View Full Version : What Leftists really want
~Rocktar~
12-21-2019, 01:04 AM
Disclaimer: I lived in Virginia 20 years ago and even then around DC and in Richmond they were covered up with Leftist shitbags.
So now, those places have grown in population enough, they have managed to win a Leftist Democrat majority in the state house and have their black face loving Leftist Governor as well as AG and so on. So now, what are they pushing, virtual complete ban of all firearms, firing/banning police and other public employees for striking or refusing to implement the unconstitutional laws, laws so vague that even if you don't own a firearm but own a part of one that you would be a felon and so on. Make no mistake these are insane and unconstitutional laws. I don't know if they are trying to push this insane agenda to try and get people to accept lesser and equally unconstitutional laws as a compromise, if they are just stupid enough to think this is ok and how they want to proceed or if they are trying to provoke a hot civil war. This is the face of the Democrat party today and all these laws have one, singular and sinister purpose. To disarm the people and remove their ability to resist tyranny.
These laws are coming everywhere as soon as they can push them. This is how you kill the Republic, this is how you enslave a nation and make no mistake, this is going to spread, both for and against.
We are in a cold civil war now, fighting for the soul of America. This is how you get a hot civil war.
This is a video talking about the laws they want to pass, reading the text of the laws and going over the points one at a time.
https://www.facebook.com/344730025561939/videos/712092305946362/
Risen
12-21-2019, 02:09 AM
I was watching H.R. 1158. I knew CA would be all over this type of activity, but VA? Pathetic.
Orthin
12-21-2019, 05:03 PM
It is pretty crazy right now, especially with the NRA in Fairfax I never want thought I would see such a drastic shift in policies. As someone who wants to own a gun in VA I’m :(.
Tgo01
12-21-2019, 11:00 PM
Doesn’t Warriorbird live in VA? I wonder how he feels about this since he’s a Democrat who always gave Democrats shit for trying to restrict gun rights. I’m guessing he still “votes blue no matter who!”
~Rocktar~
12-21-2019, 11:07 PM
Doesn’t Warriorbird live in VA? I wonder how he feels about this since he’s a Democrat who always gave Democrats shit for trying to restrict gun rights. I’m guessing he still “votes blue no matter who!”
Probably true.
Parkbandit
12-22-2019, 09:53 AM
It is pretty crazy right now, especially with the NRA in Fairfax I never want thought I would see such a drastic shift in policies. As someone who wants to own a gun in VA I’m :(.
Good luck making it Constitutional. It'll be challenged all the way to the SCOTUS.. then it will fail.
We are in a cold civil war now, fighting for the soul of America. This is how you get a hot civil war.
This is some bullshit. No one is in a cold civil war except you hard core extremist second amendment prepper lunatics waiting for the chance to start your hot civil war. People wanting common sense gun control are not provoking shit. Its YOUR excuse to break out the armory and start murdering your fellow Americans. Over what? King George died a long time ago. Its not the frontier or the wild west.
Grow the fuck up and act like a responsible adult and help keep our people safe with more common sense gun laws.
Parkbandit
12-22-2019, 11:37 AM
This is some bullshit. No one is in a cold civil war except you hard core extremist second amendment prepper lunatics waiting for the chance to start your hot civil war. People wanting common sense gun control are not provoking shit. Its YOUR excuse to break out the armory and start murdering your fellow Americans. Over what? King George died a long time ago. Its not the frontier or the wild west.
Grow the fuck up and act like a responsible adult and help keep our people safe with more common sense gun laws.
The "common sense gun laws" you are talking about is widespread confiscation.
That's not common sense. Like at all.
And it's certainly not Constitutional.
Add "common sense" to topics you should avoid.. and certainly not comment about. It makes you look even dumber than normal.. and you don't need anymore of those moments.
Thanks.
Neveragain
12-22-2019, 01:37 PM
The "common sense gun laws" you are talking about is widespread confiscation.
That's not common sense. Like at all.
And it's certainly not Constitutional.
Add "common sense" to topics you should avoid.. and certainly not comment about. It makes you look even dumber than normal.. and you don't need anymore of those moments.
Thanks.
There must be some irony found in that they want to use people with guns, to confiscate guns from people.
Alt-left: Police are evil racist pigs!
also the alt-left: We want the evil racist pigs to confiscate peoples guns.
Neveragain
12-22-2019, 01:38 PM
This is some bullshit. No one is in a cold civil war except you hard core extremist second amendment prepper lunatics waiting for the chance to start your hot civil war. People wanting common sense gun control are not provoking shit. Its YOUR excuse to break out the armory and start murdering your fellow Americans. Over what? King George died a long time ago. Its not the frontier or the wild west.
Grow the fuck up and act like a responsible adult and help keep our people safe with more common sense gun laws.
Kill more babies!
Jeril
12-22-2019, 02:23 PM
This is some bullshit. No one is in a cold civil war except you hard core extremist second amendment prepper lunatics waiting for the chance to start your hot civil war. People wanting common sense gun control are not provoking shit. Its YOUR excuse to break out the armory and start murdering your fellow Americans. Over what? King George died a long time ago. Its not the frontier or the wild west.
Grow the fuck up and act like a responsible adult and help keep our people safe with more common sense gun laws.
What would you consider common sense gun laws?
Suppa Hobbit Mage
12-22-2019, 02:30 PM
What would you consider common sense gun laws?
Realize you are asking a pedophile for advice on how to make American's more vulnerable...
What would you consider common sense gun laws?
Universal background checks, training and testing, license, registration, and insurance. Obviously these will not prevent EVERY bad person out there on either side, buyers or sellers, but it will certainly crack down on them and help prevent gun-related death. Its responsible and sensible.
Tgo01
12-22-2019, 04:26 PM
Universal background checks, training and testing, license, registration, and insurance. Obviously these will not prevent EVERY bad person out there on either side, buyers or sellers, but it will certainly crack down on them and help prevent gun-related death. Its responsible and sensible.
How does license, registration, and especially insurance prevent bad guys from getting guns? They don’t, they are just ways Democrats have dreamed up to prevent law abiding citizen from affording guns.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
12-22-2019, 04:32 PM
You are arguing with a pedophile who only wants to make at risk children more at risk where their parents can't smoke him climbing in the window at night.
~Rocktar~
12-22-2019, 06:34 PM
https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/759112441209378/
You know who else thought there would be a civil war in America over gun control? Your boy who shot up unarmed people in a house of worship on their day of prayer in New Zealand.
Neveragain
12-22-2019, 07:24 PM
You know who else thought there would be a civil war in America over gun control? Your boy who shot up unarmed people in a house of worship on their day of prayer in New Zealand.
Oddly enough, those people worshiping also flew jet airliners into the world trade center. I'm pretty sure that was already illegal, obviously we need to ban the Quran.
Neveragain
12-22-2019, 07:28 PM
You know who else thought there would be a civil war in America over gun control? Your boy who shot up unarmed people in a house of worship on their day of prayer in New Zealand.
So, you want to send the racist evil police to take away peoples guns?
I'm pretty sure that was one of the reasons for the 2nd amendment, to stop evil racist fascists from taking over our nation.
Something tells me the evil racist police are going to tell you to fuck off.
Oddly enough, those people worshiping also flew jet airliners into the world trade center. I'm pretty sure that was already illegal, obviously we need to ban the Quran.
Extremists flew those planes. Tremendous difference. Extremists come in all colors and religions. I can't believe I actually have to correct you on that. Thank god you aren't in charge of anything important.
So, you want to send the racist evil police to take away peoples guns?
I'm pretty sure that was one of the reasons for the 2nd amendment, to stop evil racist fascists from taking over our nation.
Something tells me the evil racist police are going to tell you to fuck off.
No one is talking about taking away anyone's guns. At least I'm not. At least not the majority at the moment. You may have an extreme case here or there, and its a lofty dream to want to ban all guns forever, but its not the rule you and other over exaggerating cry babies who want to start an armed conflict over it are trying to make it out to be.
Neveragain
12-22-2019, 07:56 PM
Extremists flew those planes. Tremendous difference. Extremists come in all colors and religions. I can't believe I actually have to correct you on that. Thank god you aren't in charge of anything important.
Obviously the Quran made those people fly the planes into the world trade center, we must ban the Quran. Think about the child...............strike that, you probably shouldn't be thinking about children.
Neveragain
12-22-2019, 07:57 PM
Extremists flew those planes. Tremendous difference. Extremists come in all colors and religions. I can't believe I actually have to correct you on that. Thank god you aren't in charge of anything important.
No one is talking about taking away anyone's guns. At least I'm not. At least not the majority at the moment. You may have an extreme case here or there, and its a lofty dream to want to ban all guns forever, but its not the rule you and other over exaggerating cry babies who want to start an armed conflict over it are trying to make it out to be.
I don't even own a gun.
You want to ban guns, you just have to lie about it.
Oddly enough, those people worshiping also flew jet airliners into the world trade center. I'm pretty sure that was already illegal, obviously we need to ban the Quran.
Not to mention... you are a highly fucked up individual if you are somehow saying those unarmed people in New Zealand deserved to get gunned down in their house of prayer on their day of worship.
Tgo01
12-22-2019, 10:21 PM
So, you want to send the racist evil police to take away peoples guns?
This is without a doubt the most absurd thing about all of those.
According to the left the police are already racist thugs who make a sport out of hunting down and murdering unarmed, innocent black folk. What the fuck do they think is going to happen when the police knock on the door of a black person to confiscate their now illegal fully-semi automatic assault weapon with a built in rocket launcher?
But I guess Democrats are so stupid (or they think their voters are so stupid) as to think no black person owns a gun?
Wrathbringer
12-22-2019, 11:08 PM
Not to mention... you are a highly fucked up individual if you are somehow saying those unarmed people in New Zealand deserved to get gunned down in their house of prayer on their day of worship.
You deserve to get mowed down by sharts from a thousand asses.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
12-22-2019, 11:25 PM
You know who else thought there would be a civil war in America over gun control?
I can't wait for the day when faggots like you come to my door to take my guns. Short dick pedophiles will be extremely rare on that day, don't you think? Because I think faggots like you won't ever actually try to come and take my guns, will you backrash? You are a faggot who hides in your home from people with testosterone, while you try and prey on little kids, like a pedophile.
Parkbandit
12-23-2019, 10:48 AM
Not to mention... you are a highly fucked up individual if you are somehow saying those unarmed people in New Zealand deserved to get gunned down in their house of prayer on their day of worship.
The only one that has literally said that here... is you.
Neveragain
12-23-2019, 11:15 AM
This is without a doubt the most absurd thing about all of those.
According to the left the police are already racist thugs who make a sport out of hunting down and murdering unarmed, innocent black folk. What the fuck do they think is going to happen when the police knock on the door of a black person to confiscate their now illegal fully-semi automatic assault weapon with a built in rocket launcher?
But I guess Democrats are so stupid (or they think their voters are so stupid) as to think no black person owns a gun?
I think it's a pretty well known fact that Democrats never wanted black americans to have access to firearms. I think they were worried about revenge for owning slaves.
https://ww2.kqed.org/forum/wp-content/uploads/sites/43/2019/11/HarrietwithGun-RESIZE-800x450.jpg
This image scares the shit out of them.
Neveragain
12-23-2019, 11:26 AM
Not to mention... you are a highly fucked up individual if you are somehow saying those unarmed people in New Zealand deserved to get gunned down in their house of prayer on their day of worship.
WASHINGTON – The FBI fielded more than 200,000 background checks on Black Friday gun purchases, continuing a steady surge this year following a series of mass shootings that have renewed calls for more restrictive gun laws.
In all, the bureau posted 202,465 checks Friday, an 11% increase from last year and falling just short of the single-day record: 203,086 in 2017.
While background checks, required for purchases at federally licensed firearm dealers, are not a measure of actual gun sales, the National Instant Criminal Background Check System is a way to gauge market demand. The number of firearms sold Friday is likely higher because multiple firearms can be included in one transaction by a single buyer.
Black Friday traditionally has been one of the busiest for FBI analysts, but this year's one-day number comes amid rising monthly volumes that are approaching the one-year record of 27.5 million in 2016.
Luckily, people are not buying into your sides bullshit. Most people understand that the police overwhelmingly show up after the crime has been committed.
We are not enemies but there are people who want us to be and they are very rich and persuasive.
Neveragain
12-23-2019, 01:00 PM
We are not enemies but there are people who want us to be and they are very rich and persuasive.
http://littlefun.org/uploads/51c25b3bc856114eb7000038_736.jpg
Ok, Trotsky.
Ok, Trotsky.
I would put this issue squarely on the shoulders of the gun lobby. It is in the interest of gun manufacturers to keep us fighting and arming up against any and all kinds of enemies imaginable. Its also in their interest to foster crime and war. Would they actively do that? Maybe its just "turn a blind eye" but it sure as hell isn't "lets save the kids".
Neveragain
12-23-2019, 01:26 PM
I would put this issue squarely on the shoulders of the gun lobby. It is in the interest of gun manufacturers to keep us fighting and arming up against any and all kinds of enemies imaginable. Its also in their interest to foster crime and war. Would they actively do that? Maybe its just "turn a blind eye" but it sure as hell isn't "lets save the kids".
The gun lobby....................................
I really don't want to hear "let's save the kids!" from people that support murdering kids. Besides, the "kill the kids" lobby has the blood of 862,320 children in the US in 2017 alone.
The gun lobby...................................
kutter
12-23-2019, 01:47 PM
Ok Back, you want gun control. Ok, then riddle me this, prior to 1984, as far back as records are kept in the US, the rate of 'mass' shootings was steady at 1 or 2 a year, except for 1970 which had three, then began a steady increase. Now, we are at a point in our society where at a per capita rate, the lowest percentage of households have guns in them in the history of our country, at least according to this study: https://www.norc.org/PDFs/GSS%20Reports/GSS_Trends%20in%20Gun%20Ownership_US_1972-2014.pdf
So if their numbers are valid, and just anecdotally I would suspect they are in the ballpark; why do mass shootings go up when the percentage of gun owners go down? From a statistics standpoint it makes no sense. It does however make sense when you think about the country in its totality and not in a bubble of firearms the left wants to look at. We have the most broken society in the history of our country, children living in single parent households, alcohol and drug addiction is rampant, people have stopped practicing religious faiths, parents abdicating their responsibilities of raising children. All of these things and more make it easier for someone to go off the rails and commit atrocities, either because they were never taught that it was wrong or because their psyche is now so broken they can not see it.
You want to talk about gun control, lets talk about the 800 pound gorilla in the room and talk about mental health issues first, then and only then can you begin to make a dent in what is ailing in this county.
The gun lobby has nothing to do with this, GUN OWNERSHIP IS DOWN! If it is the gun lobby they are doing a pretty crappy job.
Gelston
12-23-2019, 01:50 PM
Ok Back, you want gun control. Ok, then riddle me this, prior to 1984, as far back as records are kept in the US, the rate of 'mass' shootings was steady at 1 or 2 a year, except for 1970 which had three, then began a steady increase. Now, we are at a point in our society where at a per capita rate, the lowest percentage of households have guns in them in the history of our country, at least according to this study: https://www.norc.org/PDFs/GSS%20Reports/GSS_Trends%20in%20Gun%20Ownership_US_1972-2014.pdf
So if their numbers are valid, and just anecdotally I would suspect they are in the ballpark; why do mass shootings go up when the percentage of gun owners go down? From a statistics standpoint it makes no sense. It does however make sense when you think about the country in its totality and not in a bubble of firearms the left wants to look at. We have the most broken society in the history of our country, children living in single parent households, alcohol and drug addiction is rampant, people have stopped practicing religious faiths, parents abdicating their responsibilities of raising children. All of these things and more make it easier for someone to go off the rails and commit atrocities, either because they were never taught that it was wrong or because their psyche is now so broken they can not see it.
You want to talk about gun control, lets talk about the 800 pound gorilla in the room and talk about mental health issues first, then and only then can you begin to make a dent in what is ailing in this county.
The gun lobby has nothing to do with this, GUN OWNERSHIP IS DOWN! If it is the gun lobby they are doing a pretty crappy job.
Honestly, I think it was them changing what qualifies as a mass shooting. There is no strict interpretation of what qualifies as a mass shooting, so any outlet or research organization can make up whatever qualifiers they want. Is it 3 or more people shot? Sure. 3 or more people just in the area? Some do that. I think if you used 1 qualifier and went through every instance of a shooting in history in the US it would probably be the same per capita.
kutter
12-23-2019, 01:55 PM
The numbers I used where the FBI definition which is "four or more murdered during an event with no "cooling-off period". That does not count the shooter.
Parkbandit
12-23-2019, 02:02 PM
I would put this issue squarely on the shoulders of the gun lobby. It is in the interest of gun manufacturers to keep us fighting and arming up against any and all kinds of enemies imaginable. Its also in their interest to foster crime and war. Would they actively do that? Maybe its just "turn a blind eye" but it sure as hell isn't "lets save the kids".
Minus 10 Internet points for not mentioning NRA.
Mother Jones is not very happy with your stupidity at this point.
Also: Do you still own a handgun? Because remember that time you claimed you purchased one? If you don't.. where did it go? If you do.. what steps are you taking to give it to the police department?
Gelston
12-23-2019, 02:02 PM
The numbers I used where the FBI definition which is "four or more murdered during an event with no "cooling-off period". That does not count the shooter.
That is mass killing, they don't even define mass shooting.
Parkbandit
12-23-2019, 02:04 PM
Ok Back, you want gun control. Ok, then riddle me this, prior to 1984, as far back as records are kept in the US, the rate of 'mass' shootings was steady at 1 or 2 a year, except for 1970 which had three, then began a steady increase. Now, we are at a point in our society where at a per capita rate, the lowest percentage of households have guns in them in the history of our country, at least according to this study: https://www.norc.org/PDFs/GSS%20Reports/GSS_Trends%20in%20Gun%20Ownership_US_1972-2014.pdf
So if their numbers are valid, and just anecdotally I would suspect they are in the ballpark; why do mass shootings go up when the percentage of gun owners go down? From a statistics standpoint it makes no sense. It does however make sense when you think about the country in its totality and not in a bubble of firearms the left wants to look at. We have the most broken society in the history of our country, children living in single parent households, alcohol and drug addiction is rampant, people have stopped practicing religious faiths, parents abdicating their responsibilities of raising children. All of these things and more make it easier for someone to go off the rails and commit atrocities, either because they were never taught that it was wrong or because their psyche is now so broken they can not see it.
You want to talk about gun control, lets talk about the 800 pound gorilla in the room and talk about mental health issues first, then and only then can you begin to make a dent in what is ailing in this county.
The gun lobby has nothing to do with this, GUN OWNERSHIP IS DOWN! If it is the gun lobby they are doing a pretty crappy job.
1) There are way too many words for his tiny brain to read.
2) There are way too many big words for his tiny brain to read.
3) You are using words.. and not pictures. You know he doesn't learn by this method.
4) Just go to Motherjones.com or CNN.com and you will find out what he "thinks" about gun control.
Methais
12-23-2019, 02:06 PM
Extremists flew those planes. Tremendous difference. Extremists come in all colors and religions. I can't believe I actually have to correct you on that. Thank god you aren't in charge of anything important
Thank god you aren’t in charge of anything at all. Not even dishes or bussing.
Methais
12-23-2019, 02:08 PM
You deserve to get mowed down by sharts from a thousand asses.
:lol:
Ok Back, you want gun control. Ok, then riddle me this, prior to 1984, as far back as records are kept in the US, the rate of 'mass' shootings was steady at 1 or 2 a year, except for 1970 which had three, then began a steady increase. Now, we are at a point in our society where at a per capita rate, the lowest percentage of households have guns in them in the history of our country, at least according to this study: https://www.norc.org/PDFs/GSS%20Reports/GSS_Trends%20in%20Gun%20Ownership_US_1972-2014.pdf
So if their numbers are valid, and just anecdotally I would suspect they are in the ballpark; why do mass shootings go up when the percentage of gun owners go down? From a statistics standpoint it makes no sense. It does however make sense when you think about the country in its totality and not in a bubble of firearms the left wants to look at. We have the most broken society in the history of our country, children living in single parent households, alcohol and drug addiction is rampant, people have stopped practicing religious faiths, parents abdicating their responsibilities of raising children. All of these things and more make it easier for someone to go off the rails and commit atrocities, either because they were never taught that it was wrong or because their psyche is now so broken they can not see it.
You want to talk about gun control, lets talk about the 800 pound gorilla in the room and talk about mental health issues first, then and only then can you begin to make a dent in what is ailing in this county.
The gun lobby has nothing to do with this, GUN OWNERSHIP IS DOWN! If it is the gun lobby they are doing a pretty crappy job.
Happy to have this conversation when I get the time. Maybe I do parrot some tropes, but the motivation is purely out of genuine concern for my fellow citizens, not some sinister political power grab.
For now though I was just responding to the batshit crazy OP who wants to start a civil war because good people of this country just want common sense gun laws.
Neveragain
12-23-2019, 04:46 PM
Happy to have this conversation when I get the time. Maybe I do parrot some tropes, but the motivation is purely out of genuine concern for my fellow citizens, not some sinister political power grab.
For now though I was just responding to the batshit crazy OP who wants to start a civil war because good people of this country just want common sense gun laws.
The OP said nothing aboutwantinga civil war. The OP is concerned, among millions of other americans, that gun confiscation will break out into a civil war.
You're the only one here that is being irrational.
Where were the police to stop these mass shootings?
Parkbandit
12-23-2019, 06:19 PM
Happy to have this conversation when I get the time. Maybe I do parrot some tropes, but the motivation is purely out of genuine concern for my fellow citizens, not some sinister political power grab.
For now though I was just responding to the batshit crazy OP who wants to start a civil war because good people of this country just want common sense gun laws.
https://media3.giphy.com/media/ESNF24bQCAMw0/giphy.gif
Also.. you said "common sense" again. Stop.
Keller
12-23-2019, 07:12 PM
I'm surprised Methais hasn't said "a good pegging" yet.
Slippin'.
Wrathbringer
12-23-2019, 07:39 PM
:lol:
This is correct.
Tgo01
12-23-2019, 10:15 PM
I'm surprised Methais hasn't said "a good pegging" yet.
Slippin'.
You angry that more white people aren't dying to hurricanes?
~Rocktar~
12-24-2019, 12:07 AM
An interesting article on gun deaths.
tldr version, guns aren't the issue, there is a cultural factor more than gun availability. Also, poor black people murder each other, poor white people commit suicide.
https://medium.com/handwaving-freakoutery/geographic-evidence-that-gun-deaths-are-cultural-277cb90fa06d
Keller
12-24-2019, 12:16 AM
You angry that more white people aren't dying to hurricanes?
Out of context or even in context that is a very dumb question.
With all due respect I think you should either lay off the booze or maybe seek therapy.
<3 Keller
Tgo01
12-24-2019, 12:31 AM
Out of context or even in context that is a very dumb question.
Good point. We all know the answer, I didn't need to state it in the form of a question.
Keller
12-24-2019, 12:34 AM
It was a rhetorical question boo.
Don’t sweat it.
Tgo01
12-24-2019, 12:41 AM
It was a rhetorical question boo.
Don’t sweat it.
Look at you using big words. Good for you.
Keller
12-24-2019, 12:47 AM
Look at you using big words. Good for you.
thanks!
Methais
12-24-2019, 11:15 AM
Ok Back, you want gun control. Ok, then riddle me this, prior to 1984, as far back as records are kept in the US, the rate of 'mass' shootings was steady at 1 or 2 a year, except for 1970 which had three, then began a steady increase. Now, we are at a point in our society where at a per capita rate, the lowest percentage of households have guns in them in the history of our country, at least according to this study: https://www.norc.org/PDFs/GSS%20Reports/GSS_Trends%20in%20Gun%20Ownership_US_1972-2014.pdf
So if their numbers are valid, and just anecdotally I would suspect they are in the ballpark; why do mass shootings go up when the percentage of gun owners go down? From a statistics standpoint it makes no sense. It does however make sense when you think about the country in its totality and not in a bubble of firearms the left wants to look at. We have the most broken society in the history of our country, children living in single parent households, alcohol and drug addiction is rampant, people have stopped practicing religious faiths, parents abdicating their responsibilities of raising children. All of these things and more make it easier for someone to go off the rails and commit atrocities, either because they were never taught that it was wrong or because their psyche is now so broken they can not see it.
You want to talk about gun control, lets talk about the 800 pound gorilla in the room and talk about mental health issues first, then and only then can you begin to make a dent in what is ailing in this county.
The gun lobby has nothing to do with this, GUN OWNERSHIP IS DOWN! If it is the gun lobby they are doing a pretty crappy job.
One thing that keeps being ignored is social media. It’s cancerous as fuck and I have little doubt if someone’s already suffering from some sort of mental illness, with the amount of bullshit and propaganda flowing in every direction every day on social media plus every retard in the world having their own personal global soapbox to spread their stupidity with, I could see that easily pushing some people over the edge, especially if they’re already not playing with a full deck.
Or maybe it’s just pure coincidence that mass shootings seem to have skyrocketed since social media became mainstream.
Methais
12-24-2019, 11:22 AM
Happy to have this conversation when I get the time. Maybe I do parrot some tropes, but the motivation is purely out of genuine concern for my fellow citizens, not some sinister political power grab.
For now though I was just responding to the batshit crazy OP who wants to start a civil war because good people of this country just want common sense gun laws.
When was the last time you made a post without including media buzzwords like “common sense gun control?”
Maybe I do parrot some tropes
https://media2.giphy.com/media/10uct1aSFT7QiY/giphy.gif
Well yeah, like in almost every post you make. I guess the media stopped using the word “binary” though, because Back stopped using it too. Such a shame, he was so proud of his newly learned word too. :(
Methais
12-24-2019, 11:24 AM
I'm surprised Methais hasn't said "a good pegging" yet.
Slippin'.
That’s an interesting way to tell us that you received a good pegging last night.
Next time just come out and say it. No need to be subtle.
Curious though, is it easier to sniff your own farts after a good pegging? Please tell us about your experience, as you’ve made it clear that you’re into both.
Methais
12-24-2019, 11:29 AM
Out of context or even in context that is a very dumb question.
With all due respect I think you should either lay off the booze or maybe seek therapy.
<3 Keller
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drauz
12-24-2019, 11:41 AM
Universal background checks, training and testing, license, registration, and insurance. Obviously these will not prevent EVERY bad person out there on either side, buyers or sellers, but it will certainly crack down on them and help prevent gun-related death. Its responsible and sensible.
How would you pass this in a legal manner? Do you even understand everything that would have to happen to make your "common sense" gun laws happen?
Gelston
12-24-2019, 11:57 AM
How would you pass this in a legal manner? Do you even understand everything that would have to happen to make your "common sense" gun laws happen?
Registration would be ruled to be the same as requiring registration to vote, so I think that is possible. Insurance would be ruled as a tax, like ObamaCare, so that could pass. Background checks already happen. Training and testing is generally need in most states to concealed carry, but to just outright own a firearm that feels a bit unconstitutional, as when the Democrats required literacy tests prior to voting to disenfranchise African Americans.
I think you are forgetting that the right to bear arms is a Constitutional Right. You are trying to compare it to driving a car(motor vehicle deaths still outnumber firearm deaths btw), but driving a car is no where in the Constitution.
Risen
12-24-2019, 12:44 PM
And if a car were a constitutional right, would that mean all the 'common sense' controls around owning and driving a car could suddenly vanish as unnecessary?
Gun control issues suck. Mental health issues suck. All media (social, film, print) can influence this, but there is money only in a certain slice of it. There's no good answer. Even the standard conservative answer of concealed carry for self protection and protection of family doesn't improve the scenario enough, too small a number to impact. Training everyone and leveling the playing field has a certain Darwinian sense of righteousness and justice, though. Shoot 'em all, and let God sort 'em out.
Astray
12-24-2019, 01:29 PM
Interesting read (https://medium.com/handwaving-freakoutery/geographic-evidence-that-gun-deaths-are-cultural-277cb90fa06d).
Neveragain
12-24-2019, 02:14 PM
And if a car were a constitutional right, would that mean all the 'common sense' controls around owning and driving a car could suddenly vanish as unnecessary?
Gun control issues suck. Mental health issues suck. All media (social, film, print) can influence this, but there is money only in a certain slice of it. There's no good answer. Even the standard conservative answer of concealed carry for self protection and protection of family doesn't improve the scenario enough, too small a number to impact. Training everyone and leveling the playing field has a certain Darwinian sense of righteousness and justice, though. Shoot 'em all, and let God sort 'em out.
If the starter wasn't working on your car would you replace the water pump to fix it?
drauz
12-24-2019, 02:37 PM
And if a car were a constitutional right, would that mean all the 'common sense' controls around owning and driving a car could suddenly vanish as unnecessary?
Gun control issues suck. Mental health issues suck. All media (social, film, print) can influence this, but there is money only in a certain slice of it. There's no good answer. Even the standard conservative answer of concealed carry for self protection and protection of family doesn't improve the scenario enough, too small a number to impact. Training everyone and leveling the playing field has a certain Darwinian sense of righteousness and justice, though. Shoot 'em all, and let God sort 'em out.
The gun control measures they are trying to put into law are dumb. To compare them to cars it would be like they made racing seats and steering wheels, spoilers, and pin stripes illegal.
Risen
12-24-2019, 02:48 PM
If the starter wasn't working on your car would you replace the water pump to fix it?
I'm not a gun control advocate, so you're asking me a question which I wouldn't support anyway. But your analogy has nothing to do with the discussion, unless you're trying to tie ammunition to gas.
Risen
12-24-2019, 02:53 PM
To compare them to cars it would be like they made racing seats and steering wheels, spoilers, and pin stripes illegal.
For the specific approach VA democratic leadership seems hell-bent on taking I agree. Everything about parts of the tool they want to control, and little about the idiot that misused those parts and the tool they want to control. While we're at it, how long before the bump-stock measure is reversed? Hell, we're talking about reversing wind-mills, so why not.
Neveragain
12-24-2019, 03:08 PM
I'm not a gun control advocate, so you're asking me a question which I wouldn't support anyway. But your analogy has nothing to do with the discussion, unless you're trying to tie ammunition to gas.
I won't use an analogy then. If this is a social issue, how does gun control fix it?
Risen
12-24-2019, 03:21 PM
I won't use an analogy then. If this is a social issue, how does gun control fix it?
Great question and I agree, likely. Gun control doesn't fix violent anti-social tendencies. The tool chosen is a question of skill and convenience and not intent. I'm not happy that everything is a social issue, though.
Great question and I agree, likely. Gun control doesn't fix violent anti-social tendencies. The tool chosen is a question of skill and convenience and not intent. I'm not happy that everything is a social issue, though.
Taking convenience out of the equation is one way to deal with it.
What causes someone to decide to kill someone? No idea how to prevent that. Some things I've read talk about equalizing economic and living conditions for all members of society is one way. In any case, tough nut to crack on that one. In the meantime... remove access.
Methais
12-24-2019, 03:40 PM
I won't use an analogy then. If this is a social issue, how does gun control fix it?
Just get rid of people.
Risen
12-24-2019, 03:46 PM
Taking convenience out of the equation is one way to deal with it.
No, it just masks the problem, making it harder to detect and find a solution for. Don't support masking the problem for "society's own convenience". That is a cop-out position.
Jeril
12-24-2019, 03:59 PM
Taking convenience out of the equation is one way to deal with it.
What causes someone to decide to kill someone? No idea how to prevent that. Some things I've read talk about equalizing economic and living conditions for all members of society is one way. In any case, tough nut to crack on that one. In the meantime... remove access.
Except removing "access" just shifts which tools are used. And in the case of removing guns, you are leaving many innocent people vulnerable for a feel good measure. How does that make any sense? And it isn't so much about equalizing economic and living conditions as it is getting rid of poverty. And the biggest thing stopping that is people's refusal to invest their taxes in bettering our educational system.
Tgo01
12-24-2019, 04:16 PM
In the meantime... remove access.
Remove access of the ability for people to kill one another? STFU.
Gelston
12-24-2019, 05:01 PM
Taking convenience out of the equation is one way to deal with it.
What causes someone to decide to kill someone? No idea how to prevent that. Some things I've read talk about equalizing economic and living conditions for all members of society is one way. In any case, tough nut to crack on that one. In the meantime... remove access.
Convenience? Have you ever purchased a fire arm?
Neveragain
12-24-2019, 08:10 PM
Taking convenience out of the equation is one way to deal with it.
What causes someone to decide to kill someone? No idea how to prevent that. Some things I've read talk about equalizing economic and living conditions for all members of society is one way. In any case, tough nut to crack on that one. In the meantime... remove access.
If equalizing living conditions were the answer that would mean that rich people have never murdered anyone.
You're dumb as fuck.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
12-24-2019, 08:51 PM
In other news, I was asked by two people recently if Backrash was a pedophile.
Just goes to show, my media initiative is taking affect. How you like that, Backrash, short dick pedophile?
Alfster
12-24-2019, 09:29 PM
Taking convenience out of the equation is one way to deal with it.
What causes someone to decide to kill someone? No idea how to prevent that. Some things I've read talk about equalizing economic and living conditions for all members of society is one way. In any case, tough nut to crack on that one. In the meantime... remove access.
Hey. Get fucked.
Astray
12-24-2019, 10:08 PM
In the meantime... remove access.
I swear to God you need a battery acid enema to remove your head from your ass.
kutter
12-25-2019, 07:36 AM
Ok, so just let me make sure that I understand back's rationale, a very small percentage of gun users violate the law so in an effort to curb gun violence we need to penalize everyone and limit gun purchases.
Hey, I have a thought where this policy might ACTUALLY WORK. A greater than small percentage of people entering or staying in this country illegally are violating the law. OK OK, technically ALL of them are violating the law, but I digress. So in a response to this we should stop any and all immigration, ya know so that we can lower crime and all that. Does that work for y'all?
Neveragain
12-25-2019, 08:16 AM
Hey. Get fucked.
I find it interesting that Back is using the same mindset as Hillary Clinton when she was calling poor black people super-predators to help push a crime bill that filled our prisons with low level drug offenders.
Never mind that these mass shootings are carried out by kids from middle class families.
Parkbandit
12-25-2019, 08:36 AM
Taking convenience out of the equation is one way to deal with it.
What causes someone to decide to kill someone? No idea how to prevent that. Some things I've read talk about equalizing economic and living conditions for all members of society is one way. In any case, tough nut to crack on that one. In the meantime... remove access.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ADr35Z4TvATIc/giphy.gif
You never told us whatever happened to the assault weapon you claimed you purchased.
Methais
12-25-2019, 06:22 PM
I find it interesting that Back is using the same mindset as Hillary Clinton when she was calling poor black people super-predators to help push a crime bill that filled our prisons with low level drug offenders.
Never mind that these mass shootings are carried out by kids from middle class families.
It's because Back is a huge racist with white savior delusions.
Tgo01
12-25-2019, 07:10 PM
So some Muslims in NYC decided to start up a Muslim Patrol to protect Muslims from the supposed rising violence Muslims face in the city.
What kind of "violence" are they protecting Muslims from? Well recently one teenage boy supposedly said something disrespectful to a Muslim woman, so this prompted one of these Muslim Patrol Officers to choke the boy while lecturing him. Yes because words are "violence" that requires physical violence in retaliation.
Oh but it gets better! Turns out that teenager is black and his father is a senior member in the local Bloods gang. A group of Bloods gang members confronted the "officer" outside of the Mosque where some words were exchanged until an actual NYPD officer showed up to break it up. The Bloods promised this wasn't over.
It's not.
A group of Bloods members kicked the shit out of a Muslim outside of the Mosque where this Muslim Patrol operates from, the Muslim was beat so bad he was sent to the hospital, specifically the Kingsbrook Jewish Medical Center.
The Muslim leader of the Mosque has instructed their members to arm themselves with guns in response to the threat from the Bloods gang members.
We have Muslims claiming they are being threatened by violence so they target a 16 year old black boy instead of the supposed white supremacists roaming the streets.
We have black gang members not getting along well with Muslims.
We have a Muslim having to go to the Kingsbrook Jewish Medical Center for medical treatment.
And best of all we have Muslims admitting they need guns to protect themselves because the police can't always be there to protect them from harm.
Just imagine when gang members are the only ones with guns. Just imagine it, Back. Can you imagine it yet?
Methais
12-25-2019, 09:21 PM
So some Muslims in NYC decided to start up a Muslim Patrol to protect Muslims from the supposed rising violence Muslims face in the city.
What kind of "violence" are they protecting Muslims from? Well recently one teenage boy supposedly said something disrespectful to a Muslim woman, so this prompted one of these Muslim Patrol Officers to choke the boy while lecturing him. Yes because words are "violence" that requires physical violence in retaliation.
Oh but it gets better! Turns out that teenager is black and his father is a senior member in the local Bloods gang. A group of Bloods gang members confronted the "officer" outside of the Mosque where some words were exchanged until an actual NYPD officer showed up to break it up. The Bloods promised this wasn't over.
It's not.
A group of Bloods members kicked the shit out of a Muslim outside of the Mosque where this Muslim Patrol operates from, the Muslim was beat so bad he was sent to the hospital, specifically the Kingsbrook Jewish Medical Center.
The Muslim leader of the Mosque has instructed their members to arm themselves with guns in response to the threat from the Bloods gang members.
We have Muslims claiming they are being threatened by violence so they target a 16 year old black boy instead of the supposed white supremacists roaming the streets.
We have black gang members not getting along well with Muslims.
We have a Muslim having to go to the Kingsbrook Jewish Medical Center for medical treatment.
And best of all we have Muslims admitting they need guns to protect themselves because the police can't always be there to protect them from harm.
Just imagine when gang members are the only ones with guns. Just imagine it, Back. Can you imagine it yet?
This is clearly an effect of white supremacy being by far the biggest and most important issue in the country. Right BacKKKlash?
Keller
12-26-2019, 03:57 PM
Learned Hand would be unable to find his reasonable person on the PC.
Gelston
12-26-2019, 03:58 PM
Learned Hand would be unable to find his reasonable person on the PC.
Can you kindly fuck off to wherever it is you go when you aren't gaying up the PC? Thanks.
Neveragain
12-26-2019, 04:02 PM
Can you kindly fuck off to wherever it is you go when you aren't gaying up the PC? Thanks.
Probably spends most their time wishing for the death of poor white people. Imagine being that upset about an election, yikes.
Parkbandit
12-26-2019, 04:16 PM
Can you kindly fuck off to wherever it is you go when you aren't gaying up the PC? Thanks.
That would be Facebook or Instagram, creeping on 13 year old daughters of people who have hurt his feelings in the past.
Keller
12-26-2019, 05:12 PM
Just a few more snowflakes and we might have a white Christmas after all!
Tgo01
12-26-2019, 05:16 PM
Just a few more snowflakes and we might have a white Christmas after all!
It's always amusing watching racists who cheered people dying trying to take the moral high ground.
Keller
12-26-2019, 05:17 PM
It’s a Christmas miracle! Look at it Sally, it’s so beautiful!
Tgo01
12-26-2019, 05:38 PM
It’s a Christmas miracle! Look at it Sally, it’s so beautiful!
If you're looking for someone to chat with on the PC who won't remind you of your racist ways there is always Back, he's such a tool and is so desperate for anyone to agree with him that he will look past anything.
There is also Some Rogue who also likes to say racist shit and has TDS worse than even you.
Maybe you three can make out together sometime or something.
Keller
12-26-2019, 05:46 PM
The thing is I’m flattered to be held in such low regard by most of you.
I appreciate all of your kind words.
Fortybox
12-26-2019, 06:24 PM
Probably spends most their time wishing for the death of poor white people. Imagine being that upset about an election, yikes.
Christmas 2020 is going to be awesome when people realize it will be one of 5 more Christmas’s with Trump.
Tgo01
12-26-2019, 06:33 PM
The thing is I’m flattered to be held in such low regard by most of you.
I appreciate all of your kind words.
Some people aspire to greatness. Some people aspire to help others less fortunate.
Keller aspires to be known as the asshole who wished death upon a group of people based on their skin color and who he assumes they voted for.
Whatever helps you get through life. I'm sure you go around telling everyone how you're a good person because you "resist" Trump too.
Keller
12-26-2019, 07:45 PM
While I generally support the public education system, sometimes I’m confronted with the reality that it failed many of you.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
12-26-2019, 08:14 PM
While I generally support the public education system, sometimes I’m confronted with the reality that it failed many of you.
You and Briarfox sound very much alike.
Fortybox
12-26-2019, 08:15 PM
You and Briarfox sound very much alike.
:lol:
Tgo01
12-26-2019, 08:30 PM
You and Briarfox sound very much alike.
What would the world be like without the liberal elite to tell us peons how stupid we are and how we deserve to die because we don't agree with them?
We need the liberal elite.
Keller
12-26-2019, 09:18 PM
Unvaccinated flat earthers. That is a summary of what the world would be without education.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
12-26-2019, 09:24 PM
That's presumptuous.
Tgo01
12-26-2019, 09:29 PM
Unvaccinated flat earthers. That is a summary of what the world would be without education.
Funny you read "liberal elite" and think "educated."
You really do sniff your own farts.
Fortybox
12-26-2019, 10:16 PM
Funny you read "liberal elite" and think "educated."
You really do sniff your own farts.
And tries to air lick them.
Wrathbringer
12-27-2019, 06:22 AM
Democrats. That is a summary of what the world would be without education.
Fixed.
Wrathbringer
12-27-2019, 06:24 AM
Can you kindly fuck off to wherever it is you go when you aren't gaying up the PC? Thanks.
This is correct.
Whew, strong feelings on this topic!
In previous posts I used the word "remove". In retrospect I think "restrict" is better. We do it with lots of things like controlled substances and anything that requires some amount of responsibility because there are a few people out there who fucked it up for the rest of us. Sorry, thats how it works.
My original position in this thread was to counter the notion that the left somehow desire some kind of civil war and are provoking it through gun laws. Thats a second amendment preppers meth-head pipe dream. I think regular folks just want more background checks and ways to keep the guns away from the bad people, not complete confiscation.
The whole "gun sanctuary" idea is absolutely absurd. Did you know the idea was inspired by "sanctuary cities"? I shit you not. And the NRA is directly tied to the whole confiscation scare. Frankly, if you and the people in your neighborhood want to open carry and I don't live there, have a blast.
Anyone can pick up a rifle or shotgun same day at Walmart. I think that needs to change.
Trump has advocated for changes himself. “I will be strongly pushing Comprehensive Background Checks with an emphasis on Mental Health. Raise age to 21 and end sale of Bump Stocks! Congress is in a mood to finally do something on this issue - I hope!” That is a tweet from the day after the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
12-27-2019, 05:39 PM
Fag
Tgo01
12-27-2019, 05:48 PM
Anyone can pick up a rifle or shotgun same day at Walmart. I think that needs to change.
Anyone? ANYONE?! STFU.
There was a reporter a couple months back who wanted to show "how easy" it is for someone to buy a gun from Walmart. They gave up proving how "easy" it was after 3 or 4 Walmarts wouldn't sell them a gun.
Again STFU.
By the way, Back, some school district in Texas just voted recently to start teaching little kids about anal and oral sex, don't suppose you had anything to do with that?
Anyone? ANYONE?! STFU.
There was a reporter a couple months back who wanted to show "how easy" it is for someone to buy a gun from Walmart. They gave up proving how "easy" it was after 3 or 4 Walmarts wouldn't sell them a gun.
Again STFU.
Jeezus, ok, not ANYONE, but it still remains that rifles and shotguns are easier to get than handguns.
No comment on Trump's tweet?
Tgo01
12-27-2019, 05:56 PM
Jeezus, ok, not ANYONE, but it still remains that rifles and shotguns are easier to get than handguns.
No comment on Trump's tweet?
No comment on the Bloods and Muslims getting into a gang war in NYC and the Mosque's leaders instructed the Muslims to arm themselves to protect themselves?
No comment on the Bloods and Muslims getting into a gang war in NYC and the Mosque's leaders instructed the Muslims to arm themselves to protect themselves?
Link?
Tgo01
12-27-2019, 06:09 PM
Link?
Don't play this dumb game, Back, it suits you a little TOO well.
Don't play this dumb game, Back, it suits you a little TOO well.
You are the one playing games trying to make up my position for me without me even knowing what the fuck you're talking about. Give me the link and I'll tell you my opinion.
Parkbandit
12-27-2019, 07:03 PM
Whew, strong feelings on this topic!
https://media.giphy.com/media/7zApYc8tI0fpsR4Rny/giphy.gif
In previous posts I used the word "remove". In retrospect I think "restrict" is better. We do it with lots of things like controlled substances and anything that requires some amount of responsibility because there are a few people out there who fucked it up for the rest of us. Sorry, thats how it works.
Typical liberal.. you posted your true feelings and when you faced.. backlash.. for your stupidity.. you decided to pull it back somewhat. Doesn't change what you really want to do though.. which is remove.
My original position in this thread was to counter the notion that the left somehow desire some kind of civil war and are provoking it through gun laws. Thats a second amendment preppers meth-head pipe dream. I think regular folks just want more background checks and ways to keep the guns away from the bad people, not complete confiscation.
No one is shocked that the soy latte drinking, scarf wearing, fancy liberal boys don't want a real war.
But.. given that we already have background checks.. tell us specifically what "more background checks" would be like in your fantasy world?
The whole "gun sanctuary" idea is absolutely absurd. Did you know the idea was inspired by "sanctuary cities"? I shit you not. And the NRA is directly tied to the whole confiscation scare. Frankly, if you and the people in your neighborhood want to open carry and I don't live there, have a blast.
But you have no problem with "sanctuary cities". Hilariously hypocritical of you.
Anyone can pick up a rifle or shotgun same day at Walmart. I think that needs to change.
This is 100% false. Would you like to actually look up the facts instead of just taking some random retard on Twitter's word for it?
Trump has advocated for changes himself. “I will be strongly pushing Comprehensive Background Checks with an emphasis on Mental Health. Raise age to 21 and end sale of Bump Stocks! Congress is in a mood to finally do something on this issue - I hope!” That is a tweet from the day after the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.
Problem is: Who determines good "mental health"? Like I would state that if you believe in the liberal agenda, you clearly are far too stupid to own a gun.
Methais
12-27-2019, 08:27 PM
The thing is I’m flattered to be held in such low regard by most of you.
I appreciate all of your kind words.
https://i.imgur.com/poQxTe3.jpg
Methais
12-27-2019, 08:34 PM
The whole "gun sanctuary" idea is absolutely absurd. Did you know the idea was inspired by "sanctuary cities"? I shit you not. And the NRA is directly tied to the whole confiscation scare. Frankly, if you and the people in your neighborhood want to open carry and I don't live there, have a blast.
Ignoring your blatant hypocrisy about sanctuary cities, which literally defend breaking the law, vs. Second Amendment sanctuaries which literally defend the Constitution, because you're really too retarded to converse with about it, let's skip to this part...
Frankly, if you and the people in your neighborhood want to open carry and I don't live there, have a blast.
lololololololololololololololol what the fuck are you gonna do if you do live there? Walk up to people and disarm them? Tell them something? Do anything at all but stand there like a little twat who's helpless without his keyboard?
Serious question btw.
Methais
12-27-2019, 08:36 PM
Jeezus, ok, not ANYONE, but it still remains that rifles and shotguns are easier to get than handguns.
No comment on Trump's tweet?
Solution: Make handguns easier to get. For equality.
Keller
12-28-2019, 10:13 PM
Is there a segment of the electorate Trump dominates more than uneducated white men?
Keller
12-28-2019, 10:14 PM
No. The answer is no.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
12-28-2019, 10:31 PM
You are trying too hard dude.
Tgo01
12-28-2019, 10:33 PM
Is there a segment of the electorate Trump dominates more than uneducated white men?
Is there a segment of the electorate Democrats dominate more than racist, sexist cretins who wish harm and death upon those with whom they disagree?
No. The answer is no.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
12-28-2019, 10:33 PM
I can’t wait til Trump gets re-elected. You and Backrash can have a pedo drum circle and yell at the sky together while cupping each other’s tiny testicles.
Keller
12-28-2019, 11:26 PM
Y’all are weirdos.
Keller
12-28-2019, 11:27 PM
I stated a fact and you got pretty weird about it.
I suggest some self reflection. Maybe a New Year’s resolution.
Problem is: Who determines good "mental health"?
The real question is whats up with you having another community members wifes ass as your avatar? I mean I get that you are a giant ass face and all. Is it some weird assertion of epeen dominance over him? Or a creepy trophy of some kind?
Parkbandit
12-29-2019, 08:53 AM
The real question is whats up with you having another community members wifes ass as your avatar? I mean I get that you are a giant ass face and all. Is it some weird assertion of epeen dominance over him? Or a creepy trophy of some kind?
Yes.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
12-29-2019, 09:04 AM
The real question is whats up with you having another community members wifes ass as your avatar? I mean I get that you are a giant ass face and all. Is it some weird assertion of epeen dominance over him? Or a creepy trophy of some kind?
admit it, you are just pissed off it isn’t some 12 year old ass you can beat your small dick over, amirite pedophile?
Yes.
:lol::lol::lol:
Strange way to make yourself feel like a big boy.
admit it, you are just pissed off it isn’t some 12 year old ass you can beat your small dick over, amirite pedophile?
What in the world are you so pissed about? Its just a message board. Amirite?
Parkbandit
12-30-2019, 08:23 AM
:lol::lol::lol:
Strange way to make yourself feel like a big boy.
No.
Methais
12-30-2019, 05:23 PM
The real question is whats up with you having another community members wifes ass as your avatar? I mean I get that you are a giant ass face and all. Is it some weird assertion of epeen dominance over him? Or a creepy trophy of some kind?
Since you know whose cheeks those are, then you should already know the answer to your own question and the story behind it.
Dumbass. Eat a bowl of herpes. From your own herpes dick.
Ashlander
12-30-2019, 09:55 PM
Dumbass. Eat a bowl of herpes. From your own herpes dick.
9515
Image may be bigger than actual dick.
Tgo01
12-31-2019, 12:17 AM
Looks like yet ANOTHER hate crime committed against a Jew in NYC happened last week. Someone in a group of about 8 black men threw something at him as he was walking down the street then as he continued walking with his back towards them 3 of the men followed him and attacked him from behind.
https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1211875153967296512?s=20
Back, when are you going to resist black supremacy? Or do you only care about Jews when you can use them as pawns to further your own agenda because you are worse than Satan himself?
~Rocktar~
01-05-2020, 08:13 PM
The Supreme Court’s Failure to Defend Heller Has Created The Situation in Virginia
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/the-supreme-courts-failure-to-defend-heller-has-created-the-situation-in-virginia/
~Rocktar~
01-19-2020, 12:37 PM
A nice commentary on what is going on in Virginia.
https://youtu.be/gPL1lNlLEW0
~Rocktar~
01-19-2020, 01:36 PM
https://www.facebook.com/Chase4Senate/videos/487694925122284/
Methais
01-20-2020, 08:59 AM
https://www.facebook.com/Chase4Senate/videos/487694925122284/
Thank god she told us that 11:00 is exactly one hour before noon or I would have had no idea when this was going to start.
Hopefully no neo-nazis murder anybody like they did in Charlottesville.
Neveragain
01-20-2020, 10:45 AM
Charlottesville?
:lol:
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-20-2020, 10:47 AM
It's not like you can expect him to get facts correct when he's triggered 24/7.
Methais
01-20-2020, 11:46 AM
Hopefully no neo-nazis murder anybody like they did in Charlottesville.
Shut up loser why don't you hop on a bus to Virginia and go virtue signal there for the day.
Oh right, you're only virtuous from behind your keyboard.
Dork.
Methais
01-20-2020, 03:55 PM
Hopefully no neo-nazis murder anybody like they did in Charlottesville.
Funny you say that...
Mother of activist who was run down and killed by a white supremacist at 2017 Charlottesville race rally says she is a gun owner and the Virginia Dem are going TOO FAR with their firearms restrictions
Susan Bro, mother of slain Charlottesville protester Heather Heyer, weighed in on gun control debate in Virginia
Bro said she grew up around guns and is a gun owner herself, and she believes some of the measures proposed by state Democrats are 'extreme'
Virginia Democrats are backing an assault weapons ban and bills limiting handgun purchases to once a month, among other legislation
Thousands of pro-gun activists gathered in Richmond Monday to voice their opposition to the proposed legislation
Bro called on people planning to resort to violence during the rally to stay away from the state capital
The mother of Heather Heyer, the activist who was run down and killed during the Charlottesville race rally in 2017, has revealed she is a long-time gun owner and believes Virginia Democrats are going too far their firearms restrictions.
Susan Bro spoke out as thousands of gun-rights activists - many carrying guns - rallied in Richmond, Virginia, on Monday to protest plans by the state’s Democratic leadership to pass sweeping gun-control legislation.
'I grew up with guns,' Bro told CNN on Monday. 'I believe in common sense gun measures, but not extreme measures. And I think that those need to be discussed. I think people need to be able to talk to their representatives.'
Bro noted that while she believes some of the gun restrictions under consideration are 'a bit extreme,' other parts of the legislation are sound.
Bro's daughter, 32-year-old paralegal Heather Heyer, was among hundreds demonstrating against white nationalists in Charlottesville in August 2017 when James Alex Fields Jr drove his car into the group, killing Heyer and injuring dozens of others.
Fields, an avowed white supremacist from Ohio, was sentenced to a life in prison in June 2019 after pleading guilty to federal hate crime charges.
Virginia Democrats are backing an assault weapons ban, along with bills limiting handgun purchases to once a month and background checks on gun purchases.
The new laws would also allow local authorities to ban guns in public buildings, parks and other areas.
A proposed 'red flag' bill would allow authorities to temporarily take guns away from anyone deemed to be dangerous to themselves or others.
On the eve of Monday's pro-gun rally in the Virginia state capital, Bro urged anyone planning to resort to violence to 'stay the hell away from Richmond,' as she told The Independent.
She also cautioned peaceful protesters seeking to come out and have their voices heard to be aware that there might be 'foolish people' in the crowd bent on stirring up hate.
As of Monday afternoon, there were no reports of violence or arrests during the rally in Richmond.
Authorities in Richmond were looking to avoid a repeat of the deadly violence that was seen in Charlottesville three years ago.
The size of the rally and the expected participation of white supremacists and fringe right-wing militia groups prompted Governor Ralph Northam to declare a state of emergency, but the event concluded without incident around noon.
The Richmond protesters, who were mostly white and male, came out in the thousands despite the chilly temperature to send a message to legislators, they said.
'The government doesn’t run us, we run the government,' said Kem Regik, a 20-year-old private security officer from northern Virginia who brought a white flag with a picture of a rifle captioned, 'Come and take it.'
The rally coincides with the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday, which is typically a chance for everyday citizens to use a day off work to lobby their legislators. However, the threat of violence largely kept other groups away from the Capitol, including gun control groups that hold an annual vigil for victims of gun violence.
What do you have to say about this, fuckface?
Ashlander
01-20-2020, 07:14 PM
Funny you say that...
Mother of activist who was run down and killed by a white supremacist at 2017 Charlottesville race rally says she is a gun owner and the Virginia Dem are going TOO FAR with their firearms restrictions
Susan Bro, mother of slain Charlottesville protester Heather Heyer, weighed in on gun control debate in Virginia
Bro said she grew up around guns and is a gun owner herself, and she believes some of the measures proposed by state Democrats are 'extreme'
Virginia Democrats are backing an assault weapons ban and bills limiting handgun purchases to once a month, among other legislation
Thousands of pro-gun activists gathered in Richmond Monday to voice their opposition to the proposed legislation
Bro called on people planning to resort to violence during the rally to stay away from the state capital
What do you have to say about this, fuckface?
I'm guessing at least two days before he says anything about it if he does at all.
Funny you say that... What do you have to say about this, fuckface?
Your intelligence is like your favorite porn. Gaping.
I have absolutely no issues whatsoever about what she said.
I grew up with guns,' Bro told CNN on Monday. 'I believe in common sense gun measures, but not extreme measures. And I think that those need to be discussed. I think people need to be able to talk to their representatives.'
Bro noted that while she believes some of the gun restrictions under consideration are 'a bit extreme,' other parts of the legislation are sound.
On the eve of Monday's pro-gun rally in the Virginia state capital, Bro urged anyone planning to resort to violence to 'stay the hell away from Richmond,' as she told The Independent.
I have no issues with anyone who opposes those laws if they do so peacefully and by voting to change things like we do in a democracy. I am happy those asshole nazis who were going there to spread their hate were busted. If you told me they were sent to Guantanamo I'd be happier.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-20-2020, 08:33 PM
If you told me they were sent to Guantanamo I'd be happier.
I'm fairly sure I can find your posts saying close Guantanamo. You are why people want guns and the 2nd amendment was written. So we can shoot you when you try to force your faggot opinions on us.
I'm fairly sure I can find your posts saying close Guantanamo. You are why people want guns and the 2nd amendment was written. So we can shoot you when you try to force your faggot opinions on us.
https://www.crunchposter.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/screening-or-scamming.png
~Rocktar~
01-20-2020, 09:49 PM
https://www.crunchposter.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/screening-or-scamming.png
I see your support of unconstitutional confiscation by circumventing due process is on display. Don't worry, no one cares enough to shoot you and they don't want Leftist shitbag on their bullets.
~Rocktar~
01-20-2020, 09:50 PM
A commentary on the protest
https://www.facebook.com/TuckerCarlsonTonight/videos/204511357373607/
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-20-2020, 09:51 PM
I see your support of unconstitutional confiscation by circumventing due process is on display. Don't worry, no one cares enough to shoot you and they don't want Leftist shitbag on their bullets.
Watch out, he'll post a flag on you. ROFL. I think the FBI should probably investigate him for pedophilia on his computer. Someone responsible please direct them his way.
Wow so youre making real life threats now. Over a message board.
I think I figured out why you're so mad. Dude she told me you kicked her out. I wasnt trying to be Sancho. Sorry man.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-20-2020, 10:14 PM
Wow so youre making real life threats now. Over a message board.
I think I figured out why you're so mad. Dude she told me you kicked her out. I wasnt trying to be Sancho. Sorry man.
https://www.crunchposter.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/screening-or-scamming.png
Methais
01-20-2020, 10:34 PM
https://www.crunchposter.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/screening-or-scamming.png
You’re a huge vagina.
https://www.crunchposter.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/screening-or-scamming.png
This is correct.
I see your support of unconstitutional confiscation by circumventing due process is on display. Don't worry, no one cares enough to shoot you and they don't want Leftist shitbag on their bullets.
If someone is acting crazy, drunk, or inappropriate, fucking hell yes they should have their firearm taken away from them. Thats just common sense. Thats what any responsible adult would do to protect the individual and the people around them. Thats why friends take car keys away from drunk friends. Why wouldn't you do the same with their weapons? Especially the people out there that think no one cares about them.
Parkbandit
01-21-2020, 09:07 AM
If someone is acting crazy, drunk, or inappropriate, fucking hell yes they should have their firearm taken away from them. Thats just common sense. Thats what any responsible adult would do to protect the individual and the people around them. Thats why friends take car keys away from drunk friends. Why wouldn't you do the same with their weapons? Especially the people out there that think no one cares about them.
Do you still have your handgun.. or was that just another case of you making something up again?
Methais
01-21-2020, 09:08 AM
If someone is acting crazy, drunk, or inappropriate, fucking hell yes they should have their firearm taken away from them. Thats just common sense. Thats what any responsible adult would do to protect the individual and the people around them. Thats why friends take car keys away from drunk friends. Why wouldn't you do the same with their weapons? Especially the people out there that think no one cares about them.
Translation: "I, Backlash, should never be allowed to own firearms."
EDIT: No one cares about you except for democrat politicians at election time. Because you're a racist scumbag.
~Rocktar~
01-21-2020, 11:33 PM
If someone is acting crazy, drunk, or inappropriate, fucking hell yes they should have their firearm taken away from them. Thats just common sense. Thats what any responsible adult would do to protect the individual and the people around them. Thats why friends take car keys away from drunk friends. Why wouldn't you do the same with their weapons? Especially the people out there that think no one cares about them.
There is this little thing called due process. Then there is the legal principle of "innocent until proven guilty." And the ability to face your accuser. Not to mention illegal search and seizure. If you are an imminent threat, we already have laws that allow for your arrest, declaring you mentally incompetent and so on. They all have high standards exactly because taking away the rights of the citizen should not be causal and easy. When one or two people with no professional experience and no professional standard can go to the court and testify/lie about you and then you have your rights taken away, that is seriously ripe for abuse. There have already been deaths because of these unconstitutional laws and idiots like you need to get over yourselves. You aren't trying to sell common sense or reasonable restrictions, you are trying to sell an easy road to taking people's rights, disregarding the Constitution and as a stepping stone to implementing tyranny.
Now fuck right off. I still haven't forgotten that I need to write up just how full of shit you are about your assertions early in this thread and how fucked in the head you are for wanting to push for a civil war.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-21-2020, 11:42 PM
In before Backrash the shortdicked pedophile says you are a red flag.
LMAO.
Seriously though, look at the "Back is" tag cloud. He's seriously been hated for 17 years.
Solkern
01-21-2020, 11:54 PM
I had an HK in the states, never fired it outside of a shoot range, but if anyone ever tried to come into my home... damn right I’d put a few slugs in’em
Many times I’ve been hammered, acting stupid as fuck, angry as fuck...we all have... but I never once thought of grabbing my gun and shooting someone.
Solkern
01-21-2020, 11:56 PM
My view on the constitution and rights is, I believe they should be updated, not taken away, or radically altered, but updated to match the current age we are in.
Who would be able to do that, no fucking idea lol
Methais
01-22-2020, 02:34 AM
My view on the constitution and rights is, I believe they should be updated, not taken away, or radically altered, but updated to match the current age we are in.
Who would be able to do that, no fucking idea lol
“Citizens have the right to bear arms (except for nuclear weapons)”
Solkern
01-22-2020, 06:38 AM
“Citizens have the right to bear arms (except for nuclear weapons)”
Yup yup I know!
Wrathbringer
01-22-2020, 09:03 AM
If someone is acting crazy, drunk, or inappropriate, fucking hell yes they should have their firearm taken away from them. Thats just common sense. Thats what any responsible adult would do to protect the individual and the people around them. Thats why friends take car keys away from drunk friends. Why wouldn't you do the same with their weapons? Especially the people out there that think no one cares about them.
You deserve to be mowed down by sharts from a thousand asses.
Astray
01-22-2020, 09:28 AM
If someone is acting crazy, drunk, or inappropriate, fucking hell yes they should have their firearm taken away from them.
With such a clear cut series of definitions, we could totally stop the next mass shooting.
You're fucking worthless.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-22-2020, 09:28 AM
Who would be able to do that, no fucking idea lol
Congress and the states can do that.
https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2020/01/cleveland-cop-who-urinated-on-girl-as-she-waited-for-bus-gets-4-12-years-in-prison.html
Wonder why this wasn't bigger news on all the left news sites....
Oh wait, because the cop wasn't white.
Wrathbringer
01-22-2020, 09:30 AM
With such a clear cut series of definitions, we could totally stop the next mass shooting.
You're fucking worthless.
This is correct.
RichardCranium
01-22-2020, 10:20 AM
https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2020/01/cleveland-cop-who-urinated-on-girl-as-she-waited-for-bus-gets-4-12-years-in-prison.html
Wonder why this wasn't bigger news on all the left news sites....
Oh wait, because the cop wasn't white.
Chances are he doesn't last very long in prison.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-22-2020, 10:26 AM
Chances are he doesn't last very long in prison.
He's got some mental disorder. He recorded himself doing it.
She's gonna get rich suing the PD, so at least there's some good coming from it.
audioserf
01-22-2020, 11:51 AM
If someone is acting crazy, drunk, or inappropriate, fucking hell yes they should have their firearm taken away from them. Thats just common sense. Thats what any responsible adult would do to protect the individual and the people around them. Thats why friends take car keys away from drunk friends. Why wouldn't you do the same with their weapons? Especially the people out there that think no one cares about them.
"Bro, you're being kinda inappropriate, gonna have to ask you to give me your guns until you cool it a bit"
sounds feasible
Methais
01-22-2020, 11:53 AM
https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2020/01/cleveland-cop-who-urinated-on-girl-as-she-waited-for-bus-gets-4-12-years-in-prison.html
Wonder why this wasn't bigger news on all the left news sites....
Oh wait, because the cop wasn't white.
I wonder if Back has started a GoFundMe for him yet.
drauz
01-22-2020, 12:34 PM
Problem with VA is that it is literally Northern VA dictating policy for the rest of the state. They have such a dense population that they get to dictate what the rural counties do.
https://gunrightswatch.com/clientuploads/news/VA/Virginia-County-Map20200108.png
Methais
01-22-2020, 01:04 PM
You deserve to be mowed down by sharts from a thousand asses.
:lol: This is correct.
Parkbandit
01-22-2020, 01:42 PM
Problem with VA is that it is literally Northern VA dictating policy for the rest of the state. They have such a dense population that they get to dictate what the rural counties do.
https://gunrightswatch.com/clientuploads/news/VA/Virginia-County-Map20200108.png
On a bigger scale, CA, NY, NJ, IL and MA are doing the same thing for the rest of the country.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-22-2020, 02:05 PM
On a bigger scale, CA, NY, NJ, IL and MA are doing the same thing for the rest of the country.
Yay for not having popular vote presidents.
Parkbandit
01-22-2020, 02:52 PM
Yay for not having popular vote presidents.
Trump only won because of gerrymandering...
Methais
01-22-2020, 03:09 PM
Trump only won because of gerrymandering...
RUSSIAN GERRYMANDERING!!!!!!
RUSSIAN GERRYMANDERING!!!!!!
My questions are: who is Gerry? and why is he Mandering?
Gelston
01-22-2020, 03:55 PM
My questions are: who is Gerry? and why is he Mandering?
Elbridge Gerry, who, as Governor of Massachusetts in 1812, signed a bill that created a partisan district in the Boston area that was compared to the shape of a mythological salamander.
Elbridge Gerry, who, as Governor of Massachusetts in 1812, signed a bill that created a partisan district in the Boston area that was compared to the shape of a mythological salamander.
The more you know.
Methais
01-22-2020, 09:21 PM
Elbridge Gerry, who, as Governor of Massachusetts in 1812, signed a bill that created a partisan district in the Boston area that was compared to the shape of a mythological salamander.
He was also a Manderlorian.
~Rocktar~
03-02-2020, 09:47 PM
The Virginia Democrats need to stop.
VA Democrats Poised to Take Pensions from Sheriffs Who Opposed Gun Control
During CPAC, Culpepper County Sheriff Scott Jenkins told Breitbart News that Virginia Democrats are punishing sheriffs who continue to stand against gun control.
On December 7, 2019, Breitbart News reported Jenkins’ announcement that he was ready to “deputize thousands” to defend Second Amendment rights had the Virginia Democrats passed gun bans and other controls that were being pushed.
He made clear he equated his actions with calling forth the militia to defend freedom. He quoted Richard Henry Lee from 1788, saying, “A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves…and include all men capable of bearing arms.”
Over the past weekend of CPAC, Jenkins told Breitbart News:
In early December I came out against the newly proposed legislation to restrict everything from ‘assault weapons,’ so-called ‘assault weapons,’ to ‘high capacity magazines…and said that if we’re going to take away weapons from law-abiding citizens I intend to swear in thousands of citizens as reserve deputy sheriffs so they can keep those weapons and be able to protect themselves and use them.
Jenkins said that he and other sheriffs who took a similar stand were threatened with having insurance coverage removed “from deputies and staff.” He said that sheriffs throughout the state were offered a $10,000 raise “if we would tuck tail and follow [the Democrats’] lead and stop the push-back.”
But Jenkins refused to cower, and said they responded by saying “they would take away the raises of the deputies if we didn’t stop.”
He said State Sen. Janet Howell (D) “introduced a bill for next session where she could remove the pension of sheriffs…next year for…saying that we won’t follow unconstitutional laws or that I would use my lawful powers as sheriff to swear in thousands of people as deputies.”
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/02/va-democrats-poised-take-pensions-sheriffs-who-opposed-gun-control/
Tgo01
03-02-2020, 09:50 PM
Democrats are literally a terrorist organization now.
~Rocktar~
03-02-2020, 11:36 PM
Then there is this gem:
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89257748_2669668803251018_3088048229892227072_n.jp g?_nc_cat=103&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=bSuyo-xPXUYAX9BuavE&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=e3f9f338926d5998050fb41091091954&oe=5E984D84
Methais
03-03-2020, 09:50 AM
Then there is this gem:
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89257748_2669668803251018_3088048229892227072_n.jp g?_nc_cat=103&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=bSuyo-xPXUYAX9BuavE&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=e3f9f338926d5998050fb41091091954&oe=5E984D84
I didn't know TheE had a twitter.
Methais
03-03-2020, 09:52 AM
The Virginia Democrats need to stop.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/02/va-democrats-poised-take-pensions-sheriffs-who-opposed-gun-control/
Up next: Sanctuary cities
Tgo01
03-03-2020, 10:37 AM
Democrats are literally a terrorist organization now.
In case anyone thinks this post of mine is hyperbole, here is an elected Democratic politician openly endorsing people with the coronavirus to attend as many Trump rallies as they can to spread the disease to as many Trump supporters as they can:
https://twitter.com/CandiCdeBacaD9/status/1233407795170627586?s=20
Actual, literal, 100% definition of terrorism.
Methais
03-03-2020, 11:35 AM
In case anyone thinks this post of mine is hyperbole, here is an elected Democratic politician openly endorsing people with the coronavirus to attend as many Trump rallies as they can to spread the disease to as many Trump supporters as they can:
https://twitter.com/CandiCdeBacaD9/status/1233407795170627586?s=20
Actual, literal, 100% definition of terrorism.
Just in case it gets deleted:
https://i.imgur.com/KLMtE5K.png (https://twitter.com/CandiCdeBacaD9/status/1233407795170627586)
Tgo01
03-03-2020, 11:43 AM
Just in case it gets deleted:
https://i.imgur.com/KLMtE5K.png
She's a brown Democrat representing actual fascists and calling for bio-terrorism against Trump and his supporters. If anything her constituents and fellow council members will probably throw a parade in her honor.
White privilege ain't got shit on brown privilege.
Alfster
03-03-2020, 12:49 PM
It'll go away when it's warm, so shouldn't be a problem right?
Tgo01
03-03-2020, 12:56 PM
It'll go away when it's warm, so shouldn't be a problem right?
Some experts do believe the virus won't be able to spread as easily once the weather gets warmer, similar to the flu, also might explain why Africa (typically a much warmer climate but often the worst hit by outbreaks) has seen hardly any cases of coronovirus at all.
Why do you hate science so much?
Also way to downplay an elected politician actually encouraging bio-terrorism because you hate Trump that much. Might want to rethink how fucked up your life is.
Alfster
03-03-2020, 01:05 PM
I love that you took that like a serious response.
Gelston
03-03-2020, 01:06 PM
Some experts do believe the virus won't be able to spread as easily once the weather gets warmer, similar to the flu, also might explain why Africa (typically a much warmer climate but often the worst hit by outbreaks) has seen hardly any cases of coronovirus at all.
But it is in Africa and is effecting Iran pretty heavily. It likely hasn't spread a lot in Africa because less people travel from China to Africa.
Tgo01
03-03-2020, 01:08 PM
I love that you took that like a serious response.
I love that you're now pretending you weren't saying that to mock Trump. Why lie?
Tgo01
03-03-2020, 01:10 PM
But it is in Africa and is effecting Iran pretty heavily. It likely hasn't spread a lot in Africa because less people travel from China to Africa.
Iran is in the Middle East. A couple of days ago all of Africa only had 3 cases, that might have changed by now, but at the time 3 for all of Africa is pretty darn low. Also China practically owns Africa now so there would have been a lot of travel between China and Africa.
Although it could just be that Africa's health system is so bad that people with coronovirus aren't going to the hospital or doctors are just releasing patients thinking they are just have the flu or something.
Gelston
03-03-2020, 01:12 PM
Iran is in the Middle East. A couple of days ago all of Africa only had 3 cases, that might have changed by now, but at the time 3 for all of Africa is pretty darn low. Also China practically owns Africa now so there would have been a lot of travel between China and Africa.
Although it could just be that Africa's health system is so bad that people with coronovirus aren't going to the hospital or doctors are just releasing patients thinking they are just have the flu or something.
You said heat stops it. Iran gets as hot as anywhere in Africa.
Alfster
03-03-2020, 01:15 PM
I love that you're now pretending you weren't saying that to mock Trump. Why lie?
I was mocking Trump. You seem to believe him, with no real scientific data to support. Irans hot, Singapore's hot, it seems fairly premature to assert that it'll go away
Ashlander
03-03-2020, 01:17 PM
You said heat stops it. Iran gets as hot as anywhere in Africa.
Maybe it just spreads at night when it's cooler.
https://media0.giphy.com/media/UodQAnIYEw89O/giphy.gif
Tgo01
03-03-2020, 01:18 PM
You said heat stops it. Iran gets as hot as anywhere in Africa.
It's one possible explanation.
Also Iran might have some hot summers but they have pretty mild winters compared to Africa.
The average temperature in February in Iran ranges from 37-52, in Zimbabwe it's 70-88.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
03-03-2020, 01:19 PM
I think ignoring it is not the correct approach.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/irans-moment-of-truth-on-coronavirus/2020/03/03/f82548fe-5cca-11ea-b29b-9db42f7803a7_story.html
A top Iranian health official, Iraj Harirchi, was telling people the situation was being dealt with while sweating and coughing on colleagues and his audience without wearing a face mask; he had contracted the virus. Then Mohammad Mirmohammadi, 71, an adviser to Iran’s Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, died after contracting the virus. Masoumeh Ebtekar, Iran’s vice president, then announced she is ill; according to Graeme Wood writing in the Atlantic, she met with President Hassan Rouhani and his cabinet last week, potentially exposing the entire senior leadership to the disease. According to state media, 23 members of parliament have already contracted the virus.
Some Rogue
03-03-2020, 01:20 PM
It'll go away when it's warm, so shouldn't be a problem right?
Or we can just use the flu vaccine and over the counter stuff.
Gelston
03-03-2020, 01:21 PM
Maybe it just spreads at night when it's cooler.
https://media0.giphy.com/media/UodQAnIYEw89O/giphy.gif
One of the ideas is that the cold weather actually wears down your immune system, especially with people being outside less and getting less vitamin D from the sun. We don't really know and every virus is different. Like Ebola doesn't seem to give a flying fuck about the weather. Influenzea does. CoV is neither of these though.
Tgo01
03-03-2020, 01:24 PM
I was mocking Trump.
So you were downplaying actual bio-terrorism because you think Trump is an idiot. Got it.
You seem to believe him, with no real scientific data to support.
Scientists have also said this. Why do you hate science?
Irans hot, Singapore's hot, it seems fairly premature to assert that it'll go away
Right now in Tehran it's 41 degrees, right now parts of the country in Niger is 97 degrees.
You're right though, it's pretty darn hot in Singapore at the moment. You know what else? Singapore was the first country to contain the virus and saw infection rates slow and currently only has 110 cases. Singapore also has no deaths from the virus. You couldn't have picked a worse example of "LOL! Trump heat thing r dumb!" if you tried.
Gelston
03-03-2020, 01:25 PM
It's one possible explanation.
Also Iran might have some hot summers but they have pretty mild winters compared to Africa.
The average temperature in February in Iran ranges from 37-52, in Zimbabwe it's 70-88.
And you picked an African nation in South Africa. The virus is in North Africa where it has colder winters.
Also, it is confirmed in Nigeria, which has 90 degree temps. We'll see how that spreads, but Nigeria was damn good at stopping Ebola so they are probably used to stopping viruses.
Tgo01
03-03-2020, 01:32 PM
The virus is in North Africa where it has colder winters.
That's what I'm saying though :/
Also, it is confirmed in Nigeria, which has 90 degree temps.
From the information I can find they have 1 confirmed case. Which is remarkable considering this shit started 3 months ago.
Gelston
03-03-2020, 01:34 PM
That's what I'm saying though :/
From the information I can find they have 1 confirmed case. Which is remarkable considering this shit started 3 months ago.
Who the fuck wants to travel to Nigeria?
Tgo01
03-03-2020, 01:37 PM
Who the fuck wants to travel to Nigeria?
Racist.
Astray
03-03-2020, 03:52 PM
Who the fuck wants to travel to Nigeria?
Relief workers?
Alfster
03-03-2020, 04:07 PM
Scientists have also said this. Why do you hate science?
Point to a scientific study that concludes what you're saying. Most actual scientists are cautioning that we simply don't know. So I'd love to see what scientists are saying this.
Tgo01
03-03-2020, 04:12 PM
Point to a scientific study that concludes what you're saying. Most actual scientists are cautioning that we simply don't know. So I'd love to see what scientists are saying this.
I said some experts think heat will slow down infections in the same way some experts think heat helps slow infections of the flu.
If you are denying this science as well I can provide some links. Or you can save me time and just admit you hate Trump so you're unwilling to believe anything he says, even if experts are saying the same thing.
Alfster
03-03-2020, 04:18 PM
I said some experts think heat will slow down infections in the same way some experts think heat helps slow infections of the flu.
If you are denying this science as well I can provide some links. Or you can save me time and just admit you hate Trump so you're unwilling to believe anything he says, even if experts are saying the same thing.
Name the experts. It's not that hard. No one who is an actual expert will say that because they don't know. Their best guess is that it could, for this particular strain.
I'm not denying science or with normal flu viruses, I'm talking about this specific one.
Tgo01
03-03-2020, 04:26 PM
Name the experts. It's not that hard. No one who is an actual expert will say that because they don't know. Their best guess is that it could, for this particular strain.
That's what I said. I didn't say they knew for sure, I said they think heat will slow down infection rate.
Alfster
03-03-2020, 04:30 PM
Hahaha.
Tgo01
03-03-2020, 05:02 PM
Hahaha.
This conversation has been pretty funny.
An elected Democrat politician encourages people to use this new virus as a biological weapon against her political opponents.
You: Yeah but Trump said something dumb! LOL!
Me: Actually some experts have said the warmer weather might slow the infection rate.
You: Googles this because it's the first time you're hearing of it.
You: No one has said they know for sure! They just say it's a possibility!
Me: That's what I said.
You: Hahaha.
Let's not forget you still downplayed a Democratic elected official virtual high fiving people who want to use this virus as a biological weapon against their political foes because you hate Trump that much.
It's time to move on, Alfster, let go of this unnecessary hate and seek professional help for your Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Tgo01
03-03-2020, 05:04 PM
Also that was fun trying to figure out why I kept getting an error about URL codes not being allowed or something. I had to post that reply line by line until I figured it out.
For some reason having the Googles line enclosed in <> causing the error. Weird.
Gelston
03-03-2020, 06:19 PM
Name the experts. It's not that hard. No one who is an actual expert will say that because they don't know. Their best guess is that it could, for this particular strain.
I'm not denying science or with normal flu viruses, I'm talking about this specific one.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/02/what-happens-to-coronavirus-covid-19-in-warmer-spring-temperatures/
It literally takes a google search.
Alfster
03-03-2020, 10:20 PM
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/02/what-happens-to-coronavirus-covid-19-in-warmer-spring-temperatures/
It literally takes a google search.
Which it literally says it's too early to tell. No experts are saying that.
Alfster
03-03-2020, 10:23 PM
This conversation has been pretty funny.
An elected Democrat politician encourages people to use this new virus as a biological weapon against her political opponents.
You: Yeah but Trump said something dumb! LOL!
Me: Actually some experts have said the warmer weather might slow the infection rate.
You: Googles this because it's the first time you're hearing of it.
You: No one has said they know for sure! They just say it's a possibility!
Me: That's what I said.
You: Hahaha.
Let's not forget you still downplayed a Democratic elected official virtual high fiving people who want to use this virus as a biological weapon against their political foes because you hate Trump that much.
It's time to move on, Alfster, let go of this unnecessary hate and seek professional help for your Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Again. No experts are saying what you're claiming. They're saying that it's too early to tell what it will do.
Alfster
03-03-2020, 10:26 PM
Viruses that cause influenza or milder coronavirus colds do tend to subside in warmer months because these types of viruses have what scientists refer to as “seasonality,” so the president’s comments have some scientific backing. But it’s highly uncertain that SARS-CoV-2 will behave the same way. Those currently studying the disease say their research is too early to predict how the virus will respond to changing weather. (See how coronavirus compares to flu, Ebola and other outbreaks.)
Tgo01
03-04-2020, 12:46 AM
Alfster, try saying this: it is absolutely disgusting for an elected official to support people who want to weaponize this virus against people they disagree with.
Are you as devoid of humanity and common decency as Shaft?
Methais
03-04-2020, 01:29 AM
Alfster, try saying this: it is absolutely disgusting for an elected official to support people who want to weaponize this virus against people they disagree with.
Are you as devoid of humanity and common decency as Shaft?
Don’t you mean Keller?
Alfster
03-04-2020, 09:01 AM
Alfster, try saying this: it is absolutely disgusting for an elected official to support people who want to weaponize this virus against people they disagree with.
Are you as devoid of humanity and common decency as Shaft?
She's a real piece of shit. That's a given.
The issue I have is you're making claims that are unproven and saying science backs it up. We simply do not know if there will be a seasonal aspect to this virus. You keep saying experts say, but can't link anything of substance.
Tgo01
03-04-2020, 11:14 AM
Don’t you mean Keller?
Yes, yes I did :p.
I was having a brain fart when trying to think of the name and Shaft’s name popped into my head.
Tgo01
03-04-2020, 11:15 AM
She's a real piece of shit.
That’s all that needed to be said on your part.
~Rocktar~
08-20-2020, 11:20 AM
I have said it a couple of times, lots of other people have said it, here is a guy in a County Commissioner's meeting in California saying it. There will come a time that things will get bad. I hope they don't, I hope people wake up and straighten up, I doubt they will. And for every one of you Leftists on this board yelling about alt-right whatever, it's not the alt right out there burning cities and murdering people and it's not the alt right out there banning everything and pushing to enslave the people to the government in the name of "the children" and "if it just saves one life".
https://www.facebook.com/notyouraverageconservative/videos/3469883656409185/
FlayedAngel
08-20-2020, 11:56 AM
I have said it a couple of times, lots of other people have said it, here is a guy in a County Commissioner's meeting in California saying it. There will come a time that things will get bad. I hope they don't, I hope people wake up and straighten up, I doubt they will. And for every one of you Leftists on this board yelling about alt-right whatever, it's not the alt right out there burning cities and murdering people and it's not the alt right out there banning everything and pushing to enslave the people to the government in the name of "the children" and "if it just saves one life".
The whole "burning down cities" narrative is indefensibly erroneous and stupid, if Portland is any indicator.
And yeah, the associated alt-right aren't the ones committing hate crimes and murdering people... sure, dude.
Neveragain
08-20-2020, 12:25 PM
The whole "burning down cities" narrative is indefensibly erroneous and stupid, if Portland is any indicator.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uDIg2fN2T4
FlayedAngel
08-20-2020, 12:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uDIg2fN2T4
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3RCrejCMAARZhD.jpg
https://nhl.nbcsports.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/13/2011/06/vancouverriots.jpg?w=341&h=343&crop=1
https://news.southernct.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/blogsportsfans2.jpg
https://newsfeed.time.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2011/06/116459634.jpg?w=720
https://dailytrojan.com/2020/06/09/portrayals-of-sports-riots-current-protests-sharply-differ/
Neveragain
08-20-2020, 12:49 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3RCrejCMAARZhD.jpg
https://nhl.nbcsports.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/13/2011/06/vancouverriots.jpg?w=341&h=343&crop=1
https://news.southernct.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/blogsportsfans2.jpg
https://newsfeed.time.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2011/06/116459634.jpg?w=720
https://dailytrojan.com/2020/06/09/portrayals-of-sports-riots-current-protests-sharply-differ/
It doesn't change that leftists are burning cities to the ground and you appear to be ok with it.
"It's just somebodies business guys." "It's just a few city blocks guys."
It almost gives me hope that at some point we can say "It was just your house, dude."
FlayedAngel
08-20-2020, 12:52 PM
Are you really using that argument?
"It's just somebody's husband, or wife, or kid..."
Neveragain
08-20-2020, 01:04 PM
Are you really using that argument?
"It's just somebody's husband, or wife, or kid..."
It's you that is using that argument. Burning cities to the ground does not bring George Floyd back (even though he was a low life scumbag that held a pregnant woman at gunpoint in the past and has a long history of resisting arrest). It doesn't end racism, it just makes it worse.
But you're ok with it. "It's just a window!"....that the tax payer has to pay to replace.
P.S. In all honesty, society is better off without George Floyd. :shrug:
time4fun
08-20-2020, 01:17 PM
It doesn't change that leftists are burning cities to the ground and you appear to be ok with it.
"It's just somebodies business guys." "It's just a few city blocks guys."
It almost gives me hope that at some point we can say "It was just your house, dude."
As usual, you are filled to the brim with extremely deceptive, heavily biased media coverage and are using it to create abjectly inane arguments about these "leftists" (i.e. literally anyone who disagrees with you".)
There are no cities being burned to the ground anywhere except in your wildest hyper conservative fever dreams. There were MILLIONS of people who were protesting peacefully, and you're focusing in a few dozen of them (who by and large weren't actually part of the BLM protests) to try to make sweeping arguments about the other millions. It's childish at best.
There HAVE been some radical groups from the left AND the right (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/31/us/george-floyd-protests-white-supremacists-antifa.html) who have infiltrated some protests and have either taken advantage of the situation to cause destruction or have intentionally caused destruction to make the BLM movement look bad. So right now, you are are *literally* conflating actions taken by some white supremacists with mainstream protesters and democratic voters. Great work.
By the way, there isn't really much evidence (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/11/us/antifa-protests-george-floyd.html) that Antifa was among the groups causing problems. Here's a second fact checking article (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/22/who-caused-violence-protests-its-not-antifa/) stating the same. Though I know you love to pretend like they're terrorists.
And the presence of Federal forces abusing peaceful protesters and leaving their jurisdiction is what caused things to get much, much worse. The civil rights abuses have been many, but you're attacking people who are peacefully protesting.
So just knock it off already. Learn to fact check. Stop filling your brain with hyper conservative, intentionally deceptive garbage.
FlayedAngel
08-20-2020, 01:22 PM
To be clear, by 'any indicator" I meant scope of the actual damage compared to how it's being portrayed -- I'm absolutely not refuting that there's been damage.
Neveragain
08-20-2020, 01:29 PM
As usual, you are filled to the brim with extremely deceptive, heavily biased media coverage and are using it to create abjectly inane arguments about these "leftists" (i.e. literally anyone who disagrees with you".)
There are no cities being burned to the ground anywhere except in your wildest hyper conservative fever dreams. There were MILLIONS of people who were protesting peacefully, and you're focusing in a few dozen of them (who by and large weren't actually part of the BLM protests) to try to make sweeping arguments about the other millions. It's childish at best.
There HAVE been some radical groups from the left AND the right (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/31/us/george-floyd-protests-white-supremacists-antifa.html) who have infiltrated some protests and have either taken advantage of the situation to cause destruction or have intentionally caused destruction to make the BLM movement look bad. So right now, you are are *literally* conflating actions taken by some white supremacists with mainstream protesters and democratic voters. Great work.
By the way, there isn't really much evidence (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/11/us/antifa-protests-george-floyd.html) that Antifa was among the groups causing problems. Here's a second fact checking article (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/22/who-caused-violence-protests-its-not-antifa/) stating the same. Though I know you love to pretend like they're terrorists.
And the presence of Federal forces abusing peaceful protesters and leaving their jurisdiction is what caused things to get much, much worse. The civil rights abuses have been many, but you're attacking people who are peacefully protesting.
So just knock it off already. Learn to fact check. Stop filling your brain with hyper conservative, intentionally deceptive garbage.
They tried looting a bank in June, the feds should have been on the scene immediately after that. Actually, the feds should have been there the very moment Portland declared itself a sanctuary city.
Taernath
08-20-2020, 01:34 PM
Alfster, try saying this: it is absolutely disgusting for an elected official to support people who want to weaponize this virus against people they disagree with.
Are you as devoid of humanity and common decency as Shaft?
There absolutely are people who should be held responsible for their responses to the pandemic.
FlayedAngel
08-20-2020, 01:39 PM
It's you that is using that argument.
Using that argument for your assertion, I meant.
I don't value property over human life, no -- I don't agree with it regardless of who actually caused it, but I don't think it's even remotely comparable. You're right that protesting won't bring anyone back, but the idea is that it will force people to actually examine systemic violence instead of ignoring it.
And I don't give a shit about his morality, he didn't deserve to be executed by someone abusing the power they've been entrusted with.
Neveragain
08-20-2020, 01:46 PM
Using that argument for your assertion, I meant.
I don't value property over human life, no. You're right that protesting won't bring anyone back, but the idea is that it will force people to actually examine systemic violence unheard instead of ignoring it.
And I don't give a shit about his morality, he didn't deserve to be executed by someone abusing the power they've been entrusted with.
So you don't give a shit about George Floyds' morality, the morality where he held a woman at gunpoint, but you do care about the morality of the guy that assaulted George Floyd? Even though it was George Floyds' lack of morality that has lead to a history of resisting arrest which placed him under the knee of the officer?
Interesting.
FlayedAngel
08-20-2020, 01:49 PM
So you don't give a shit about George Floyds' morality, the morality where he held a woman at gunpoint, but you do care about the morality of the guy that assaulted George Floyd? Even though it was George Floyds' lack of morality that has lead to a history of resisting arrest which placed him under the knee of the officer?
Interesting.
Did I say he didn't deserve to be arrested?
Don't pretend like you're meeting me in the middle, because you're not.
Neveragain
08-20-2020, 01:52 PM
Did I say he didn't deserve to be arrested?
Don't pretend like you're meeting me in the middle, because you aren't.
I'm not meeting anyone in the middle. George Floyd had a history of resisting arrest, he had a history of violence with a deadly weapon. George Floyd does not end up under the knee of a police officer if he doesn't resist arrest. George Floyd put himself in that position because he was a fucking violent criminal.
Taernath
08-20-2020, 02:11 PM
I'm not meeting anyone in the middle. George Floyd had a history of resisting arrest, he had a history of violence with a deadly weapon. George Floyd does not end up under the knee of a police officer if he doesn't resist arrest. George Floyd put himself in that position because he was a fucking violent criminal.
We don't live in Mega-City One, police don't get to be judge, jury, and executioner and murder someone just because they did something bad before.
Neveragain
08-20-2020, 02:15 PM
We don't live in Mega-City One, police don't get to be judge, jury, and executioner and murder someone just because they did something bad before.
I'm not saying that an officer gets to be judge, jury and executioner. I am saying that if you have a violent criminal history, you get handled differently when you break the law, especially when you resist arrest.
Parkbandit
08-20-2020, 02:26 PM
We don't live in Mega-City One, police don't get to be judge, jury, and executioner and murder someone just because they did something bad before.
100% agree... but this guy certainly didn't deserve to be put into martyrdom status either.
Taernath
08-20-2020, 02:41 PM
I'm not saying that an officer gets to be judge, jury and executioner. I am saying that if you have a violent criminal history, you get handled differently when you break the law, especially when you resist arrest.
Again, having a violent criminal history doesn't give a pass for a police officer to kneel on your neck for 8 minutes. Resisting arrest doesn't give a pass for a police officer to kneel on your neck for 8 minutes.
100% agree... but this guy certainly didn't deserve to be put into martyrdom status either.
Floyd was just the boiling over point. There were several people murdered before him whose respective protests or movements were mostly ignored or faded away. That's where the anger comes from; people have protested this shit for literal decades and nothing is done. Whether or not Floyd deserves to be the 'face' of the movement isn't something I really care about since he didn't deserve to be murdered in the first place.
Parkbandit
08-20-2020, 02:49 PM
Floyd was just the boiling over point. There were several people murdered before him whose respective protests or movements were mostly ignored or faded away. That's where the anger comes from; people have protested this shit for literal decades and nothing is done. Whether or not Floyd deserves to be the 'face' of the movement isn't something I really care about since he didn't deserve to be murdered in the first place.
The perfect scenario of a black man being murdered by a white officer probably didn't happen in an election year... which is why it was "mostly ignored".
FlayedAngel
08-20-2020, 02:50 PM
I'm not saying that an officer gets to be judge, jury and executioner. I am saying that if you have a violent criminal history, you get handled differently when you break the law, especially when you resist arrest.
"Handled differently" is correct in a sense, just probably not the one you meant.
But I'd still like to know what operating policy includes murdering an unarmed man.
FlayedAngel
08-20-2020, 02:51 PM
The perfect scenario of a black man being murdered by a white officer probably didn't happen in an election year... which is why it was "mostly ignored".
Yes, I'm sure this is all a big scary Democratic conspiracy.
Neveragain
08-20-2020, 03:10 PM
"Handled differently" is correct in a sense, just probably not the one you meant.
But I'd still like to know what operating policy includes murdering an unarmed man.
The operating policy of: George Floyd wakes up and decides to use heroin and pass counterfeit money. Had George Floyd decided not to do heroin and pass off counterfeit money on that given day........none of this happens.
Taernath
08-20-2020, 03:12 PM
The perfect scenario of a black man being murdered by a white officer probably didn't happen in an election year... which is why it was "mostly ignored".
"Election year" had nothing to do with it, people are just fed up. They tried kneeling during the anthem but were ridiculed and ignored, so..
drauz
08-20-2020, 03:25 PM
So you don't give a shit about George Floyds' morality, the morality where he held a woman at gunpoint, but you do care about the morality of the guy that assaulted George Floyd?
Correct, one is a regular citizen. The other is a police officer. One of these are supposed to be held to a higher standard, can you guess which one that is?
Neveragain
08-20-2020, 03:28 PM
Correct, one is a regular citizen. The other is a police officer. One of these are supposed to be held to a higher standard, can you guess which one that is?
The one that has already been given a second chance after they held a woman at gunpoint.
RichardCranium
08-20-2020, 03:34 PM
The operating policy of: George Floyd wakes up and decides to use heroin and pass counterfeit money. Had George Floyd decided not to do heroin and pass off counterfeit money on that given day........none of this happens.
People do heroin and pass counterfeit bills all the time and aren't killed for it.
If Derek Chauvin doesn't murder George Floyd...none of this happens.
Candor
08-20-2020, 03:39 PM
Again, having a violent criminal history doesn't give a pass for a police officer to kneel on your neck for 8 minutes. Resisting arrest doesn't give a pass for a police officer to kneel on your neck for 8 minutes.
You're right.
"Election year" had nothing to do with it, people are just fed up. They tried kneeling during the anthem but were ridiculed and ignored, so..
Because that wasn't the right way to protest the situation. Many people believe that kneeling during the anthem shows a complete disrespect for America and the people who have fought and died for our freedoms. You may disagree with this viewpoint, but that doesn't change the fact that it exists.
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