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Anebriated
10-10-2023, 09:17 AM
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I will start off by saying that the slaughter and kidnapping of innocents in unequivocally wrong whoever does it and should be punished as such(US included). But try to keep a high level view of the events taking place. Suddenly nobody cares about Ukraine or the house speaker. 75% of US Congress is dual citizens of Israel. Somehow two of the best intelligence agencies didn’t catch this attack? Or did it give them casus belli to remove the Palestinians?
I get that people change, after all look at some of the horrible things our president has said in the past and clearly he’s better now, but something here doesn’t pass the smell test.
Solkern
10-10-2023, 09:19 AM
https://i.imgur.com/4e00YXj.jpg
I will start off by saying that the slaughter and kidnapping of innocents in unequivocally wrong whoever does it and should be punished as such(US included). But try to keep a high level view of the events taking place. Suddenly nobody cares about Ukraine or the house speaker. 75% of US Congress is dual citizens of Israel. Somehow two of the best intelligence agencies didn’t catch this attack? Or did it give them casus belli to remove the Palestinians?
I get that people change, after all look at some of the horrible things our president has said in the past and clearly he’s better now, but something here doesn’t pass the smell test.
From what I read, the reason it wasn’t picked up, was for a few reasons.
1. Israel gets a fuck ton of false information, could be a result of being complacent.
2. Hamas went old school, Israel monitors a lot of communication, hamas didn’t use phones etc.
ClydeR
10-10-2023, 09:23 AM
The editorial board of Isreal's leading newspaper says Netanyahu bears responsibility..
The disaster that befell Israel on the holiday of Simchat Torah is the clear responsibility of one person: Benjamin Netanyahu. The prime minister, who has prided himself on his vast political experience and irreplaceable wisdom in security matters, completely failed to identify the dangers he was consciously leading Israel into when establishing a government of annexation and dispossession, when appointing Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben-Gvir to key positions, while embracing a foreign policy that openly ignored the existence and rights of Palestinians.
More... (https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-10-08/ty-article-opinion/netanyahu-bears-responsibility/0000018b-0b9d-d8fc-adff-6bfd1c880000)
Above all, the danger looming over Israel in recent years has been fully realized. A prime minister indicted in three corruption cases cannot look after state affairs, as national interests will necessarily be subordinate to extricating him from a possible conviction and jail time.
Suppressed Poet
10-10-2023, 09:29 AM
https://i.imgur.com/4e00YXj.jpg
I will start off by saying that the slaughter and kidnapping of innocents in unequivocally wrong whoever does it and should be punished as such(US included). But try to keep a high level view of the events taking place. Suddenly nobody cares about Ukraine or the house speaker. 75% of US Congress is dual citizens of Israel. Somehow two of the best intelligence agencies didn’t catch this attack? Or did it give them casus belli to remove the Palestinians?
I get that people change, after all look at some of the horrible things our president has said in the past and clearly he’s better now, but something here doesn’t pass the smell test.
In all fairness, I didn’t care a whole lot about Ukraine (at least our constant funding of it) before this happened, and disillusioned by the whole Speaker fiasco.
I tend to suspect government incompetence before I do a Bond villain level conspiracy theory, but I get your point. We’ll never know. My counter would be government intelligence just fucks up and misses things all the time, and we rarely if ever hear about the times they got it right.
Anebriated
10-10-2023, 09:31 AM
There is no way you dont take a threat that would occur on the anniversary of one of the bloodiest fights the country has ever had seriously
Anebriated
10-10-2023, 09:33 AM
In all fairness, I didn’t care a whole lot about Ukraine (at least our constant funding of it) before this happened, and disillusioned by the whole Speaker fiasco.
I tend to suspect government incompetence before I do a Bond villain level conspiracy theory, but I get your point. We’ll never know. My counter would be government intelligence just fucks up and misses things all the time, and we rarely if ever hear about the times they got it right.
I agree. I do tend to dabble in the conspiracy realm because, like the intelligence world, i like to see everything out there, come up with my own conclusions, and then see how things play out.
when you stand back from the situation you can watch the mass psychosis play out in real time. Watch people move from one cause to the next without any real idea why or what they are supporting, they just know that everyone else is and if they dont people might wonder why they arent supporting the cause. It can be alienating at times and its a scarier perspective overall, ignorance is bliss i guess.
Suppressed Poet
10-10-2023, 09:45 AM
I agree. I do tend to dabble in the conspiracy realm because, like the intelligence world, i like to see everything out there, come up with my own conclusions, and then see how things play out.
when you stand back from the situation you can watch the mass psychosis play out in real time. Watch people move from one cause to the next without any real idea why or what they are supporting, they just know that everyone else is and if they dont people might wonder why they arent supporting the cause. It can be alienating at times and its a scarier perspective overall, ignorance is bliss i guess.
I wouldn’t put it past most politicians to allow something like that for their own reasons, but my experience has been the majority of people that work in politics (or the public sector in general) can’t even tie their shoes properly. Who knows…I agree ignorance is bliss.
Anebriated
10-10-2023, 09:48 AM
I wouldn’t put it past most politicians to allow something like that for their own reasons, but my experience has been the majority of people that work in politics (or the public sector in general) can’t even tie their shoes properly. Who knows…I agree ignorance is bliss.
yeah, people dont go into politics to be public servants anymore. they go in for that sweet sweet lobby money to enrich themselves. Both sides of the isle. I definitely lean right but I'd wager 90% of congress in corrupt and should be dealt with accordingly.
Suppressed Poet
10-10-2023, 09:49 AM
Also…yes the human psychosis playing out in real time is fascinating and I’m not above it. We humans are genetically programmed to organize & fight together when facing a common enemy, just like ants.
~Rocktar~
10-10-2023, 09:56 AM
All this Monday morning quarterbacking is just a distraction. The fault lies solidly and fully at the feet of Hamas and those that pull their strings. You can make whatever excuses you want, explanations for failure of intelligence, manipulations, reasons for action and so on, in the end, it comes down to Hamas deciding to slaughter people. When you own a gun, you can argue for all the reasons to pull the trigger, in the end, it is YOU who decides to shoot or not shoot. It's on you. In the same manner, it's on Hamas and Hamas alone.
Suppressed Poet
10-10-2023, 10:02 AM
All this Monday morning quarterbacking is just a distraction. The fault lies solidly and fully at the feet of Hamas and those that pull their strings. You can make whatever excuses you want, explanations for failure of intelligence, manipulations, reasons for action and so on, in the end, it comes down to Hamas deciding to slaughter people. When you own a gun, you can argue for all the reasons to pull the trigger, in the end, it is YOU who decides to shoot or not shoot. It's on you. In the same manner, it's on Hamas and Hamas alone.
Absolutely true.
In fact a lot of people are blaming Biden directly for causing this. As much as I despise that man I think it’s taking it way too far. The prisoner swap & unfreezing of $6 billion was at best bad optics and at worst just a helping hand to what Iran was already going to do. I don’t give him a pass or anything, but let’s hold those directly responsible for this accountable. I’ll judge Biden’s response to this conflict by his actions from this point. History says he’ll fuck this up too, but we’ll see.
Anebriated
10-10-2023, 10:08 AM
Absolutely true.
In fact a lot of people are blaming Biden directly for causing this. As much as I despise that man I think it’s taking it way too far. The prisoner swap & unfreezing of $6 billion was at best bad optics and at worst just a helping hand to what Iran was already going to do. I don’t give him a pass or anything, but let’s hold those directly responsible for this accountable. I’ll judge Biden’s response to this conflict by his actions from this point. History says he’ll fuck this up too, but we’ll see.
The 6b didnt help but the real issue was immediately upon taking office he allowed them to increase their oil production from ~400k barrels/day @$50 or so to 3m barrels/day at $80+
Methais
10-10-2023, 10:09 AM
I agree. I do tend to dabble in the conspiracy realm because, like the intelligence world, i like to see everything out there, come up with my own conclusions, and then see how things play out.
when you stand back from the situation you can watch the mass psychosis play out in real time. Watch people move from one cause to the next without any real idea why or what they are supporting, they just know that everyone else is and if they dont people might wonder why they arent supporting the cause. It can be alienating at times and its a scarier perspective overall, ignorance is bliss i guess.
https://i.imgur.com/fxWsLl4.jpg
Parkbandit
10-10-2023, 10:36 AM
75% of US Congress is dual citizens of Israel.
75% seems very, very inflated. That's 400 members of Congress.
I don't believe this is even remotely accurate.
Parkbandit
10-10-2023, 10:39 AM
The editorial board of Isreal's leading newspaper says Netanyahu bears responsibility..
Well if it's in a newspaper.. it has to be true!
PROTIP: ISRAEL is the name of the country.
ISREAL is not a word, unless you use it in this context: ClydeR is a cowardly, little sniveling piece of shit and his retardation ISREAL.
That is the only acceptable usage of the term "ISREAL"
Parkbandit
10-10-2023, 10:42 AM
You're being mealy-mouthed again.
State the names. Put their party behind the names.
Here, I'll start for you:
Democrats:
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
Rashida Tlaib
Jamaal Bowman
Summer Lee
Ilhan Omar
Cori Bush
Andre Carson
Delia Ramirez
Ayanna Pressley
Betty McCollum
Now go ahead and list out all the Republicans that stand with Hamas.
We will wait.
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ClydeR
10-10-2023, 12:20 PM
All this Monday morning quarterbacking is just a distraction. The fault lies solidly and fully at the feet of Hamas and those that pull their strings. You can make whatever excuses you want, explanations for failure of intelligence, manipulations, reasons for action and so on, in the end, it comes down to Hamas deciding to slaughter people. When you own a gun, you can argue for all the reasons to pull the trigger, in the end, it is YOU who decides to shoot or not shoot. It's on you. In the same manner, it's on Hamas and Hamas alone.
Says the person who two days ago said..
... So, to highlight how Biden caused this for the morons....
Anebriated
10-10-2023, 12:28 PM
75% seems very, very inflated. That's 400 members of Congress.
I don't believe this is even remotely accurate.
Ill try to find it again and I probably inflated it or mixed it up with another stat(probably isnt Israel only as I had stated) but there is no disclosure necessary which should probably change.
Methais
10-10-2023, 12:34 PM
Israeli Soldiers Discover Bodies of 40 Babies, Some Beheaded (https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/10/10/horror-israeli-soldiers-discover-bodies-of-40-babies-some-beheaded-n2164890)
In before Seran blames Trump
ClydeR
10-10-2023, 12:39 PM
75% seems very, very inflated. That's 400 members of Congress.
I don't believe this is even remotely accurate.
I was shocked by that statistic too. I Googled and found that more than 80% of U.S. Senators have dual citizenship. I stopped Googling at that point and decided to accept it. It's curious, though. I wonder if Israel gives honorary citizenship to every member of Congress who visits.
Suppressed Poet
10-10-2023, 02:16 PM
I was shocked by that statistic too. I Googled and found that more than 80% of U.S. Senators have dual citizenship. I stopped Googling at that point and decided to accept it. It's curious, though. I wonder if Israel gives honorary citizenship to every member of Congress who visits.
Seems high to me too but I guess it’s possible. The other week I was like “what the hell is going on” with so many of the corporate bankers I work with were all out & unreachable. One of them responded to me responded to me it’s Yom Kippur and proceeded to tell me all the unnecessary details of why & what they are doing. Anyways…yeah Chews are a small minority in the USA but they do seem to dominate the banking industry & high levels of politics. But don’t say that out loud because they are very sensitive to that fact.
Neveragain
10-10-2023, 02:31 PM
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Chicago BLM chapter posted this.
Where's Time4killingJews at?
time4fun
10-10-2023, 02:44 PM
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Chicago BLM chapter posted this.
Where's Time4killingJews at?
What lovely timing.
My partner and his family are Jewish, and I work for an Israeli-based company now. So kindly fuck off.
Tgo01
10-10-2023, 02:46 PM
What lovely timing.
My partner and his family are Jewish, and I work for an Israeli-based company now. So kindly fuck off.
So do you distance yourself from BLM who are siding with the savage terrorists who are slaughtering babies, children, and other innocent civilians?
Neveragain
10-10-2023, 03:05 PM
What lovely timing.
My partner and his family are Jewish, and I work for an Israeli-based company now. So kindly fuck off.
So you agree that BLM is a terrorist organization.
"I have black friends" ~ Time4KillingJews
Tgo01
10-10-2023, 03:07 PM
This is what huge hypocrites the left has become.
They'll gladly support both sides even though one side is openly calling for the murder of the other side.
Seran
10-10-2023, 03:07 PM
So do you distance yourself from BLM who are siding with the savage terrorists who are slaughtering babies, children, and other innocent civilians?
Do you disavow things based upon posts made on online forums everytime you see a random claim, or is this just a special bit of dog whistling your asking folks to do.
Tgo01
10-10-2023, 03:08 PM
Do you disavow things based upon posts made on online forums everytime you see a random claim
Random claim? People from BLM are literally gathering in the street in their support of the Hamas terrorists, openly blaming Jews for their own murders.
Why do you disgusting Democrats pretend this shit isn't happening and it's just some random anonymous post on X or something?
But I'll go ahead and preempt any further disgusting argument you can make: I hereby disavow ANYONE, Republican, Democrat, or otherwise, who sides with Hamas and blames Israel for being attacked.
Seran
10-10-2023, 03:14 PM
Random claim? People from BLM are literally gathering in the street in their support of the Hamas terrorists, openly blaming Jews for their own murders.
Why do you disgusting Democrats pretend this shit isn't happening and it's just some random anonymous post on X or something?
But I'll go ahead and preempt any further disgusting argument you can make: I hereby disavow ANYONE, Republican, Democrat, or otherwise, who sides with Hamas and blames Israel for being attacked.
So your belief is that something Neveragain saw and claims was posted by a Chicago BLM account represents the entire BLM movement somehow? If your local House representative made a claim, would you also assume it represents the entirety of the GOP platform? Use your brain for once.
Neveragain
10-10-2023, 03:15 PM
I sided with a terrorist organization and I'm having a really hard time crawling out from under my really fucking bad decision to side with terrorists that were burning down American cities.
Your first sign should have been that they were burning down American business's and homes...
Not difficult.
Neveragain
10-10-2023, 03:16 PM
So your belief is that something Neveragain saw and claims was posted by a Chicago BLM account represents the entire BLM movement somehow? If your local House representative made a claim, would you also assume it represents the entirety of the GOP platform? Use your brain for once.
It's on the Chicago BLM website, but..I digress.
Tgo01
10-10-2023, 03:28 PM
So your belief is that something Neveragain saw and claims was posted by a Chicago BLM account represents the entire BLM movement somehow?
Do you at least disavow the Chicago chapter of BLM and distance yourself from them?
What about you, time4fun? Can you at least disavow the Chicago chapter of BLM? You know, since you supposedly care so much about your partner's Jewish family and all.
Neveragain
10-10-2023, 03:32 PM
Do you at least disavow the Chicago chapter of BLM and distance yourself from them?
What about you, time4fun? Can you at least disavow the Chicago chapter of BLM? You know, since you supposedly care so much about your partner's Jewish family and all.
You damn well know that the "richest person on players corner" donated to the terrorists.
Parkbandit
10-10-2023, 03:40 PM
This is what huge hypocrites the left has become.
They'll gladly support both sides even though one side is openly calling for the murder of the other side.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F75JUdsbkAAEn3P.png
I believe these fine folks should go to "Palestine" and march in the street to show their support.
Parkbandit
10-10-2023, 03:41 PM
Do you at least disavow the Chicago chapter of BLM and distance yourself from them?
What about you, time4fun? Can you at least disavow the Chicago chapter of BLM? You know, since you supposedly care so much about your partner's Jewish family and all.
I thought BLM went tits up after spending all their "social justice" money on bitches, hoes and new homes?
Seran
10-10-2023, 03:41 PM
Do you at least disavow the Chicago chapter of BLM and distance yourself from them?
What about you, time4fun? Can you at least disavow the Chicago chapter of BLM? You know, since you supposedly care so much about your partner's Jewish family and all.
I get it, you think that everyone needs to kowtow to your personal demands that they speak to any issue whenever you want, simply because you've demanded a position. But surely when your premise is so far out of wakadoo land that people simply ignore your posts you understand it's because you're a nut job and their refusing to engage is because of your abhorant perspective?
Seran
10-10-2023, 03:42 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F75JUdsbkAAEn3P.png
I believe these fine folks should go to "Palestine" and march in the street to show their support.
Better watch out, Dreaven is gonna see this and assume three people holding up a banner means all LGBT+ people everywhere agree with the banner!
Tgo01
10-10-2023, 03:46 PM
I get it, you think that everyone needs to kowtow to your personal demands that they speak to any issue whenever you want, simply because you've demanded a position. But surely when your premise is so far out of wakadoo land that people simply ignore your posts you understand it's because you're a nut job and their refusing to engage is because of your abhorant perspective?
So, no, you won't at the very least disavow the Chicago chapter of BLM even though they are supporting the baby butchers known as Hamas.
You are the perfect example of what I said earlier about leftists who support both sides even though one side is openly calling for the murder of the other side.
Hitler would be proud of you.
Parkbandit
10-10-2023, 03:53 PM
Better watch out, Dreaven is gonna see this and assume three people holding up a banner means all LGBT+ people everywhere agree with the banner!
Most probably do.. because it's so "edgy" and LGBTSDDSJFISHDOIEDN32werfwefwef@@22324qwssrsadfcsc s people strive to be so edgy.
Suppressed Poet
10-10-2023, 03:54 PM
So, no, you won't at the very least disavow the Chicago chapter of BLM even though they are supporting the baby butchers known as Hamas.
You are the perfect example of what I said earlier about leftists who support both sides even though one side is openly calling for the murder of the other side.
Hitler would be proud of you.
Hitler would stick Seran in a camp with the rest of the retards.
Mao could only dream of such a perfect loyal subject for his cultural revolution. I’ve been saying for years Seran = Mao’s wet dream.
Methais
10-10-2023, 04:13 PM
What lovely timing.
My partner and his family are Jewish, and I work for an Israeli-based company now. So kindly fuck off.
For years it was your "boyfriend" and now suddenly it's your "partner."
Which one of you is the they/them now?
Asking for Latrin's mom.
Methais
10-10-2023, 04:17 PM
So your belief is that something Neveragain saw and claims was posted by a Chicago BLM account represents the entire BLM movement somehow? If your local House representative made a claim, would you also assume it represents the entirety of the GOP platform? Use your brain for once.
https://i.imgur.com/dwBOp2L.png (https://twitter.com/BLMChi/status/1711793142742073573)
https://twitter.com/BLMChi/status/1711793142742073573
It's trending, and it's not just the Chicago chapter posting it:
https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Black%20Lives%20Matter%22&src=trend_click&vertical=trends
You useless fucking dumbass.
Tgo01
10-10-2023, 04:20 PM
For years now the Serans of the GS community has been calling me a Nazi, and now here they are, actively supporting people who are calling for the extermination of as many Jews as possible, and also actively supporting a terrorist group who just recently murdered hundreds of Jews, including babies and children.
Your projection game is weak, you fucking Serans.
Methais
10-10-2023, 04:21 PM
I get it, you think that everyone needs to kowtow to your personal demands that they speak to any issue whenever you want, simply because you've demanded a position. But surely when your premise is so far out of wakadoo land that people simply ignore your posts you understand it's because you're a nut job and their refusing to engage is because of your abhorant perspective?
https://i.imgur.com/Gnlc5f7.jpg
I'll put you down as a "no."
You stupid cuck.
Suppressed Poet
10-10-2023, 04:23 PM
For years it was your "boyfriend" and now suddenly it's your "partner."
Which one of you is the they/them now?
Asking for Latrin's mom.
I was curious about this too. Is it a business partner or does that mean romantic interest? Just seems like an odd way to refer to your significant other, but what do I know..
Tgo01
10-10-2023, 04:24 PM
Just seems like an odd way to refer to your significant other, but what do I know..
Wouldn't surprise me if her boyfriend jumped on the pronouns bandwagon and prefers to be referred to as they/them so now she legally can't refer to him as her boyfriend any longer.
Although she did say "his" family, so who knows?
Seran
10-10-2023, 04:33 PM
Even funnier when you realize that account isn't actually Affiliated with the Black Lives Matter group. From their website:
Black Lives Matter Chicago
Posted 02/24/2021
Did you know we are apart of #BLM10 not the national entity that is courting the Democratic Party and that raked in $90 million last year?
Read our statement and call for transparency and radical democracy.
We are independent. We call for radical mass movement.
Our chapter refused to meet with the White House in 2016 (read here: https://truthout.org/.../black-struggle-is-not-a-sound.../) and we remain opposed to being used as a vessel of the political parties in power whose sole purpose is to crush movement through cooption, violence, demobilization, death, torture.
We rise in solidarity with the other chapters who left, chapters who changed their names, and chapters who remain principled in the fight for Black liberation.
So here we have a group touting the re-emergence of the Black Panthers who have adopted the slogan Black Lives Matter, and idiots like Dreaven are dog whistling to the other white supremecists they represent the views of the actual Black Lives Matter movement. Shows you just how ignorant and gullable the far right is.
Ramrod
10-10-2023, 04:33 PM
Random claim? People from BLM are literally gathering in the street in their support of the Hamas terrorists, openly blaming Jews for their own murders.
Why do you disgusting Democrats pretend this shit isn't happening and it's just some random anonymous post on X or something?
But I'll go ahead and preempt any further disgusting argument you can make: I hereby disavow ANYONE, Republican, Democrat, or otherwise, who sides with Hamas and blames Israel for being attacked.
I'm independent and vote left/independent. Fuck Hamas, fuck anyone that supports Hamas and fuck anyone that won't condemn the actions of Hamas. I don't care if we have some common ground politically. I don't support beheading babies and I don't support anyone that fails to condemn that shit. Holding a pro-Palestine rally while Hamas is threatening to livestream killing civilian hostages sends the message that you support the actions of Hamas. I'm looking at you, AOC/Democratic Socialists.
Suppressed Poet
10-10-2023, 04:38 PM
I'm independent and vote left/independent. Fuck Hamas, fuck anyone that supports Hamas and fuck anyone that won't condemn the actions of Hamas. I don't care if we have some common ground politically. I don't support beheading babies and I don't support anyone that fails to condemn that shit. Holding a pro-Palestine rally while Hamas is threatening to livestream killing civilian hostages sends the message that you support the actions of Hamas. I'm looking at you, AOC/Democratic Socialists.
Word and good for you. There are lots of things Americans can disagree on politically, but I think the overwhelming majority of Americans can agree Hamas terrorism = bad. It’s not a left or right thing. This is basic morality.
Methais
10-10-2023, 04:39 PM
Even funnier when you realize that account isn't actually Affiliated with the Black Lives Matter group. From their website:
So here we have a group touting the re-emergence of the Black Panthers who have adopted the slogan Black Lives Matter, and idiots like Dreaven are dog whistling to the other white supremecists they represent the views of the actual Black Lives Matter movement. Shows you just how ignorant and gullable the far right is.
"Guys it's not really BLM, it's the OTHER BLM!" -Seran
https://media1.giphy.com/media/kIVVupOM0VoW3bNuU7/giphy.gif
Is this one here the other OTHER BLM?
https://i.imgur.com/gHs8Xdl.png (https://x.com/ukblm/status/1710914507646595124?s=20)
https://x.com/ukblm/status/1710914507646595124?s=20
Stop being such a retarded unwashed scumbag piece of shit.
time4fun
10-10-2023, 04:41 PM
This is a really complex situation, and simplistic stances aren't helpful.
It's not wrong to say you want freedom for the Palestinian people. They deserve it.
But Hamas is every bit as much an occupying force in the West Bank as Israel is: they took their own territories by force. They do not represent Palestine in any capacity official or unofficial, and they're not a bunch of scrappy freedom fighters. Their mission is the eradication of Israel. So those people who are standing and cheering Palestine on for fighting back are fucking idiots who have no idea what's going on.
But also, in the US we get a VERY incomplete narrative of the whole situation to the point where it's bordering on propaganda. Most people rushing out to say "I stand with Israel" also probably have no idea what's been going on.
Israel's occupation of Palestine has been brutal- especially the last two years. 260 Palestinians had already been killed by Israeli forces and settlers this year alone, including over 40 children, before this war started. Israel and Egypt control every inch of Palestine's borders, and Israel routinely cuts off power and water to Palestine. They'll embargo medicine for weeks at a time. They are STILL rapidly creating new settlements by bulldozing Palestinian homes and refugee camps. 64% of people in Palestine live with food insecurity and about 50% live in poverty.
Personally I stand against Hamas and with the Israeli and Palestinian PEOPLE. But there are no "good guys" in this war, in my opinion. Just countless Israeli and Palestinian victims.
Methais
10-10-2023, 04:45 PM
This is a really complex situation, and simplistic stances aren't helpful.
It's not wrong to say you want freedom for the Palestinian people. They deserve it.
But Hamas is every bit as much an occupying force in the West Bank as Israel is: they took their own territories by force. They do not represent Palestine in any capacity official or unofficial, and they're not a bunch of scrappy freedom fighters. Their mission is the eradication of Israel. So those people who are standing and cheering Palestine on for fighting back are fucking idiots who have no idea what's going on.
But also, in the US we get a VERY incomplete narrative of the whole situation to the point where it's bordering on propaganda. Most people rushing out to say "I stand with Israel" also probably have no idea what's been going on.
Israel's occupation of Palestine has been brutal- especially the last two years. 260 Palestinians had already been killed by Israeli forces and settlers this year alone, including over 40 children, before this war started. Israel and Egypt control every inch of Palestine's borders, and Israel routinely cuts off power and water to Palestine. They'll embargo medicine for weeks at a time. They are STILL rapidly creating new settlements by bulldozing Palestinian homes and refugee camps. 64% of people in Palestine live with food insecurity and about 50% live in poverty.
Personally I stand against Hamas and with the Israeli and Palestinian PEOPLE. But there are no "good guys" in this war, in my opinion. Just countless Israeli and Palestinian victims.
Be sure to let us know when "Palestinians" start fighting against Hamas too.
Suppressed Poet
10-10-2023, 04:54 PM
This is a really complex situation, and simplistic stances aren't helpful.
It's not wrong to say you want freedom for the Palestinian people. They deserve it.
But Hamas is every bit as much an occupying force in the West Bank as Israel is: they took their own territories by force. They do not represent Palestine in any capacity official or unofficial, and they're not a bunch of scrappy freedom fighters. Their mission is the eradication of Israel. So those people who are standing and cheering Palestine on for fighting back are fucking idiots who have no idea what's going on.
But also, in the US we get a VERY incomplete narrative of the whole situation to the point where it's bordering on propaganda. Most people rushing out to say "I stand with Israel" also probably have no idea what's been going on.
Israel's occupation of Palestine has been brutal- especially the last two years. 260 Palestinians had already been killed by Israeli forces and settlers this year alone, including over 40 children, before this war started. Israel and Egypt control every inch of Palestine's borders, and Israel routinely cuts off power and water to Palestine. They'll embargo medicine for weeks at a time. They are STILL rapidly creating new settlements by bulldozing Palestinian homes and refugee camps. 64% of people in Palestine live with food insecurity and about 50% live in poverty.
Personally I stand against Hamas and with the Israeli and Palestinian PEOPLE. But there are no "good guys" in this war, in my opinion. Just countless Israeli and Palestinian victims.
Wow.
Palestine isn’t a nation nor have they ever been one. Why is Israel expected to be tolerant of them when the surrounding Muslim nations are not except to use them as a political tool against Israel?
No matter how you feel, the situation with Gaza is fucked up and unsustainable. Israelis are no saints but they are by far the civilized rational ones in comparison to Palestinians, who overwhelmingly support Hamas.
Needless to say that I disagree with you. I support Israel kicking them out of Gaza once and for all, like they should have done back in the Six Day War. That’s the only way they can achieve a lasting peace.
~Rocktar~
10-10-2023, 04:59 PM
This is a really complex situation, and simplistic stances aren't helpful.
It's not wrong to say you want freedom for the Palestinian people. They deserve it.
But Hamas is every bit as much an occupying force in the West Bank as Israel is: they took their own territories by force. They do not represent Palestine in any capacity official or unofficial, and they're not a bunch of scrappy freedom fighters. Their mission is the eradication of Israel. So those people who are standing and cheering Palestine on for fighting back are fucking idiots who have no idea what's going on.
But also, in the US we get a VERY incomplete narrative of the whole situation to the point where it's bordering on propaganda. Most people rushing out to say "I stand with Israel" also probably have no idea what's been going on.
Israel's occupation of Palestine has been brutal- especially the last two years. 260 Palestinians had already been killed by Israeli forces and settlers this year alone, including over 40 children, before this war started. Israel and Egypt control every inch of Palestine's borders, and Israel routinely cuts off power and water to Palestine. They'll embargo medicine for weeks at a time. They are STILL rapidly creating new settlements by bulldozing Palestinian homes and refugee camps. 64% of people in Palestine live with food insecurity and about 50% live in poverty.
Personally I stand against Hamas and with the Israeli and Palestinian PEOPLE. But there are no "good guys" in this war, in my opinion. Just countless Israeli and Palestinian victims.
You act like Palestine was ever a country. They are Arabs. They were in Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt and Syria and they all kicked them out as political tools. Then when offered their OWN country, 6 times, SIX FUCKING TIMES you fucking retard, they said no because it required allowing Israel to exist, a nation based on a people who actually DO have a history of owning and governing the region. And then, on top of that Israel has given them food, water, power, education, work and citizenship even after being turned down SIX FUCKING TIMES offering them a country. In exchange, Israel has gotten blood, rockets, crime and death. And just when we started to see a real bit of progress, Creepy Joe removes sanctions and cuts oil to fund both Russian and Iran, gives Hamas foreign aid and dumps 6 billion on Iran. Iranian leadership, being a lovely piece of shitbags that should have been decapitated in 1979 turns around and funds their proxy war and we get this.
So, after showing immense restraint after decades of rockets, murders, bombings and so on, they go way too far. The fanatic Muslim leadership in Hamas and the surrounding countries and the Leftist simp boot lickers in the Western world supporting this terrorism have got to go. And with the latest mass murders, war crimes and slaughter of children have made sure that most of the rational world doesn't give a fuck what has to happen to make that a reality. So, in the end, they decided to do this, they were pushed but they decided to do it. Now they get to see what real war is like and you and all your Leftist sympathizers, terrorist supporters/rationalizers and idiots spouting fake compassion can go fuck yourselves and know that all the blood, every drop of it, is on your hands by proxy.
Defending the animals after watching the the videos and seeing the pictures of the bodies in the streets makes you complicit. Fuck you. Fuck off. Hope you don't have to suffer in America in a similar way for your bad decisions. It's easy to say you stand against Hamas when you fund them.
Go away.
Tgo01
10-10-2023, 05:01 PM
This is a really complex situation
They beheaded babies. Fuck you and your "it's a really complex situation!"
Fuck you so fucking hard, you fucking Nazi.
~Rocktar~
10-10-2023, 05:03 PM
Wow.
Palestine isn’t a nation nor have they ever been one. Why is Israel expected to be tolerant of them when the surrounding Muslim nations are not except to use them as a political tool against Israel?
No matter how you feel, the situation with Gaza is fucked up and unsustainable. Israelis are no saints but they are by far the civilized rational ones in comparison to Palestinians, who overwhelmingly support Hamas.
Needless to say that I disagree with you. I support Israel kicking them out of Gaza once and for all, like they should have done back in the Six Day War. That’s the only way they can achieve a lasting peace.
I am to the point, they should have held every inch of land they ever took. And they should announce something like:
You kill hostages, we will publicly execute prisoners.
If we run out of prisoners, we will start with your civilians. You think it's fun to murder, rape and butcher, you wanted a holy war, now you have one. Release all prisoners now, you have 24 hours.
Then I would run the war with no prisoner capture. They have already told the civilians to get out.
If the Palestinians lay down their weapons, there will be peace. If the Israelis lay down their weapons, there will be a massacre Golda Meir
Methais
10-10-2023, 05:03 PM
Wow.
Palestine isn’t a nation nor have they ever been one. Why is Israel expected to be tolerant of them when the surrounding Muslim nations are not except to use them as a political tool against Israel?
No matter how you feel, the situation with Gaza is fucked up and unsustainable. Israelis are no saints but they are by far the civilized rational ones in comparison to Palestinians, who overwhelmingly support Hamas.
Needless to say that I disagree with you. I support Israel kicking them out of Gaza once and for all, like they should have done back in the Six Day War. That’s the only way they can achieve a lasting peace.
It's because she lies constantly, while also always claiming to have some sort of direct or indirect tie to and/or unique "experience" that makes her an expert on the subject, regardless of what the subject at the time is, all of which is in her posting history.
In this case it's her "partner."
TLDR: She lies a lot.
~Rocktar~
10-10-2023, 05:09 PM
Oh, and every single Hamas or Hezbollah fighter killed should be tossed in a shallow grave, face down, their mouth stuffed with pork fat and pig shit and then incinerated.
Welcome to the real meaning of holy war.
~Rocktar~
10-10-2023, 05:12 PM
https://youtu.be/2ZtxsT3nYfA?si=uzEU-E1iCtM30JD-
Ramrod
10-10-2023, 05:28 PM
This is a really complex situation
It's really not - Murdering civilians is wrong regardless of any past or current injustices against you.
Anything beyond that discussion is just giving tacit approval to the actions of Hamas by muddying the waters.
Suppressed Poet
10-10-2023, 05:49 PM
Oh, and every single Hamas or Hezbollah fighter killed should be tossed in a shallow grave, face down, their mouth stuffed with pork fat and pig shit and then incinerated.
Welcome to the real meaning of holy war.
I’m with you feeling that way but I don’t think they should stoop to the level of barbarism that Hamas has shown. That’s not what civilized nations do and Israel holds legitimacy & authority purely for being a superior Western style nation in a region of savages. They just need to invade Gaza, kill any terrorists that puts up any kind of resistance, round up and march the remaining refugees off the Strip. Whatever happens to them when they arrive wherever isn’t on Israel.
…But sticking an Oscar Mayer wiener up their cold dead bum-bum is totally what they deserve.
Anebriated
10-10-2023, 05:57 PM
Set up a corridor of safe travel for the women and children to leave in peace. Let god decide the rest.
Methais
10-10-2023, 06:26 PM
Someone should tell Hamas that their name begins with HAM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFPLLARttwg
~Rocktar~
10-10-2023, 07:07 PM
I’m with you feeling that way but I don’t think they should stoop to the level of barbarism that Hamas has shown. That’s not what civilized nations do and Israel holds legitimacy & authority purely for being a superior Western style nation in a region of savages. They just need to invade Gaza, kill any terrorists that puts up any kind of resistance, round up and march the remaining refugees off the Strip. Whatever happens to them when they arrive wherever isn’t on Israel.
…But sticking an Oscar Mayer wiener up their cold dead bum-bum is totally what they deserve.
You don't handle a rabid dog with a kids glove. Fifty years of blood has proven that.
~Rocktar~
10-10-2023, 07:09 PM
Set up a corridor of safe travel for the women and children to leave in peace. Let god decide the rest.
I could go with this though you never know how many are also terrorists.
Parkbandit
10-10-2023, 07:23 PM
This is a really complex situation, and simplistic stances aren't helpful.
It's not wrong to say you want freedom for the Palestinian people. They deserve it.
But Hamas is every bit as much an occupying force in the West Bank as Israel is: they took their own territories by force. They do not represent Palestine in any capacity official or unofficial, and they're not a bunch of scrappy freedom fighters. Their mission is the eradication of Israel. So those people who are standing and cheering Palestine on for fighting back are fucking idiots who have no idea what's going on.
But also, in the US we get a VERY incomplete narrative of the whole situation to the point where it's bordering on propaganda. Most people rushing out to say "I stand with Israel" also probably have no idea what's been going on.
Israel's occupation of Palestine has been brutal- especially the last two years. 260 Palestinians had already been killed by Israeli forces and settlers this year alone, including over 40 children, before this war started. Israel and Egypt control every inch of Palestine's borders, and Israel routinely cuts off power and water to Palestine. They'll embargo medicine for weeks at a time. They are STILL rapidly creating new settlements by bulldozing Palestinian homes and refugee camps. 64% of people in Palestine live with food insecurity and about 50% live in poverty.
Personally I stand against Hamas and with the Israeli and Palestinian PEOPLE. But there are no "good guys" in this war, in my opinion. Just countless Israeli and Palestinian victims.
LOL.
Your cuntiness never ceases to amaze me.
Does your "partner" cringe this hard when he reads your stupidity too?
Anebriated
10-10-2023, 07:24 PM
https://i.imgur.com/KSy4V4e.jpg
Tgo01
10-10-2023, 07:35 PM
"But...but it's just the Chicago chapter of BLM!" - Seran
Ramrod
10-10-2023, 07:55 PM
"But...but it's just the Chicago chapter of BLM!" - Seran
It definitely wasn't also the Democratic Socialists of America too:
https://x.com/DemSocialists/status/1710857370371559516?s=20
What happened to ACAB because of one bad apple? Doesn't apply to their own I guess.
time4fun
10-10-2023, 08:10 PM
Wow.
Palestine isn’t a nation nor have they ever been one. Why is Israel expected to be tolerant of them when the surrounding Muslim nations are not except to use them as a political tool against Israel?
No matter how you feel, the situation with Gaza is fucked up and unsustainable. Israelis are no saints but they are by far the civilized rational ones in comparison to Palestinians, who overwhelmingly support Hamas.
Needless to say that I disagree with you. I support Israel kicking them out of Gaza once and for all, like they should have done back in the Six Day War. That’s the only way they can achieve a lasting peace.
Hamas is not a part of the Palestinian National Authority. (i.e. the State of Palestine) It's a terrorist group that used a mixture of politics and weapons to take over Gaza in the 90s (HUGE irony here) Gaza is a completely separate territory, and Hamas runs everything there. They co-exist peacefully with the PNA, but they are officially enemies.
As for Palestinian support of Hamas, it's not what you think it is. Even in Gaza, support is less than 60%. And they have something like 40% support in the West Bank.
And Israel very much created the circumstances that have allowed Hamas to thrive. Israel has been literally starving the Palestinian people for decades. Part of their occupation strategy has been to keep food, medicine, and fuel levels far below what the population needs- that is when they're allowing those things into Palestine at all. You want to know why people started supporting Hamas? Because Hamas was feeding them and giving them medicine and clothing. People literally depended on them for survival because of Israel. I don't think you quite get how horrific life has been under Israeli occupation.
The people in Gaza depend entirely on Hamas for everything, and people believe (very reasonably) that Hamas is the only thing keeping Israel from taking over Gaza and kicking all of the Palestinians out. (not that there's any place for them to go, by the way) Of course, Hamas also uses civilians as human shields. They're horrible. And that should tell you a lot about how dire things are for the people in Gaza.
I'll also remind you that Israel has absolutely no legal right to occupy any part of Palestine. No more than Russia had any right to annex and invade Ukraine. They're actually VERY similar situations in terms of the motivations for the occupying countries. Except Russia isn't forcing Ukraine to live in poverty for decades. And they're not killing Ukrainians in occupied areas to make room for more Russian settlements (at least not that I'm aware of).
The Palestinians aren't "savages"- they are real human beings in a horrific situation that they didn't ask for. Hamas is fucking evil, no doubt. They're an anti-semetic cancer whose main goal is to eradicate Israel.
But that doesn't make Israel the "good guy" here. Sometimes there are no good guys. Just bad guys and even worse ones.
Tgo01
10-10-2023, 08:33 PM
time4fun is going through her usual mental gymnastics to pretend the people who are literally defending the actions of Hamas are simply concerned about the other citizens of Gaza. As if the vast majority of people in Gaza don't support Hamas to begin with.
But what else is new? time4fun has been open about her being a Nazi for many years now.
Suppressed Poet
10-10-2023, 08:37 PM
Hamas is not a part of the Palestinian National Authority. (i.e. the State of Palestine) It's a terrorist group that used a mixture of politics and weapons to take over Gaza in the 90s (HUGE irony here) Gaza is a completely separate territory, and Hamas runs everything there. They co-exist peacefully with the PNA, but they are officially enemies.
As for Palestinian support of Hamas, it's not what you think it is. Even in Gaza, support is less than 60%. And they have something like 40% support in the West Bank.
And Israel very much created the circumstances that have allowed Hamas to thrive. Israel has been literally starving the Palestinian people for decades. Part of their occupation strategy has been to keep food, medicine, and fuel levels far below what the population needs- that is when they're allowing those things into Palestine at all. You want to know why people started supporting Hamas? Because Hamas was feeding them and giving them medicine and clothing. People literally depended on them for survival because of Israel. I don't think you quite get how horrific life has been under Israeli occupation.
The people in Gaza depend entirely on Hamas for everything, and people believe (very reasonably) that Hamas is the only thing keeping Israel from taking over Gaza and kicking all of the Palestinians out. (not that there's any place for them to go, by the way) Of course, Hamas also uses civilians as human shields. They're horrible. And that should tell you a lot about how dire things are for the people in Gaza.
I'll also remind you that Israel has absolutely no legal right to occupy any part of Palestine. No more than Russia had any right to annex and invade Ukraine. They're actually VERY similar situations in terms of the motivations for the occupying countries. Except Russia isn't forcing Ukraine to live in poverty for decades. And they're not killing Ukrainians in occupied areas to make room for more Russian settlements (at least not that I'm aware of).
The Palestinians aren't "savages"- they are real human beings in a horrific situation that they didn't ask for. Hamas is fucking evil, no doubt. They're an anti-semetic cancer whose main goal is to eradicate Israel.
But that doesn't make Israel the "good guy" here. Sometimes there are no good guys. Just bad guys and even worse ones.
Palestinians are savage human beings. They elected Hamas in 2006 and most of the Palestinians today still support them. They are the bad guys in this war, just like Russia is with Ukraine. I’m sure there are good decent Russians and Palestinians alike, but unfortunately this is war. Pick a side.
Parkbandit
10-10-2023, 08:45 PM
Palestinians are savage human beings. They elected Hamas in 2006 and most of the Palestinians today still support them. They are the bad guys in this war, just like Russia is with Ukraine. I’m sure there are good decent Russians and Palestinians alike, but unfortunately this is war. Pick a side.
"This is a really complex situation! On one hand you have Hamas beheading innocent people.. on the other hand it's only Jews.. so who cares?" -time4fun "mental" gymnastics
~Rocktar~
10-10-2023, 09:03 PM
Hamas is not a part of the Palestinian National Authority. (i.e. the State of Palestine) It's a terrorist group that used a mixture of politics and weapons to take over Gaza in the 90s (HUGE irony here) Gaza is a completely separate territory, and Hamas runs everything there. They co-exist peacefully with the PNA, but they are officially enemies.
As for Palestinian support of Hamas, it's not what you think it is. Even in Gaza, support is less than 60%. And they have something like 40% support in the West Bank.
And Israel very much created the circumstances that have allowed Hamas to thrive. Israel has been literally starving the Palestinian people for decades. Part of their occupation strategy has been to keep food, medicine, and fuel levels far below what the population needs- that is when they're allowing those things into Palestine at all. You want to know why people started supporting Hamas? Because Hamas was feeding them and giving them medicine and clothing. People literally depended on them for survival because of Israel. I don't think you quite get how horrific life has been under Israeli occupation.
The people in Gaza depend entirely on Hamas for everything, and people believe (very reasonably) that Hamas is the only thing keeping Israel from taking over Gaza and kicking all of the Palestinians out. (not that there's any place for them to go, by the way) Of course, Hamas also uses civilians as human shields. They're horrible. And that should tell you a lot about how dire things are for the people in Gaza.
I'll also remind you that Israel has absolutely no legal right to occupy any part of Palestine. No more than Russia had any right to annex and invade Ukraine. They're actually VERY similar situations in terms of the motivations for the occupying countries. Except Russia isn't forcing Ukraine to live in poverty for decades. And they're not killing Ukrainians in occupied areas to make room for more Russian settlements (at least not that I'm aware of).
The Palestinians aren't "savages"- they are real human beings in a horrific situation that they didn't ask for. Hamas is fucking evil, no doubt. They're an anti-semetic cancer whose main goal is to eradicate Israel.
But that doesn't make Israel the "good guy" here. Sometimes there are no good guys. Just bad guys and even worse ones.
Yay, more rationalizing moral equivalence from the disgusting Leftist shill. Did you ever get off your ass and even try to get your illegal alien family member registered or are you still harboring a criminal?
GTFO you disgusting piece of shit.
Suppressed Poet
10-10-2023, 09:10 PM
Honest and hopefully sincere polite question Time4Fun:
How do you feel about women living under the rule of Islamic Shariah Law?
Neveragain
10-10-2023, 09:18 PM
Hamas is not a part of the Palestinian National Authority. (i.e. the State of Palestine) It's a terrorist group that used a mixture of politics and weapons to take over Gaza in the 90s (HUGE irony here) Gaza is a completely separate territory, and Hamas runs everything there. They co-exist peacefully with the PNA, but they are officially enemies.
As for Palestinian support of Hamas, it's not what you think it is. Even in Gaza, support is less than 60%. And they have something like 40% support in the West Bank.
And Israel very much created the circumstances that have allowed Hamas to thrive. Israel has been literally starving the Palestinian people for decades. Part of their occupation strategy has been to keep food, medicine, and fuel levels far below what the population needs- that is when they're allowing those things into Palestine at all. You want to know why people started supporting Hamas? Because Hamas was feeding them and giving them medicine and clothing. People literally depended on them for survival because of Israel. I don't think you quite get how horrific life has been under Israeli occupation.
The people in Gaza depend entirely on Hamas for everything, and people believe (very reasonably) that Hamas is the only thing keeping Israel from taking over Gaza and kicking all of the Palestinians out. (not that there's any place for them to go, by the way) Of course, Hamas also uses civilians as human shields. They're horrible. And that should tell you a lot about how dire things are for the people in Gaza.
I'll also remind you that Israel has absolutely no legal right to occupy any part of Palestine. No more than Russia had any right to annex and invade Ukraine. They're actually VERY similar situations in terms of the motivations for the occupying countries. Except Russia isn't forcing Ukraine to live in poverty for decades. And they're not killing Ukrainians in occupied areas to make room for more Russian settlements (at least not that I'm aware of).
The Palestinians aren't "savages"- they are real human beings in a horrific situation that they didn't ask for. Hamas is fucking evil, no doubt. They're an anti-semetic cancer whose main goal is to eradicate Israel.
But that doesn't make Israel the "good guy" here. Sometimes there are no good guys. Just bad guys and even worse ones.
Spends years calling everyone NAZI's, confirms she is the actual NAZI.
How many customers did SIMU lose to you and your fellow NAZI's little game?
Tgo01
10-10-2023, 09:43 PM
Here is a state rep from Denver who refuses to condemn the murder of children, women, and the elderly:
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1711799629547782487
Seran and time4fun: It's just a couple of fringe people taking this position! No one is defending Hamas!
You both are fucking Nazis.
Suppressed Poet
10-10-2023, 10:28 PM
On a lighter note, I’m trying to learn & adopt the strategies that seem to work well for the Democrat Party for my own personal gain. Never let a good crisis go to waste. I told my wife to show our support for the Israelis we really should buy a Galil Ace in 7.62x39, even though it would put us past our allotted annual budget for firearm purchases. She hates what’s happening there (as do I). I don’t think it’s going to work but it’s got her thinking about it.
Methais
10-10-2023, 10:33 PM
Hamas is not a part of the Palestinian National Authority. (i.e. the State of Palestine) It's a terrorist group that used a mixture of politics and weapons to take over Gaza in the 90s (HUGE irony here) Gaza is a completely separate territory, and Hamas runs everything there. They co-exist peacefully with the PNA, but they are officially enemies.
As for Palestinian support of Hamas, it's not what you think it is. Even in Gaza, support is less than 60%. And they have something like 40% support in the West Bank.
And Israel very much created the circumstances that have allowed Hamas to thrive. Israel has been literally starving the Palestinian people for decades. Part of their occupation strategy has been to keep food, medicine, and fuel levels far below what the population needs- that is when they're allowing those things into Palestine at all. You want to know why people started supporting Hamas? Because Hamas was feeding them and giving them medicine and clothing. People literally depended on them for survival because of Israel. I don't think you quite get how horrific life has been under Israeli occupation.
The people in Gaza depend entirely on Hamas for everything, and people believe (very reasonably) that Hamas is the only thing keeping Israel from taking over Gaza and kicking all of the Palestinians out. (not that there's any place for them to go, by the way) Of course, Hamas also uses civilians as human shields. They're horrible. And that should tell you a lot about how dire things are for the people in Gaza.
I'll also remind you that Israel has absolutely no legal right to occupy any part of Palestine. No more than Russia had any right to annex and invade Ukraine. They're actually VERY similar situations in terms of the motivations for the occupying countries. Except Russia isn't forcing Ukraine to live in poverty for decades. And they're not killing Ukrainians in occupied areas to make room for more Russian settlements (at least not that I'm aware of).
The Palestinians aren't "savages"- they are real human beings in a horrific situation that they didn't ask for. Hamas is fucking evil, no doubt. They're an anti-semetic cancer whose main goal is to eradicate Israel.
But that doesn't make Israel the "good guy" here. Sometimes there are no good guys. Just bad guys and even worse ones.
Fun fact: Palestine is an anagram for PENISLATE.
And EATPENISL
Methais
10-10-2023, 10:45 PM
time4fun is going through her usual mental gymnastics to pretend the people who are literally defending the actions of Hamas are simply concerned about the other citizens of Gaza. As if the vast majority of people in Gaza don't support Hamas to begin with.
But what else is new? time4fun has been open about her being a Nazi for many years now.
Hey pal, it's ONLY 60% that support them. Get a grip!
That's ONLY 9% higher than the minimum just to have a majority!
https://media.tenor.com/3UoMrUTwp8YAAAAM/gosh.gif
Palestinians are savage human beings. They elected Hamas in 2006 and most of the Palestinians today still support them. They are the bad guys in this war, just like Russia is with Ukraine. I’m sure there are good decent Russians and Palestinians alike, but unfortunately this is war. Pick a side.
https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video_thumb/EjIeQpEWsAIiAl0.jpg
Even in Gaza, support is less than 60%. And they have something like 40% support in the West Bank.
Why are you downplaying these numbers? Especially the 60%, which is obviously a majority. Are you this stupid or do you just suck this badly as a person?
That's almost 20% higher than Biden's approval rating btw.
Dick.
Seran
10-11-2023, 12:01 AM
https://i.imgur.com/4e00YXj.jpg
I will start off by saying that the slaughter and kidnapping of innocents in unequivocally wrong whoever does it and should be punished as such(US included). But try to keep a high level view of the events taking place. Suddenly nobody cares about Ukraine or the house speaker. 75% of US Congress is dual citizens of Israel. Somehow two of the best intelligence agencies didn’t catch this attack? Or did it give them casus belli to remove the Palestinians?
I get that people change, after all look at some of the horrible things our president has said in the past and clearly he’s better now, but something here doesn’t pass the smell test.
There's absolutely nothing supporting this crap and to spread such stupid, unfounded conspiracies is the worst sort of passive antisemitism.
Neveragain
10-11-2023, 12:03 AM
Hey pal, it's ONLY 60% that support them. Get a grip!
That's ONLY 9% higher than the minimum just to have a majority!
https://media.tenor.com/3UoMrUTwp8YAAAAM/gosh.gif
https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video_thumb/EjIeQpEWsAIiAl0.jpg
Why are you downplaying these numbers? Especially the 60%, which is obviously a majority. Are you this stupid or do you just suck this badly as a person?
That's almost 20% higher than Biden's approval rating btw.
Dick.
I would consider coming back to Gemstone, happily telling my stories, writing lore and just being the drunken pirate...if SIMU banned Time4killingJews for life.
Guister
10-11-2023, 02:16 AM
For those of you shitbags supporting or defending Hamas, this is what you support. This boy, like 5 or so was kidnapped and is being held captive among Palestinian children that think it's fun to beat him. You should be ashamed of yourselves and if you aren't then I hope you reap what you have sown.
https://palwatch.org/page/34626
https://youtu.be/ZVLLhL09-EM?si=rloAf8Dv53kx4gqg
Cool. Let's give that kid a wedgie.
Guister
10-11-2023, 02:18 AM
Not Jewish you racist piece of shit. Go fuck yourself.
Then what are you? Nignog or wamdangler?
Solkern
10-11-2023, 04:08 AM
Israel Defense Forces Major General Itai Veruv has stated that after Israeli soldiers cleared Kibbutz Kfar Aza, they discovered that Israeli civilians had been massacred, some being burned alive.
Israeli correspondents on the ground also described the scene, saying that at least 40 babies were found killed, with some of them having been beheaded.
Families were also found having been gunned down together in their houses, some in their beds.
Just what the fuck.
Tgo01
10-11-2023, 04:11 AM
Israel Defense Forces Major General Itai Veruv has stated that after Israeli soldiers cleared Kibbutz Kfar Aza, they discovered that Israeli civilians had been massacred, some being burned alive.
Israeli correspondents on the ground also described the scene, saying that at least 40 babies were found killed, with some of them having been beheaded.
Families were also found having been gunned down together in their houses, some in their beds.
Just what the fuck.
"This is a really complex situation, and simplistic stances aren't helpful." - time4fun
Anebriated
10-11-2023, 05:16 AM
BREAKING: Here is every US politician in Congress who currently holds stock positions that directly benefit from war in the Middle East:
Alan Lowenthal
Andrew Garbarino
Bill Hagerty
Blake Moore
Bob Gibbs
Carol Miller
Christopher Jacobs
Daniel Goldman
David McKinley
Dean Phillips
Debbie Schultz
Deborah Ross
Diana Harshbarger
Donald McEachin
Dwight Evans
Earl Blumenauer
Fred Upton
Garret Graves
Jerry Moran
Jerry Moran
John Curtis
John Yarmuth
Josh Gottheimer
Katherine Clark
Kathy Manning
Kevin Hern
Kurt Schrader
Lois Frankel
Maria Salazar
Marjorie Greene
Mark Green
Michael Guest
Michael McCaul
Mike Kelly
Mike Simpson
Mo Brooks
Patrick Fallon
Rick Allen
Ro Khanna
Robert Wittman
Roger Marshall
Scott Franklin
Shelley Capito
Steve Cohen
Susie Lee
Thomas Carper
Thomas Suozzi
Tommy Tuberville
Trey Hollingsworth
Virginia Foxx
William Keating
Zoe Lofgren
https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1711819644934520902?s=46&t=f08Y1VlY9wLZVRL-GyffDg
Anebriated
10-11-2023, 05:30 AM
"This is a really complex situation, and simplistic stances aren't helpful." - time4fun
If this happened it’s a truly reprehensible act and shows how uncivilized this is becoming. I would just exercise caution on what you are reading. Make sure the information is valid.
https://i.imgur.com/VuxZ85p.jpg
Also saw the picture of the burned bodies and it’s likely they were pulled from wreckage and placed in a truck, not burned as claimed. There is no soot on the railings around the bodies indicating that they were placed there after the fact.
Solkern
10-11-2023, 06:06 AM
If this happened it’s a truly reprehensible act and shows how uncivilized this is becoming. I would just exercise caution on what you are reading. Make sure the information is valid.
https://i.imgur.com/VuxZ85p.jpg
Also saw the picture of the burned bodies and it’s likely they were pulled from wreckage and placed in a truck, not burned as claimed. There is no soot on the railings around the bodies indicating that they were placed there after the fact.
https://www.businessinsider.com/idf-says-hamas-decapitated-babies-in-israel-2023-10
A spokesperson for the Israel Defense Forces told Insider on Tuesday that its soldiers found the decapitated corpses of babies at Kfar Aza, a kibbutz near Gaza.
Anebriated
10-11-2023, 06:08 AM
https://www.businessinsider.com/idf-says-hamas-decapitated-babies-in-israel-2023-10
A spokesperson for the Israel Defense Forces told Insider on Tuesday that its soldiers found the decapitated corpses of babies at Kfar Aza, a kibbutz near Gaza.
The spokesperson, Major Nir Dinar, did not say how many babies' bodies had been found, nor how many had been beheaded.
Insider was unable to independently confirm what was found, but Israeli media outlets have also reported the claim, attributing it to soldiers.
The spokesperson told Insider that although he hadn't seen images or videos himself, "soldiers on the ground who are there told me this."
Like I said, if it happened then its truly reprehensible. But this quote is like the 3rd paragraph of the article you linked.
Solkern
10-11-2023, 06:13 AM
Like I said, if it happened then its truly reprehensible. But this quote is like the 3rd paragraph of the article you linked.
I’m aware there isn’t any evidence except for the word of the soldiers on the ground. This isn’t something you lie about either.
Anebriated
10-11-2023, 06:15 AM
I’m aware there isn’t any evidence except for the word of the soldiers on the ground. This isn’t something you lie about either.
don't be so naive. war is hell and narratives shape action.
Trust but verify.
Parkbandit
10-11-2023, 07:52 AM
Here is a state rep from Denver who refuses to condemn the murder of children, women, and the elderly:
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1711799629547782487
Seran and time4fun: It's just a couple of fringe people taking this position! No one is defending Hamas!
You both are fucking Nazis.
Soykern will be around any minute to tell you it's both Democrats and Republicans... but he 100% doesn't agree! (It's more like 83%)
Parkbandit
10-11-2023, 07:55 AM
I would consider coming back to Gemstone, happily telling my stories, writing lore and just being the drunken pirate...if SIMU banned Time4killingJews for life.
Why would you let any one person stop you from doing something you enjoy?
Are you that sensitive?
Parkbandit
10-11-2023, 07:56 AM
"This is a really complex situation, and simplistic stances aren't helpful." - time4fun
https://media1.giphy.com/media/Q7ozWVYCR0nyW2rvPW/200w.gif
Parkbandit
10-11-2023, 07:58 AM
https://www.businessinsider.com/idf-says-hamas-decapitated-babies-in-israel-2023-10
A spokesperson for the Israel Defense Forces told Insider on Tuesday that its soldiers found the decapitated corpses of babies at Kfar Aza, a kibbutz near Gaza.
b u s i n e s s i n s i d e r....... j e s u s f u c k i n g c h r i s t.
Parkbandit
10-11-2023, 08:00 AM
I’m aware there isn’t any evidence except for the word of the soldiers on the ground. This isn’t something you lie about either.
It's not? Beheading jewish babies would enrage just about anyone except maybe Rashida Tlaib and time4fun.
Realk
10-11-2023, 08:22 AM
i don't know what source you need but abc said the same thing tonight on the world news. I don't understand why they cant just leave each other alone ffs.
Anebriated
10-11-2023, 08:25 AM
The news of it is on many outlets but it all stems back to one reporter who allegedly heard it from soldiers. Nobody has been able to confirm and Israel is telling other countries they can’t confirm it. If they had ANYTHING they would be on a soapbox drumming up support for the attacks based on that information. Nobody would question retaliation for the babies.
Solkern
10-11-2023, 08:25 AM
i don't know what source you need but abc said the same thing tonight on the world news. I don't understand why they cant just leave each other alone ffs.
It’s literally on every news source.
Parkbandit
10-11-2023, 08:44 AM
It’s literally on every news source.
So was "Trump colluded with Russia!" until we found out that was just an excuse Clinton cooked up for losing.
I'm watching Fox News today and now it's morphed into "Hamas began to butcher their children and beheading them right in front of their parents, then they killed the parents!"
How would they know this and be able to report it?
I don't doubt that Hamas would do this or even that they did do this.. but make no mistake: News organizations can and will make up stories to sell clicks/advertising.
It's a business.
Seran
10-11-2023, 08:46 AM
BREAKING: Here is every US politician in Congress who currently holds stock positions that directly benefit from war in the Middle East:
Alan Lowenthal
Andrew Garbarino
Bill Hagerty
Blake Moore
Bob Gibbs
Carol Miller
Christopher Jacobs
Daniel Goldman
David McKinley
Dean Phillips
Debbie Schultz
Deborah Ross
Diana Harshbarger
Donald McEachin
Dwight Evans
Earl Blumenauer
Fred Upton
Garret Graves
Jerry Moran
Jerry Moran
John Curtis
John Yarmuth
Josh Gottheimer
Katherine Clark
Kathy Manning
Kevin Hern
Kurt Schrader
Lois Frankel
Maria Salazar
Marjorie Greene
Mark Green
Michael Guest
Michael McCaul
Mike Kelly
Mike Simpson
Mo Brooks
Patrick Fallon
Rick Allen
Ro Khanna
Robert Wittman
Roger Marshall
Scott Franklin
Shelley Capito
Steve Cohen
Susie Lee
Thomas Carper
Thomas Suozzi
Tommy Tuberville
Trey Hollingsworth
Virginia Foxx
William Keating
Zoe Lofgren
https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1711819644934520902?s=46&t=f08Y1VlY9wLZVRL-GyffDg
Posting more fake information from Twitter Jew-hater? You're disgusting.
Realk
10-11-2023, 08:46 AM
true or not true. Biden should put his foot down and settle the rompus
Anebriated
10-11-2023, 08:47 AM
Me: posts un-biased list of all congress members who have made stock trades with defense companies
Seran: Jew hater!
You’re a muppet and this is why nobody takes you seriously.
Methais
10-11-2023, 08:52 AM
Israel Defense Forces Major General Itai Veruv has stated that after Israeli soldiers cleared Kibbutz Kfar Aza, they discovered that Israeli civilians had been massacred, some being burned alive.
Israeli correspondents on the ground also described the scene, saying that at least 40 babies were found killed, with some of them having been beheaded.
Families were also found having been gunned down together in their houses, some in their beds.
Just what the fuck.
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?136827-Israel-at-War&p=2295595#post2295595
Solkern
10-11-2023, 08:55 AM
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?136827-Israel-at-War&p=2295595#post2295595
I’m shocked everyone glossed over your post.
Anebriated
10-11-2023, 08:57 AM
I’m shocked everyone glossed over your post.
I saw it but I try to follow a 24 hour rule to see verification before buying in.
Methais
10-11-2023, 09:29 AM
Posting more fake information from Twitter Jew-hater? You're disgusting.
https://i.imgur.com/Gnlc5f7.jpg
Methais
10-11-2023, 09:30 AM
I’m shocked everyone glossed over your post.
People can't handle my up to the minute breaking news reporting. It's that breaking.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DD1HOnrXgAApcYv.jpg
Guister
10-11-2023, 09:32 AM
Reprehensible.
Guister
10-11-2023, 09:40 AM
You know, as bad as this conflict may seem and probably will be (yes, very terrible - the alleged report of beheading babies is not good, oh and it doesn't matter if they are jewish), this conflict pales in comparison to the war that will be between the humans and the machines.
Look at ChatGPT. The scientists that are responsible for creating AI are already saying that they could, potentially, down the road regret their decision to develop that technology.
It is the same as Oppenheimer who developed and helped to create (oversee) the management of the first A-bomb, and then later campaigned against the creation of a hydrogen bomb.
Anyway, AI, is the biggest threat to humanity, in my opinion, if we are considering long-term situations, as in 100 years from now. There is a law that says technological power doubles every 7 years, which is interesting, and a lot of this technological development in AI is going on behind the scenes, as expected (view Terminator 2), and we are not really aware of it. But seriously, test out ChatGPT or bing.com/new and you will immediately, or within a few minutes, fail the turing test and realize that robots and computers and also AI are much, much smarter than we are. I was sceptical at first.
Anyway, yeah, very sad affair in Israel. But machines are the true rulers, or will be within the next 100 years (is what I predict).
Scientists have already stated that they recommend, in the future, a ban on robots for military application. Meaning, no robots in war. It would be unfair and they would annihilate us. Food for thought.
Realk
10-11-2023, 09:48 AM
Until the Roomba doesn't knock the wall every fifth time or so I run it. I'll have my doubts about it taking over the world but I don't see something like chatgpt building jets and bombs.
I just want to scream MACHINES like I'm in the matrix.
Solkern
10-11-2023, 09:53 AM
People can't handle my up to the minute breaking news reporting. It's that breaking.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DD1HOnrXgAApcYv.jpg
I firmly believe you are as the Russian like to call people like you. Американский ниндзя-шпион
Seran
10-11-2023, 10:26 AM
Me: posts un-biased list of all congress members who have made stock trades with defense companies
Seran: Jew hater!
You’re a muppet and this is why nobody takes you seriously.
You're a antisemite because of the lies you tell about Congress being composed of people with dual Israeli citizenship and the dog whistle implications behind it. You're a dumb ultraconservative conspiracy theorist for posting nonsensical bullshit without any validating. The cup of your shit runneth over.
Parkbandit
10-11-2023, 10:34 AM
You're a antisemite because of the lies you tell about Congress being composed of people with dual Israeli citizenship and the dog whistle implications behind it.
Is that a lie? I haven't heard one way or the other.
You're a dumb ultraconservative conspiracy theorist for posting nonsensical bullshit without any validating. The cup of your shit runneth over.
Bro.... just pretend you have a little bit of self awareness.
Anebriated
10-11-2023, 10:54 AM
https://i.imgur.com/ogI2Wpv.jpg
This is the reporter from the original story.
That said dead babies are still bad.
Neveragain
10-11-2023, 11:21 AM
You know, as bad as this conflict may seem and probably will be (yes, very terrible - the alleged report of beheading babies is not good, oh and it doesn't matter if they are jewish), this conflict pales in comparison to the war that will be between the humans and the machines.
Look at ChatGPT. The scientists that are responsible for creating AI are already saying that they could, potentially, down the road regret their decision to develop that technology.
It is the same as Oppenheimer who developed and helped to create (oversee) the management of the first A-bomb, and then later campaigned against the creation of a hydrogen bomb.
Anyway, AI, is the biggest threat to humanity, in my opinion, if we are considering long-term situations, as in 100 years from now. There is a law that says technological power doubles every 7 years, which is interesting, and a lot of this technological development in AI is going on behind the scenes, as expected (view Terminator 2), and we are not really aware of it. But seriously, test out ChatGPT or bing.com/new and you will immediately, or within a few minutes, fail the turing test and realize that robots and computers and also AI are much, much smarter than we are. I was sceptical at first.
Anyway, yeah, very sad affair in Israel. But machines are the true rulers, or will be within the next 100 years (is what I predict).
Scientists have already stated that they recommend, in the future, a ban on robots for military application. Meaning, no robots in war. It would be unfair and they would annihilate us. Food for thought.
Scientists have yet to create AI.
A longer stream of subroutines is not AI. It becomes AI when it decides that the 0 is a 1 even though the subroutine said it was 0.
Anebriated
10-11-2023, 11:22 AM
https://i.imgur.com/oCDpRTQ.jpg
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6992379
Keep your head on a swivel out there. We’ve all seen the gatherings happening in the US.
Friday the 13th…
Solkern
10-11-2023, 11:25 AM
https://i.imgur.com/oCDpRTQ.jpg
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6992379
Keep your head on a swivel out there. We’ve all seen the gatherings happening in the US.
Friday the 13th…
I’m in Thailand right now, zero fucks about anything given here.
Methais
10-11-2023, 11:30 AM
You know, as bad as this conflict may seem and probably will be (yes, very terrible - the alleged report of beheading babies is not good, oh and it doesn't matter if they are jewish), this conflict pales in comparison to the war that will be between the humans and the machines.
Look at ChatGPT. The scientists that are responsible for creating AI are already saying that they could, potentially, down the road regret their decision to develop that technology.
It is the same as Oppenheimer who developed and helped to create (oversee) the management of the first A-bomb, and then later campaigned against the creation of a hydrogen bomb.
Anyway, AI, is the biggest threat to humanity, in my opinion, if we are considering long-term situations, as in 100 years from now. There is a law that says technological power doubles every 7 years, which is interesting, and a lot of this technological development in AI is going on behind the scenes, as expected (view Terminator 2), and we are not really aware of it. But seriously, test out ChatGPT or bing.com/new and you will immediately, or within a few minutes, fail the turing test and realize that robots and computers and also AI are much, much smarter than we are. I was sceptical at first.
Anyway, yeah, very sad affair in Israel. But machines are the true rulers, or will be within the next 100 years (is what I predict).
Scientists have already stated that they recommend, in the future, a ban on robots for military application. Meaning, no robots in war. It would be unfair and they would annihilate us. Food for thought.
Pretty bold of you to assume that humanity won't wipe itself out before Skynet takes over.
Methais
10-11-2023, 11:31 AM
I firmly believe you are as the Russian like to call people like you. Американский ниндзя-шпион
https://i.imgur.com/O193dqZ.png
Neveragain
10-11-2023, 11:32 AM
I’m in Thailand right now, zero fucks about anything given here.
I'll never forget the Thai tranny that was in our raid guild, that I sent to the emergency room after telling them that Thailand only exists because of US protection.
Methais
10-11-2023, 11:33 AM
In other news...
https://i.imgur.com/OqVJmT9.png
Methais
10-11-2023, 11:38 AM
You're a antisemite because of the lies you tell about Congress being composed of people with dual Israeli citizenship and the dog whistle implications behind it. You're a dumb ultraconservative conspiracy theorist for posting nonsensical bullshit without any validating. The cup of your shit runneth over.
The best part is how you call other people cult members (yes, not in this particular post, but you do it all the time in general, since you'll be too stupid to not have to have this part explained to you) while having zero self awareness that literally everything you do and say (which just happens to be factually incorrect 99.9999999999% of the time) is exactly how cult members behave in general.
It's because you're an extremely dumb piece of shit who should be aborted.
Solkern
10-11-2023, 11:43 AM
I'll never forget the Thai tranny that was in our raid guild, that I sent to the emergency room after telling them that Thailand only exists because of US protection.
LADYBOY
Solkern
10-11-2023, 11:43 AM
https://i.imgur.com/O193dqZ.png
Such a classic.
Anebriated
10-11-2023, 11:45 AM
The good news is if the left keeps it up we may be allowed to abort him
Guister
10-11-2023, 11:52 AM
Scientists have yet to create AI.
A longer stream of subroutines is not AI. It becomes AI when it decides that the 0 is a 1 even though the subroutine said it was 0.
I've heard this argument before.
The fact of the matter is, saying that Artificial Intelligence is when a computer decides that a 0 should be 1 , or whatever, is incorrect.
You are missing the term "Artificial".
No one is saying that a computer is intelligent. What we are saying is that they have Artificial Intelligence.
Meaning, subroutines with strings numbering in the trillions upon trillions of digits.
This is artificial intelligence. It is what a computer does. They are robots.
If a human fails the turing (cannot tell it is not a human they are talking to, if not told originally that it was a computer) then computers have officially outsmarted us.
And quite honestly, this happened a long time ago (like over 10 years ago).
Yes, computers are smarter than us. And yes, they (and robots) pose a threat to humanity, and yes, they would be the ultimate weapons on the battlefield.
There is unequivocally no denying this true fact.
Guister
10-11-2023, 11:55 AM
By the way, I'm hoping that some of you are good at math.
I have developed the theoretical framework for a vacuum bomb, or a singularity bomb.
I'm not sure if this is new ground that I'm treading, it may not be but consider the following:
If you heat up a laser enough within a crystal and propel it forward, it can bounce off the sides and remain within the crystal indefinitely until there is an approaching infinite amount of energy within that crystal.
A singularity is a sphere, so make that crystal a sphere (smooth and round out the asymptotes - in math speak - in three or four dimensions).
Anyway, that laser beam within the sphere or crystal could potentially create enough energy (approaching infinite energy) to create a black hole, a void, or what have you. I'm not sure what would happen to the sphere, would it shrink down to infinite density and explode and destroy the galaxy?
I don't know. But if this could be controlled (like tactical nukes) you could have a pretty solid bomb on your hands.
Given the calculus of it, we are talking about 3-dimensional shifting asymptotes and curved lines approaching those asymptotes until you get a spiralling-inward series of circles that end at a point (that I do not know of yet).
Suppressed Poet
10-11-2023, 12:00 PM
All I know is I’m preparing my 11 month year old twin boys to be good soldiers of the apocalypse. I tell them daily they are the chosen ones destined to save humanity. When they become of military age they will lead the world on how:
https://y.yarn.co/3808afaf-fee4-45b7-9d50-81110482dc98_text.gif
~Rocktar~
10-11-2023, 12:00 PM
By the way, I'm hoping that some of you are good at math.
I have developed the theoretical framework for a vacuum bomb, or a singularity bomb.
I'm not sure if this is new ground that I'm treading, it may not be but consider the following:
If you heat up a laser enough within a crystal and propel it forward, it can bounce off the sides and remain within the crystal indefinitely until there is an approaching infinite amount of energy within that crystal.
A singularity is a sphere, so make that crystal a sphere (smooth and round out the asymptotes - in math speak - in three or four dimensions).
Anyway, that laser beam within the sphere or crystal could potentially create enough energy (approaching infinite energy) to create a black hole, a void, or what have you. I'm not sure what would happen to the sphere, would it shrink down to infinite density and explode and destroy the galaxy?
I don't know. But if this could be controlled (like tactical nukes) you could have a pretty solid bomb on your hands.
Given the calculus of it, we are talking about 3-dimensional shifting asymptotes and curved lines approaching those asymptotes until you get a spiralling-inward series of circles that end at a point (that I do not know of yet).
The theory is ok, the reality is that all, absolutely all reflective materials have a maximum reflective coefficient beyond which they can no longer reflect things and the light burns through, also, all light transmissible materials have a non-zero transmission coefficient so basically, the mirror surface gives out or you lose energy in the material until it melts.
Guister
10-11-2023, 12:04 PM
I will think on this and I'd like to continue the discussion.
There would have to be some sort of non-evasive and non-transmutable light-containing material.
Methais
10-11-2023, 12:58 PM
By the way, I'm hoping that some of you are good at math.
I have developed the theoretical framework for a vacuum bomb, or a singularity bomb.
I'm not sure if this is new ground that I'm treading, it may not be but consider the following:
If you heat up a laser enough within a crystal and propel it forward, it can bounce off the sides and remain within the crystal indefinitely until there is an approaching infinite amount of energy within that crystal.
A singularity is a sphere, so make that crystal a sphere (smooth and round out the asymptotes - in math speak - in three or four dimensions).
Anyway, that laser beam within the sphere or crystal could potentially create enough energy (approaching infinite energy) to create a black hole, a void, or what have you. I'm not sure what would happen to the sphere, would it shrink down to infinite density and explode and destroy the galaxy?
I don't know. But if this could be controlled (like tactical nukes) you could have a pretty solid bomb on your hands.
Given the calculus of it, we are talking about 3-dimensional shifting asymptotes and curved lines approaching those asymptotes until you get a spiralling-inward series of circles that end at a point (that I do not know of yet).
Just did the math, and it won't work.
Back to the drawing board you go.
Tgo01
10-11-2023, 01:02 PM
Nobody would question retaliation for the babies.
There are people who literally don't care that they raped young women next to the dead bodies of their friends or that they paraded around dead women in the streets and spit on them, something tells me these people wouldn't suddenly care just because these monsters chopped the heads off of babies.
Also from what I understand the only "source" saying Israel can't confirm these reports is a Turkish state run news organization, and Turkey isn't really on Israel's side in this and a high up figure in their government just recently said the prime minister of Israel is going to die.
Methais
10-11-2023, 01:15 PM
There are people who literally don't care that they raped young women next to the dead bodies of their friends or that they paraded around dead women in the streets and spit on them, something tells me these people wouldn't suddenly care just because these monsters chopped the heads off of babies.
Also from what I understand the only "source" saying Israel can't confirm these reports is a Turkish state run news organization, and Turkey isn't really on Israel's side in this and a high up figure in their government just recently said the prime minister of Israel is going to die.
Hey buddy...
This is a really complex situation, and simplistic stances aren't helpful.
Suppressed Poet
10-11-2023, 01:21 PM
I saw all I need to see when they pulled a young woman out of a hatchback with her hands bound and bloodstains on the backside of her sweatpants from being raped. Those sick savage sons of bitches need to die.
Tgo01
10-11-2023, 01:21 PM
Hey buddy...
That quote of hers just might be the most tone deaf one in PC history.
I don't think even Seran has the balls to try and justify what Hamas did, he's just trying to pass the blame to Trump and Republicans to protect Biden.
Methais
10-11-2023, 01:24 PM
I saw all I need to see when they pulled a young woman out of a hatchback with her hands bound and bloodstains on the backside of her sweatpants from being raped. Those sick savage sons of bitches need to die.
The pro-Palestine self proclaimed "feminists" are a-ok with this.
Right, time4reallycomplexsituations?
Tgo01
10-11-2023, 01:34 PM
Surprise!
Rashida Tlaib had no comment when asked about the atrocities Hamas committed in Israel.
If you voted for this bitch then you too are a Nazi. If you keep pretending that these people simply want the best for the citizens of Gaza and Israel (time4fun) then you too are a Nazi bitch.
~Rocktar~
10-11-2023, 01:42 PM
I saw all I need to see when they pulled a young woman out of a hatchback with her hands bound and bloodstains on the backside of her sweatpants from being raped. Those sick savage sons of bitches need to die.
This is correct.
Tgo01
10-11-2023, 01:49 PM
Gaza says their only power plant has already run out of fuel so the entire strip will be without power soon.
Sucks to be them. Maybe the "only" 60% who support Hamas should start to rethink that.
Neveragain
10-11-2023, 01:49 PM
By the way, I'm hoping that some of you are good at math.
I have developed the theoretical framework for a vacuum bomb, or a singularity bomb.
I'm not sure if this is new ground that I'm treading, it may not be but consider the following:
If you heat up a laser enough within a crystal and propel it forward, it can bounce off the sides and remain within the crystal indefinitely until there is an approaching infinite amount of energy within that crystal.
A singularity is a sphere, so make that crystal a sphere (smooth and round out the asymptotes - in math speak - in three or four dimensions).
Anyway, that laser beam within the sphere or crystal could potentially create enough energy (approaching infinite energy) to create a black hole, a void, or what have you. I'm not sure what would happen to the sphere, would it shrink down to infinite density and explode and destroy the galaxy?
I don't know. But if this could be controlled (like tactical nukes) you could have a pretty solid bomb on your hands.
Given the calculus of it, we are talking about 3-dimensional shifting asymptotes and curved lines approaching those asymptotes until you get a spiralling-inward series of circles that end at a point (that I do not know of yet).
What if I were to tell you that the color of an object is not the actual color of the object. What we see is the color the object is not.
Suppressed Poet
10-11-2023, 01:52 PM
I’m American as fuck, but my ancestry on both sides of my family is Northern Irish (Catholic). I can say with moral clarity the IRA during the Troubles were the bad guys even though I’m somewhat sympathetic of their struggle. When they started purposely targeting civilians, cause goes out the window in the sphere of what’s right & wrong. The people of Northern Ireland became implicated by those actions whether they actively participated in it or not.
That’s my rebuttal to Time4Fun’s comment about it being a complex situation & simplistic stances not helpful. It’s as simple as one side committed atrocious acts of barbarism that was on display for the world to see. Israel is practically & morally obligated to respond fiercely & ensure it won’t ever happen again.
~Rocktar~
10-11-2023, 04:53 PM
Then what are you? Nignog or wamdangler?
Not a racist sack of shit like you.
Tgo01
10-11-2023, 04:58 PM
https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2023/10/11/watch-free-palestine-rally-in-dearborn-michigan-cheers-hamas/
Elected officials and "community organizers" hold a pro-Hamas rally in Dearborn, Michigan.
They had chants of "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free", a chant meaning Hamas will wipe out Israel and all Israeli citizens in order to create a Palestine state.
time4lovingNazis: "It's complicated."
Seran: "What, just a random anonymous post on Facebook?"
Guister
10-11-2023, 05:36 PM
Why don't you go hop a pogo stick a bounce off into sugarland, you twinkle-toed fairy princess.
Guister
10-11-2023, 05:54 PM
The theory is ok, the reality is that all, absolutely all reflective materials have a maximum reflective coefficient beyond which they can no longer reflect things and the light burns through, also, all light transmissible materials have a non-zero transmission coefficient so basically, the mirror surface gives out or you lose energy in the material until it melts.
Okay, so how bout this:
A strong material like carbon coating a crystal that is approaching a sphere: then a layer of reflective surfaces, then a magnetic resonance outer shell. The magnetism keeps the light from escaping, and then once light is triggered between the magnet shell and the resonance surface, it passes into the crystal and gets trapped inside. Magnetic pull continues to warp the light, or, if this is impossible, the light gravitates towards wanting to escape the crystalized sphere. It can't, due to refractive shifting linear, jagged, physical asymptotes. Basically a light ray, beam, or photon partical is trapped inside and gradually builds up energy. Until... Boom.
~Rocktar~
10-11-2023, 06:11 PM
Okay, so how bout this:
A strong material like carbon coating a crystal that is approaching a sphere: then a layer of reflective surfaces, then a magnetic resonance outer shell. The magnetism keeps the light from escaping, and then once light is triggered between the magnet shell and the resonance surface, it passes into the crystal and gets trapped inside. Magnetic pull continues to warp the light, or, if this is impossible, the light gravitates towards wanting to escape the crystalized sphere. It can't, due to refractive shifting linear, jagged, physical asymptotes. Basically a light ray, beam, or photon partical is trapped inside and gradually builds up energy. Until... Boom.
No racist.
Spew more fantasy BS sprinkled by buzzwords.
Methais
10-11-2023, 08:35 PM
Why don't you go hop a pogo stick a bounce off into sugarland, you twinkle-toed fairy princess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ5NGMLRGPI
Anebriated
10-11-2023, 10:29 PM
My new favorite video of the Hamas Air Force
https://x.com/gunthereagleman/status/1712263171849781509?s=46&t=f08Y1VlY9wLZVRL-GyffDg
Tgo01
10-11-2023, 11:13 PM
This tweet is from a Yale professor:
https://twitter.com/thomaschattwill/status/1712163754169770151
"Settlers are not civilians. This is not hard."
Basically saying it's okay that Hamas murdered babies, children, women, and other civilians because they were really "settlers" and apparently "settlers" aren't "civilians."
time4lovingNazis and Seran sure have been quiet lately after they tried so hard to suggest this was just a couple of fringe people spouting shit like this and that no one was defending the actions of Hamas.
I guess even pieces of shit know when to keep quiet.
Tgo01
10-12-2023, 12:48 AM
https://nypost.com/2023/10/11/nicole-zedeck-stands-by-reporting-of-beheaded-israeli-infants/
The reporter who originally made the claim that Hamas beheaded babies is sticking by her words as others call her a liar.
She is saying she saw it first hand.
Netanyahu is also saying Hamas beheaded babies.
Seran
10-12-2023, 08:36 AM
Trump was praising Hezbollah for their intelligence in launching rockets at Israeli soldiers the other night. That settles Trump's antisemitism once and for all.
Neveragain
10-12-2023, 08:55 AM
Trump was praising Hezbollah for their intelligence in launching rockets at Israeli soldiers the other night. That settles Trump's antisemitism once and for all.
Third world terrorists just bypassed the most advanced defense system in human history, with basically no military budget in ratio to their enemy and murdered 100's.
Daddy Trump is the only adult in the room.
Neveragain
10-12-2023, 09:14 AM
Credit to the US military.
It's a modern marvel how an entire carrier group can make that kind of ground in such a short amount of time.
Neveragain
10-12-2023, 09:21 AM
"There's missiles in their god damn kitchen, that they are aiming at my home. What do you want me to do?"
Some Jewish dudes response to Palestinian sympathizer.
Methais
10-12-2023, 09:23 AM
Trump was praising Hezbollah for their intelligence in launching rockets at Israeli soldiers the other night. That settles Trump's antisemitism once and for all.
And here's why you didn't source it:
https://i.imgur.com/TESGx69.png (https://www.businessinsider.com/ron-desantis-slams-donald-trump-for-calling-hezbollah-very-smart-2023-10)
Seran: But Faux News!
Actually...
https://www.businessinsider.com/ron-desantis-slams-donald-trump-for-calling-hezbollah-very-smart-2023-10
You retarded fucking boob. :rofl:
It shouldn't matter anyway, because acknowledging that someone is "smart" doesn't mean you support their cause. Not that I'd expect you to understand something so simple.
Lots of people who do terrible things are smart. Because it's possible to be smart and evil at the same time.
Hitler was smart too. Does that mean I'm a Nazi now? Do you think Hitler was dumb?
If you can't wrap your head around any of that, let's go into fictional villains who were smart.
Superman knows that Lex Luthor is extremely smart. Does that mean Superman supports Lex's cause?
I don't expect any answers that make sense from you in any context, I'm just pointing out how incredibly stupid and full of shit you are. Which everyone here is reminded of every time you post.
Dumbass.
Here's an example of someone who isn't smart at all, but still an evil piece of shit. (http://forum.gsplayers.com/member.php?248-Seran)
Anebriated
10-12-2023, 09:30 AM
https://x.com/warclandestine/status/1712455542394749145?s=46&t=f08Y1VlY9wLZVRL-GyffD
It’s embarrassing to have a leader who can’t function.
Methais
10-12-2023, 09:32 AM
https://x.com/warclandestine/status/1712455542394749145?s=46&t=f08Y1VlY9wLZVRL-GyffD
It’s embarrassing to have a leader who can’t function.
I'm just waiting for him to refer to the whole thing as "The conflict in Kuwait" or something like it's 1991.
Extra points if he says Desert Strike/Storm.
Anebriated
10-12-2023, 09:34 AM
And now Qatar is threatening to stop oil shipments to the western countries if the bombing of Gaza doesn’t stop. What happens if the rest of OPEC joins?
Solkern
10-12-2023, 09:39 AM
https://i.imgur.com/YPHQv2T.jpg
Solkern
10-12-2023, 09:42 AM
And now Qatar is threatening to stop oil shipments to the western countries if the bombing of Gaza doesn’t stop. What happens if the rest of OPEC joins?
https://dohanews.co/gaza-experts-debunk-fake-news-on-qatar-gas-supply-threats/
Disinformation experts have exposed an account “masquerading” as a Qatari news source that has spread false reports on an alleged Qatari threat to cut its gas supplies to the world if Israel continues to bomb the besieged Gaza Strip.
You didn’t wait your 24 hours :D
Anyways, you should know that’s bullshit news, you think Qatar is going to cut off its only source of revenue? You think OPEC would ever do something that stupid? They want money, cutting of supplies to one of their biggest customers would be economic suicide.
Methais
10-12-2023, 09:47 AM
https://i.imgur.com/YPHQv2T.jpg
Ukraine cured covid, Israel cured Ukraine.
https://i.imgur.com/PjZoiaf.png
Anebriated
10-12-2023, 09:53 AM
https://dohanews.co/gaza-experts-debunk-fake-news-on-qatar-gas-supply-threats/
Disinformation experts have exposed an account “masquerading” as a Qatari news source that has spread false reports on an alleged Qatari threat to cut its gas supplies to the world if Israel continues to bomb the besieged Gaza Strip.
You didn’t wait your 24 hours :D
Anyways, you should know that’s bullshit news, you think Qatar is going to cut off its only source of revenue? You think OPEC would ever do something that stupid? They want money, cutting of supplies to one of their biggest customers would be economic suicide.
You're right, in this case I didnt wait the 24 hours. I've been waiting on this shoe to drop so I ran with it. Heres the thing though, Qatar is tied to Hamas, thats where their leadership resides. They can afford to sit back and wait out the west. They are one of the richest counties in the world. All they would have to do is stop selling oil for a few months and it would shut down the west.
for what its worth it wasnt US/NATO sources I was looking at
https://www.turan.az/ext/news/2023/10/free/economics_news/en/9717.htm
https://iranpress.com/content/235630/qatar-threatens-cut-gas-export-gaza-bombardment-continues
Solkern
10-12-2023, 10:04 AM
You're right, in this case I didnt wait the 24 hours. I've been waiting on this shoe to drop so I ran with it. Heres the thing though, Qatar is tied to Hamas, thats where their leadership resides. They can afford to sit back and wait out the west. They are one of the richest counties in the world. All they would have to do is stop selling oil for a few months and it would shut down the west.
for what its worth it wasnt US/NATO sources I was looking at
https://www.turan.az/ext/news/2023/10/free/economics_news/en/9717.htm
https://iranpress.com/content/235630/qatar-threatens-cut-gas-export-gaza-bombardment-continues
It wouldn’t really shut down the west, yes Qatar is wealthy, but they are wealthy because of oil. Imagine America shut down its economy for a “few months” it would wreck havoc on our economy. Next Qatar really can’t do shit unilaterally without OPECs approval, and OPEC wouldn’t do that. On top of that Qatar is one of the biggest allies to America and the west. We have an extremely strong and stable relationship with them.
The US has officially designated Qatar as a major non-NATO ally enhancing the partnership between Doha and Washington and giving the Gulf country special economic and military privileges in its relationship with the US. This marks Qatar's third Gulf ally, following Kuwait and Bahrain.
Anebriated
10-12-2023, 10:09 AM
And yet they harbor terrorists.
Solkern
10-12-2023, 10:12 AM
And yet they harbor terrorists.
I guess we got to make some sacrifices for a strategic and powerful partner in the Middle East.
Edited: Qatar has done quite a lot in an effort to combat terrorist residing in their country. Most have left by 2015.
Edited: Qatar has been accused of supporting Hamas, the Palestinian group designated as a terrorist organization by a number of countries. Qatar denies these allegations, stating that it does not support Hamas' political position, and that its policy is to help facilitate constructive engagement between Hamas and the Palestinian Authority
Suppressed Poet
10-12-2023, 10:14 AM
They should be worried about the US. It’s time we tell them to shut up, do what they’re told, or we’ll fuck them in their asses like we did to Iraq.
Seran
10-12-2023, 10:21 AM
They should be worried about the US. It’s time we tell them to shut up, do what they’re told, or we’ll fuck them in their asses like we did to Iraq.
I was watching a video recapping the Suez Canal crisis in 1956 when Britain and France invaded Egypt to secure this vital shipping connection. The Untied States and Russia both used their influence to end that occupation and return control to it's Arab leaders, which was only the beginning of our support of third world despots in the region over western interests. The Israel crisis is another, these same countries now pose a threat to an important ally and I think it's vital that Israel end that threat once and for all. In this I agree with you that the United States should be using it's influence to cow the miserable defiance of the region that spits in the face of the West while begging for it's money and support.
Parkbandit
10-12-2023, 11:10 AM
Trump was praising Hezbollah for their intelligence in launching rockets at Israeli soldiers the other night. That settles Trump's antisemitism once and for all.
You have to be one of the dumbest people on the planet to believe what you are spoon fed.
I'm guessing you read it on businessinsider.com again? You didn't link it.. so it's either that or maybe moveon.org?
You and Soykern get your retard stepping points from the same source.
Parkbandit
10-12-2023, 11:11 AM
And here's why you didn't source it:
https://i.imgur.com/TESGx69.png (https://www.businessinsider.com/ron-desantis-slams-donald-trump-for-calling-hezbollah-very-smart-2023-10)
Seran: But Faux News!
Actually...
https://www.businessinsider.com/ron-desantis-slams-donald-trump-for-calling-hezbollah-very-smart-2023-10
You retarded fucking boob. :rofl:
It shouldn't matter anyway, because acknowledging that someone is "smart" doesn't mean you support their cause. Not that I'd expect you to understand something so simple.
Lots of people who do terrible things are smart. Because it's possible to be smart and evil at the same time.
Hitler was smart too. Does that mean I'm a Nazi now? Do you think Hitler was dumb?
If you can't wrap your head around any of that, let's go into fictional villains who were smart.
Superman knows that Lex Luthor is extremely smart. Does that mean Superman supports Lex's cause?
I don't expect any answers that make sense from you in any context, I'm just pointing out how incredibly stupid and full of shit you are. Which everyone here is reminded of every time you post.
Dumbass.
Here's an example of someone who isn't smart at all, but still an evil piece of shit. (http://forum.gsplayers.com/member.php?248-Seran)
JFC... I fucking knew it.
Seran, you really are a fucking retard.
Parkbandit
10-12-2023, 11:12 AM
And now Qatar is threatening to stop oil shipments to the western countries if the bombing of Gaza doesn’t stop. What happens if the rest of OPEC joins?
Relax. We have our strategic oil reserves to take care of us for a very, very long time.
Parkbandit
10-12-2023, 11:14 AM
Imagine America shut down its economy for a “few months” it would wreck havoc on our economy.
Imagine? We don't have to.. we can just look at 2020 to see what it did.
Neveragain
10-12-2023, 11:38 AM
https://i.imgur.com/YPHQv2T.jpg
It will be interesting to see how this changes the face of the Ukraine conflict.
Opening pandoras box in Israel has world impact that can last for centuries. I could even see Russia distancing itself from Iran if Israel thing goes the wrong ways.
Neveragain
10-12-2023, 12:20 PM
You're right, in this case I didnt wait the 24 hours. I've been waiting on this shoe to drop so I ran with it. Heres the thing though, Qatar is tied to Hamas, thats where their leadership resides. They can afford to sit back and wait out the west. They are one of the richest counties in the world. All they would have to do is stop selling oil for a few months and it would shut down the west.
for what its worth it wasnt US/NATO sources I was looking at
https://www.turan.az/ext/news/2023/10/free/economics_news/en/9717.htm
https://iranpress.com/content/235630/qatar-threatens-cut-gas-export-gaza-bombardment-continues
Words are cheap when the Roman fleet shows up on the horizon.
Methais
10-12-2023, 02:08 PM
JFC... I fucking knew it.
Seran, you really are a fucking retard.
Even Business Insider appears to have gotten it right and added context that Seran completely ignored because he's a retarded welfare addict piece of shit, so Seran might have gotten it from an even more retarded source. Or he's even more retarded when it comes to reading comprehension than everyone previously thought. Or he's just lying. Probably all of the above.
https://i.imgur.com/ViFpwlw.png (https://twitter.com/DeSantisWarRoom/status/1712270300719817145)
https://x.com/DeSantisWarRoom/status/1712270300719817145?s=20
Same clip but in context:
https://i.imgur.com/k4KvLaP.png (https://x.com/joma_gc/status/1712287007643205923?s=20)
https://x.com/joma_gc/status/1712287007643205923?s=20
Anebriated
10-12-2023, 02:09 PM
https://i.imgur.com/13apRs8.jpg
~Rocktar~
10-12-2023, 02:12 PM
Death toll up to 1200 Israelis, 25 Americans dead, 20+ missing Americans, 25 American hostages. Yeah, I don't think Hamas is ever going to be a viable group to show their head again. Or at least they shouldn't be.
Methais
10-12-2023, 02:33 PM
https://i.imgur.com/8O8YEcm.png
Fixed.
Tgo01
10-12-2023, 02:39 PM
Fixed.
"Just don't you DARE refer to a trans-woman as a man!"
Seran
10-12-2023, 02:42 PM
JFC... I fucking knew it.
Seran, you really are a fucking retard.
Look how swiftly they tried spinning his antisemitic remark. Trump actually quoted himself as having said something. How the fuck do you claim someone took something out of context what someone has quoted themself?
https://youtu.be/f56Fqp1oBmk?si=qC0HlPO1yL1Dbwfi
Tgo01
10-12-2023, 02:46 PM
Man didn't take Seran long to jump from "It's just a couple of fringe people on the internet taking Hamas' side!" to just deflecting to Trump as much as possible.
Some facts for you here, Seran:
Hamas murdered hundreds of civilians in cold blood.
Mostly people in YOUR party support these Hamas murderers.
Not a single elected Republican official has come out in support of Hamas or blamed Israeli citizens for their own murders, only YOUR party has done this.
Stop muddying the waters with your dumb shit and take some responsibility for helping these shit stains get elected.
Parkbandit
10-12-2023, 02:49 PM
Look how swiftly they tried spinning his antisemitic remark. Trump actually quoted himself as having said something. How the fuck do you claim someone took something out of context what someone has quoted themself?
My favorite part of your retardation is your steadfast insistence that you aren't that retarded.. so you double down on the original retardation, making you look even more retarded.
You.Fucking.Retard.
PS- By the way, thanks to Bidenomics and Bidinflation, I heard you get a raise next year on your disabilities payments! GRATS!
Suppressed Poet
10-12-2023, 02:51 PM
They froze the $6 billion again after bipartisan pressure of calling the Biden administration a bunch of idiots:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna120135
Neveragain
10-12-2023, 02:58 PM
Man didn't take Seran long to jump from "It's just a couple of fringe people on the internet taking Hamas' side!" to just deflecting to Trump as much as possible.
Some facts for you here, Seran:
Hamas murdered hundreds of civilians in cold blood.
Mostly people in YOUR party support these Hamas murderers.
Not a single elected Republican official has come out in support of Hamas or blamed Israeli citizens for their own murders, only YOUR party has done this.
Stop muddying the waters with your dumb shit and take some responsibility for helping these shit stains get elected.
"He said they were smart!" Is such a trailer park argument.
Of course this is known to be an American weakness, underestimating our enemies. Mostly because Americans are kind of stupid, a little bit.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
10-12-2023, 03:07 PM
They froze the $6 billion again after bipartisan pressure of calling the Biden administration a bunch of idiots:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna120135
Nice. Now lets send that 6b to Israel.
Methais
10-12-2023, 03:09 PM
Look at this slob :rofl:
https://i.imgur.com/7BQ4EyC.png (https://x.com/ClownWorld_/status/1712404281964564897?s=20)
https://x.com/ClownWorld_/status/1712404281964564897?s=20
Not that I necessarily disagree with his statement at face value, but at the same time, this is such an incredible display of a lack of self awareness by Fetterman that the first thing I thought of was Seran.
Methais
10-12-2023, 03:16 PM
Look how swiftly they tried spinning his antisemitic remark. Trump actually quoted himself as having said something. How the fuck do you claim someone took something out of context what someone has quoted themself?
https://youtu.be/f56Fqp1oBmk?si=qC0HlPO1yL1Dbwfi
Add "context" to the never ending list of things Seran is incapable of understanding.
But do tell us, Seran, you fucking retard, how does acknowledging that a person or group of people are "smart" = they support said people's cause?
And then tell us why you're always so monumentally stupid all day every day. You owe this entire community an explanation for how one person can become as retarded as you are, with no end in sight to its progression.
Superman: Lex Luthor is a super genius and should not be underestimated.
Seran: OMG SUPERMAN IS WORKING FOR LEX LUTHOR AND WANTS TO HELP HIM TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seran
10-12-2023, 03:17 PM
Man didn't take Seran long to jump from "It's just a couple of fringe people on the internet taking Hamas' side!" to just deflecting to Trump as much as possible.
Some facts for you here, Seran:
Hamas murdered hundreds of civilians in cold blood.
Mostly people in YOUR party support these Hamas murderers.
Not a single elected Republican official has come out in support of Hamas or blamed Israeli citizens for their own murders, only YOUR party has done this.
Stop muddying the waters with your dumb shit and take some responsibility for helping these shit stains get elected.
Ironically what you are actually deflecting is the fact that Trump is praising a terrorist organization for launching rockets at Israelis. Tell me, since you're so hip on protecting Israeli citizens, you honestly don't think it's inappropriate for a former world leader to praise others for trying to murder Israelis? Here's the video again since you obviously didn't watch it.
https://youtu.be/f56Fqp1oBmk
Tgo01
10-12-2023, 03:19 PM
Ironically what you are actually deflecting is the fact that Trump is praising a terrorist organization for launching rockets at Israelis. Tell me, since you're so hip on protecting Israeli citizens, you honestly don't think it's inappropriate for a former world leader to praise others for trying to murder Israelis? Here's the video again since you obviously didn't watch it.
https://youtu.be/f56Fqp1oBmk
"But Trump! But Trump! Never mind my party has been infiltrated by Hamas loving terrorists who celebrate babies being beheaded and children being set on fire! But Trump said something I don't like!"
Take your worthless opinion and shove it so far up your ass that you choke on it.
Neveragain
10-12-2023, 03:30 PM
Qatar and US agree to freeze on 6 billion slated for Iran.
::echo::
Anebriated
10-12-2023, 03:38 PM
That doesn’t matter, they hadn’t even used it yet and the US didn’t even have that money!!!!
Seran
10-12-2023, 03:39 PM
"But Trump! But Trump! Never mind my party has been infiltrated by Hamas loving terrorists who celebrate babies being beheaded and children being set on fire! But Trump said something I don't like!"
Take your worthless opinion and shove it so far up your ass that you choke on it.
It's funny, Trump argues he can't be prosecuted because he's too important as the self-styled Republican nominee for 2024, but when he does things like praise the murderous acts of terrorists you feel that is anything but important. The leader of the free world shouldn't be beholden to terrorist groups, Trump obviously disagrees as evidenced by his statement and association with North Korea.
Suppressed Poet
10-12-2023, 03:50 PM
It's funny, Trump argues he can't be prosecuted because he's too important as the self-styled Republican nominee for 2024, but when he does things like praise the murderous acts of terrorists you feel that is anything but important. The leader of the free world shouldn't be beholden to terrorist groups, Trump obviously disagrees as evidenced by his statement and association with North Korea.
He is not praising a terrorist organization by calling them very smart.
Emperor Palpatine from Star Wars was smart. Saying that does not mean you side with the dark side of the force. See how that works?
Tgo01
10-12-2023, 03:50 PM
People (mostly Hamas loving leftists) demanded proof that the Hamas terrorists murdered babies, so Israel provided the proof:
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/10/12/after-demands-for-proof-pictures-of-murdered-babies-in-israel-are-released-n2164973
No actual images are at this link, it just describes the images that have been released.
Next up for the Hamas loving Democrats is to downplay this or ignore it. Maybe they can keep bringing up things Trump said that they disagree with.
Neveragain
10-12-2023, 03:54 PM
Menendez is shitting himself right now.
Suppressed Poet
10-12-2023, 04:53 PM
I haven’t heard anything in the news talk about it, but is Israel going to claim & take over the Temple Mount in Jerusalem? For those that may not know, that temple is currently a mosque. If Israel claims that and builds the Third Temple that would be fulfilling some major end of days heavy biblical prophecy shit & we’re all going to die.
Seran
10-12-2023, 05:02 PM
He is not praising a terrorist organization by calling them very smart.
Emperor Palpatine from Star Wars was smart. Saying that does not mean you side with the dark side of the force. See how that works?
Semantics. If you want to say he's offering a compliment of their tactics, or encouraging their use of intelligent tactics, either way it's pretty fuckin bad to do anything but shun the murdering of innocents, right? Trump will probably praise Hitler for the advances or reducing the number of prisoners held during his rule. Do you usually go around praising villains?
Suppressed Poet
10-12-2023, 05:20 PM
Semantics. If you want to say he's offering a compliment of their tactics, or encouraging their use of intelligent tactics, either way it's pretty fuckin bad to do anything but shun the murdering of innocents, right? Trump will probably praise Hitler for the advances or reducing the number of prisoners held during his rule. Do you usually go around praising villains?
Hitler was arguably the most gifted orator of the 20th Century & he did a pretty decent job with the Reichsautobahn system. Saying that truth doesn’t make him any less of a Jew-hating tyrannical evil piece of shit that is responsible for the deaths of millions.
Guister
10-12-2023, 05:24 PM
No racist.
Spew more fantasy BS sprinkled by buzzwords.
Get out of here jewboy.
Tgo01
10-12-2023, 05:33 PM
Seran: I see time4LovingNazis has the worst take in this topic and everyone was universally disgusted with her comments. How can I top this? I know! I'll divert attention away from the horrors Hamas inflicted upon innocent babies and children by talking about how much I dislike something Trump said!
Guister
10-12-2023, 07:01 PM
Here's the situation as I see it:
You have war, yet again. You have peach fairy Trump who is talking and everyone in America is listening for some reason. Then you have Hammas who is terrorizing Israel beacuse Israel bullied their way in 70 or so years ago and kicked 7 million palestinians out.
I'll repeat my stance:
It is wrong to kill maim and abduct, therefore, Hammas should not be doing that. Israel is already there. I don't see a reason to rebel further and terrorize further.
On the other hand, a conscientious Israel should HELP the situation and not declare further war. It is just war. It is just about land. It is just about leader extending their egos into the public sphere and trying to create some sort of legacy for themselves.
~Rocktar~
10-12-2023, 07:50 PM
Here's the situation as I see it:
You have war, yet again. You have peach fairy Trump who is talking and everyone in America is listening for some reason. Then you have Hammas who is terrorizing Israel beacuse Israel bullied their way in 70 or so years ago and kicked 7 million palestinians out.
I'll repeat my stance:
It is wrong to kill maim and abduct, therefore, Hammas should not be doing that. Israel is already there. I don't see a reason to rebel further and terrorize further.
On the other hand, a conscientious Israel should HELP the situation and not declare further war. It is just war. It is just about land. It is just about leader extending their egos into the public sphere and trying to create some sort of legacy for themselves.
It's not about land you fucking moppet moron. It never has been, it's about the existence of a Jewish state and the Jewish people. From as far back as there are records, Arabs (There is no Palestine, there is no "Palestinian", they are just angry Muslim Arabs) have been seeking the eradication of the Jew. The only reason they have not been successful is strength and money, the same reasons they are not successful today. They have been offered their own state six fucking times and every time, turned it down because they can't stand the idea of Israel being allowed to exist.
Fuck off shit bag Leftist racist. But I repeat myself.
Seran
10-12-2023, 07:56 PM
Seran: I see time4LovingNazis has the worst take in this topic and everyone was universally disgusted with her comments. How can I top this? I know! I'll divert attention away from the horrors Hamas inflicted upon innocent babies and children by talking about how much I dislike something Trump said!
I'm curious, why whenever you're backed into a corner about the ridiculous claims you don't seem to support, do you start trouting out ridiculous whataboutisms? Trump said something stupid that other conservatives and the ADL is jumping all over his head about, why not just not respond or simply say, 'He shouldn't have said that.' You're putting out all of these dumb ass deflections and equivocations excusing the dumb ass statement, don't you have better ways to spend your time than defending the indefensible?
Seran
10-12-2023, 07:58 PM
Dreaven: Trump praises terrorists, but what about those babies the terrorists tried to kill?!
Also Dreaven: Trump says Crimea properly belongs to Russia at a joint press statement with Putin, but what about those people crossing the border into Mexico?!!?
Guister
10-12-2023, 08:01 PM
It's not about land you fucking moppet moron. It never has been, it's about the existence of a Jewish state and the Jewish people. From as far back as there are records, Arabs (There is no Palestine, there is no "Palestinian", they are just angry Muslim Arabs) have been seeking the eradication of the Jew. The only reason they have not been successful is strength and money, the same reasons they are not successful today. They have been offered their own state six fucking times and every time, turned it down because they can't stand the idea of Israel being allowed to exist.
Fuck off shit bag Leftist racist. But I repeat myself.
Are you circumcised?
Methais
10-12-2023, 08:03 PM
Dreaven: Trump praises terrorists, but what about those babies the terrorists tried to kill?!
What do you mean "tried?"
How do you never become aware of what a giant herpes dickface you are?
Guister
10-12-2023, 08:05 PM
What do you mean "tried?"
How do you never become aware of what a giant herpes dickface you are?
Okay, as much as I hate to admit it, Methais has some good insults. And I will give him props for that.
~Rocktar~
10-12-2023, 08:14 PM
Are you circumcised?
Why, does that arouse you, you want to ride my dick? Piss off racist cock dribble.
Neveragain
10-12-2023, 08:40 PM
It's not about land you fucking moppet moron. It never has been, it's about the existence of a Jewish state and the Jewish people. From as far back as there are records, Arabs (There is no Palestine, there is no "Palestinian", they are just angry Muslim Arabs) have been seeking the eradication of the Jew. The only reason they have not been successful is strength and money, the same reasons they are not successful today. They have been offered their own state six fucking times and every time, turned it down because they can't stand the idea of Israel being allowed to exist.
Fuck off shit bag Leftist racist. But I repeat myself.
It's more than just Jewish people. It's about a large portion of the world being able to freely and safely undergo pilgrimage to the center of their belief system.
Tgo01
10-12-2023, 08:42 PM
but what about those babies the terrorists tried to kill?!
TRIED to kill? Israel released photos of babies who were burned alive and decapitated by those terrorists. "Tried" to kill by ass.
Congrats, Seran! You have managed to make a more horrific post than time4LovingNazis!
How does it feel to be a Nazi sympathizer?
Suppressed Poet
10-12-2023, 08:46 PM
Here's the situation as I see it:
You have war, yet again. You have peach fairy Trump who is talking and everyone in America is listening for some reason. Then you have Hammas who is terrorizing Israel beacuse Israel bullied their way in 70 or so years ago and kicked 7 million palestinians out.
I'll repeat my stance:
It is wrong to kill maim and abduct, therefore, Hammas should not be doing that. Israel is already there. I don't see a reason to rebel further and terrorize further.
On the other hand, a conscientious Israel should HELP the situation and not declare further war. It is just war. It is just about land. It is just about leader extending their egos into the public sphere and trying to create some sort of legacy for themselves.
You’re wrong and immoral.
They killed a fucking baby today. This isn’t merely about land. It’s a war of survival. You don’t respond to acts of barbarism by turning the other cheek & saying it’s all good now. The only way a real peace can be achieved is the total eviction of the Palestinian people from Israeli lands & occupied territory, and that’s what’s about to happen.
Suppressed Poet
10-12-2023, 08:49 PM
Why, does that arouse you, you want to ride my dick? Piss off racist cock dribble.
He expressed having a weird fetish of cybering with Aelotoi she-males. I guess that detail is important to him.
Guister
10-12-2023, 09:54 PM
Why, does that arouse you, you want to ride my dick? Piss off racist cock dribble.
I'm trying to determine if you are Jewish or not.
Guister
10-12-2023, 09:56 PM
You’re wrong and immoral.
They killed a fucking baby today. This isn’t merely about land. It’s a war of survival. You don’t respond to acts of barbarism by turning the other cheek & saying it’s all good now. The only way a real peace can be achieved is the total eviction of the Palestinian people from Israeli lands & occupied territory, and that’s what’s about to happen.
They killed a baby?
Listen you pussy-ass American. Do you know what they did to Astyanax at the end of the Iliad? They dashed his head against the walls.
Baby killing, while horrific, is a small part of war. There is also raping, sheep fucking, torture, abduction, mutilation, maiming, and bombing (especially if you're an American pussy). You think napalming a village (vietnam) is any worse? Terrorists attack with what they have.
Parkbandit
10-12-2023, 09:58 PM
It's funny, Trump argues he can't be prosecuted because he's too important as the self-styled Republican nominee for 2024, but when he does things like praise the murderous acts of terrorists you feel that is anything but important. The leader of the free world shouldn't be beholden to terrorist groups, Trump obviously disagrees as evidenced by his statement and association with North Korea.
So far, quadrupled down on your initial retardation.
Retard⁴
Parkbandit
10-12-2023, 09:59 PM
Saying that does not mean you side with the dark side of the force. See how that works?
You do realize that Seran not only doesn't see how that works.. he doesn't even understand the concept of work.
Seran
10-12-2023, 10:00 PM
TRIED to kill? Israel released photos of babies who were burned alive and decapitated by those terrorists. "Tried" to kill by ass.
Congrats, Seran! You have managed to make a more horrific post than time4LovingNazis!
How does it feel to be a Nazi sympathizer?
And here we have Trump praising the intelligence of the people trying to kill innocent men, women and children. I imagine you're choke sobbing in denial of how crazy your orange messiah is.
Parkbandit
10-12-2023, 10:01 PM
Are you circumcised?
Leave it to you to sit and imagine what a guy's penis looks like, MacGayver.
Guister
10-12-2023, 10:02 PM
Leave it to you to sit and imagine what a guy's penis looks like, MacGayver.
lol, I don't want to imagine what the Jew-fuck's penis looks like but the retard is spouting anti-liberal propaganda and sounds like a complete dill-hole. What am I gonna do but fan the flames and encourage a quick and painful bout of the ritual known as seppuku.
Parkbandit
10-12-2023, 10:06 PM
lol, I don't want to imagine what the Jew-fuck's penis looks like but...
Are you circumcised?
Sure, MacGayver.
Sure.
Guister
10-12-2023, 10:08 PM
You’re wrong and immoral.
They killed a fucking baby today. This isn’t merely about land. It’s a war of survival. You don’t respond to acts of barbarism by turning the other cheek & saying it’s all good now. The only way a real peace can be achieved is the total eviction of the Palestinian people from Israeli lands & occupied territory, and that’s what’s about to happen.
Okay, also... I'll pretend that your intelligence is above Forest Gump's level (at least 75).
You're saying that the solution to war is more war?
You sound like an idiot.
Guister
10-12-2023, 10:09 PM
Sure, MacGayver.
Sure.
lmao
Suppressed Poet
10-12-2023, 10:47 PM
Okay, also... I'll pretend that your intelligence is above Forest Gump's level (at least 75).
You're saying that the solution to war is more war?
You sound like an idiot.
“I might not be a smart man…but I know what war is.”
Tell us more about your pathetic godless jobless hateful leftist ideas about the world, loser.
Guister
10-12-2023, 10:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_ad-rfvtIA
Methais
10-13-2023, 12:25 PM
https://i.imgur.com/rqPKadk.png
Suppressed Poet
10-13-2023, 12:44 PM
Bye, Felicia
https://youtu.be/sQD2At--afs?si=T2B4R69DoAzaEFF-
Methais
10-13-2023, 05:15 PM
https://i.imgur.com/W0uftrP.png
:lol:
Guister
10-13-2023, 05:46 PM
Bye, Felicia
https://youtu.be/sQD2At--afs?si=T2B4R69DoAzaEFF-
The one in the crimson robe was kinda hot.
Suppressed Poet
10-13-2023, 05:57 PM
The one in the crimson robe was kinda hot.
If you say so. She probably has a dick.
Solkern
10-13-2023, 11:46 PM
'Top secret' Hamas documents show that terrorists intentionally targeted elementary schools and a youth center
Documents exclusively obtained by NBC News show that Hamas created detailed plans to target elementary schools and a youth center in the Israeli kibbutz of Kfar Sa'ad, to "kill as many people as possible," seize hostages and quickly move them into the Gaza Strip.
https://us.yahoo.com/news/top-secret-hamas-documents-show-231527551.html
Fuck these bitches.
Solkern
10-13-2023, 11:50 PM
Israel posted proof of babies being killed
https://i.imgur.com/52EfP1V.jpg
Disgusting.
Methais
10-14-2023, 08:21 AM
'Top secret' Hamas documents show that terrorists intentionally targeted elementary schools and a youth center
Documents exclusively obtained by NBC News show that Hamas created detailed plans to target elementary schools and a youth center in the Israeli kibbutz of Kfar Sa'ad, to "kill as many people as possible," seize hostages and quickly move them into the Gaza Strip.
https://us.yahoo.com/news/top-secret-hamas-documents-show-231527551.html
Fuck these bitches.
Whoa, settle down there bigot. Didn't you get the memo of enlightenment the other day?
This is a really complex situation, and simplistic stances aren't helpful.
^
Neveragain
10-14-2023, 01:46 PM
Israel posted proof of babies being killed
https://i.imgur.com/52EfP1V.jpg
Disgusting.
It sickens me with how the UN and the MSM are starting to pull the same "but the Palestinian children!"
This cycle has been going on my entire life, they were finally given their own state and elected a terrorist organization as their government. The cycle has to end.
Children are going to die, either way.
Two parables offer the just decision in this moral delema.
Parable of the mustard seed and the parable of the fruit tree.
Tgo01
10-14-2023, 02:04 PM
It's sad to see Palestinian children being killed too. But here's the thing: rather than far leftists pulling their heads out of their ass and saying "What we need to do is free Gaza of Hamas!" the time4LovingNazis of the world immediately screech "It's Israel's fault!"
No. Hamas is to blame for all of this, ALL OF IT. It's time you stopped viewing them as "freedom fighters" and viewed them as the terrorists that they are and they need to be removed from Gaza then the peace process can begin.
Until then all of this can be blamed on Hamas and people who defend Hamas.
Neveragain
10-14-2023, 02:27 PM
It's sad to see Palestinian children being killed too. But here's the thing: rather than far leftists pulling their heads out of their ass and saying "What we need to do is free Gaza of Hamas!" the time4LovingNazis of the world immediately screech "It's Israel's fault!"
No. Hamas is to blame for all of this, ALL OF IT. It's time you stopped viewing them as "freedom fighters" and viewed them as the terrorists that they are and they need to be removed from Gaza then the peace process can begin.
Until then all of this can be blamed on Hamas and people who defend Hamas.
It's pretty obvious that there needs to be an occupying force that's not Israel in that northern zone of Gaza. If Egypt continues to be Egypt, don't be surprised if it's the US.
Anebriated
10-14-2023, 07:11 PM
It's pretty obvious that there needs to be an occupying force that's not Israel in that northern zone of Gaza. If Egypt continues to be Egypt, don't be surprised if it's the US.
Depends, is there oil in Gaza?
Neveragain
10-14-2023, 07:33 PM
Depends, is there oil in Gaza?
It isn't about Gaza. If a terrorist group like ISIS takes Israel, they will desecrate 1000's of years of history. It would be a modern day burning of the Library of Alexandria.
Guister
10-14-2023, 07:42 PM
It's sad to see Palestinian children being killed too. But here's the thing: rather than far leftists pulling their heads out of their ass and saying "What we need to do is free Gaza of Hamas!" the time4LovingNazis of the world immediately screech "It's Israel's fault!"
No. Hamas is to blame for all of this, ALL OF IT. It's time you stopped viewing them as "freedom fighters" and viewed them as the terrorists that they are and they need to be removed from Gaza then the peace process can begin.
Until then all of this can be blamed on Hamas and people who defend Hamas.
But more importantly, what kind of ice cream do you think Putin eats?
Tgo01
10-15-2023, 04:18 AM
Let's all remember that time4LovingNazis, Seran, and other people like them made a bigger deal about a bunch of unarmed people walking around the capitol building than they did about Hamas slaughtering thousands of people.
Anebriated
10-15-2023, 07:48 AM
It isn't about Gaza. If a terrorist group like ISIS takes Israel, they will desecrate 1000's of years of history. It would be a modern day burning of the Library of Alexandria.
If the US is getting involved at that level its not because they fear the loss of historical artifacts.
Suppressed Poet
10-15-2023, 10:20 AM
If the US is getting involved at that level its not because they fear the loss of historical artifacts.
https://media2.giphy.com/media/uj8SbnHpCfxlm3jfJA/giphy.gif
Anebriated
10-15-2023, 01:29 PM
It was half joking when I said it but would you look at this...
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1713443806673334606?s=20
Solkern
10-17-2023, 11:41 AM
Israel is going to destroy the Gaza Strip, and all the Hamas and their supporters there. What’s sad? This is the only option as this struggle will go on and on and on, it seems like eradication is the only choice.
Parkbandit
10-17-2023, 12:16 PM
Israel is going to destroy the Gaza Strip, and all the Hamas and their supporters there. What’s sad? This is the only option as this struggle will go on and on and on, it seems like eradication is the only choice.
Wipe it clean and take it over. Build a fence between Egypt and the new part of Israel.
Israel has been far too nice to terrorists for far too long. It's sad that the civilians are now uprooted.. but that's what happens when you "elect" a terrorist group to lead.
Methais
10-17-2023, 12:20 PM
Wipe it clean and take it over. Build a fence between Egypt and the new part of Israel.
Israel has been far too nice to terrorists for far too long. It's sad that the civilians are now uprooted.. but that's what happens when you "elect" a terrorist group to lead.
In before Seran "Trump supporter's are the REAL terrorist's!!!!"
Solkern
10-17-2023, 12:27 PM
In before Seran "Trump supporter's are the REAL terrorist's!!!!"
YOU METHAIS, ARE A GAY TERRORIST!
Methais
10-17-2023, 12:32 PM
YOU METHAIS, ARE A GAY TERRORIST!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7uk-88XYAAOqDL.png
Solkern
10-17-2023, 12:33 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7uk-88XYAAOqDL.png
That first one is fucking hilarious. If they went over there, they’d be stoned to death. Yet they “support” them.
Anebriated
10-17-2023, 12:36 PM
That first one is fucking hilarious. If they went over there, they’d be stoned to death. Yet they “support” them.
Its funny but sad because these are the types of people the policy makers are bending knee to.
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