saying Trump would debate anytime anywhere, including specifically urging Biden to come the courthouse in New York where Trump was on trial so they could debate there. Biden wanted to appear to take the lead, instead of appearing to respond to Trump, so Biden issued the challenge.

If Trump had not taunted Biden, Biden would not have issued the challenge and voters would not have known until late September, which would have been much too late to replace Biden.

If Trump had known how badly Biden would perform at the debate, then it would have been smart for Trump to keep quiet and wait for debates at the usual time. If Biden had known how badly he would perform, then he certainly would not have issued the challenge.

It is an example of how old age and cognitive decline can sneak up on a person, not slowly but in imperceivably small increments, until one day it becomes evident, even though you may at first deny it by convincing yourself that you just had a bad day. Biden must feel relieved. Trump is still in the denial stage.

"The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away." -Psalm 90:10

Well, Biden was wrong. The debate went terribly for him
and the rest is living history. Blaming Trump for taunting him or whatever sounds ridiculous to me. Biden wanted that debate, it was on his terms, and he lost.

The problem with this is his cognitive decline didn’t just suddenly happen. People have been saying this for years. The media and Democrat elites were lying and running cover for him. Remember not long before the debate Biden froze and Obama had to help him get off the stage? What did they say that was…a cheap fake? Turns out our lying eyes were correct. It was only after he was exposed in the debate and they could no longer hide his cognitive decline did the elites and media turn on Biden. Forget the Republicans and political opponents, Democrats should have listened to those in their own party that were ostracized & shunned months/years ago for speaking the truth about Biden. The Democrat elites don’t believe in democracy or the free exchange of ideas. When your party’s platform is to simply beat Trump at all costs, the cost is tyranny.

[Methais]

That's a good point. Imagine if the first debate had been at the usual time in late September. Why was the first debate held so early? Did somebody make a political error? Or was it political genius?

It was held early so democrats would have enough time to get Biden out by August in case his dementia got put on full display for the world to see, which it did, after years of insisting that Biden was as sharp as a knife.

Because they've known this entire time that he's senile and getting progressively worse.

Also, you're a retard. Possibly even more retarded than Biden.

[Methais]

It's not part of a grand plan. Biden issued the debate challenge because he thought he would be able to debate and because Trump had been taunting him daily, saying Trump would debate anytime anywhere, including specifically urging Biden to come the courthouse in New York where Trump was on trial so they could debate there. Biden wanted to appear to take the lead, instead of appearing to respond to Trump, so Biden issued the challenge.

If Trump had not taunted Biden, Biden would not have issued the challenge and voters would not have known until late September, which would have been much too late to replace Biden.

If Trump had known how badly Biden would perform at the debate, then it would have been smart for Trump to keep quiet and wait for debates at the usual time. If Biden had known how badly he would perform, then he certainly would not have issued the challenge.

It is an example of how old age and cognitive decline can sneak up on a person, not slowly but in imperceivably small increments, until one day it becomes evident, even though you may at first deny it by convincing yourself that you just had a bad day. Biden must feel relieved. Trump is still in the denial stage.

"The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away." -Psalm 90:10

This might be your most cringe cope yet. And you've had some monstrously cringe copes lately.

It's because you're a sheltered little bitch with no understanding of life outside of hiding under your bed from Covid.

[Anebriated]

To be fair, hes right that Trump should have waited until normal debate time if he thought Biden would perform as poorly as he did. There was no reason to Trump to move it forward on the schedule. UNLESS he knew that whatever the Dems would do to move on from Biden would be so egregious that it would wake up even more people to the bullshit and crimes that the left has been doing for decades and end up working in his favor.

[Parkbandit]

It's not part of a grand plan. Biden issued the debate challenge because he thought he would be able to debate and because Trump had been taunting him daily, saying Trump would debate anytime anywhere, including specifically urging Biden to come the courthouse in New York where Trump was on trial so they could debate there. Biden wanted to appear to take the lead, instead of appearing to respond to Trump, so Biden issued the challenge.

If Trump had not taunted Biden, Biden would not have issued the challenge and voters would not have known until late September, which would have been much too late to replace Biden.

If Trump had known how badly Biden would perform at the debate, then it would have been smart for Trump to keep quiet and wait for debates at the usual time. If Biden had known how badly he would perform, then he certainly would not have issued the challenge.

It is an example of how old age and cognitive decline can sneak up on a person, not slowly but in imperceivably small increments, until one day it becomes evident, even though you may at first deny it by convincing yourself that you just had a bad day. Biden must feel relieved. Trump is still in the denial stage.

"The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away." -Psalm 90:10

"IT'S TRUMP'S FAULT!" -cLyDeR 2024

Jesus fucking Christ.. you are so fucking retarded.

[Suppressed Poet]

I still want to see a golf tournament for charity. Kamala can play too. Biden has been taunted and needs to accept the challenge.

[ClydeR]

Wow! Trump is in full panic mode. Also, he knows that what he says about Obama is completely false. Why would anybody take Trump seriously?


“Given the continued political chaos surrounding Crooked Joe Biden and the Democrat Party, general election debate details cannot be finalized until Democrats formally decide on their nominee,” said Trump campaign communications director Steven Cheung in a statement. “There is a strong sense by many in the Democrat Party — namely Barack Hussein Obama — that Kamala Harris is a Marxist fraud who cannot beat President Trump, and they are still holding out for someone ‘better.’ Therefore, it would be inappropriate to schedule things with Harris because Democrats very well could still change their minds.”

More... (https://deadline.com/2024/07/kamala-harris-trump-debate-1236022265/)

[Seran]

Wow! Trump is in full panic mode. Also, he knows that what he says about Obama is completely false. Why would anybody take Trump seriously?

His campaign has been saying they're trying to give Obama a fifth term in office. LOL.

[Suppressed Poet]

Wow! Trump is in full panic mode. Also, he knows that what he says about Obama is completely false. Why would anybody take Trump seriously?

Obama ain’t wrong. Kamala is a Marxist fraud as evidenced by her own extreme leftist policies (and her daddy being a self declared Marxist). She can’t win this election because she is unlikeable. I wouldn’t want to give my endorsement to a loser like that either.

Enjoy the honeymoon phase of having a warm body to cheer for, but the world already knows and despises Kamala Harris.

[Suppressed Poet]

His campaign has been saying they're trying to given Obama a fifth term in office. LOL.

Obama has a ton of political weight and influence on the Democrat Party, but I don’t subscribe to the theory that he is the all powerful underboss running the whole show in the White House. He’s not that smart and he shares power with a handful of other elites.

Missed you bro.

[~Rocktar~]

Obama calling anyone a Marxist fraud is rich, he is the king of Marxist pieces of shit.

[Suppressed Poet]

Obama calling anyone a Marxist fraud is rich, he is the king of Marxist pieces of shit.

Kamala is way left of Obama. Think about that for a moment. GovTrack rated Kamala as the #1 most leftist Senator in 2019 beating even Bernie Sanders.

It’s quite hilarious that these retards think she is going to do well in a general election, especially in key rust belt states.

[~Rocktar~]

Kamala is way left of Obama. Think about that for a moment. GovTrack rated Kamala as the #1 most leftist Senator in 2019 beating even Bernie Sanders.

It’s quite hilarious that these retards think she is going to do well in a general election, especially in key rust belt states.

Yeah, well, Obama is WAY smarter and more dangerous than she ever could be.

[Suppressed Poet]

Yeah, well, Obama is WAY smarter and more dangerous than she ever could be.

Absolutely agree.

I’m not underestimating Kamala. I think she will actually do slightly better than Biden could have, but as long as Trump & the Republicans don’t completely fuck it up they will beat her by a significant margin of electoral votes. Obama is smart enough to understand this.

Now if they did ever find a way to put up Michelle Obama, I’d concede that Trump would be legit scared & likely to lose. And I can’t stand Michelle, but the facts are she is popular. Lucky for us, at least so far, that doesn’t seem to be a possibility this election.

[Seran]

Obama has a ton of political weight and influence on the Democrat Party, but I don’t subscribe to the theory that he is the all powerful underboss running the whole show in the White House. He’s not that smart and he shares power with a handful of other elites.

Missed you bro.

He was a great President, pulling us out of the Great Recession that Bush bought about with all his wreckless anti-regulation. Much as Biden brought out of the the Covid-19 Recession that Trump exacerbated. Maybe Obama gave some sage advice, who knows. The more common theme is that Republicans ruin the economy.

[~Rocktar~]

He was a great President, pulling us out of the Great Recession that Bush bought about with all his wreckless anti-regulation. Much as Biden brought out of the the Covid-19 Recession that Trump exacerbated. Maybe Obama gave some sage advice, who knows. The more common theme is that Republicans ruin the economy.

He was a piece of shit that really stoked racism, attack cops and allowed the beginning of the Leftist riot tradition. He instilled the new KKK with power, aka BLM and refused to do anything about the death and destruction all because it suited him. He ordered the coup in Ukraine, enticed the Russian invasion in Crimea and the rise and expansion of ISIS. He also presided over the destruction of Libya and the the reopening of live, in the public, African slave markets. But yeah, he was a great president. The copium is strong.

[Suppressed Poet]

He was a great President, pulling us out of the Great Recession that Bush bought about with all his wreckless anti-regulation. Much as Biden brought out of the the Covid-19 Recession that Trump exacerbated. Maybe Obama gave some sage advice, who knows. The more common theme is that Republicans ruin the economy.

It is so great to have you back Seran. ClydeR has been putting in the OT and hard work, but nobody can touch your natural born gift of retardation.

[~Rocktar~]

It is so great to have you back Seran. ClydeR has been putting in the OT and hard work, but nobody can touch your natural born gift of retardation.

^^ This is correct

[ClydeR]

This could explain why Trump wants to back out of the debates..


Trump has faced growing questions over his mental acuity, with author Ramin Setoodeh saying last month he found the former president exhibiting “severe memory issues” during their six interviews. Business leaders who met with Trump recently complained he was “meandering” and “doesn’t know what he’s talking about.”

Earlier this year, Trump confused former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, who served as his ambassador to the United Nations and was running against him for the presidential nomination, with former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).

Trump and his campaign insist the former president is healthy.

More... (https://news.yahoo.com/news/trump-responds-claims-hes-cognitively-033718310.html)

Unlike Biden, Trump has already been nominated. It's probably too late to replace him with somebody else.

[Suppressed Poet]

This could explain why Trump wants to back out of the debates..



Unlike Biden, Trump has already been nominated. It's probably too late to replace him with somebody else.

Trump wants multiple debates with Kamala. She is a gaffe machine and historically performs very poorly in debates (https://youtu.be/o1-CRrMDSLs?si=6l3Gc3fDyjIu_TS4). Trump will absolutely destroy Harris when comparing policies & track record. Her performance as Senator is way too far left for mainstream voters and she inherits all the problems & frustrations people have of the Biden administration except for Biden’s age & mental issues.

I think it’s fair Kamala secure the official nomination first. Let the Democrats put forward their very best candidate and let’s have a debate on the issues the American way.

[ClydeR]

Just as I predicted. The debate scheduled for Sept. 10 will be hosted by ABC, to which Trump agreed. Now he is trying to back out..


I totally nailed it. After promising "anywhere, anytime, any place," Trump now says that he will only debate if it is in an arena, on September 4 and on FoxNews. If Harris does not agree, he says there will be no debate. He is withdrawing his prior acceptance of the debate currently scheduled for September 10 on ABC.

This is a strategic error on Trump's part. Expectations have been set so high for Harris' debating skills that there is no way she could live up to them. And Trump would perform better than he seems to think he would. Although the Harris campaign is taking advantage of Trump's apparent cowardice, they must be secretly relieved.

Soon, Trump will begin to blame his campaign staff for these sorts of errors.

[Suppressed Poet]

I totally nailed it. After promising "anywhere, anytime, any place," Trump now says that he will only debate if it is in an arena, on September 4 and on FoxNews. If Harris does not agree, he says there will be no debate. He is withdrawing his prior acceptance of the debate currently scheduled for September 10 on ABC.

This is a strategic error on Trump's part. Expectations have been set so high for Harris' debating skills that there is no way she could live up to them. And Trump would perform better than he seems to think he would. Although the Harris campaign is taking advantage of Trump's apparent cowardice, they must be secretly relieved.

Soon, Trump will begin to blame his campaign staff for these sorts of errors.

I think Trump should honor his prior arrangement of a September debate hosted by ABC if Joe Biden is the one to debate him…

If I were Kamala Harris I would not accept Trump’s debate challenge. She hasn’t done a single interview or unscripted televised event since receiving the noble coronation of presumptive nominee. There is a very good reason for that. She should at least wait until she is the real-deal official nominee. That way the Democrat elites can’t cast her aside like a leper after Trump mops the floor with her on the debate stage.

[~Rocktar~]

Trump agreed to debate Biden, not Harris. And yeah, I would not debate anyone until after they become the nominee at this point. Too much wasted time for a possible rope-a-dope.

[ClydeR]

Trump agreed to debate Biden, not Harris.

Not so. I bet you heard that from Trump or on from a news source that misrepresents the facts to favor Trump. Here are the facts, presented without any misrepresentation..

The criteria for the ABC debate are at https://abc.com/news/adaaae86-2621-41c7-b8f3-33a5215783f2/category/1138628

It does not mention Biden or Trump. Trump agreed to debate anybody who met the criteria. The criteria are
Meet the requirements in the Constitution to be President,
Be on the ballot in enough states that it is possible to get a majority of electoral votes, and
Poll at 15%.
At the time it was contemplated that Kennedy or another third-party candidate might meet the criteria, but that seems unlikely now. Harris certainly meets the criteria. Trump agreed to debate anyone who met the criteria.

[~Rocktar~]

Not so. I bet you heard that from Trump or on from a news source that misrepresents the facts to favor Trump. Here are the facts, presented without any misrepresentation..

The criteria for the ABC debate are at https://abc.com/news/adaaae86-2621-41c7-b8f3-33a5215783f2/category/1138628

It does not mention Biden or Trump. Trump agreed to debate anybody who met the criteria. The criteria are
Meet the requirements in the Constitution to be President,
Be on the ballot in enough states that it is possible to get a majority of electoral votes, and
Poll at 15%.
At the time it was contemplated that Kennedy or another third-party candidate might meet the criteria, but that seems unlikely now. Harris certainly meets the criteria. Trump agreed to debate anyone who met the criteria.

She does not, she hasn't met those 3 conditions. She isn't on the ballot yet, there is a convention because until they actually cast their votes, no matter what the appearances may be, she isn't the nominee and isn't on the ballot in states. Sorry. There are stipulations about being on the ballot if you aren't the winner of primaries in the states that require formal nomination.

[~Rocktar~]

And then there is the true statement of cowardice . . .

https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/453736419_10103898432178028_5738080846801702239_n. jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s640x640&_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=Xl_6Xjul-YcQ7kNvgFLjVm3&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-2.xx&oh=00_AYBNLx8cIMMhZyuzAABuyCxA2_sJgLbi5I7wU0KryUIv 8g&oe=66B4C82E

[Parkbandit]

Not so. I bet you heard that from Trump or on from a news source that misrepresents the facts to favor Trump. Here are the facts, presented without any misrepresentation..

The criteria for the ABC debate are at https://abc.com/news/adaaae86-2621-41c7-b8f3-33a5215783f2/category/1138628

It does not mention Biden or Trump. Trump agreed to debate anybody who met the criteria. The criteria are

Meet the requirements in the Constitution to be President,
Be on the ballot in enough states that it is possible to get a majority of electoral votes, and
Poll at 15%.

At the time it was contemplated that Kennedy or another third-party candidate might meet the criteria, but that seems unlikely now. Harris certainly meets the criteria. Trump agreed to debate anyone who met the criteria.

This is what happens when you successfully pull off a coup of the nominee and install another candidate of the elite's choice as the new "nominee"... you lose all standing when it comes to agreements.

What are the dems going to do when Kamala is exposed as the empty headed suit she is after the Democrat convention? Do you have to assassinate her to get someone who can win in.. or do you try to assassinate the opposition again?

[Suppressed Poet]

Not so. I bet you heard that from Trump or on from a news source that misrepresents the facts to favor Trump. Here are the facts, presented without any misrepresentation..

The criteria for the ABC debate are at https://abc.com/news/adaaae86-2621-41c7-b8f3-33a5215783f2/category/1138628

It does not mention Biden or Trump. Trump agreed to debate anybody who met the criteria. The criteria are
Meet the requirements in the Constitution to be President,
Be on the ballot in enough states that it is possible to get a majority of electoral votes, and
Poll at 15%.
At the time it was contemplated that Kennedy or another third-party candidate might meet the criteria, but that seems unlikely now. Harris certainly meets the criteria. Trump agreed to debate anyone who met the criteria.

What a pussy Harris is. She is afraid someone might ask her a tough question and not kiss her ass. Your unelected DEI candidate can whine some more.

Edit: Also I was SO right in my last post! I correctly predicted Kamala would decline. Notice me Senpai!!!

[Seran]

I think Trump should honor his prior arrangement of a September debate hosted by ABC if Joe Biden is the one to debate him…

If I were Kamala Harris I would not accept Trump’s debate challenge. She hasn’t done a single interview or unscripted televised event since receiving the noble coronation of presumptive nominee. There is a very good reason for that. She should at least wait until she is the real-deal official nominee. That way the Democrat elites can’t cast her aside like a leper after Trump mops the floor with her on the debate stage.

She's already the nominee, the vote was held a couple days ago, about the time when Trump was getting his ass handed to him by three black, female journalists and he melted down. I can't blame Trump from running scared and begging Fox to protect him from a strong, independent black woman, but he couldn't look more the pussy if he tried.

[Parkbandit]

She's already the nominee, the vote was held a couple days ago, about the time when Trump was getting his ass handed to him by three black, female journalists and he melted down. I can't blame Trump from running scared and begging Fox to protect him from a strong, independent black woman, but he couldn't look more the pussy if he tried.

She's like 4% "black". She's 50% Indian and probably 25-30% Irish.

Her great-great-great-great grandfather was Irish, immigrated to Jamaica and was one of the largest slave owners on the island.

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2024/07/23/kamala-harris-is-a-descendant-of-an-irish-slave-owner-in-jamaica/

[Neveragain]

She's already the nominee, the vote was held a couple days ago

Sounds awfully democratic. No primaries, no convention, never won a single public vote.

[Seran]

Sounds awfully democratic. No primaries, no convention, never won a single public vote.

Virtual primaries are a thing, recorded votes are as well. Funny thing is, none of that would have been necessary had Republican-controlled legislature not stonewalled moving their ballot qualification deadline to date prior to the Democrat Convention. Sucks to be Republicans who so desperately try to curtail democracy.

[Gelston]

Virtual primaries are a thing, recorded votes are as well. Funny thing is, none of that would have been necessary had Republican-controlled legislature not stonewalled moving their ballot qualification deadline to date prior to the Democrat Convention. Sucks to be Republicans who so desperately try to curtail democracy.

I like how you accept how she was fast tracked in a matter of days to being the nominee, but you accuse others of being fascists and undemocratic.

[Suppressed Poet]

She's like 4% "black". She's 50% Indian and probably 25-30% Irish.

Her great-great-great-great grandfather was Irish, immigrated to Jamaica and was one of the largest slave owners on the island.

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2024/07/23/kamala-harris-is-a-descendant-of-an-irish-slave-owner-in-jamaica/

sErAn: nUh Uh! JuSt LoOk At ThIs BlAcK fAmIlY!!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/Second_Gentleman_on_Father%27s_Day_%282024%29_-_01_%28cropped%29.jpg/1200px-Second_Gentleman_on_Father%27s_Day_%282024%29_-_01_%28cropped%29.jpg

[Suppressed Poet]

Virtual primaries are a thing, recorded votes are as well. Funny thing is, none of that would have been necessary had Republican-controlled legislature not stonewalled moving their ballot qualification deadline to date prior to the Democrat Convention. Sucks to be Republicans who so desperately try to curtail democracy.

You’re so pro-choice & pro-democracy that you get no-choice. :rofl:

[Parkbandit]

Virtual primaries are a thing, recorded votes are as well. Funny thing is, none of that would have been necessary had Republican-controlled legislature not stonewalled moving their ballot qualification deadline to date prior to the Democrat Convention. Sucks to be Republicans who so desperately try to curtail democracy.

https://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/05/kanye-wtf.gif

This makes no sense.

At all.

You.Fucking.Retard.

[Seran]

I like how you accept how she was fast tracked in a matter of days to being the nominee, but you accuse others of being fascists and undemocratic.

A party can nominate whomever they want, that is the Democratic process, I'm surprised you're that confused.

[~Rocktar~]

A party can nominate whomever they want, that is the Democratic process, I'm surprised you're that confused.


https://youtu.be/jKQMPTnrQ04?si=li4QIQ8m6p76DJoW

[Furryrat]

A party can nominate whomever they want, that is the Democratic process, I'm surprised you're that confused.

A good morning for this, as the markets crash out.

Democracy 101 - the people choose the candidates through a voting process and throw a party if they win!

Communism 101 - the party chooses the candidates without any input from the people.

I'm not at all surprised that you are confused.

[Parkbandit]

A party can nominate whomever they want, that is the Democratic process, I'm surprised you're that confused.

The democratic process involves citizens actively participating in the decision-making process in the government. In this country, voting for elected officials is one of various methods by which citizens can participate in the democratic process.

There was nothing at all "democratic" at the coronation process for Kamala Harris.

[Methais]

A good morning for this, as the markets crash out.

https://i.imgur.com/jUBogIO.png



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FjjJme1aVQ

[Suppressed Poet]

A party can nominate whomever they want, that is the Democratic process, I'm surprised you're that confused.

In the case of Democrats, the elites controlling the party can force the sitting President to resign & the delegates to nominate whoever they desire without any input from voters. Congrats on having no voice in your democratic process.

[~Rocktar~]

In the case of Democrats, the elites controlling the party can force the sitting President to resign & the delegates to nominate whoever they desire without any input from voters. Congrats on having no voice in your democratic process.

^^ This

[ClydeR]

WASHINGTON - Former President Donald Trump said Thursday he is willing to debate Vice President Kamala Harris on Sept. 10 after all – and proposed two other debates on top of that.

The former president's campaign also put forth debate dates of Sept. 4 and Sept. 25, with details to be worked out with the Harris campaign.

"I think they'll be very revealing," Trump told reporters during a snap news conference at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Fla. "We'd like to do three debates."

More... (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/08/08/trump-debate-harris-september-abc/74719600007/)

Trump would not have agreed to the debate if he did not believe recent polls are correct.

[Parkbandit]

Trump would not have agreed to the debate if he did not believe recent polls are correct.

You were wrong when you said Trump was ducking having to debate Harris.

No one is scared of Harris. She's a light weight like you.

[~Rocktar~]

You were wrong when you said Trump was ducking having to debate Harris.

No one is scared of Harris. She's a light weight like you.

TBH, other than being hugely TDS afflicted, I am pretty sure, given some time and a large pack of crayons and notebook paper, ClydeR would perform better than her in a debate. This isn't really praise since that bar is somewhere in the basement of the Paris sewers.

[Parkbandit]

TBH, other than being hugely TDS afflicted, I am pretty sure, given some time and a large pack of crayons and notebook paper, ClydeR would perform better than her in a debate. This isn't really praise since that bar is somewhere in the basement of the Paris sewers.

Unlikely.

cLyDeR relies on the Internet to make "points" and even then.. he has the world's knowledge at his fingertips and he still is wrong most of the time.

Not to mention his crippling social disorders.. he wouldn't be able to utter a word and probably shit his pants on stage.

[ClydeR]

ClydeR would perform better than her in a debate.

Sometimes it's scary how Rocktar is right.

[ClydeR]

Soon, Trump will begin to blame his campaign staff for these sorts of errors.


Scaramucci said on his podcast that the reason Trump is off the campaign trail is because Trump is contacting members of his 2016 campaign team to try to get the band back together. Scaramucci says that, although there are devices called mobile phones that would allow a person to make calls while on the road, Trump prefers to sit at his desk to make important calls.


https://i.imgur.com/GlklGZk.png
https://x.com/Scaramucci/status/1821872598428602777

[Methais]

Sometimes it's scary how Rocktar is right.

gg confirming how monumentally dumb and retarded Kamala is.

[ClydeR]

Scaramucci said on his podcast that the reason Trump is off the campaign trail is because Trump is contacting members of his 2016 campaign team to try to get the band back together. Scaramucci says that, although there are devices called mobile phones that would allow a person to make calls while on the road, Trump prefers to sit at his desk to make important calls.

According to the RealClearPolitics 2016 record of polls (https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2016/trump-vs-clinton), on this date in 2016 Clinton was ahead by 6.9 points in the RCP polling average. Today, Harris is ahead by 0.5 in the RCP average.

Some other current polling averages..
538 (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/) - Harris +2.3
RaceToTheWH (https://www.racetothewh.com/president/polls) - Harris +1.6
SilverBulletin (https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-2024-president-election-polls-model) - Harris +2.5

About a week after this date in 2016, Trump shook up his campaign staff. Trump removed Paul Manafort, who later went to jail, from the position of campaign manager. Trump replaced Manafort with Steve Bannon, who is currently in jail.

I expect Trump to repeat the 2016 strategy by shaking up his campaign in the next few days. Can he repeat the 2016 comeback to eke out another electoral college win?

[Suppressed Poet]

I thought JD Vance did pretty well in this hostile interview. Like Trump, he seems to enjoy the fight and thrives on conflict.

It would be nice if we could see Harris or Walz do a similar type interview. Unfortunately they don’t take unscripted questions.


https://youtu.be/pK1V2q05Zi8?si=L2dwMQzX5qF6-yJE

[Parkbandit]

Wait.. so Harris came out and said now SHE isn't going to tax tips when she gets into office?

What?

Why did her administration start going harder after tipped positions just last year...https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bidens-irs-plans-crack-down-waiters-tips

And now she wants to make tips tax free?

And why does this have to only start when she becomes President? Does she know she's Vice President currently and could get this started now?

Or is she holding your vote hostage in exchange for this concession?

Serious question: Like how dumb do you have to be to be a Democrat voter at this point? "We have to save democracy.. so we've forced the guy who won the primary out and now we have someone you've never voted for!"

[Suppressed Poet]

Wait.. so Harris came out and said now SHE isn't going to tax tips when she gets into office?

What?

Why did her administration start going harder after tipped positions just last year...https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bidens-irs-plans-crack-down-waiters-tips

And now she wants to make tips tax free?

And why does this have to only start when she becomes President? Does she know she's Vice President currently and could get this started now?

Or is she holding your vote hostage in exchange for this concession?

Serious question: Like how dumb do you have to be to be a Democrat voter at this point? "We have to save democracy.. so we've forced the guy who won the primary out and now we have someone you've never voted for!"

Kamala will say anything to get elected and change the narrative to match favorably with her audience. Nobody knows what her actual policies and positions are. Her campaign website doesn’t provide any clarity on her political agenda.

Personally, I think not taxing on tips (without other changes to our tax system) is a bad idea. I know Trump said this and hope he either changes his mind or it doesn’t happen. The reason I think it’s a bad idea is tipping culture has gotten completely out of control since Covid, and not taxing on tips would only make that much worse.

[Alfster]

Kamala will say anything to get elected and change the narrative to match favorably with her audience.

How's that different than the moron who lost last election?

Ohhhh it's not. Okay.

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[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

How's that different than the moron who lost last election?

Ohhhh it's not. Okay.

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Trump's stance is posted on his website here https://www.donaldjtrump.com/platform. Where can I find Kamala's policies, stance or even a generic statement of what she would do as President?

[Gelston]

How's that different than the moron who lost last election?

Ohhhh it's not. Okay.

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Did you send that on your motorola one 5G ace using tapatalk?

[Suppressed Poet]

How's that different than the moron who lost last election?

Ohhhh it's not. Okay.

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https://i.yourimageshare.com/VPaUjBYZDl.jpeg

[Parkbandit]

How's that different than the moron who lost last election?

Ohhhh it's not. Okay.

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One is currently in the current administration who could do whatever she is promising to do "once she gets elected" right now.

One is currently not in the current administration.

Not sure how you are so confused by this... yet, here we are.

[Tgo01]

https://i.yourimageshare.com/VPaUjBYZDl.jpeg

Honestly if she actually implements right leaning proposals such as these then I am all for her being president, especially if she goes back to her prosecutor days of actually holding criminals accountable.

Be like all Democrats do, she will promise anything to get elected then go right back to screwing poor and middle class Americans as much as possible.