Totalitarian Trump!

[Alashir]

Here's the initial investigative report from Military Times

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/04/08/the-death-toll-for-rising-aviation-accidents-133-troops-killed-in-five-years/

I mean, what more proof do you need?

I'd love to see a question posed (why are mishaps higher) and then a root cause analysis performed as opposed to (budget cuts over x years have caused this). I can't locate her data for 2011 - 2017 let alone data before that which means her graphs and charts are meaningless without something to compare them to. Is this a trend? Have there ever been increased mishaps at any other time? Cutting $50 billion over 10 months sounds like a big deal but when your budget is $750 billion/year and those cuts are supposed to affect the entire service, why are we having aviation specific issues? We both agree that our military does not spend funds wisely and then see a correlation with a very specific type of accident after broad budget cuts. I'd ask why but you're starting with a conclusion and going from there. Not having done ample research on this topic, I don't why it is, but linking an article with a high probability of bias without independently verified results or transparent sources isn't the best way to convince someone of anything.

[Alashir]

You: provide sources!

Me: here you go

You: nuh uh, fake news!

Me: **facepalm**

You do a great disservice to your fellow men and women in the military by propping up a president who gives no regards to the value and life of those willing to sacrifice everything for your ability to be a shit bird on the internet.

[caelric]

Aviation specific issues: because the inherent danger of aviation means it is the one to first suffer from lost training and delayed maintenance.

50 billion out of a 750 billion budget is a very significant portion of the budget.

And it's pretty clear you're not going to be convinced, even with the clear evidence right before your eyes.

Regardless of your beliefs or not, cutting the military budget without decreasing the requirements, as was done during the Obama/Biden administration directly led to the deaths of service members. This doesn't even count any indirect results of the budget cuts. There is blood on Obama's and Biden's hands, and I fear for the military during the next four years. Especially with folks like Neera Tanden, who wanted to go to the Middle East and kill brown people to get money to pay for Medicare as part of the administration.

[caelric]

You do a great disservice to your fellow men and women in the military by propping up a president who gives no regards to the value and life of those willing to sacrifice everything for your ability to be a shit bird on the internet.

Wow. Just wow. Did you vote for Biden? Then the blood of service members is on your hands, as well.

[Neveragain]

Same shit different day.

Democrats: Defund the police!

Also Democrats: Our police need better training!

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ba/2c/67/ba2c67fcf810ea6aada3c967368440bd.gif

[Seran]

Same shit different day.

Democrats: Defund the police!

Also Democrats: Our police need better training!

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ba/2c/67/ba2c67fcf810ea6aada3c967368440bd.gif

Well, ones a pretty accurate statement and the other was a slogan picked up by idiots. In other news Obama gave a great talk the other day why the Defund the Police slogan was such a bad idea. "Polarizing" "Disenfranchising" were key points and he's right. Anarchists want to get rid of the police. Sensible individuals what to get rid of bad police.

[caelric]

"Polarizing" "Disenfranchising" were key points and he's right. Anarchists want to get rid of the police. Sensible individuals what to get rid of bad police.

Actually, I completely agree with you there, with the caveat that there's probably a lot more people than you think that really do want to completely defund and disband the police.

[Tgo01]

Well, ones a pretty accurate statement and the other was a slogan picked up by idiots.

True. BLM was pretty dumb to pick up the slogan of "defund the police."

In fact BLM leaders were angry with Joe Biden for first backing the "defund the police" movement and then almost immediately going against the narrative. The BLM leaders feel Joe Biden used them.

Gee, imagine that. And here is Seran the idiot thinking it was Republicans who picked up on that slogan. How does it feel to be the least intelligent useful idiot to have ever existed?

[Shaps]

Well, ones a pretty accurate statement and the other was a slogan picked up by idiots. In other news Obama gave a great talk the other day why the Defund the Police slogan was such a bad idea. "Polarizing" "Disenfranchising" were key points and he's right. Anarchists want to get rid of the police. Sensible individuals what to get rid of bad police.

Beginning my four years of whining, as has been rightly afforded me by the whining of others (not you - in general) over the previous four years...

This is a blatant DOGWHISTLE that Obama used. He was speaking to all the socialists and communists in DOGWHISTLE terms that they should continue their dismantling of the police, but with nicer (insert DOGWHISTLE) terminology.

The blatant discrimination and DOGWHISTLES used in his interview must be condemned and he must be doxed immediately!

Am I off to a good start? Decent facsimile? Shit, this is going to be fun. I missed out all this time.

BTW.. Joe Biden is racist! And sexist! He likes showing his penis to Secret Service agents! It's TRUE! (Don't ask for evidence - This is my right to say!) Blah blah cry cry (insert screaming SJW photo here).

[Seran]

True. BLM was pretty dumb to pick up the slogan of "defund the police."

In fact BLM leaders were angry with Joe Biden for first backing the "defund the police" movement and then almost immediately going against the narrative. The BLM leaders feel Joe Biden used them.

Gee, imagine that. And here is Seran the idiot thinking it was Republicans who picked up on that slogan. How does it feel to be the least intelligent useful idiot to have ever existed?

Wait, what? I'm saying just the opposite that it was foolish members of the Democratic party that picked up the Defund the Police slogan and citing an Obama article pointing out how that movement alienated more support than it generated.

[Tgo01]

Wait, what? I'm saying just the opposite that it was foolish members of the Democratic party that picked up the Defund the Police slogan and citing an Obama article pointing out how that movement alienated more support than it generated.

Sure you were.

You calling BLM foolish now? When did you become such a racist?

[Seran]

One of the biggest downfalls of racial identity politics is no one really wins. The so called progressive element pushing it ends up losing support of the majority of other's who don't, all the while failing to notice that the only way to perpetuate the policy of racial equality is by excluding others who aren't of the target minority, which just further alienates others. Biden is facing it right now with the left flank of his party telling him he must put more African Americans in his cabinet, else he'll lose the support of that community. Problem is there's also a huge Hispanic community, as well as growing numbers of individuals from Asian countries which are just as underrepresented.

In the end Biden would do best to pick those most qualified and shutting out those who mistakenly believe Race is the only qualification that matters for public office.

[Seran]

Sure you were.

You calling BLM foolish now? When did you become such a racist?

Trying to have a serious discussion on race baiting and you're trolling. Good luck with that dude.

[Tgo01]

Trying to have a serious discussion on race baiting and you're trolling. Good luck with that dude.

Oh wow. For going on 12 years now Republicans have been called racists for disagreeing with black people, now suddenly Biden "wins" an election and it's "race baiting" to say Seran is racist for calling BLM foolish?

So are you going to fully admit Biden was a piece of shit for jumping on board the defund the police movement before backing off? Are you going to fully admit he was a piece of shit to use the movement to further his own political ambitions then tossed them aside as soon as they served their purpose?

Or you just going to go around and around with this dumb Obama thing of him calling out the dumb ass movement that Biden first backed? It would be nice if you could at least attempt to be a normal and rational human being, but you are anything but. You are just reactionary and can't give a single fucking opinion of your own and have to rely on people like Obama of all people to give you your talking points and direction.

[Parkbandit]

Well, ones a pretty accurate statement and the other was a slogan picked up by idiots. In other news Obama gave a great talk the other day why the Defund the Police slogan was such a bad idea. "Polarizing" "Disenfranchising" were key points and he's right. Anarchists want to get rid of the police. Sensible individuals what to get rid of bad police.

That's what you heard?

I heard a guy that actually agrees with the notion, but because "DEFUND THE POLICE" is so in your face and not using flowery language, people couldn't get behind it. It wasn't the policy Obama had a problem with, it was the language and messaging he took issue with.

[Parkbandit]

In the end Biden would do best to pick those most qualified and shutting out those who mistakenly believe Race is the only qualification that matters for public office.

He's literally doing the exact opposite of that from the very beginning.

He picked a woman VP because he was pressured into it.

He picked a POC VP because he was pressured into it.

Do you honestly believe that Kamala Harris was the most qualified person to become VP.. or was she the most qualified person to become VP who is a black woman with name recognition?

[Seran]

Oh wow. For going on 12 years now Republicans have been called racists for disagreeing with black people, now suddenly Biden "wins" an election and it's "race baiting" to say Seran is racist for calling BLM foolish?

So are you going to fully admit Biden was a piece of shit for jumping on board the defund the police movement before backing off? Are you going to fully admit he was a piece of shit to use the movement to further his own political ambitions then tossed them aside as soon as they served their purpose?

Or you just going to go around and around with this dumb Obama thing of him calling out the dumb ass movement that Biden first backed? It would be nice if you could at least attempt to be a normal and rational human being, but you are anything but. You are just reactionary and can't give a single fucking opinion of your own and have to rely on people like Obama of all people to give you your talking points and direction.

The sheer amount of froth on your computer screen must be epic. I see no reason to answer when you're asking and answering your own questions. They're wrong conclusions, but whatever you're boring.

[Seran]

He's literally doing the exact opposite of that from the very beginning.

He picked a woman VP because he was pressured into it.

He picked a POC VP because he was pressured into it.

Do you honestly believe that Kamala Harris was the most qualified person to become VP.. or was she the most qualified person to become VP who is a black woman with name recognition?

Hell no I don't believe she was the best pick and I strongly agree she was given that role because Biden felt he needed to placate the black community. Had he of held out, brought a more qualified VP and correctly named Kamala as his Attorney General, he'd have still won and had a stronger administration.

[Seran]

That's what you heard?

I heard a guy that actually agrees with the notion, but because "DEFUND THE POLICE" is so in your face and not using flowery language, people couldn't get behind it. It wasn't the policy Obama had a problem with, it was the language and messaging he took issue with.

That's what I heard. I don't believe such a powerful Democrat politician and a leader in the Black Community would come out against the Defund the Police movement if he didn't feel it was the wrong message. The amount of push back from the far left and his recalcitrance to back down days later are proof enough of that theory.

[Neveragain]

I don't believe such a powerful Democrat politician and a leader in the Black Community.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjugN-nUHh8

[Neveragain]

Hell no I'm totally OK with imprisoning innocent black men. A V.P. really isn't in a position they can do that, attorney general on the other hand....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HakVqlP4qM

[Parkbandit]

That's what I heard. I don't believe such a powerful Democrat politician and a leader in the Black Community would come out against the Defund the Police movement if he didn't feel it was the wrong message. The amount of push back from the far left and his recalcitrance to back down days later are proof enough of that theory.

Exactly.. the "wrong message". Not that he doesn't disagree with the policy, but that he knows when you say "Defund the police", you will instantly lose some votes.

He's a politician... all he cares about is literally the number of votes he can get.

Notice how Joe Biden didn't come out against the riots until he saw a drop in his poll numbers? He couldn't give two shits about the riots or what businesses/lives they effect.. he only cared about his polling numbers and the moment he saw his numbers going down on that particular question, he bravely came out against the riots... and people like you were like "OMG BIDEN IS AGAINST TEH RIOTS!"

[Parkbandit]

Hell no I don't believe she was the best pick and I strongly agree she was given that role because Biden felt he needed to placate the black community. Had he of held out, brought a more qualified VP and correctly named Kamala as his Attorney General, he'd have still won and had a stronger administration.

What? What black woman had more name recognition than Kamala? There wasn't one. He painted himself into a corner because alllllllll he cares about is vote and placating to his crazy lunatic alt left base. He said he would nominate a woman... and that wasn't good enough for them.. it had to be a black woman.

There were 3 choices he had.. Abrams, Rice and Harris. He picked Harris because she would be the least toxic and easily pliable to fit his needs.

Hell, she probably sucked his dick to get the nomination and let him smell her hair.

[Seran]

What? What black woman had more name recognition than Kamala? There wasn't one. He painted himself into a corner because alllllllll he cares about is vote and placating to his crazy lunatic alt left base. He said he would nominate a woman... and that wasn't good enough for them.. it had to be a black woman.

There were 3 choices he had.. Abrams, Rice and Harris. He picked Harris because she would be the least toxic and easily pliable to fit his needs.

Hell, she probably sucked his dick to get the nomination and let him smell her hair.

My point being he didn't need to pick a black running mate at all and anyone who feels a white candidate must run with non-white running mate is perpetuating racism. Doing it for political reasons is less damning and you're on point that he did it to secure votes, but it's not heartwarming to think the Democrat party would require diversity as a litmus test.

[Parkbandit]

My point being he didn't need to pick a black running mate at all and anyone who feels a white candidate must run with non-white running mate is perpetuating racism. Doing it for political reasons is less damning and you're on point that he did it to secure votes,

Biden is easily manipulated and was painted into a corner by his alt-left fringe. A woman wasn't good enough, they wanted a black woman and they forced the issue until he agreed to it. Once there, he couldn't go back on his pledge, so he had to pick between 3 people.. and he went with the one who called him a racist and sexist.


but it's not heartwarming to think the Democrat party would require diversity as a litmus test.

Democrats have been pushing their idea of diversity for 40 years once they figured out that minorities would vote for them, despite a long history of racism.

[caelric]

and he went with the one who called him a racist and sexist.


I mean, he could have gone with Stacey Abrams. I'm sure that would have worked out well.

[Seran]

Biden is easily manipulated and was painted into a corner by his alt-left fringe. A woman wasn't good enough, they wanted a black woman and they forced the issue until he agreed to it. Once there, he couldn't go back on his pledge, so he had to pick between 3 people.. and he went with the one who called him a racist and sexist.



Democrats have been pushing their idea of diversity for 40 years once they figured out that minorities would vote for them, despite a long history of racism.

I don't know that I'd paint him as being easily manipulated, but I'd definitely say he was a canny politician and a horrible public speaker. At the end of the day, he was a better choice as President to me. Had it of been Mayor Pete, I'd have been on the street corners handing out Vote Pete buttons.

[Parkbandit]

I don't know that I'd paint him as being easily manipulated, but I'd definitely say he was a canny politician and a horrible public speaker.

He's a 3 time loser who was given this nomination because the other candidates were that fucking batshit insane.


At the end of the day, he was a better choice as President to me. Had it of been Mayor Pete, I'd have been on the street corners handing out Vote Pete buttons.

He gave you Biden.

I wonder what he got for giving Biden the nomination.. time will tell.

[Back]

He's a 3 time loser who was given this nomination because the other candidates were that fucking batshit insane.



He gave you Biden.

I wonder what he got for giving Biden the nomination.. time will tell.

You consitantly claim democrstic leaders are chosen for the people. I know thats how it works in the republican party but in the democratic party we have a primary and vote for which candidate appeals to the majority. Biden won the primary and then the presidency because the majority of people voted for him. Not through some conspiratorial installment by a shadow board of the DNC.

Since we're on the subject I'll also mention that democratic issues like affordable health care, decent wages, civil rights for everyone, clean energy, clean air and water, these are issues the majority of Americans want not some shadow cabal of evil puppetmasters. Thats what the rich are trying to convince you of because they know there are more of us than there are of them and if we realized that we would make them give up their rule over us.

[Parkbandit]

You consitantly claim democrstic leaders are chosen for the people. I know thats how it works in the republican party but in the democratic party we have a primary and vote for which candidate appeals to the majority. Biden won the primary and then the presidency because the majority of people voted for him. Not through some conspiratorial installment by a shadow board of the DNC.

Since we're on the subject I'll also mention that democratic issues like affordable health care, decent wages, civil rights for everyone, clean energy, clean air and water, these are issues the majority of Americans want not some shadow cabal of evil puppetmasters. Thats what the rich are trying to convince you of because they know there are more of us than there are of them and if we realized that we would make them give up their rule over us.

Serious question: Do you have to put forth any type of effort to make your post sound dumber than humanly possible.. or is this just the absence of effort?

[Neveragain]

You consitantly claim democrstic leaders are chosen for the people. I know thats how it works in the republican party but in the democratic party we have a primary and vote for which candidate appeals to the majority. Biden won the primary and then the presidency because the majority of people voted for him. Not through some conspiratorial installment by a shadow board of the DNC.

Since we're on the subject I'll also mention that democratic issues like affordable health care, decent wages, civil rights for everyone, clean energy, clean air and water, these are issues the majority of Americans want not some shadow cabal of evil puppetmasters. Thats what the rich are trying to convince you of because they know there are more of us than there are of them and if we realized that we would make them give up their rule over us.

National Socialism has a final solution for those problems.

[Seran]

Serious question: Do you have to put forth any type of effort to make your post sound dumber than humanly possible.. or is this just the absence of effort?

All of their statements were true, so what's the point of trolling? Shaming Back into somehow thinking they have subpar intelligence hasn't been effective and clearly a good number of their posts are factual. I assume you just don't agree with their position, which is fine, but attacking the argument without producing a shred of evidence of your own is an idiots way of debating. I know you're capable of informed response.

[~Rocktar~]

All of their statements were true, so what's the point of trolling? Shaming Back into somehow thinking they have subpar intelligence hasn't been effective and clearly a good number of their posts are factual. I assume you just don't agree with their position, which is fine, but attacking the argument without producing a shred of evidence of your own is an idiots way of debating. I know you're capable of informed response.

Pot, meet kettle. Zero. Self. Awareness.

[Neveragain]

All of their statements were true, so what's the point of trolling? Shaming Back into somehow thinking they have subpar intelligence hasn't been effective and clearly a good number of their posts are factual. I assume you just don't agree with their position, which is fine, but attacking the argument without producing a shred of evidence of your own is an idiots way of debating. I know you're capable of informed response.


like affordable health care, decent wages, civil rights for everyone, clean energy, clean air and water.

A. Affordable healthcare has nothing to do with forcing people to buy a product.

B. What's a decent wage? Is that "nobody can have more stuff than me!" decent wage?

C. Civil rights for everyone except the 10's of thousands of human beings they celebrate murdering every year.

D. Clean energy is already available but Democrats have spent decades fighting against nuclear powered energy. Our entire submarine fleet is nuclear powered and we have had exceptional results for decades.

[Parkbandit]

All of their statements were true, so what's the point of trolling? Shaming Back into somehow thinking they have subpar intelligence hasn't been effective and clearly a good number of their posts are factual. I assume you just don't agree with their position, which is fine, but attacking the argument without producing a shred of evidence of your own is an idiots way of debating. I know you're capable of informed response.

No one expects you to take any issue with what Backlash was spewing.. given you spew the same retarded shit all the time.

It's literally you, Backlash and time4Andraste that have been fighting over the retard championship belt for years now.

[Back]

Serious question: Do you have to put forth any type of effort to make your post sound dumber than humanly possible.. or is this just the absence of effort?

You know, I get that there are people who yearn to be at the top. They are given the carrot and the stick to think that one day they too will have all the money and power which keeps the cycle going. Those with the money and power count on this "American Dream" to keep others obedient and working for them so they can stay in power. Throw off the shackles of oppression brother!

[Neveragain]

You know, I get that there are people who yearn to be at the top. They are given the carrot and the stick to think that one day they too will have all the money and power which keeps the cycle going. Those with the money and power count on this "American Dream" to keep others obedient and working for them so they can stay in power. Throw off the shackles of oppression brother!

No, some people are just a fuck ton better at making money than you. You're a jealous cunt, that is all.

More people have dug themselves out of poverty under our financial system than any other system in human history.

[Methais]

Alright, so let's take a look at the reality of the situation then. You signed up for military service, your friends signed up for military service despite knowing full well the risks involved. You go where your commanders send you, regardless of the policy involved or your feelings about the levels of funding which still grossly exceeded the per serviceman funding during the Korean and Vietnam wars. So, while I still thank you for your service despite your rather cock-eyed political perspective. Your assumptions about deployments under Biden are pure speculation at best, naive at worst and yet you still got exactly what you signed up for. Military service.

Spoken like a true cunt.

[Astray]

Alright, so let's take a look at the reality of the situation then. You signed up for military service, your friends signed up for military service despite knowing full well the risks involved. You go where your commanders send you, regardless of the policy involved or your feelings about the levels of funding which still grossly exceeded the per serviceman funding during the Korean and Vietnam wars. So, while I still thank you for your service despite your rather cock-eyed political perspective. Your assumptions about deployments under Biden are pure speculation at best, naive at worst and yet you still got exactly what you signed up for. Military service.

Some bases are running on the fumes of fumes when it comes to equipment.

[Keller]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjugN-nUHh8

Remember when we had a President that could drink water from a glass with a single hand. Ahhhh, the good old days.

[Seran]

A. Affordable healthcare has nothing to do with forcing people to buy a product.

B. What's a decent wage? Is that "nobody can have more stuff than me!" decent wage?

C. Civil rights for everyone except the 10's of thousands of human beings they celebrate murdering every year.

D. Clean energy is already available but Democrats have spent decades fighting against nuclear powered energy. Our entire submarine fleet is nuclear powered and we have had exceptional results for decades.

A) Sure it does. Mayhaps you don't have any familiarity with the insurance industry or understand actuarial tables, but if private insurers only covered the chronically ill, we'd have no private insurance companies left. Premiums paid by low or no utilization customers go to subsidize the costs of high to catastrophic utilization by some, that keeps the premiums for everyone across the board more affordable.

B) Well, a lot of states and large employers have pegged 14-15 dollars an hour a fair, living wage. Unless you're perfectly happy with 40% of the country surviving off of public welfare that taxes you're hopefully paying, are subsidizing.

C) Come on man.

D) The one thing I'll probably ever totally agree with you on. A disproportionate number of Democrats and a growing number of Republicans have it out for nuclear energy. It's incredibly efficient, safe and newer designs have far fewer radioactive byproducts.

Problem is, you do have to store the byproducts for thousands of years. A good bit of it can be recycled, but for what you can't our nation needs to man up and create a remote, secure facility capable of storing the next several decades of waste until nuclear fusion becomes commercially feasible.

[Seran]

Some bases are running on the fumes of fumes when it comes to equipment.

That's a supply chain issue, the Pentagon is more than adequately funded. For those bases we maintain abroad without NATO commitments to co-fund, some serious scrutiny needs to occur.

[Gelston]

That's a supply chain issue, the Pentagon is more than adequately funded. For those bases we maintain abroad without NATO commitments to co-fund, some serious scrutiny needs to occur.

Tell me about your expertise to diagnose what is and isn't a supply chain issue with the US Military. Are you a DoD worker? Are you now, or heave you ever been a member of the military?

[Astray]

That's a supply chain issue

Except it's not.

[Methais]

It's shit like this that makes me believe PTSD therapy should be mandatory following discharge. At the very least we might be able to cut down on partner abuse and police brutality involving former service men and women. So much misguided rage

"There are term limits in Congress." -Soyran

[Methais]

I'd love to see a question posed (why are mishaps higher) and then a root cause analysis performed as opposed to (budget cuts over x years have caused this). I can't locate her data for 2011 - 2017 let alone data before that which means her graphs and charts are meaningless without something to compare them to. Is this a trend? Have there ever been increased mishaps at any other time? Cutting $50 billion over 10 months sounds like a big deal but when your budget is $750 billion/year and those cuts are supposed to affect the entire service, why are we having aviation specific issues? We both agree that our military does not spend funds wisely and then see a correlation with a very specific type of accident after broad budget cuts. I'd ask why but you're starting with a conclusion and going from there. Not having done ample research on this topic, I don't why it is, but linking an article with a high probability of bias without independently verified results or transparent sources isn't the best way to convince someone of anything.

Meanwhile...

"Anonymous source says Trump did bad things."

"OMFG HE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!"

[Seran]

Meanwhile...

"Anonymous source says Trump did bad things."

"OMFG HE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!"

I don't know if you recall this, but Trump did everything within and outside his power to obstruct the impeachment process. Given they were legal proceedings, he likely faces Obstruction of Justice charges. At the time, your people had no problems with his not complying and yet ironically are still blowing gaskets about Hillary Clinton's missing emails.

Look forward to an independent justice department investigation into Trump's impeachment shenanigans. I know I am.

[Parkbandit]

You know, I get that there are people who yearn to be at the top. They are given the carrot and the stick to think that one day they too will have all the money and power which keeps the cycle going. Those with the money and power count on this "American Dream" to keep others obedient and working for them so they can stay in power. Throw off the shackles of oppression brother!

I've never been jealous of what other people have. I've worked hard my entire life to get where I am.

So socialism does nothing for me.

I get why you desire it though.. we're the exact opposite.

[~Rocktar~]

A) Sure it does. Mayhaps you don't have any familiarity with the insurance industry or understand actuarial tables, but if private insurers only covered the chronically ill, we'd have no private insurance companies left. Premiums paid by low or no utilization customers go to subsidize the costs of high to catastrophic utilization by some, that keeps the premiums for everyone across the board more affordable.,

Nice way to make a point that does nothing to address the cost of healthcare. You are addressing the cost of insurance. The cost of insurance does not equal the cost of healthcare. The cost of healthcare does affect the cost of insurance, the cost of insurance does not affect the cost of healthcare.


B) Well, a lot of states and large employers have pegged 14-15 dollars an hour a fair, living wage. Unless you're perfectly happy with 40% of the country surviving off of public welfare that taxes you're hopefully paying, are subsidizing.

And before the Civil War, 15 states thought slavery was ok, before suffrage, the majority of people thought women should not vote and before the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that Democrats voted against, people thought it was ok to have separate bathrooms and separate but equal was ok. Arguing to the popular is a failed logical argument and illustrative of your continued stupidity in arguing emotional garbage.


C) Come on man.

So you are ok with the hundreds of thousands of babies murdered every year in the name of irreparability and freedom from consequences. Up to and including in many states now, just before the moment of birth and including the failure to render care to victims of failed abortions thus letting them die or even euthanizing them? Got it.


D) The one thing I'll probably ever totally agree with you on. A disproportionate number of Democrats and a growing number of Republicans have it out for nuclear energy. It's incredibly efficient, safe and newer designs have far fewer radioactive byproducts.

Problem is, you do have to store the byproducts for thousands of years. A good bit of it can be recycled, but for what you can't our nation needs to man up and create a remote, secure facility capable of storing the next several decades of waste until nuclear fusion becomes commercially feasible.

Possibly one of the only things we could ever agree about. But hey, the eco whackos who hate oil and gas get a win by killing nuclear so it’s all good.

[Seran]

Possibly one of the only things we could ever agree about. But hey, the eco whackos who hate oil and gas get a win by killing nuclear so it’s all good.

I don't understand it myself. Nuclear power has been safely done for a half a century and the number of emergencies or disasters should have been learnings opportunities, rather than excuses to kill a vital industry. Imagine if we no longer needed natural gas and fuel oil, how much of a critical, diminishing resource we could save for products and research. Liberals do cut off our own noses on some issues.

[Methais]

One of the biggest downfalls of racial identity politics is no one really wins. The so called progressive element pushing it ends up losing support of the majority of other's who don't, all the while failing to notice that the only way to perpetuate the policy of racial equality is by excluding others who aren't of the target minority, which just further alienates others. Biden is facing it right now with the left flank of his party telling him he must put more African Americans in his cabinet, else he'll lose the support of that community. Problem is there's also a huge Hispanic community, as well as growing numbers of individuals from Asian countries which are just as underrepresented.

In the end Biden would do best to pick those most qualified and shutting out those who mistakenly believe Race is the only qualification that matters for public office.

To be fair to Biden, he's likely not making any of these decisions. Or any future ones either.

[caelric]

One of the biggest downfalls of racial identity politics is no one really wins. The so called progressive element pushing it ends up losing support of the majority of other's who don't, all the while failing to notice that the only way to perpetuate the policy of racial equality is by excluding others who aren't of the target minority, which just further alienates others. Biden is facing it right now with the left flank of his party telling him he must put more African Americans in his cabinet, else he'll lose the support of that community. Problem is there's also a huge Hispanic community, as well as growing numbers of individuals from Asian countries which are just as underrepresented.

In the end Biden would do best to pick those most qualified and shutting out those who mistakenly believe Race is the only qualification that matters for public office.

Based on that (and despite your apparent disdain for the military, as evidenced by other posts of yours), I'm curious to hear your thoughts on Biden's pick of retired Army General Lloyd Austin as the first black SECDEF?

To be clear, I don't have an opinion one way or another, I never interacted with him during my military career, but it's pretty clear that amongst his many qualifications, him being black was certainly one of the (many) things that led to Biden picking him.

[Seran]

Based on that (and despite your apparent disdain for the military, as evidenced by other posts of yours), I'm curious to hear your thoughts on Biden's pick of retired Army General Lloyd Austin as the first black SECDEF?

To be clear, I don't have an opinion one way or another, I never interacted with him during my military career, but it's pretty clear that amongst his many qualifications, him being black was certainly one of the (many) things that led to Biden picking him.

The General is well qualified in addition to being a person of color and has recent combat experience that puts him in touch. I personally cringe whenever race is a factor in appointments, but as this gentleman is qualified I would support his nomination.

The Senate may have other ideas given a quote I found of his at a prior confirmation hearing; "I thought we would never get anywhere in the Army unless a soldier was secretary of war.” But he added, “As I grew a little older and served through some of our military history, particularly the Philippine insurrection, I came to the fixed conclusion that he should never be a soldier.”

Also, I may disdain illegitimate military actions or occupations , but I respect our veteran's service and sacrifice. I doubt you're convinced, but that's life.

[Gelston]

Based on that (and despite your apparent disdain for the military, as evidenced by other posts of yours), I'm curious to hear your thoughts on Biden's pick of retired Army General Lloyd Austin as the first black SECDEF?

To be clear, I don't have an opinion one way or another, I never interacted with him during my military career, but it's pretty clear that amongst his many qualifications, him being black was certainly one of the (many) things that led to Biden picking him.

He made it to General, whether it was due to race or not for SecDef, he has experience that very few have. He was CG of CentCom, USF-I, and MNF-I, so he has experience leading large multi-branch commands. I don't think you can really get a better resume. Good pick.

[LOL BRIELUS]

good pick. i am hearing he is highly respected. no qualms with putting a former uniform guy in that position. I don't necessarily think that because he isn't a "civilian" in the traditional sense, it sounds like he has an open mind and is thoughtful, and the civilian component is usually balanced out with all the career DOD civilians that end up in all the assistant secretary positions.

[Methais]

Hell no I don't believe she was the best pick and I strongly agree she was given that role because Biden felt he needed to placate the black community. Had he of held out, brought a more qualified VP and correctly named Kamala as his Attorney General, he'd have still won and had a stronger administration.

Placate the black community by picking someone who unjustly imprisoned tons of innocent black dudes, withheld evidence that would have gotten a black guy off of death row, etc.?

I wonder how dumb democrats think black people are these days. I mean voters in general are pretty stupid, but still.

[~Rocktar~]

The General is well qualified in addition to being a person of color and has recent combat experience that puts him in touch. I personally cringe whenever race is a factor in appointments, but as this gentleman is qualified I would support his nomination.

The Senate may have other ideas given a quote I found of his at a prior confirmation hearing; "I thought we would never get anywhere in the Army unless a soldier was secretary of war.” But he added, “As I grew a little older and served through some of our military history, particularly the Philippine insurrection, I came to the fixed conclusion that he should never be a soldier.”

Also, I may disdain illegitimate military actions or occupations , but I respect our veteran's service and sacrifice. I doubt you're convinced, but that's life.

If you feel "being a person of color" is a qualification then you are a racist.

[~Rocktar~]

Placate the black community by picking someone who unjustly imprisoned tons of innocent black dudes, withheld evidence that would have gotten a black guy off of death row, etc.?

I wonder how dumb democrats think black people are these days. I mean voters in general are pretty stupid, but still.

They know that many are dumb enough to still vote Democrat.

[Seran]

If you feel "being a person of color" is a qualification then you are a racist.

You read one sentence, then disregarded the rest of the post; well done, you are an idiot. I said I cringe when race is a factor, ie, I don't believe it's a valid criterium. It however placates a lot of people, which Biden feels will abandon him if he doesn't bring affirmative action to his Cabinet.

[~Rocktar~]

You read one sentence, then disregarded the rest of the post; well done, you are an idiot. I said I cringe when race is a factor, ie, I don't believe it's a valid criterium. It however placates a lot of people, which Biden feels will abandon him if he doesn't bring affirmative action to his Cabinet.

You fucking moron, you and most Leftist are glaring racists. If one good thing has come out of this election it is that all you closest, arrogant, egotistical, condescending racists have come out to show yourself. It doesn't matter what other qualifications you cite, if you think that race is a qualification then you are a racist and no one cares what you believe you said, I read what you said and your statement is racist. No backpeddling, there was no cringe bullshit, you flat out said it without reservation until I called you on it, time you own it shitbag.

You are a racist.

[Blazar]

You fucking moron, you and most Leftist are glaring racists. If one good thing has come out of this election it is that all you closest, arrogant, egotistical, condescending racists have come out to show yourself. It doesn't matter what other qualifications you cite, if you think that race is a qualification then you are a racist and no one cares what you believe you said, I read what you said and your statement is racist. No backpeddling, there was no cringe bullshit, you flat out said it without reservation until I called you on it, time you own it shitbag.

You are a racist.

Technically and literally, your opinion of what a racist is is very, very wrong.

rac·ist

prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

Aiming to help minorities who have been historically oppressed is not racist, as it is not detrimental to them and racism is definitely tied to negative actions based on skin color... you know... like slavery, segregation, calling everyone from a country murders and rapists, you know, that stuff. I don't personally condone giving extra consideration and think everyone should be judged based on their actions and nothing else, but that doesn't mean you can just ignore the disadvantages people of color have faced in this nation for so long. Especially when racism is still present today and people like you run amuck. The fact that you don't realize this explains a lot about you, and why you don't realize you're a racist and instead try to paint everyone with your brush. Projection's a bitch, and only keeps you from seeing the truth about yourself. But you do you bud, one day I hope we'll collectively be smarter and bigots like you won't exist any more. Until then, bigot that shit up ya racist fuck.

[Seran]

You fucking moron, you and most Leftist are glaring racists. If one good thing has come out of this election it is that all you closest, arrogant, egotistical, condescending racists have come out to show yourself. It doesn't matter what other qualifications you cite, if you think that race is a qualification then you are a racist and no one cares what you believe you said, I read what you said and your statement is racist. No backpeddling, there was no cringe bullshit, you flat out said it without reservation until I called you on it, time you own it shitbag.

You are a racist.

You're wrong, end of story.

[~Rocktar~]

Technically and literally, your opinion of what a racist is is very, very wrong.

rac·ist

prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

Aiming to help minorities who have been historically oppressed is not racist, as it is not detrimental to them and racism is definitely tied to negative actions based on skin color... you know... like slavery, segregation, calling everyone from a country murders and rapists, you know, that stuff. I don't personally condone giving extra consideration and think everyone should be judged based on their actions and nothing else, but that doesn't mean you can just ignore the disadvantages people of color have faced in this nation for so long. Especially when racism is still present today and people like you run amuck. The fact that you don't realize this explains a lot about you, and why you don't realize you're a racist and instead try to paint everyone with your brush. Projection's a bitch, and only keeps you from seeing the truth about yourself. But you do you bud, one day I hope we'll collectively be smarter and bigots like you won't exist any more. Until then, bigot that shit up ya racist fuck.

Awwww, look at you, white knighting for your racist buddy. You are retarded no matter how much you can cut and paste. Leftists are racists no matter how you want to cut it.

[~Rocktar~]

You're wrong, end of story.

You are a racist. Period.

[Methais]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HakVqlP4qM

Holy shit her laugh is only like .0000001% less fingernails on a chalkboard than Hillary's.

[Methais]

You consitantly claim democrstic leaders are chosen for the people. I know thats how it works in the republican party but in the democratic party we have a primary and vote for which candidate appeals to the majority. Biden won the primary and then the presidency because the majority of people voted for him. Not through some conspiratorial installment by a shadow board of the DNC.

Since we're on the subject I'll also mention that democratic issues like affordable health care, decent wages, civil rights for everyone, clean energy, clean air and water, these are issues the majority of Americans want not some shadow cabal of evil puppetmasters. Thats what the rich are trying to convince you of because they know there are more of us than there are of them and if we realized that we would make them give up their rule over us.

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[Methais]

You know, I get that there are people who yearn to be at the top. They are given the carrot and the stick to think that one day they too will have all the money and power which keeps the cycle going. Those with the money and power count on this "American Dream" to keep others obedient and working for them so they can stay in power. Throw off the shackles of oppression brother!

You voted for a rich old racist white guy. Your post and your virtue signaling are invalid.