Bullshit that happened [Archive] - Page 3 - The Gemstone IV Players' Corner

Androidpk

03-26-2019, 03:56 PM

The judge also sealed the court records from the grand jury meaning we will never see the evidence that led the grand jury to recommend 16 counts of disorderly conduct. I’m sure we will see news pundits, Democrat politicians, and celebrities demand this information be released to the public so we can all see the evidence for ourselves. Any day now I’m sure...

Oh and those who claimed no one was on Smollett’s side? There are plenty of actors already saying they never trusted the Chicago police department to begin with. Almost as if this is playing out like I said it would, the DA threw the police under the bus like read meat for Smollett’s rabid defenders.

Let it go, just admit you were wrong about Smollett the entire time and move on already. Eesh

Methais

03-26-2019, 03:59 PM

Of any city, I'd peg them as more likely to chase this than drop it.

Hey tgo how do you feel knowing Jussie Smollett has been exonerated? :lol2:

Hey look, someone mentions PEG and PK shows up right away. :lol:

Methais

03-26-2019, 04:03 PM

Yes, that's why you're always responding to my posts with "you're retarded."

But you are retarded and are constantly reminding us, so I see no issue.

Astray

03-26-2019, 04:14 PM

Smollett basically has no career to go back to. I mean, he might've been cleared of all charges and his record expunged. The internet won't forget it. Neither will people when they slam whatever project has him along. Sure, they might support him for a bit but nobody can handle that forever. Eventually he'll either do it again or fade off into nothing but a meme.

Androidpk

03-26-2019, 04:27 PM

Astray

03-26-2019, 04:29 PM

Was he fired from Empire?

Yes. They went back and rerecorded scenes specifically to cut his screen time.

Androidpk

03-26-2019, 04:51 PM

Yes. They went back and rerecorded scenes specifically to cut his screen time.

I don't know if it's true or not but I hear his reason for doing what he did is because he was unhappy with his meager paycheck of $100,000 an episode.

Tgo01

03-26-2019, 06:24 PM

Astray

03-26-2019, 06:29 PM

I don't know if it's true or not but I hear his reason for doing what he did is because he was unhappy with his meager paycheck of $100,000 an episode.

Sounds like they found a legitimate reason to cut him free amid him being an asshole already.

Tgo01

03-26-2019, 06:35 PM

This thing continues to reek of corruption the more I read about it.

An assistant state's attorney says they did not exonerate Smollett and they saw no problems with the police investigation. Instead the charges were dropped in exchange for Smollett doing community service and agreeing to forfeit his 10k bond.

Since when the fuck is this how things work? There is supposed to be a plea agreement in place where a judge has to agree to the plea agreement and the suspect has to agree to plead guilty to some sort of crime. But I have never heard of all charges being dropped in exchange for some community service (which I read was 16 hours), a small fine (for Smollett), and the suspect never has to plead guilty to anything and can walk away without a criminal record.

What a fucking mess.

Methais

03-26-2019, 07:07 PM

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Also the Chicago police are asking the feds to investigate Foxx (the AG who originally recused herself from the case then stepped back in to drop all charges) because they believe she dropped the charges for political reasons on behalf of a friend of Michelle Obama who asked the charges be dropped.

Apparently Foxx was in contact with a friend of Michelle Obama's AND with members of Smollett's family. How has she not been prosecuted already? Imagine a PROSECUTOR in regular contact with a SUSPECT's family. She did the right thing by recusing herself to begin with, but then takes over again just to drop all charges? "Justice."

In before PK twists this into you being a white supremacist.

This thing continues to reek of corruption the more I read about it.

An assistant state's attorney says they did not exonerate Smollett and they saw no problems with the police investigation. Instead the charges were dropped in exchange for Smollett doing community service and agreeing to forfeit his 10k bond.

Since when the fuck is this how things work? There is supposed to be a plea agreement in place where a judge has to agree to the plea agreement and the suspect has to agree to plead guilty to some sort of crime. But I have never heard of all charges being dropped in exchange for some community service (which I read was 16 hours), a small fine (for Smollett), and the suspect never has to plead guilty to anything and can walk away without a criminal record.

What a fucking mess.

One of those idiots will get rekt by the time it's all said and done with.

Tgo01

03-26-2019, 07:11 PM

In before PK twists this into you being a white supremacist.

One of those idiots will get rekt by the time it's all said and done with.

It's crazy. Imagine far leftists' heads exploding if Manafort got to walk away without a criminal record after doing 16 hours of community service and having his 20 million dollars in assets seized. I would be pissed too because that's not how this is supposed to work. This is beyond corruption. Even Rahm Emanuel sees the corruption plain as day and has had the balls to call it out.

A direct quote from the lead prosecutor on this case: "The fact that (Smollett) feels that we have exonerated him, we have not. I can’t make it any clearer than that."

So why the hell did you let him get away without prosecuting him?

Another direct quote from this guy when asked "Do you believe he is innocent?" His answer: "I do not believe he is innocent."

Suppa Hobbit Mage

03-26-2019, 07:42 PM

Also the Chicago police are asking the feds to investigate Foxx (the AG who originally recused herself from the case then stepped back in to drop all charges) because they believe she dropped the charges for political reasons on behalf of a friend of Michelle Obama who asked the charges be dropped.

Apparently Foxx was in contact with a friend of Michelle Obama's AND with members of Smollett's family. How has she not been prosecuted already? Imagine a PROSECUTOR in regular contact with a SUSPECT's family. She did the right thing by recusing herself to begin with, but then takes over again just to drop all charges? "Justice."

I think he's guilty and got off with less than a wrist slap for what he did - but I also think all the musings on Foxx and Obama is just partisan craziness until someone comes up with real proof of it. For sure someone got paid off or did a favor for someone with big pull... but without proof of something, it's no better than the bullshit grinder Trump has been put through. I'd rather just not watch the show or anything with him in it (frankly never heard of him before all this anyway). He'll fade into obscurity.

Tgo01

03-26-2019, 07:45 PM

I think he's guilty and got off with less than a wrist slap for what he did - but I also think all the musings on Foxx and Obama is just partisan craziness until someone comes up with real proof of it. For sure someone got paid off or did a favor for someone with big pull... but without proof of something, it's no better than the bullshit grinder Trump has been put through. I'd rather just not watch the show or anything with him in it (frankly never heard of him before all this anyway). He'll fade into obscurity.

There are supposedly text messages floating around between Foxx and Michelle Obama's friend. This isn't just some wild conspiracy theory based on nothing like the Russian collusion, there is apparently teeth to this story about Foxx being in contact with Smollett's family.

Taernath

03-26-2019, 07:49 PM

Suppa Hobbit Mage

03-26-2019, 07:49 PM

There are supposedly text messages floating around between Foxx and Michelle Obama's friend. This isn't just some wild conspiracy theory based on nothing like the Russian collusion, there is apparently teeth to this story about Foxx being in contact with Smollett's family.

As with Trump, I say prove it or move on. Or Kavanaugh. Or Virginia Governor, Asst Governor or pick your disgraced (but not really, book deal and insta wealth incoming) politician of the day. I'm tired of people just throwing shade like that's proof.

Astray

03-26-2019, 07:49 PM

Mandatory:

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Tgo01

03-26-2019, 07:56 PM

"supposedly"

I said supposedly because I read the texts and emails on Twitter but wasn't paying attention to where they were from so I didn't want to say it was from a reliable source, but having looked into they apparently are.

As with Trump, I say prove it or move on. Or Kavanaugh. Or Virginia Governor, Asst Governor or pick your disgraced (but not really, book deal and insta wealth incoming) politician of the day. I'm tired of people just throwing shade like that's proof.

You can be skeptical all you want, but Chicago-Sun Times has access to the emails and text messages between Foxx and Michelle Obama's friend due to a public records request. Foxx then admits that Michelle's friend, Tina Tchen, put her in touch with a family member of Jussie Smollett, which is why she originally recused herself from the investigation.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/?post_type=cst_article&p=1971768

So again this isn't just some wild conspiracy theory people are making up, this has been documented and admitted to by Foxx herself. What hasn't been admitted or proven is that Foxx dropped the charges as a personal favor, but I mean come on, let's get real.

The text messages show Foxx told both Tchen and Smollett’s relative that Foxx had reached out to Johnson personally about handing the investigation off to the FBI.

“Spoke to the superintendent earlier. He is going to make the ask. Trying to figure out logistics. I’ll keep you posted,” Foxx wrote the relative that evening.

“OMG this would be a huge victory,” the relative texted in reply.

Defense lawyer and Chicago-Kent College of Law professor Richard Kling said that it would not be unusual for prosecutors to reach to police during an investigation, though it is likely rare that a victim would get the state’s attorney’s personal phone number. Foxx’s decision to recuse, once it became clear that Smollett was likely to be facing charges, was appropriate, Kling said.

“I don’t think it is odd or rare for prosecutors to talk to police, or for (Foxx) herself to ask what is going on in a particular case,” Kling said. “And, once she realized she had talked to a family member who may have given her information about a pending case, recusing herself was exactly the right thing to do.”

Supposedly Foxx didn't make the decision to drop all charges yet her office is the one who put out this message: "State's Attorney Kim Foxx's office says, "After reviewing all of the facts and circumstances of the case, including Mr. Smollett's volunteer service in the community and agreement to forfeit his bond to the City of Chicago, we believe this outcome is a just disposition and appropriate resolution to this case.""

Taernath

03-26-2019, 07:58 PM

I mean come on, let's get real.

I wish we would.

Androidpk

03-26-2019, 08:04 PM

Tgo01

03-27-2019, 08:21 AM

Smollett's lawyers are "weighing their options" in regards to suing the Chicago Police Department.

This guy has some huge balls.

Parkbandit

03-27-2019, 08:36 AM

It's not like I didn't say what would happen here....

Slap on the wrist. Even the charges are weak.

His sentence will be negotiated down to community service and a fine.

That’s the thing though... he will get a slap on the wrist and community service. The charges are rather weak... and since he was the one to send a letter with white powder in it... the charges should be far more imo.

RichardCranium

03-27-2019, 10:50 AM

I think it's pretty fucked up that some of you are here celebrating the fact that Jussie Smollett's attacker had all of his charges dropped you homophobic, anti-Semitic, racist pieces of shit.

Tgo01

03-27-2019, 10:53 AM

I think it's pretty fucked up that some of you are here celebrating the fact that Jussie Smollett's attacker had all of his charges dropped you homophobic, anti-Semitic, racist pieces of shit.

:(

Androidpk

03-27-2019, 10:55 AM

I think it's pretty fucked up that some of you are here celebrating the fact that Jussie Smollett's attacker had all of his charges dropped you homophobic, anti-Semitic, racist pieces of shit.

I hope Jussie doesn't beat himself up over this.

Parkbandit

03-27-2019, 11:38 AM

Parkbandit

03-27-2019, 11:39 AM

I hope Jussie doesn't beat himself up over this.

I hope he does. Severely, but in a non-fatal way.

Methais

03-27-2019, 11:43 AM

This is incredible :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kOIUEm6-hE

Tgo01

03-27-2019, 01:31 PM

The police started to release files via a FOIA request for the case they built against Smollett and almost immediately afterwards a court ordered them to stop releasing new information.

A court is now stepping in and demanding police no longer comply with FOIA requests? The plot thickens!

Methais

03-27-2019, 01:43 PM

Tgo01

03-27-2019, 01:47 PM

Didn't everything already get sealed yesterday or something like that?

Everything the grand jury did was sealed yesterday. Today people were filing FOIA requests with the police to see their files/investigation on the matter and a judge put a stop to it almost immediately.

This is anything but normal behavior at this point. Everything points to a massive cover up now. It's almost as if this never happened, which is strange because Jussie still maintains he was attacked by two racist Trump supporters shouting MAGA country, why is he okay with this all being swept under the rug?

Stumplicker

03-27-2019, 01:58 PM

Has anybody posted this yet? Yes, it's CNN, but it's biased FOR Androidpk's standpoint, which makes it even worse for his lone sticking point yesterday.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/27/entertainment/jussie-smollett-wednesday/index.html

In a surprise hearing Tuesday, Joe Magats, the first assistant state's attorney in Cook County, Illinois, announced he decided to drop charges against Smollett. The stunning reversal 18 days after a grand jury indicted the "Empire" actor on felony disorderly conduct outraged the Chicago mayor and police department.
The decision to drop the charges does not mean the actor was innocent or any new evidence was presented, Magats told CNN affiliate WLS.
"We believe he did what he was charged with doing," he said. "This was not an exoneration. To say he was exonerated by us or anyone else is not true."

Tgo01

03-27-2019, 02:06 PM

Now it makes sense why Foxx's office (the AG who supposedly recused herself) released the statement about the charges being dropped. Foxx didn't recuse herself in the legal sense, because if she had then state law would have mandated a special prosecutor take over the case. Instead it was more of an informal "recusal" so her office could still be the ones making decisions about the case.

This is just so blatant now. But something tells me no one will be fired, no one will be forced to resign, and no one will even be charged with a crime. The mafia didn't disappear from Chicago, they just became politicians.

Parkbandit

03-27-2019, 02:12 PM

Tgo01

03-27-2019, 02:15 PM

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I had a feeling he would walk away with a slap on the wrist. I had no idea he would walk away with the judicial equivalent of a reach around.

Parkbandit

03-27-2019, 02:38 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=68&v=xGvRHLTcYRg

Tgo01

03-27-2019, 02:45 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=68&v=xGvRHLTcYRg

Wolf Blitzer is such a moron ever since CNN went to shit.

"Is the evidence presented maybe not as compelling as the evidence presented to the grand jury?"

The fuck? He thinks the prosecutors show fake hyped up evidence to the grand jury then when it's time for the actual trial they go "Hey hey hey, we were just kidding. Here's the real evidence!"

Alfster

03-27-2019, 02:45 PM

The mayor is spot on. Just an all out frustrating case.

Tgo01

03-27-2019, 10:02 PM

The DA's office saying they give people deferred prosecutions like they did for Smollett all the time.

Here is a chart a local news station put together for people in similar situations to Smollett recently:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2tYYL5XQAAPUym.png:large

Look at that. The ones that have been resolved already all had to plead guilty, were given sentences, and were given criminal records. They were also only facing 1 felony county.

Smollett meanwhile was facing 16 felony counts, took only 33 days to resolve the case, he didn't have to plead guilty, he wasn't given a criminal record, and he wasn't really given a sentence. Having to forfeit his bail hardly counts as a "sentence."

Seizer

03-27-2019, 10:14 PM

Gelston

03-27-2019, 10:37 PM

Well, perhaps federal will do something about the mail fraud. Chicago DA cant do shit about those charges.

Suppa Hobbit Mage

03-27-2019, 11:23 PM

Rahm Emanuel is a douche, and has always been one.

That is all.

No it's not. His name is gay. Probably liberal for takes it up the ass.

Tgo01

03-28-2019, 02:08 PM

Methais

03-28-2019, 02:12 PM

The latest from Smollett's lawyers:

“It is the Mayor and the Police Chief who owe Jussie - owe him an apology - for dragging an innocent man’s character through the mud. Jussie has paid enough.”

This man is a giant piece of shit. You would think Smollett would be thanking his lucky stars he got away with this and not keep stirring the pot. I think his lawyers are actually considering suing the CPD and the city of Chicago.

How are they going to even have a case if they did? Especially with all the evidence being sealed. Unless they just go judge shopping to where the decision is made before anyone even enters the courtroom. Which will probably happen.

What an arrogant piece of shit. He might be an even bigger piece of shit than PK. Maybe.

Tgo01

03-28-2019, 02:15 PM

How are they going to even have a case if they did? Especially with all the evidence being sealed. Unless they just go judge shopping to where the decision is made before anyone even enters the courtroom. Which will probably happen.

They'll try to argue that since the charges were dropped and Jussie wasn't given a sentence that the police and city were conspiring against him or some shit. It could actually work. Of course the city could argue they had all of the evidence they needed to convict him. Just depends on if they get a sympathetic judge and jury.

What an arrogant piece of shit. He might be an even bigger piece of shit than PK. Maybe.

Well let's not get carried away here.

Parkbandit

03-28-2019, 03:50 PM

The latest from Smollett's lawyers:

“It is the Mayor and the Police Chief who owe Jussie - owe him an apology - for dragging an innocent man’s character through the mud. Jussie has paid enough.”

This man is a giant piece of shit. You would think Smollett would be thanking his lucky stars he got away with this and not keep stirring the pot. I think his lawyers are actually considering suing the CPD and the city of Chicago.

I think they should. If he's truly innocent and this was just some CPD shake down and framing him, he should sue them for everything they have.

If he doesn't, he will always be that piece of shit, race baiting shitstain that used his connections and liberal privilege to get away with a crime.

Parkbandit

03-28-2019, 03:52 PM

What an arrogant piece of shit. He might be an even bigger piece of shit than PK. Maybe.

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Methais

03-28-2019, 03:53 PM

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Wrathbringer

03-28-2019, 03:55 PM

Methais

03-28-2019, 04:04 PM

The United States is a nation of laws: badly written and selectively enforced. -Frank Zappa

If Zappa were still alive, I'd like to think he would have written a sequel to Poop Chute called Shart Chute.

Hey! Do you know what you are?
You're an asshole! An ASSHOLE!
Some of you might not agree
'Cause you probably likes a lot of misery
But think a while and you will see...
Broken hearts are for assholes
Broken hearts are for assholes
Are you an asshole?
Broken hearts are for assholes
Are you an asshole too?
Whatcha gonna do, 'cause you're an asshole...
Maybe you think you're a lonely guy
Maybe you think you're too tough to cry
So you went to The Grape,
Just to give it a try
And Dagmar
Without a doubt, the ugliest son of a bitch I ever saw in my life
Was his name...
One Two Three Four!
The whiskers sticking out from underneath of his
Pancake make-up
And yet he was a beautiful lady
Nearly drove you insane
Let's talk about Leather: LEATHERRRRRR
And so you kissed a little sailor
Tex Abel, starring in the latest Shepperton Production:
Who had just blew in from Spain
Sir Richard Pump-A-Loaf
You sniffed the reeking buns of Angel
The story of a demented bread-boffer
And acted like it was cocaine
Cucumber pud annexed to a fine whole-wheat loaf
You were dazzled by the exciting new costume of Ko-Ko
Then on Tuesday night, Caesar's back in town
In a way you can't explain
Facing off in a no-holds-barred tag team grudge match
With Kona.
And so you worked the wall with Michael
Three-hundred-seventy-nine pounds of Samoan dynamite
Which gave your back an awful strain
Volcanic Hell
But you came back on Sunday for the gong show
Next Thursday, teen town's finest...
But you forgot what I was sayin'
'Cause you're an asshole, You're an asshole
That's right
You're an asshole, you're an asshole
Yes, yes
You're an asshole, you're an asshole
That's right
You're an asshole, you're an asshole
Now you been to The Grape 'n' you been to The Chest
'N' now I think you know what you are: you're an asshole
You say you can't live with what you been through
Well, ladies you can be an asshole too
You might pretend you ain't got one on the bottom of you,
But don't fool yourself girl
It's lookin' at you
Don't fool yourself girl
It's winkin' at you
Don't fool yourself girl
It's blinkin' at you
That's why I say
I'm gonna ram it, ram it, ram it
Ram it up yer poop chute
Corn hole
Ram it, ram it, ram it
Ram it up yer poop chute
Fist fuck
Ram it, ram it, ram it
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Wrist-watch; Crisco
Ram it, ram it, ram it
Ram it up yer poop chute
Pud!
Don't fool yourself, girl
It's goin' right up yer poop chute
Don't fool yourself, girl
It's goin' right up yer poop chute
(etc., repeats)
Aw, I knew you'd be surprised...

RichardCranium

03-28-2019, 08:20 PM

About to request a name change to Sir Richard Pump-A-Loaf.

Gelston

03-28-2019, 08:25 PM

About to request a name change to Sir Richard Pump-A-Loaf.

Tired of being DickHead?

Methais

03-29-2019, 09:04 AM

Tired of being DickHead?

It's outie-vaginahead you CiS bigot.

Reported.

Stumplicker

03-29-2019, 09:09 AM

It's outie-vaginahead you CiS bigot.

Reported.

Why does everything have to be dicks or vaginas? You're being really insensitive to the other 72 genders right now.

Reported.

Tgo01

03-30-2019, 08:55 AM

Didn't take long for Rahm Emanuel to revert back to his far left ways. He is now saying Trump is to blame for Jussie Smollett faking a hate crime.

Isn't that a real kick in the teeth? Smollett claims he was the victim of a hate crime and blames Trump, then once evidence comes out that he faked the hate crime Trump is then blamed for Smollett faking the hate crime.

Also Foxx, the one that "recused" herself from the case, published an op ed in the Chicago Tribune. Here are the more laughable parts:

So, why isn’t Smollett in prison or at least on trial? There are two different answers to this, both equally important.

First, the law. There were specific aspects of the evidence and testimony presented to the office that would have made securing a conviction against Smollett uncertain. In determining whether or not to pursue charges, prosecutors are required to balance the severity of the crime against the likelihood of securing a conviction. For a variety of reasons, including public statements made about the evidence in this case, my office believed the likelihood of securing a conviction was not certain.

Hey that's fine. That's why there are these little things called plea bargains, perhaps being a prosecutor you've heard of those before? Maybe?

In the interest of full transparency, I would prefer these records be made public. However, in this case, Illinois law allows defendants in certain circumstances to request that public records remain sealed. Smollett chose to pursue that avenue, and so my office is barred from releasing those records without his approval.

What an absolute lie. Like a defendant can just say "Yeah, seal those records, bitch!" And the DA's office is "barred" from releasing those records without his approval? That's not how this works at all. Outside of juvenile cases (which to be fair Smollett has the maturity of a juvenile) it's almost impossible to get records sealed and the prosecution can sure as shit fight against the request that the records be sealed. Ultimately the judge has the final say, but if the prosecution isn't even going to contest the sealing of the records, as was the case here, then most likely the judge is going to go ahead and grand the defendant's request.

Tgo01

04-13-2019, 10:34 PM

A black man threw a 5 year old white boy off a third floor balcony at the Mall of America earlier today.

Strangely enough the news on this died down slightly after the media realized it was a black man and not a white man in a MAGA hat. Also I dare anyone to find a single reference to the boy's skin color or the man's skin color in any news article.

But it was in the news cycle 24/7 with what a bunch of racists the Covington Catholic school boys were for standing there and doing nothing. Interviews with noted liar Nathan Phillips were on every news station. It was mentioned how brave he was for standing up to the face of racism in a 15 year old boy wearing a MAGA hat.

Yet a black man throwing a white child off a balcony? Sure, it's being reported, but not nearly to the extent the Covington Catholic smear campaign was.

If I didn't know any better I would say the media has an agenda to push and people such as Back and Androidpk are all too happy to help them push said agenda. But I'm sure that's just all in my head.

Gelston

04-13-2019, 10:36 PM

Also I dare anyone to find a single reference to the boy's skin color or the man's skin color in any news article..

How do you know what color they are?

Tgo01

04-13-2019, 10:51 PM

How do you know what color they are?

Because I'm racist.

There is a photo of the suspect floating around and the GoFundMe setup for the boy showed a picture of a boy who is white. Granted it's possible that GoFundMe page is just a scam and in no way related to the boy's family but I think GoFundMe shuts down fakes for high profile fundraisers like this pretty quickly these days.

Gelston

04-13-2019, 10:57 PM

Because I'm racist.

There is a photo of the suspect floating around and the GoFundMe setup for the boy showed a picture of a boy who is white. Granted it's possible that GoFundMe page is just a scam and in no way related to the boy's family but I think GoFundMe shuts down fakes for high profile fundraisers like this pretty quickly these days.

I saw the black mans picture on a news site about an hour ago. Newsist.

Suppa Hobbit Mage

05-31-2019, 08:37 AM

Methais

05-31-2019, 09:41 AM

Tgo01

05-31-2019, 10:24 AM

Man the Smollet case work was released and it's amazing how stupid he and the brothers are. Does no one watch CSI?!

https://www.etonline.com/10-of-the-most-bizarre-details-from-jussie-smolletts-case-documents-released-by-chicago-police

I like the comment from Smollet about how it couldn't be the brothers, because they were "Black as sin".

Racist douche!

I thought they were wearing masks and he couldn’t tell the race of the attackers yet he was sure they weren’t black? This guy is lucky is he friends with the Obamas, he’s such a bad criminal and liar he would have been screwed otherwise.

sellstuff1

05-31-2019, 10:33 AM

I thought they were wearing masks and he couldn’t tell the race of the attackers yet he was sure they weren’t black? This guy is lucky is he friends with the Obamas, he’s such a bad criminal and liar he would have been screwed otherwise.

Hey Dreaven where's the retraction you promised for the story about Trump's staffers demanding a tarp cover the USS John McCain, or the instructions received from on high that USS John McCain sailors shouldn't attend Trump's speech in uniform?

Methais

05-31-2019, 10:44 AM

Hey Dreaven I'm gay. Like really gay. And mad. Sooooooo mad!

This is correct.

Tgo01

05-31-2019, 10:54 AM

Hey Dreaven where's the retraction you promised for the story about Trump's staffers demanding a tarp cover the USS John McCain, or the instructions received from on high that USS John McCain sailors shouldn't attend Trump's speech in uniform?

You’re ready to admit you’re lied to by the media on a daily basis and explain why you enjoy it?

Parkbandit

05-31-2019, 10:55 AM

I bet Back still believes Smollett was telling the truth.

Androidpk believes Smollett was exonerated when the charges were dropped.. so the stupidity of the left knows no bounds.

sellstuff1

05-31-2019, 10:57 AM

You’re ready to admit you’re lied to by the media on a daily basis and explain why you enjoy it?

I'm ready to admit that your retraction claim was a complete fabrication to save face. Are you?

Suppa Hobbit Mage

05-31-2019, 11:14 AM

I'm ready to admit that your retraction claim was a complete fabrication to save face. Are you?

it's not been proven or disproven. If you believe snopes anyway.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/uss-mccain-trump/

sellstuff1

05-31-2019, 11:15 AM

it's not been proven or disproven. If you believe snopes anyway.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/uss-mccain-trump/

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6042875831001/#sp=show-clips

Navy official confirms White House requested USS McCain be kept away during Trump visit

Nice to see that just like the other triggered snowflakes, you're also refusing to believe multiple reliable sources on the issue of your president being an idiot manchild.

sellstuff1

05-31-2019, 11:17 AM

You’re ready to admit you’re lied to by the media on a daily basis and explain why you enjoy it?

You’re ready to admit you’re lied to by the media on a daily basis and explain why you enjoy it?

Suppa Hobbit Mage

05-31-2019, 11:21 AM

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6042875831001/#sp=show-clips

Navy official confirms White House requested USS McCain be kept away during Trump visit

Nice to see that just like the other triggered snowflakes, you're also refusing to believe multiple reliable sources on the issue of your president being an idiot manchild.

Actually, I'm not invested in if he did or not. I frankly don't care. I was just providing the snopes link.

I do like your thinking, that foxnews is a reliable source.

sellstuff1

05-31-2019, 11:22 AM

Actually, I'm not invested in if he did or not. I frankly don't care. I was just providing the snopes link.

I do like your thinking, that foxnews is a reliable source.

Conservatives brainwashed for 20 years by Fox News suddenly calling Fox News unreliable when it reports on Trump consistently just puts a shit-eating grin on my face.

Parkbandit

05-31-2019, 11:34 AM

Conservatives brainwashed for 20 years by Fox News suddenly calling Fox News unreliable when it reports on Trump consistently just puts a shit-eating grin on my face.

He literally just said that he agrees with your assertion that Fox News is a reliable source.

It's like you have a brain defect that makes it extremely difficult for you to have a conversation with anyone over the age of 5.

Is that why you are more comfortable around children? I just thought it was because you are a raging pedophile.

Also, why do you enjoy eating shit? I'm sure our shart expert will find your answer informative.

sellstuff1

05-31-2019, 11:35 AM

He literally just said that he agrees with your assertion that Fox News is a reliable source.

Are you so utterly bereft of reading comprehension that you can't detect the sarcasm in that last sentence? Holy shit man, that's practically illiteracy.

But do project some more. Everyone has to be good at something!

Tgo01

05-31-2019, 11:42 AM

I'm ready to admit that your retraction claim was a complete fabrication to save face. Are you?

http://66.media.tumblr.com/16a21066f8ce79f8e9e70b8d46cf26e1/tumblr_nxlabzNdg91txfen3o1_500.gif

sellstuff1

05-31-2019, 11:50 AM

http://66.media.tumblr.com/16a21066f8ce79f8e9e70b8d46cf26e1/tumblr_nxlabzNdg91txfen3o1_500.gif

Right, so you aren't. You're totally fine with making ~15 posts to the tune of staunchly refusing to believe that Trump would be pathetic enough to demand a ship not be present near him because it shares the name of a war hero that he personally hates. You're also totally fine with attacking people for trying to correct your misinformation. Why are you so pathetic, Dreaven?

Tgo01

05-31-2019, 12:18 PM

Right, so you aren't. You're totally fine with making ~15 posts to the tune of staunchly refusing to believe that Trump would be pathetic enough to demand a ship not be present near him because it shares the name of a war hero that he personally hates. You're also totally fine with attacking people for trying to correct your misinformation. Why are you so pathetic, Dreaven?

https://i.imgur.com/GNWISvO.gif?noredirect

Methais

05-31-2019, 12:41 PM

https://i.imgur.com/GNWISvO.gif?noredirect

https://media1.tenor.com/images/3c526a7177370c6067cd7ff0571cf4d4/tenor.gif?itemid=10310757

~Rocktar~

05-31-2019, 09:38 PM

Conservatives brainwashed for 20 years by Fox News suddenly calling Fox News unreliable when it reports on Trump consistently just puts a shit-eating grin on my face.

I imagine that your constant habit of eating shit from Hillary's anus is what puts the shit eating grin on your face.

Gelston

06-21-2019, 01:16 PM

Judge To Appoint Special Prosecutor To Jussie Smollett Case; Prosecutor Could Reinstate Charges

CHICAGO (CBS) — A Cook County judge has ruled a special prosecutor should be appointed to investigate the Jussie Smollett case, saying Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx had no authority to hand it off to her top deputy after announcing she recused herself.

RELATED: Catch Up On CBS 2’s Coverage Of The Smollett Case

A special prosecutor would be allowed to bring new charges against the “Empire” actor if there are “reasonable grounds” to do so, Judge Michael Toomin ruled.

Toomin said Foxx’s contact with a relative of Smollett’s before he was charged did not rise to the level of a conflict of interest. He said she had no authority to appoint her top deputy, First Assistant State’s Attorney Joseph Magats, to oversee the case after announcing she was recusing herself. He said Foxx effectively appointed Magats to a “fictitious” office to serve in her stead.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/06/21/judge-to-appoint-special-prosecutor-to-jussie-smollett-case-prosecutor-could-reinstate-charges/

So basically, they could bring new charges back against Smollett.

Methais

06-21-2019, 01:21 PM

So basically, they could bring new charges back against Smollett.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzxNYnWW0AYbIEH.jpg

Gelston

06-21-2019, 01:24 PM

I'm sure Tgo will cream his pants at the latest news.

Suppa Hobbit Mage

06-21-2019, 01:35 PM

I can't imagine why he didn't hire two white guys to fake assault him.

edit to add: or at least have them in whiteface...

Ashlander

06-21-2019, 04:39 PM

or at least have them in whiteface...

Because that would be racist

Tgo01

06-21-2019, 04:45 PM

I'm sure Tgo will cream his pants at the latest news.

Damn right! Justice for the Nigerian brothers!

Back

06-24-2019, 09:33 AM

Heres some bullshit that happened.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48737711

Oregon's Democrats, who have a clear Senate majority, want to pass landmark climate change legislation. Local Republicans have fled to stop that happening.

This weekend, the state capitol had to shut down altogether amid apparent security threats from militia groups.

So, to PREVENT a majority vote for action on climate change, republicans have gone into hiding so the vote can't happen. The state capitol was SHUT DOWN because of security threats by AMERICAN militias.

Thats a whole lot of bullshit right there.

Gelston

06-24-2019, 09:36 AM

Heres some bullshit that happened.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48737711

So, to PREVENT a majority vote for action on climate change, republicans have gone into hiding so the vote can't happen. The state capitol was SHUT DOWN because of security threats by AMERICAN militias.

Thats a whole lot of bullshit right there.

Stay on topic you dumb retard.

Methais

06-24-2019, 10:10 AM

Gelston

06-24-2019, 10:29 AM

I agree, the Oregon green new deal is bullshit.

Stay on topic you dumb retard

Methais

06-24-2019, 10:46 AM

Stay on topic you dumb retard

Stay on topic you dumb retard

Back

06-24-2019, 02:22 PM

I agree, the Oregon green new deal is bullshit.

Thats nice. How do you feel about our democratic system? Or the fact that a state government building was shut down because of threats from militia groups?

Tgo01

06-24-2019, 02:35 PM

So, to PREVENT a majority vote for action on climate change

By preventing a "vote for action on climate change" you really just mean increase fuel costs to hurt the poor and middle class and charge businesses more for polluting which would also disproportionality hurt the poor and middle class right?

When will poor and working class people realize the same party can't both look after their interests AND the "green" interests. They are inherently polar opposites. It's the same shit with giving tax credits to people who buy expensive hybrid cars and put solar panels on their roofs; use tax dollars meant to help YOU, the poor and disadvantaged, but instead give it to wealthy people so they can save even more money on their energy costs.

Methais

06-24-2019, 02:49 PM

Thats nice. How do you feel about our democratic system? Or the fact that a state government building was shut down because of threats from militia groups?

TD;DR

But anyway, how do you feel about how if it was the other way around and democrats didn't show up for like some anti-abortion vote or whatever you'd be like VERY PROUD OF MY PARTY FOR TAKING A STAND TODAY THIS IS THE KIND OF PEOPLE WE NEED IN GOVERNMENT!!!!

Neveragain

06-24-2019, 04:26 PM

Thats nice. How do you feel about our democratic system? Or the fact that a state government building was shut down because of threats from militia groups?

Except it wasn't shut down by "militia groups", it was shut down because the moonbat Governor was trying to use the state police like her own personal Gestapo.

Understandably you're probably ignorant about the state of politics in the Pacific NW.

If it was shut down because of militia groups, so what. The militia is "We the People" as stated in the constitution and, as usual, the people are sick of more taxes.

Suppa Hobbit Mage

06-24-2019, 07:08 PM

Ashlander

06-24-2019, 07:19 PM

Not to be a wut aboot, but didn’t the exact thing happen in Scott Walkers state a couple years back? In either case, I’m with Backrash on this one. Do your fucking job as representatives, even if I disagree. Do your jobs. Elections have consequence.

Kinda inbetween it on it for me. Crappy of them to walk out but shitty for the Governor to authorize the state police to arrest them to make them come back.

Gelston

06-24-2019, 07:41 PM

Not to be a wut aboot, but didn’t the exact thing happen in Scott Walkers state a couple years back? In either case, I’m with Backrash on this one. Do your fucking job as representatives, even if I disagree. Do your jobs. Elections have consequence.

Maybe their constituents elected them to do this sort of thing? Their only job is to echo the wishes of the people who voted for them.

Tgo01

06-24-2019, 07:45 PM

Not to be a wut aboot, but didn’t the exact thing happen in Scott Walkers state a couple years back? In either case, I’m with Backrash on this one. Do your fucking job as representatives, even if I disagree. Do your jobs. Elections have consequence.

Oregon's fault for even allowing this type of thing to happen. At one point Oregon must have put this in their constitution or whatever to give some power to the minority party.

I'm sure the Democrats in the state will be working on changing this rule soon.

Neveragain

06-24-2019, 08:15 PM

Interestingly enough, Oregon was the first state to introduce a gas tax that was to be used for road maintenance.

Even more interesting, Kate Brown and her husband just moved into the 11,000 sq. ft. governors mansion back in 2015.

https://katu.com/resources/media/c66ca320-c19c-4aab-a3b7-f2ae068668a6-140109lifeinoregon11.jpg?1445974029959

Back, how do you feel about a politician that wants to raise taxes to combat "global warming" while her and her husband live in a 91 year old, 11,000 sq. ft. home?

The governor also wants the state to visit all homes with newborn children.

I find it shocking that the militia has grown in numbers in Oregon, shocking!

Suppa Hobbit Mage

06-24-2019, 08:58 PM

Maybe their constituents elected them to do this sort of thing? Their only job is to echo the wishes of the people who voted for them.

Then show up and make your point. I didn't, and I'm sure no one else elected, someone not to show up. You go to work and do you fucking job, not drop out like a fucking loser. I didn't vote for anyone not to work, get to work.

Back

06-24-2019, 09:22 PM

Except it wasn't shut down by "militia groups", it was shut down because the moonbat Governor was trying to use the state police like her own personal Gestapo.

You're confusing yourself. I never said it was shut down by "militia groups". The Police Superintendant shut it down over what the police said were credible threats from militia groups. Oregon state police have the authority to do what the Governor asked them to do.

Understandably you're probably ignorant about the state of politics in the Pacific NW.

I'm no expert, no, but I'm pretty sure its fairly uncommon for state capitals to get shut down by credible threats from American militias.

If it was shut down because of militia groups, so what. The militia is "We the People" as stated in the constitution and, as usual, the people are sick of more taxes.

I don't know why they aren't being treated like terrorists because thats what they are. You can wrap yourself in the American flag but it does not make you any different from any other group that uses threats of violence and fear to go against the majority to get their way.

And this happened because the majority want a cleaner future on this planet? Thats the truly batshit crazy part of all of this.

Gelston

06-24-2019, 09:26 PM

Then show up and make your point. I didn't, and I'm sure no one else elected, someone not to show up. You go to work and do you fucking job, not drop out like a fucking loser. I didn't vote for anyone not to work, get to work.

They are obstructing the vote. This is probably exactly what their constituents wanted. If not, they won't be elected again.

Suppa Hobbit Mage

06-24-2019, 09:30 PM

They are obstructing the vote. This is probably exactly what their constituents wanted. If not, they won't be elected again.

Why have elected officials if they don't go to work and do their job?

No need to answer, it's rhetorical. It's bullshit this is politics in America today.

Gelston

06-24-2019, 09:56 PM

Why have elected officials if they don't go to work and do their job?

No need to answer, it's rhetorical. It's bullshit this is politics in America today.

You seem to think they aren't doing their jobs. I'm saying they are doing exactly what they were elected to do, hence, they are doing their jobs.

Taernath

06-24-2019, 10:01 PM

Kick the obstructionist pissbabies out, run snap elections for their positions, then change quorum laws to prevent this kind of abuse.

Back

06-24-2019, 10:08 PM

By preventing a "vote for action on climate change" you really just mean increase fuel costs to hurt the poor and middle class and charge businesses more for polluting which would also disproportionality hurt the poor and middle class right?

Not quite. The top polluting companies are taxed for emissions, an incentive for them to find greener technology, and the money is used to invest in low income communities infrastructure with regard to climate change.

Under a cap-and-trade program, the state puts an overall limit on emissions and auctions off pollution permits or “allowances” for each ton of carbon that industries plan to emit. Only the largest polluters are targeted, and the idea is that as the emissions limit becomes stricter over time, it will be in industries’ financial interest to switch to green technology. Oregon’s program would begin in 2021, and the state wants to reduce emissions to 80% below 1990 levels by 2050.

Most of the money raised — estimated to total $550 million in the first year — would be used to fund a sweeping progressive platform that encourages further emission cuts and prioritizes investments in low-income and tribal communities’ ability to respond to climate change.

https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-oregon-climate-policy-cap-and-trade-20190617-story.html

When will poor and working class people realize the same party can't both look after their interests AND the "green" interests. They are inherently polar opposites. It's the same shit with giving tax credits to people who buy expensive hybrid cars and put solar panels on their roofs; use tax dollars meant to help YOU, the poor and disadvantaged, but instead give it to wealthy people so they can save even more money on their energy costs.

Not even sure what you're rambling about here. Climate change is affecting everyone, the poorest the worst, so it is in everyone's best interest to find solutions to a problem that has been ignored and thus grown for decades.

I think the oil industry should have its subsidies removed entirely and be heavily taxed with that money used towards clean up programs.

~Rocktar~

06-24-2019, 10:38 PM

Kick the obstructionist pissbabies out, run snap elections for their positions, then change quorum laws to prevent this kind of abuse.

All I hear is "I don't like the process so let's try to invalidate an election and change the laws to fit my personal opinion."

Gelston

06-24-2019, 10:39 PM

Kick the obstructionist pissbabies out, run snap elections for their positions, then change quorum laws to prevent this kind of abuse.

Doesn't help if they just reelect them again.

Tgo01

06-24-2019, 10:39 PM

then change quorum laws to prevent this kind of abuse.

This is what I agree with. Clearly this type of filibustering was put in originally for a reason; presumably so the minority has some sort of negotiating power and aren't just sitting there being run over by the majority.

If the majority doesn't like it then they should find a way to change the rules. Otherwise tough shit follow the rules, don't call the cops and ask them to arrest members of congress for not showing up to work. Is anyone even defending that bullshit? Because that's pretty indefensible.

Tgo01

06-24-2019, 10:42 PM

Not quite. The top polluting companies are taxed for emissions, an incentive for them to find greener technology, and the money is used to invest in low income communities infrastructure with regard to climate change.

Right, because the companies won't just pass the increased cost onto the consumer or lay off workers. And yes, I'm totally sure the money raised will go directly towards helping low income communities and it won't go to waste, fraud, or other pet projects by lawmakers. I know you weren't born yesterday but perhaps it was last week?

Not even sure what you're rambling about here. Climate change is effecting everyone

Yeah, Oregon is responsible for what, 0.10% of the world's total greenhouse gases? The entire state of Oregon can disappear tomorrow and no one will even notice a difference in the amount of greenhouse gases in the air. But let's make sure we rake the poor and middle class over the coals!

Taernath

06-24-2019, 10:59 PM

This is what I agree with. Clearly this type of filibustering was put in originally for a reason; presumably so the minority has some sort of negotiating power and aren't just sitting there being run over by the majority.

If the majority doesn't like it then they should find a way to change the rules. Otherwise tough shit follow the rules, don't call the cops and ask them to arrest members of congress for not showing up to work. Is anyone even defending that bullshit? Because that's pretty indefensible.

I'm fairly confident it was never intended for the minority party to completely halt the legislative process by just not showing up. The guys who wrote the state constitution, the ones riding penny farthings, wearing top hats, and writing black exclusion laws, literally never envisioned a future where one party would just say 'fuck it' and refuse to do their jobs.

Gelston

06-24-2019, 11:10 PM

Tgo01

06-24-2019, 11:10 PM

I'm fairly confident it was never intended for the minority party to completely halt the legislative process by just not showing up. The guys who wrote the state constitution, the ones riding penny farthings, wearing top hats, and writing black exclusion laws, literally never envisioned a future where one party would just say 'fuck it' and refuse to do their jobs.

Then why does it work like that? I can't think of any other political situation where people can just simply not show up and the other side can't even vote unless they show up. If this happens in the US congress then their vote just doesn't get counted, but it doesn't prevent the other side from even holding a vote.

At some point they made the rule that if there aren't enough senators at the senate when the vote is held then the vote can't even take place. Unless I'm totally misunderstanding what is happening here.

Neveragain

06-25-2019, 07:14 AM

You're confusing yourself. I never said it was shut down by "militia groups". The Police Superintendant shut it down over what the police said were credible threats from militia groups. Oregon state police have the authority to do what the Governor asked them to do.

I'm no expert, no, but I'm pretty sure its fairly uncommon for state capitals to get shut down by credible threats from American militias.

I don't know why they aren't being treated like terrorists because thats what they are. You can wrap yourself in the American flag but it does not make you any different from any other group that uses threats of violence and fear to go against the majority to get their way.

And this happened because the majority want a cleaner future on this planet? Thats the truly batshit crazy part of all of this.

Your vision of how things should work in no way aligns with how our country was founded. Our government is supposed to live in fear of the people. Unlike the lefts militia (antifa) who rioted in the streets of Washington over an election, the Oregon malitia did nothing.

You totally gloss over the fact that this cunt lives in a 90 year old 11,000 sq. ft. home and is calling to tax people for their carbon emissions. This is Marie Antoinette level of hypocrisy. "Let them drive electric cars!"

Gelston

06-25-2019, 08:36 AM

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/06/24/jussie-smollett-chicago-police-video/?utm_source=Need+2+Know&utm_campaign=28056785a7-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_6_25_2019_6_50&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_97f672225d-28056785a7-317209481

More Smollett stuff, including body cam video from the officer's 1st contact with him.

Methais

06-25-2019, 08:37 AM

And this happened because the majority want a cleaner future on this planet? Thats the truly batshit crazy part of all of this.

It's funny that you still believe this is really their goal and not just some red herring. Funny as in you should be wearing a helmet everywhere you go.

Because you're a retard.

Not quite. The top polluting companies are taxed for emissions, an incentive for them to find greener technology, and the money is used to invest in low income communities infrastructure with regard to climate change.

https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-oregon-climate-policy-cap-and-trade-20190617-story.html

Not even sure what you're rambling about here. Climate change is effecting everyone, the poorest the worst, so it is in everyone's best interest to find solutions to a problem that has been ignored and thus grown for decades.

I think the oil industry should have its subsidies removed entirely and be heavily taxed with that money used towards clean up programs.

Jesus Christ Back why are you so fucking gullible?

Methais

06-25-2019, 08:44 AM

I'm fairly confident it was never intended for the minority party to completely halt the legislative process by just not showing up. The guys who wrote the state constitution, the ones riding penny farthings, wearing top hats, and writing black exclusion laws, literally never envisioned a future where one party would just say 'fuck it' and refuse to do their jobs.

https://media.giphy.com/media/Qkg7iO6IgycZq/giphy.gif

Did Oregon have black exclusion laws? Maybe just anti-Chinese.

Stay on topic you god damn retard.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/06/24/jussie-smollett-chicago-police-video/?utm_source=Need+2+Know&utm_campaign=28056785a7-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_6_25_2019_6_50&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_97f672225d-28056785a7-317209481

More Smollett stuff, including body cam video from the officer's 1st contact with him.

THAT'S RIGHT YOU BETTER LISTEN!!!!!!!1

Back

06-25-2019, 08:45 AM

Right, because the companies won't just pass the increased cost onto the consumer or lay off workers. And yes, I'm totally sure the money raised will go directly towards helping low income communities and it won't go to waste, fraud, or other pet projects by lawmakers. I know you weren't born yesterday but perhaps it was last week?

Is that really a good reason not to do something about climate change? Why would you not be upset by the companies whose unclean practices are having an effect on the shared future of our lives on this planet in the first place? Instead you are upset by people who want to correct that problem for our better shared future?

You claim the stated law will be skirted and the money not used as the law says it will not be used. While I share your skepticism to a point, and we should watch everything the government does like a hawk, and ask them questions, and hold them accountable, by all means! I do trust that most of the time it works like it should with the checks and balances, oversight, and public access to information to keep them accountable to what they laws that they make for us say.

Yeah, Oregon is responsible for what, 0.10% of the world's total greenhouse gases? The entire state of Oregon can disappear tomorrow and no one will even notice a difference in the amount of greenhouse gases in the air. But let's make sure we rake the poor and middle class over the coals!

This is rationalization against something science has shown us to be true. We have to start somewhere. Every atom makes up a molecule. Every state makes a nation. When this goes global we'll be in a better place with a better future.

Your attitude is why we are here in the first place. So many people have come up with so many reasons why we can't tackle the climate change problem that they just don't do anything. Are people coming up with excuses because they are too lazy to throw a bottle in a different bin? Skepticism of our government, any government, is understandable, but skepticism isn't a good enough reason not to try to accomplish great and necessary things.

Methais

06-25-2019, 08:50 AM

Is that really a good reason not to do something about climate change? Why would you not be upset by the companies whose unclean practices are having an effect on the shared future of our lives on this planet in the first place? Instead you are upset by people who want to correct that problem for our better shared future?

You claim the stated law will be skirted and the money not used as the law says it will not be used. While I share your skepticism to a point, and we should watch everything the government does like a hawk, and ask them questions, and hold them accountable, by all means! I do trust that most of the time it works like it should with the checks and balances, oversight, and public access to information to keep them accountable to what they laws that they make for us say.

This is rationalization against something science has shown us to be true. We have to start somewhere. Every atom makes up a molecule. Every state makes a nation. When this goes global we'll be in a better place with a better future.

Your attitude is why we are here in the first place. So many people have come up with so many reasons why we can't tackle the climate change problem that they just don't do anything. Are people coming up with excuses because they are too lazy to throw a bottle in a different bin? Skepticism of our government, any government, is understandable, but skepticism isn't a good enough reason not to try to accomplish great and necessary things.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/66r2EQo5nPQZO/giphy.gif

Suppa Hobbit Mage

06-25-2019, 08:53 AM

You seem to think they aren't doing their jobs. I'm saying they are doing exactly what they were elected to do, hence, they are doing their jobs.

i disagree. We don’t elect officials not to work. To be clear, the only piece of Backrash’s retardation I agree with is the elected officials show up to work. All the other bullshit if just him being his usual triggered snowflake world is ending self.

Back

06-25-2019, 08:54 AM

Back, how do you feel about a politician that wants to raise taxes to combat "global warming" while her and her husband live in a 91 year old, 11,000 sq. ft. home?

What does one thing have to do with the other? And more importantly why do you feel this gives an unlawful militia justification to use fear and violence against the government and people of a state of this nation?

The governor also wants the state to visit all homes with newborn children.

What does this have to do with anything? What bothers you about it?

I find it shocking that the militia has grown in numbers in Oregon, shocking!

I find it shocking that they have not been rounded up and thrown in jail. Oh, wait, they aren't black.

Suppa Hobbit Mage

06-25-2019, 08:56 AM

call the cops and ask them to arrest members of congress for not showing up to work. Is anyone even defending that bullshit? Because that's pretty indefensible.

Im 100% ok with arresting more politicians. Lawyers as well.

Methais

06-25-2019, 08:58 AM

What does one thing have to do with the other?

No one expects a huge tard like you to see the blatant hypocrisy.

I find it shocking that they have not been rounded up and thrown in jail. Oh, wait, they aren't black.

https://www.diggitmagazine.com/sites/default/files/soyboy.png

Back

06-25-2019, 09:09 AM

Your vision of how things should work in no way aligns with how our country was founded. Our government is supposed to live in fear of the people. Unlike the lefts militia (antifa) who rioted in the streets of Washington over an election, the Oregon malitia did nothing.

Dude, its 2019. If you have not noticed, a few things have changed and there are a few more people around. Things change.

You sit there and argue about one militia being more valid than another militia like they are football teams without acknowledging that the methods they all use are illegal and anti-societal. Your lowest common denominator makes the rule attitude is stupid and counter intuitive towards progress and growth.

You totally gloss over the fact that this cunt lives in a 90 year old 11,000 sq. ft. home and is calling to tax people for their carbon emissions. This is Marie Antoinette level of hypocrisy. "Let them drive electric cars!"

Very dramatic. This is America people can live in whatever house they want. You attempt to engage in personal attacks against a governor because you are unhappy with legislation that democratically elected people are trying to pass to make our world a better place for ourselves and our future generations? I don't think you understand how wildly off base and off target you are.

And electric cars will dominate the market in a few years. There is your free market sorting things out.

Methais

06-25-2019, 09:38 AM

Dude, its 2019. If you have not noticed, a few things have changed and there are a few more people around and a huge number of them are just as retarded as me if not worse.

This is correct.

Very dramatic. This is America people can live in whatever house they want. You attempt to engage in personal attacks against a governor because you are unhappy with legislation that democratically elected people are trying to pass to make our world a better place for ourselves and our future generations? I don't think you understand how wildly off base and off target you are.

And electric cars will dominate the market in a few years. There is your free market sorting things out.

Do you think the governor's mansion is good for climate change? How about when compared to the energy output of the average home the governor is wanting to legislate "for the environment"?

in b4 lame deflection

Back

06-25-2019, 10:02 AM

Do you think the governor's mansion is good for climate change?

People need places to live. Our wonderful system is set up so people can earn money and live and how they can afford. Which is awesome.

In that we need to use the resources of the Earth to build ourselves shelter, and nice shelter, is something we'll have to settle with in terms of how it affects our planet. I think most people would agree. But along with that I doubt that everyone then thinks that means we can pour toxic chemicals into the water supply as being alright. How is that different than producing harmful molecules on a global scale and pouring them into the atmosphere of our little bubble in the universe?

Your question really makes no sense. How is the governor's mansion bad for the environment?

How about when compared to the energy output of the average home the governor is wanting to legislate "for the environment"?

Where did you get the idea that the governor of Oregon wants to legislate the energy output of homes?

Are you putting "for the environment" in quotes because you don't believe thats an actual thing? If its not "for the environment" why else would your mythical governor who wants to legislate the energy output of homes want to do such a thing?

Methais

06-25-2019, 10:26 AM

People need places to live. Our wonderful system is set up so people can earn money and live and how they can afford. Which is awesome.

In that we need to use the resources of the Earth to build ourselves shelter, and nice shelter, is something we'll have to settle with in terms of how it affects our planet. I think most people would agree. But along with that I doubt that everyone then thinks that means we can pour toxic chemicals into the water supply as being alright. How is that different than producing harmful molecules on a global scale and pouring them into the atmosphere of our little bubble in the universe?

That's a lot of words just to say "I don't wanna answer this question!"

Your question really makes no sense. How is the governor's mansion bad for the environment?

How is it good for the environment? The point is if you live in a gigantic energy sucking house, you should probably shut the fuck up about telling other people they need to be more "green." I'm not surprised that this had to be spelled out for you.

Where did you get the idea that the governor of Oregon wants to legislate the energy output of homes?

This is a monumentally stupid question given the topic being discussed.

[quote]Are you putting "for the environment" in quotes because you don't believe thats an actual thing? If its not "for the environment" why else would your mythical governor who wants to legislate the energy output of homes want to do such a thing?

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Back

06-25-2019, 10:49 AM

That's a lot of words just to say "I don't wanna answer this question!"

I attempted to answer but your question made no sense. What I did answer with addresses your next question. I know its a struggle for you with all those words, letters, contexts, concepts, and definitions and all that nonsense but its really not to difficult once you get going.

How is it good for the environment?

See previous post. The house in and of itself is actually part of the environment. It is just natural materials re-purposed for shelter.

The point is if you live in a gigantic energy sucking house, you should probably shut the fuck up about telling other people they need to be more "green." I'm not surprised that this had to be spelled out for you.

Why does the amount of energy that is needed for a house at all a part of the discussion on why we should live in a sustainable way with our planet?

If you want to talk about people telling other people what to do, just on a general basis, we can talk about that. Our democracy is basically the majority telling everyone what we are going to do. Thats the most fair way we have found to live together as harmoniously as humanly possible.

Where did you get the idea that the governor of Oregon wants to legislate the energy output of homes?

This is a monumentally stupid question given the topic being discussed.

Thats a deflection. You can't answer the question because you can't back up your assertion. Show us evidence that the governor wants to "legislate the energy output of homes" and we can go from there.

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Great movie. You do know that Biff Tannon represents the dumb bully in this situation, right? That he is a symbol of ignorance and tyranny under threat of physical violence? Thats who you want to back in this?

Methais

06-25-2019, 11:10 AM

I attempted to answer but your question made no sense. What I did answer with addresses your next question. I know its a struggle for you with all those words, letters, contexts, concepts, and definitions and all that nonsense but its really not to difficult once you get going.

A gigantic 11k square foot energy sucking house, occupied by the person who apparently wants to sign legislation telling everyone else how they should be more green. I'm not surprised you don't see the hypocrisy in this, being that you're a gigantic hypocrite yourself.

See previous post. The house in and of itself is actually part of the environment. It is just natural materials re-purposed for shelter.

Coal plants are just part of the environment. Coal was here before we were. Coal and coal plants are just natural materials re-purposed for energy.

Why does the amount of energy that is needed for a house at all a part of the discussion on why we should live in a sustainable way with our planet?

If you want to talk about people telling other people what to do, just on a general basis, we can talk about that.

Now you're starting to get it. Maybe. Probably not though.

Our democracy is basically the majority telling everyone what we are going to do. Thats the most fair way we have found to live together as harmoniously as humanly possible.

We're not a democracy.

Thats a deflection. You can't answer the question because you can't back up your assertion. Show us evidence that the governor wants to "legislate the energy output of homes" and we can go from there.

It couldn't have anything to do with the fact that the governor is apparently willing to sign this Oregon green new deal or whatever buzzwords they might be using that Tgo already explained to you why it's shit. Or what do you think is in the bill instead? Mandatory tree planting?

Great movie. You do know that Biff Tannon represents the dumb bully in this situation, right? That he is a symbol of ignorance and tyranny under threat of physical violence? Thats who you want to back in this?

It represents George McFly being gullible as fuck and falling for the same stupid shit over and over. Much like you. I'm not surprised that this also needed to be spelled out for you...

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Parkbandit

06-25-2019, 11:31 AM

Do your fucking job as representatives, even if I disagree. Do your jobs. Elections have consequence.

/agree

Back

06-25-2019, 11:47 AM

A gigantic 11k square foot energy sucking house, occupied by the person who apparently wants to sign legislation telling everyone else how they should be more green. I'm not surprised you don't see the hypocrisy in this, being that you're a gigantic hypocrite yourself.

An elected Governor signing legislation created by elected legislators. Thats how our system works. If you disagree with the legislation in Oregon about living in a more sustainable way with our environment you can move there and vote.

How much energy a house uses is irrelevant to any discussion about sustainability. If you disagree please explain how it is.

Coal plants are just part of the environment. Coal was here before we were. Coal and coal plants are just natural materials re-purposed for energy.

We know more now than we used to because science. We now know that burning coal isn't the greatest idea in the world when we want to produce energy so we have found other ways to do it that don't fuck up everyone lungs, blot out the sun, and choke the atmosphere.

Now you're starting to get it. Maybe. Probably not though.

I don't get anything you're trying to argue here. At all.

We're not a democracy.

Ok, explain how we don't operate in a way that majority rules?

Thats a deflection. You can't answer the question because you can't back up your assertion. Show us evidence that the governor wants to "legislate the energy output of homes" and we can go from there.

It couldn't have anything to do with the fact that the governor is apparently willing to sign this Oregon green new deal or whatever buzzwords they might be using that Tgo already explained to you why it's shit.

Tgo went on a nonsensical rant that had nothing to do with the actual legislation being discussed. If you'd like to discuss the actual legislation that we have been talking about, be my guest. So far you haven't.

Or what do you think is in the bill instead? Mandatory tree planting?

The legislation we are talking about is fining the largest pollution producing companies and using the collected money for climate change infrastructure in native and low income areas. You know, the people who are hurt the worst by pollution and climate change.

It represents George McFly being gullible as fuck and falling for the same stupid shit over and over. Much like you. I'm not surprised that this also needed to be spelled out for you...

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The real question in this scenario is "is Biff lying about the shoelace or is he telling the truth"? Its not hard to guess that rather than being a benevolent friend warning McFly about the dangers of his unlaced shoe and good naturedly chiding him for not noticing, its pretty easy to come to the conclusion that Biff is just a violent lying asshole.

Methais

06-25-2019, 11:54 AM

An elected Governor signing legislation created by elected legislators. Thats how our system works. If you disagree with the legislation in Oregon about living in a more sustainable way with our environment you can move there and vote.

How much energy a house uses is irrelevant to any discussion about sustainability. If you disagree please explain how it is.

So you still don't understand hypocrisy. Or are turning a blind eye to it because it's a democrat. 0 people are surprised.

We know more now than we used to because science. We now know that burning coal isn't the greatest idea in the world when we want to produce energy so we have found other ways to do it that don't fuck up everyone lungs, blot out the sun, and choke the atmosphere.

Not surprised that this went right over your head...

The house in and of itself is actually part of the environment. It is just natural materials re-purposed for shelter.

I don't get anything you're trying to argue here. At all.

You don't get most things in general. This is expected and unsurprising.

Ok, explain how we don't operate in a way that majority rules?

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The legislation we are talking about is fining the largest pollution producing companies and using the collected money for climate change infrastructure in native and low income areas. You know, the people who are hurt the worst by pollution and climate change.

Which gets passed onto the consumers and affects poor people more than anyone else, as already explained to you. No one is expecting you to understand basic things like that though. We're well past that point and have been for years with you.

The real question in this scenario is "is Biff lying about the shoelace or is he telling the truth"? Its not hard to guess that rather than being a benevolent friend warning McFly about the dangers of his unlaced shoe and good naturedly chiding him for not noticing, its pretty easy to come to the conclusion that Biff is just a violent lying asshole.

None of that changes the fact that George McFly is gullible as fuck and falls for the same brain dead shit over and over. In that context, Biff is the democrat party, and McFly is the useful idiot.

Just like you.

Back

06-25-2019, 12:08 PM

So you still don't understand hypocrisy. Or are turning a blind eye to it because it's a democrat. 0 people are surprised.

I don't think you know what the fuck you're even trying to assert because you still have not explained how the energy consumption of a house is bad for the environment.

Not surprised that this went right over your head...

Oh, I know what it was. The braying of a jackass. A piss poor attempt at witty deflection that made absolutely no sense at all and wasn't even funny. You don't even get that right.

You don't get most things in general. This is expected and unsurprising.

Not sure you can claim otherwise myself. So far you have not explained anything you are trying to assert. Use your words like a grown up if you think you know how.

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Ok, a map. How the fuck does that explain your assertion that we are not a democracy?

The legislation we are talking about is fining the largest pollution producing companies and using the collected money for climate change infrastructure in native and low income areas. You know, the people who are hurt the worst by pollution and climate change.

Which gets passed onto the consumers and affects poor people more than anyone else, as already explained to you. No one is expecting you to understand basic things like that though. We're well past that point and have been for years with you.

What companies and what costs to who exactly? You are evoking often used phrases but have no specifics. Its reasonable to conclude you have less of a fuck of an idea what you are trying to explain than the people who wrote the actual legislation.

None of that changes the fact that George McFly is gullible as fuck and falls for the same brain dead shit over and over.

So you blame McFly, the victim, for Biff being a constant asshole? That makes no sense.

Just like you.

What am I falling for exactly? How am I being lied to then smacked for looking repeatedly and if so why is it my fault?

Parkbandit

06-25-2019, 12:25 PM

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Drunk Tuesday!

GO BACKLASH GO!

Parkbandit

06-25-2019, 12:27 PM

Ok, a map. How the fuck does that explain your assertion that we are not a democracy?

We aren't a democracy, we are a democratic republic. Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_republic

Fuck, how have you not been killed off by now. Darwin was fucking wrong.

Parkbandit

06-25-2019, 12:29 PM

How much energy a house uses is irrelevant to any discussion about sustainability.

If I had enough room in the Retard Hall of Fame, this would go in it.

Back

06-25-2019, 12:35 PM

If I had enough room in the Retard Hall of Fame, this would go in it.

Then explain to everyone how much energy a house uses is relevant to discussions about sustainable living. I'd really like to see what you come up with for an actual answer.

Tgo01

06-25-2019, 12:38 PM

Then explain to everyone how much energy a house uses is relevant to discussions about sustainable living. I'd really like to see what you come up with for an actual answer.

You’re not being serious right now are you?

Parkbandit

06-25-2019, 12:42 PM

Then explain to everyone how much energy a house uses is relevant to discussions about sustainable living. I'd really like to see what you come up with for an actual answer.

Let's do a mental exercise Backlash.

You live in a 700 sf house that requires 900 kWh to run per month.

I live in a 7000 sf house that requires 9000 kWh to run per month.

Methais lives in a 70000 sf house that requires 90000 kWh to run per month.

Each kWh of energy requires 1 lb of coal that is converted into electricity via steam.

Which house in my example is the most sustainable?

Parkbandit

06-25-2019, 12:43 PM

You’re not being serious right now are you?

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Gelston

06-25-2019, 12:45 PM

audioserf

06-25-2019, 01:21 PM

Then explain to everyone how much energy a house uses is relevant to discussions about sustainable living.

lmao

edit: for context, I am a leftist and a vegan one at that and I still think the sentence I quoted is insane

Methais

06-25-2019, 01:29 PM

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Drunk Tuesday!

GO BACKLASH GO!

Holy fuck I forgot it was Tuesday. This explains everything.

I don't think you know what the fuck you're even trying to assert because you still have not explained how the energy consumption of a house is bad for the environment.

Before I answer, I need some clarification. Is the energy consumption of a house good for the environment?

Oh, I know what it was. The braying of a jackass. A piss poor attempt at witty deflection that made absolutely no sense at all and wasn't even funny. You don't even get that right. Except you did and I'm just too stupid to understand it so instead I get triggered and rage out.

This is correct.

Ok, a map. How the fuck does that explain your assertion that we are not a democracy?

Because we're not. We're a democratic republic. If we were a straight majority rules democracy like you said, Hillary winning the popular vote would have made her president.

So you blame McFly, the victim, for Biff being a constant asshole? That makes no sense.

I blame McFly for being gullible as fuck and falling for the same obvious shit over and over. Just like you do.

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me 54372890432 times, call me Backlash."

What am I falling for exactly? How am I being lied to then smacked for looking repeatedly and if so why is it my fault?

If you still haven't gotten your head out of your ass after all these years and still blindly buy all the stupid shit the left sells you, you're never going to. That's why everyone considers you a useful idiot.

On an unrelated note, I bet you really believe Biden will cure cancer too.

Methais' because he is obviously richer and you poor fuckers need the shut the fuck up.

Being black has its perks.

Parkbandit

06-25-2019, 04:53 PM

Fuck. Today had so much promise... and I think Backlash passed out.

Back

06-25-2019, 07:06 PM

Let's do a mental exercise Backlash.

You live in a 700 sf house that requires 900 kWh to run per month.

I live in a 7000 sf house that requires 9000 kWh to run per month.

Methais lives in a 70000 sf house that requires 90000 kWh to run per month.

Each kWh of energy requires 1 lb of coal that is converted into electricity via steam.

Which house in my example is the most sustainable?

Energy consumption is not the issue. Energy production is.

Not all energy comes from coal. There are sustainable sources in use right now. Solar, wind, hydro, and even geothermal.

A government of the people for the people will help us enact legislation that will move us from obsolete energy production methods towards clean and sustainable energy production methods for the benefit of everyone.

11 people walked out of a state capital to prevent that. A governor used their power to recall them for it. Militia made threats and the state police closed down the state capitol over what they thought was a credible threat against those who are trying to enact the legislation so they, and we by extension, can have a cleaner, better future. Thats a whole lot of bullshit right there.

Tgo01

06-25-2019, 07:12 PM

Energy consumption is not the issue. Energy production is.

Not all energy comes from coal. There are sustainable sources in use right now. Solar, wind, hydro, and even geothermal.

Come on, Back. I gave you the benefit of the doubt yesterday that you weren't born yesterday, but now I'm beginning to wonder.

Gelston

06-25-2019, 07:20 PM

Energy consumption is not the issue. Energy production is.
.

Have you ever heard of supply and demand? Without demand, less is supplied. There will be less production if there is less consumption. Are you really that fucking stupid?

Gelston

06-25-2019, 07:23 PM

And really, we need to just invest heavily into nuclear anyways.

Astray

06-25-2019, 07:30 PM

Energy consumption is not the issue. Energy production is.

Jesus Christ.

Suppa Hobbit Mage

06-25-2019, 08:28 PM

Holy shit. I got to training for two days and Back quadruple downs on retardation.

Seriously, see my other note about his mental health... surely no one can be this willfully ignorant, so it must be some sort of mental issue. Right?

~Rocktar~

06-25-2019, 09:14 PM

We aren't a democracy, we are a democratic republic. Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_republic

Fuck, how have you not been killed off by now. Darwin was fucking wrong.

Darwin was right. The issue is, artificial influences obstructing natural law, things like EMTs, the laws against killing people "Because they needed killin" and so on.

Holy shit. I got to training for two days and Back quadruple downs on retardation.

Seriously, see my other note about his mental health... surely no one can be this willfully ignorant, so it must be some sort of mental issue. Right?

Willful or not, everything Back says and does backs up substantial mental issues that are so great that I don't think the human body can withstand enough Thorazine or Lithium to effectively treat them.

Parkbandit

06-26-2019, 08:47 AM

Energy consumption is not the issue. Energy production is.

Do you know what the word "sustainable" even means?

Not all energy comes from coal. There are sustainable sources in use right now. Solar, wind, hydro, and even geothermal.

In 2018, 63.5% of electricity is generated by fossil fuels. Coal made up almost half of that.

Solar was 1.6%
Wind was 6.6%
Hydro was 7%
Geothermal was .4%

Now... back to our mental exercise: Which home is more sustainable?

Or are you going to virtue signal your way out of recognizing you were dumb and wrong as usual?

A government of the people for the people will help us enact legislation that will move us from obsolete energy production methods towards clean and sustainable energy production methods for the benefit of everyone.

Why do you require government for that?

11 people walked out of a state capital to prevent that. A governor used their power to recall them for it. Militia made threats and the state police closed down the state capitol over what they thought was a credible threat against those who are trying to enact the legislation so they, and we by extension, can have a cleaner, better future.

I believe the dumbest of us all had the best response to this:

Thats a whole lot of bullshit right there.

Methais

06-27-2019, 09:13 AM

When it comes to everything I say, thats a whole lot of bullshit right there.

This is correct.

Suppa Hobbit Mage

06-27-2019, 09:18 AM

On topic. Jussie searched his own name 50 times after his fake self inflicted hate crime. What a narcissist.

Tgo01

06-27-2019, 12:45 PM

On topic. Jussie searched his own name 50 times after his fake self inflicted hate crime. What a narcissist.

Can’t imagine why the police thought he faked it.

Back

07-05-2019, 07:58 PM

In 2018, 63.5% of electricity is generated by fossil fuels. Coal made up almost half of that.

Solar was 1.6%
Wind was 6.6%
Hydro was 7%
Geothermal was .4%

We are only on the cusp of where we need to be. Coal and oil served their purposes but we now know we need to find cleaner energy. The sun isn't going out soon so there is unlimited energy for us that we need to harness.

Now... back to our mental exercise: Which home is more sustainable?

If you take two identical homes there are going to be variances in how the people who live there use energy. If one of those two houses had 1 LED lightbulb more than the other the one with the LED would be using less energy.

But you aren't really interested in discussion or debate. You're stuck with the stupid "if you believe in helping the environment you should be living in a cave" argument.

Why do you require government for that?

Because unbridled capitalism will eat everything until nothing is left.

But mainly because government is already intertwined into our energy production anyway. Oil companies get massive subsidies. This administration is taking a stance of denying climate science which I think it a crime against humanity.

All of this is besides the point. 11 republicans walked out on their state legislature when the majority wanted to pass legislation that is a solution to a better future. Then militias made threats that shut down a state capitol. Thats bullshit.

Ashlander

07-06-2019, 04:09 PM

If you take two identical homes there are going to be variances in how the people who live there use energy. If one of those two houses had 1 LED lightbulb more than the other the one with the LED would be using less energy.

That wasn't the question dumbass.

Astray

07-06-2019, 04:13 PM

That wasn't the question dumbass.

No but if you have two identical homes, someone can just install an LED and boom, he's saving the world.

On a side note, what's that word mean? The one I highlighted.

Parkbandit

07-06-2019, 05:28 PM

We are only on the cusp of where we need to be. Coal and oil served their purposes but we now know we need to find cleaner energy. The sun isn't going out soon so there is unlimited energy for us that we need to harness.

You do realize that 2018 was just last year.. right?

If you take two identical homes there are going to be variances in how the people who live there use energy. If one of those two houses had 1 LED lightbulb more than the other the one with the LED would be using less energy.

What? You do realize that literally you said that energy consumption has nothing to do with energy sustainability... right?

So, instead of answering the most simple question... you made up a completely different scenario...

But you aren't really interested in discussion or debate. You're stuck with the stupid "if you believe in helping the environment you should be living in a cave" argument.

No. I was merely attempting to answer your question:

"Explain to everyone how much energy a house uses is relevant to discussions about sustainable living."

You were the only one who was having difficulty with this concept. It still looks like you are completely lost.

Because unbridled capitalism will eat everything until nothing is left.

Where do we have "unbridled capitalism" in this country? You do realize we have government regulations.. right?

But mainly because government is already intertwined into our energy production anyway. Oil companies get massive subsidies. This administration is taking a stance of denying climate science which I think it a crime against humanity.

I bolded the part where you went off the rails... even further than normal. You really are a living example of why Darwin was wrong.

What type of home do you live in Backlash? What are you specifically doing to not adding to the problem? Do you still own a vehicle? Or are you just one of those typical "Do as I say, not as I do" liberals?

And just so you know.. I live in a certified energy saving home where I use only LED lights, have a 22 SEER AC unit, radiant barrier, R48 insulation, sealed ductwork, energy efficient windows, etc...

And given that I own and operate an energy conservation company for the past 14 years... I live with a negative carbon footprint. What's your carbon footprint looking like these days?

All of this is besides the point. 11 republicans walked out on their state legislature when the majority wanted to pass legislation that is a solution to a better future. Then militias made threats that shut down a state capitol. Thats bullshit.

I don't remember you having such an issue when the same exact thing happened in Wisconsin. Oh wait.. the politicians that walked out were Democrats... which is why you didn't find a problem with it.

Parkbandit

07-06-2019, 05:39 PM

No but if you have two identical homes, someone can just install an LED and boom, he's saving the world.

On a side note, what's that word mean? The one I highlighted.

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Astray

07-06-2019, 05:56 PM

None of those homes have solar panels or wind turbines, deported to Mexico for crimes against nature.

Gelston

07-06-2019, 05:57 PM

None of those homes have solar panels or wind turbines, deported to Mexico for crimes against nature.

Stop trying to send people to your homeland. No one wants to live there.

Astray

07-06-2019, 05:58 PM

Stop trying to send people to your homeland. No one wants to live there.

Fuck, tell me about it. That place is nasty as fuck.

Methais

07-07-2019, 02:05 PM

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Insert theme song for Weeds that I’m too lazy to link.

Also, this is for you Back, you rebel you:

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Back

07-07-2019, 09:43 PM

You do realize that 2018 was just last year.. right?

What? You do realize that literally you said that energy consumption has nothing to do with energy sustainability... right?

So, instead of answering the most simple question... you made up a completely different scenario...

No. I was merely attempting to answer your question:

"Explain to everyone how much energy a house uses is relevant to discussions about sustainable living."

You were the only one who was having difficulty with this concept. It still looks like you are completely lost.

Where do we have "unbridled capitalism" in this country? You do realize we have government regulations.. right?

I bolded the part where you went off the rails... even further than normal. You really are a living example of why Darwin was wrong.

What type of home do you live in Backlash? What are you specifically doing to not adding to the problem? Do you still own a vehicle? Or are you just one of those typical "Do as I say, not as I do" liberals?

And just so you know.. I live in a certified energy saving home where I use only LED lights, have a 22 SEER AC unit, radiant barrier, R48 insulation, sealed ductwork, energy efficient windows, etc...

And given that I own and operate an energy conservation company for the past 14 years... I live with a negative carbon footprint. What's your carbon footprint looking like these days?

I don't remember you having such an issue when the same exact thing happened in Wisconsin. Oh wait.. the politicians that walked out were Democrats... which is why you didn't find a problem with it.

Thats great. Really proud of you. I'm not even going to ask for proof and take your word for it.

The exact same thing did not happen in Wisconsin. Politicians walked on a different issue and the capitol did not get shut down because of threats from American militia. Thanks for playing.

Gelston

07-07-2019, 09:47 PM

Thats great. Really proud of you. I'm not even going to ask for proof and take your word for it.

The exact same thing did not happen in Wisconsin. Politicians walked on a different issue and the capitol did not get shut down because of threats from American militia. Thanks for playing.

You're not a very smart man.

Astray

07-07-2019, 10:15 PM

Back is ensuring that his title goes nowhere. As any champion, moron or not, would.

Neveragain

07-08-2019, 05:08 AM

Politicians walked on a different issue and the capitol did not get shut down because of threats from American militia.

The question everyone is thinking but won't ask, was it the metal militia?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlxEejhHfr8

But in all seriousness. Sounds like the militia is needed in Oregon, antifa just nearly killed a reporter while the government ran police force did nothing.

Parkbandit

07-08-2019, 08:23 AM

Thats great. Really proud of you. I'm not even going to ask for proof and take your word for it.

Which part do you need proof for? That last year was 2018? That any discussion about energy sustainability revolves around energy consumption? That we don't have "unbridled capitalism"? That you really are a living example why Darwin was wrong? That I live in a certified energy saving home? That you are a typical virtue signalling liberal?

Be specific on what you require proof of.

The exact same thing did not happen in Wisconsin. Politicians walked on a different issue and the capitol did not get shut down because of threats from American militia. Thanks for playing.

What part of what happened in Oregon are you wringing your hands about that is different than what happened in Wisconsin?

Methais

07-08-2019, 10:18 AM

You're not a very smart man.

Back is a woman you bigot.

Reported for misgendering.

Neveragain

07-14-2019, 11:29 AM

Shaun King calls for the liberation of Ice detention centers:

Armed Antifa Fire Bombs ICE Facility, Is Shot And Killed By Police

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNQR6kAHSdI

Astray

07-14-2019, 11:46 AM

If it were Portland he would've got a funeral fit for a king and the officers would be publicly shamed and fired.

Neveragain

07-14-2019, 11:58 AM

If it were Portland he would've got a funeral fit for a king and the officers would be publicly shamed and fired.

It really looks like we are at the point of no return now. I'd bet the bank that we see an open shootout between political activists by the end of the year.

Astray

07-14-2019, 12:03 PM

It really looks like we are at the point of no return now. I'd bet the bank that we see an open shootout between political activists by the end of the year.

We are likely going to see an 'armed uprising' from Antifa. It'll result entirely in them getting waffle stomped down the drain but not before they do enough damage to some cities to call for the National Guard. At which point, every insane leftist is going to be backing them verbally. I would hate, absolutely hate, to be in law enforcement right now.

~Rocktar~

07-14-2019, 12:14 PM

I thought they were all going to storm Area 51 and get gunned down with no remorse and the Federal Law on the side of security there. Or who knows, we might get to see phaser rifles in action or maybe the new T200 terminators they are developing.

</only slight scarcasm>

I do agree, there is likely going to be bad or worse to come and good people will have to stand up and defeat Socialism and Totalitarianism again and a lot of people in cities will get hurt.

Back

07-14-2019, 01:49 PM

Tgo01

07-14-2019, 02:05 PM

Immigrant raids, concentration camps for asylum seekers, splitting up detainee families, and a president telling democratically elected US women of color to go back to their own crime-ridden countries.

Thats a whole lot of white racist bullshit right there.

Oh hey look, it's the guy who defends Nazi sympathizers then thinks anyone takes his white racist bullshit seriously.

Go back to jerking off to pictures of Hitler, you worthless tool.

Astray

07-14-2019, 02:13 PM

Shocker to nobody but the Antifa member that assaulted the ICE building had a previous assault record.

Tgo01

07-14-2019, 02:19 PM

Shocker to nobody but the Antifa member that assaulted the ICE building had a previous assault record.

The problem is even Democrats used to be decent people prior to the 2016 election cycle so they would call out violent fascists. Now most Democrats are either too scared to speak out against Antifa or are okay with their violence because Antifa is attacking people they don't like. So now every crazy person with no life is seen as a hero so of course they are going to put on masks and attack people, it's the closest thing to an accomplishment and recognition they'll ever get in their life.

If Democrats just stop sitting on the sidelines and pretending this isn't happening then things might start to change, but until then these assholes will just continue to feel emboldened by despicable wastes of spaces such as Back.

Neveragain

07-14-2019, 02:19 PM

Immigrant raids, concentration camps for asylum seekers, splitting up detainee families, and a president telling democratically elected US women of color to go back to their own crime-ridden countries.

Thats a whole lot of white racist bullshit right there.

Yet no problem with fire bombing the detention center that houses the "asylum seekers" that are hiking hundreds of miles through deserts to enter said "concentration camps".

Nothing said freeing the jews like fire bombing the concentration camps........................

Astray

07-14-2019, 02:29 PM

Yet no problem with fire bombing the detention center

They were fortunate the propane tank didn't rupture.

Neveragain

07-14-2019, 02:37 PM

They were fortunate the propane tank didn't rupture.

Wasn't it Back that was concerned with the Oregon militia shutting down a government building over threatening phone calls. Obviously they should have fire bombed the capitol, it would have been the moral thing to do.

Tgo01

07-14-2019, 02:38 PM

Wasn't it Back that was concerned with the Oregon militia shutting down a government building over threatening phone calls. Obviously they should have fire bombed the capitol, it would have been the moral thing to do.

To be fair you can't expect consistency from someone who defends Nazi sympathizers as long as they are Democrats then accuse all Republicans of being white supremacists. Back's feeble mind can't handle difficult concepts.

Neveragain

07-14-2019, 02:48 PM

Antifa liberating the "concentration camps":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHYL-uiLJ14

Wrathbringer

07-14-2019, 05:15 PM

Alfster

07-14-2019, 07:28 PM

The problem is even Democrats used to be decent people prior to the 2016 election cycle so they would call out violent fascists. Now most Democrats are either too scared to speak out against Antifa or are okay with their violence because Antifa is attacking people they don't like. So now every crazy person with no life is seen as a hero so of course they are going to put on masks and attack people, it's the closest thing to an accomplishment and recognition they'll ever get in their life.

If Democrats just stop sitting on the sidelines and pretending this isn't happening then things might start to change, but until then these assholes will just continue to feel emboldened by despicable wastes of spaces such as Back.

This shit is happening on both far extremes. Remember the MAGA bomber?

That being said. Both extremes are full of retards. Uniting the country needs to be a top priority. So much anger and rage over the stupidest shit these days. Your attitude is part of the problem. It's not just Dems, it's repubs too.

Parkbandit

07-14-2019, 07:31 PM

This shit is happening on both far extremes. Remember the MAGA bomber?

That being said. Both extremes are full of retards. Uniting the country needs to be a top priority. So much anger and rage over the stupidest shit these days. Your attitude is part of the problem. It's not just Dems, it's repubs too.

But, it's mostly your side that has all the faux outrage.

Admitting it is the first step in solving it.

Tgo01

07-14-2019, 07:48 PM

This shit is happening on both far extremes. Remember the MAGA bomber?

"MAGA" bomber who didn't injure anyone from what I recall, compared to hundreds of "protesters" rushing a federal building and taking down the American flag and replacing it with the Mexican flag, and another lone psychopath firebombing another federal facility while armed with a rifle that had to be shot and killed, not to mention the Bernie supporter who targeted and shot several Republicans at a charity baseball game.

Fuck off with this false equivalency bullshit. I get it, you hate Trump, don't let that cloud your better judgement and look at the absolute lunacy of the left since 2016 and brush it all off by saying "Meh, Republicans are doing it too."

I didn't even mention a group of violent fascist thugs attacking a gay Asian journalist and sending him to the hospital with bleeding on the brain, nor the same group attacking an elderly man with a fucking crowbar.

"BuT ReMeMbEr ThE MaGa BomBeR??!?!?!?"

And yet every step of the way Democrats demand Republicans apologize for this shit, all the way the left continues to pretend their side's shit smells like roses.

Charlottesville: OMG! Trump! Apologize for that crazy person!
Trump: I won't apologize but white supremacists and white nationalists should be condemned totally. But there were bad people on both sides.
Media and the left: OMG! Trump is saying BOTH sides had Nazis!

ICE detention centers attacked: OMG! Trump said something mean on Twitter! Let's focus on that instead of the crazy leftist nutbags!!!! Remember the MAGA bomber!!!

Gelston

07-14-2019, 07:55 PM

I see people calling him a hero and all that. At least we condemned the MAGA bomber.

Astray

07-14-2019, 07:57 PM

Yeah, I've seen people calling that Antifa dude as a 'true' freedom fighter. Which is extremely alarming because his attack could have killed tons of innocent people. The very people he wanted to 'liberate'.

Neveragain

07-14-2019, 07:58 PM

How can you call him the MAGA bomber when they weren't bombs?

Gelston

07-14-2019, 07:58 PM

https://i.ibb.co/WDWVCtb/2019-07-14-2.png

Tgo01

07-14-2019, 07:59 PM

"BuT rEmEmEr ThE MaGa BoMbEr?"

Neveragain

07-14-2019, 07:59 PM

Tgo01

07-14-2019, 08:06 PM

Attacking a federal building with innocent civilians in it for the purpose of trying to get the government to change its policies is the literal definition of terrorism. Instead of calling this man a deplorable terrorist fucking Democrat pieces of shit are calling him a hero and want statues and songs written about him.

"But remember the MAGA 'bomber'?!?!?"

Back

07-14-2019, 08:06 PM

Yet no problem with fire bombing the detention center that houses the "asylum seekers" that are hiking hundreds of miles through deserts to enter said "concentration camps".

Nothing said freeing the jews like fire bombing the concentration camps........................

Who said I had no problem with fire bombing the detention center? I absolutely do have a problem with that. From what I read the guy had a suicide wish. I won't say he deserved to die but if you go around fire bombing government facilities its reasonable to expect to catch a bullet or two.

Tgo01

07-14-2019, 08:07 PM

I won't say he deserved to die

You are so worthless.

Astray

07-14-2019, 08:10 PM

Hell, their calling for more.

I mean, they are gonna get their wish. Martial Law is going to be declared in the cities where they attack the ICE buildings. Armed soldiers are going to be forced to open fire on the crowds of Antifa rioters and lots of people who were brainwashed into believing the bullshit are going to die.

But like, y'know, orange man bad.

Back

07-14-2019, 08:11 PM

https://i.ibb.co/WDWVCtb/2019-07-14-2.png

Don't take his actions, or a bunch of comments on Twitter, as representative of the entire democratic party. We don't know who all those comments came from or even if they are sincere.

Tgo01

07-14-2019, 08:13 PM

Don't take his actions, or a bunch of comments on Twitter, as representative of the entire democratic party. We don't know who all those comments came from or even if they are sincere.

It's Facebook, where people's names are displayed on their comments. While sure some of those accounts might be fake, we're not talking about Twitter where it's so easy to just have a throw away account with a fake name. Why do you consistently engage in gaslighting while praising Nazi sympathizers?

Back

07-14-2019, 08:14 PM

Facebook, Twitter, whatever.

Believe 10% of what you hear, 50% of what you read, and 90% of what you see with your own eyes.

Suppa Hobbit Mage

07-14-2019, 08:14 PM

It really looks like we are at the point of no return now. I'd bet the bank that we see an open shootout between political activists by the end of the year.

I hope so, I'm tired of the left pouring gas on a fire and not expecting to get burnt.

Tgo01

07-14-2019, 08:15 PM

Believe 10% of what you hear, 50% of what you read, and 90% of what you see with your own eyes.

Is that like when you saw with your own eyes AOC defending a Nazi sympathizer and you went out of your way to also defend said Nazi sympathizer? Or is this now where you engage in more gaslighting and pretend you never did that?

Suppa Hobbit Mage

07-14-2019, 08:17 PM

Hell, their calling for more.

and why conceal carry is so important in these times.

Astray

07-14-2019, 08:19 PM

and why conceal carry is so important in these times.

Yup.

Back

07-14-2019, 08:28 PM

Is that like when you saw with your own eyes AOC defending a Nazi sympathizer and you went out of your way to also defend said Nazi sympathizer? Or is this now where you engage in more gaslighting and pretend you never did that?

We disagree over whether Evita Peron was anti-semetic and desired the extermination of the jews. We definitely disagree over the importance of something that happened on Twitter last week.

You are absolutely making connections where there are none that furthers your conspiratorial views of hidden enemies that are out to get you.

Tgo01

07-14-2019, 08:33 PM

We disagree over whether Evita Peron was anti-semetic and desired the extermination of the jews.

My God.

We have gotten to the point where Democrats openly defend Nazi Sympathizers and don't feel a bit of shame in doing so.

At this rate Democrats will be holocaust deniers within the next 4 years.

Neveragain

07-14-2019, 08:35 PM

and why conceal carry is so important in these times.

It's always been important for the individual to have the ability to defend themselves and always will be important.

Gelston

07-14-2019, 08:36 PM

Facebook, Twitter, whatever.

Believe 10% of what you hear, 50% of what you read, and 90% of what you see with your own eyes.

So, believing 50% of what I read, tons of liberal people are still calling this murderous lunatic a fucking hero.

Back

07-14-2019, 08:39 PM

So, believing 50% of what I read, tons of liberal people are still calling this murderous lunatic a fucking hero.

I would put FB and Twitter squarely in the "what you hear" category.

You're a dense fuck, but even you realize that people on the internet just say shit just to say shit, right?

Tgo01

07-14-2019, 08:40 PM

You're a dense fuck, but even you realize that people on the internet just say shit just to say shit, right?

Is this you trying to walkback your support for a Nazi Sympathizer?

Neveragain

07-14-2019, 08:40 PM

So, believing 50% of what I read, tons of liberal people are still calling this murderous lunatic a fucking hero.

Has a single Democrat candidate condemned this yet? I honestly don't know, I haven't watched broadcast television in years now.

Suppa Hobbit Mage

07-14-2019, 08:42 PM

Has a single Democrat candidate condemned this yet? I honestly don't know, I haven't watched broadcast television in years now.

I just scanned the news and I don't see a thing about it.

Neveragain

07-14-2019, 08:50 PM

I just scanned the news and I don't see a thing about it.

I kind of figured that was the case.

Back

07-14-2019, 09:02 PM

Has a single Democrat candidate condemned this yet? I honestly don't know, I haven't watched broadcast television in years now.

Why assume consent in the absence of condemnation? That sounds like you are judging someone guilty without evidence.

Gelston

07-14-2019, 09:07 PM

Why assume consent in the absence of condemnation? That sounds like you are judging someone guilty without evidence.

Why do you assume that is what he is doing? Why are you a massive scum sucking retard?

Suppa Hobbit Mage

07-14-2019, 09:11 PM

Why do you assume that is what he is doing? Why are you a massive scum sucking retard?

I can't believe he stated "judging someone guilty without evidence" without bursting into flames.

Russia? Kavanaugh? any of the hundreds of other things associated with Trump that literally no proof exists of?

Tgo01

07-14-2019, 09:15 PM

Why assume consent in the absence of condemnation? That sounds like you are judging someone guilty without evidence.

You are a giant sack of shit. You are quickly becoming worse than Androidpk, and I didn't even think that were possible.

Back

07-14-2019, 09:16 PM

I can't believe he stated "judging someone guilty without evidence" without bursting into flames.

Russia? Kavanaugh? any of the hundreds of other things associated with Trump that literally no proof exists of?

I can address any point you want to try to make.

Russia. What specifically? Facts show they purposely meddled in our election in favor of Trump.

Kavenaugh. My opinion is that it was he said, she said, and I believed her over him. Still do.

~Rocktar~

07-14-2019, 09:21 PM

Why assume consent in the absence of condemnation? That sounds like you are judging someone guilty without evidence.

Your comments on Charlottesville, your comments on Kavanaugh, your comments on Trump collusion, your comments on the Covington High School students incident, your comments on Trump meeting Putin, your comments on Antifa, the list goes on and on and on. You are a massively hypocritical racist and you should reflect on your life and what bad decisions have gotten you to the point where you support Socialism, Totalitarianism and Racism over America.

Gelston

07-14-2019, 09:28 PM

I would put FB and Twitter squarely in the "what you hear" category.

You're a dense fuck, but even you realize that people on the internet just say shit just to say shit, right?

You're a fucking retard. You literally said "What you read". You don't listen to FB do you? No. You read it.

Gelston

07-14-2019, 09:30 PM

You are a giant sack of shit. You are quickly becoming worse than Androidpk, and I didn't even think that were possible.

Pk was bad because he was a dumbass thief. Back is a retard because he is just retarded. Pk is still the lesser, at least Back hasn't stolen shit from anyone, that I know of.

Tgo01

07-14-2019, 09:31 PM

Pk was bad because he was a dumbass thief. Back is a retard because he is just retarded. Pk is still the lesser, at least Back hasn't stolen shit from anyone, that I know of.

True, but defending Nazi sympathizers is pretty shitty.

Gelston

07-14-2019, 09:32 PM

True, but defending Nazi sympathizers is pretty shitty.

I imagine if Pk still posted here, he'd be doing the same thing though.

Astray

07-14-2019, 09:34 PM

At least the rest of the idiots had the common decency of bowing out when they were proven wrong. Back is just too fucking stupid.

Back

07-14-2019, 09:39 PM

You're a fucking retard. You literally said "What you read". You don't listen to FB do you? No. You read it.

Its an old saying from before the internet. I'd update it this way...

Believe 10% of what you hear and read in the comments section of the internet, 50% of what you read from print or web media, and 90% of what you see with your own eyeballs.

Gelston

07-14-2019, 09:41 PM

Its an old saying from before the internet. I'd update it this way...

Believe 10% of what you hear and read in the comments section of the internet, 50% of what you read from print or web media, and 90% of what you see with your own eyeballs.

I bet if it was a right leaning terrorist attack and Conservatives were calling him a hero you'd be all over it saying how evil the right is.

Wrathbringer

07-14-2019, 09:50 PM

Its an old saying from before the internet. I'd update it this way...

Believe 10% of what you hear and read in the comments section of the internet, 50% of what you read from print or web media, and 90% of what you see with your own eyeballs.

Back...I'm starting to think that not only were you born retarded, but that you also were involved in some kind of accident that rendered you doubly retarded and then had a stroke that doubled your retardation again, leaving you 4x as retarded as the average tard. It's the only explanation that makes sense at this point.

Back

07-14-2019, 09:52 PM

I bet if it was a right leaning terrorist attack and Conservatives were calling him a hero you'd be all over it saying how evil the right is.

I can't help it if you sit around trying to think up scenarios where you feel justified to hate imaginary people. All I can do is tell you its all in your head.

Tgo01

07-14-2019, 09:52 PM

Back...I'm starting to think that not only were you born retarded, but that you also were involved in some kind of accident that rendered you doubly retarded and then had a stroke that doubled your retardation again, leaving you 4x as retarded as the average tard. It's the only explanation that makes sense at this point.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Wrathbringer again.

Gelston

07-14-2019, 09:57 PM

I can't help it if you sit around trying to think up scenarios where you feel justified to hate imaginary people. All I can do is tell you its all in your head.

So you aren't real? Ok, go away then.

Neveragain

07-14-2019, 10:06 PM

I can't help it if you sit around trying to think up scenarios where you feel justified to hate imaginary people. All I can do is tell you its all in your head.

Is that like using the term "MAGA bomber" when they were imaginary bombs?

Wrathbringer

07-14-2019, 10:07 PM

I can't help it if you sit around trying to think up scenarios where you feel justified to hate imaginary people. All I can do is tell you its all in your head.

Your retardechlorian count is off the charts. Like, more than Retard Master pk. I'm genuinely frightened at your potential and am sure it will not be long before the Retard Council grants you the rank of Master.

Gelston

07-15-2019, 04:21 AM

https://scontent.fmem1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/66834986_2837180146309001_8876161228469174272_n.jp g?_nc_cat=106&_nc_oc=AQnipbHcmj8jPh9xkKoB8sr1G_ZomiDOp5tUl7v9Pa_ Vfz6JFqAJCBN5EsuworM0QqZBMPXVhFIeXCbxbE1EWg8u&_nc_ht=scontent.fmem1-1.fna&oh=59d1b62988e0ea4cd07aa6e7319cb022&oe=5DB08D94

Tgo01

07-15-2019, 04:42 AM

BuT wHaT aBoUt ThE MaGa BoMbEr?

Parkbandit

07-15-2019, 08:21 AM

You're a dense fuck, but even you realize that people on the internet just say shit just to say shit, right?

So, in real life, you really aren't a retarded liberal regurgitating talking points to pretend you are edgy and cool?

Alfster

07-15-2019, 11:13 AM

Fuck off with this false equivalency bullshit. I get it, you hate Trump, don't let that cloud your better judgement and look at the absolute lunacy of the left since 2016 and brush it all off by saying "Meh, Republicans are doing it too."!

What I'm saying has no bearing on how I feel about Trump. I'm not placing blame on him, I'm not even tying this to him.

We're at a place where the far extremes of both sides have become a fear mongering cesspool and a time bomb waiting to go off.

You keep referring to me as a Democrat, but I've voted nearly exclusively for Republicans my entire life.

Methais

07-15-2019, 11:36 AM

Immigrant raids

You forgot to include ILLEGAL. Why is that? Dumbass.

concentration camps for asylum seekers

If they want to seek asylum they can do it at the port of entry. Jumping the border isn't asylum seeking. Dumbass.

splitting up detainee families

You mean just like when a US citizen gets arrested for a crime? Dumbass.

and a president telling democratically elected US women of color to go back to their own crime-ridden countries.

If they think America is such a horrible place, they they should. Dumbass.

Thats a whole lot of white racist bullshit right there.

No it isn't, and you're a retarded virtue signaling useful idiot.

Back

07-15-2019, 11:43 AM

You forgot to include ILLEGAL. Why is that? Dumbass.

If they want to seek asylum they can do it at the port of entry. Jumping the border isn't asylum seeking. Dumbass.

You mean just like when a US citizen gets arrested for a crime? Dumbass.

If they think America is such a horrible place, they they should. Dumbass.

No it isn't, and you're a retarded virtue signaling useful idiot.

Thanks for bringing the thread back to what I originally posted about instead of deflecting with debates on what happened on Twitter last week.

It is exactly white racist bullshit. Plenty of people have criticisms of the government and how it should work but Trump doesn't go around telling them all to move back to their own countries that are corrupt and crime ridden.

These women are US citizens that have been duly elected by our democratic process. The only reason he has singled them out is because they are women and women of color.

Its very clear why Trump is the PC hate squad's hero though.

Methais

07-15-2019, 11:52 AM

Antifa liberating the "concentration camps":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHYL-uiLJ14

Actual footage of Back resisting white supremacy from said video:

https://i.imgur.com/x2dn3V0.png

Methais

07-15-2019, 12:00 PM

This shit is happening on both far extremes. Remember the MAGA bomber?

That being said. Both extremes are full of retards. Uniting the country needs to be a top priority. So much anger and rage over the stupidest shit these days. Your attitude is part of the problem. It's not just Dems, it's repubs too.

The part you keep ignoring is how the fringe left has become the mainstream left, and the fringe right is at least so far still not the mainstream right.

Methais

07-15-2019, 12:03 PM

https://i.ibb.co/WDWVCtb/2019-07-14-2.png

Back's hero.

Methais

07-15-2019, 12:05 PM

I would put FB and Twitter squarely in the "what you hear" category.

You're a dense fuck, but even you realize that people on the internet just say shit just to say shit, right?

Like when they put "Resist white supremacy." as their sig in a 30 year old text game forum?

You're a dense fuck.

Methais

07-15-2019, 12:06 PM

Why assume consent in the absence of condemnation? That sounds like you are judging someone guilty without evidence.

Remember when you called Kavanaugh a rapist?

Methais

07-15-2019, 12:09 PM

Your comments on Charlottesville, your comments on Kavanaugh, your comments on Trump collusion, your comments on the Covington High School students incident, your comments on Trump meeting Putin, your comments on Antifa, the list goes on and on and on. You are a massively hypocritical racist and you should reflect on your life and what bad decisions have gotten you to the point where you support Socialism, Totalitarianism and Racism over America.

This is correct x98727842482498236948234

Back, fuck you.

Methais

07-15-2019, 12:11 PM

I imagine if Pk still posted here, he'd be doing the same thing though.

Let's still take a moment to appreciate the fact that pk fucked off though.

https://s33.postimg.cc/p8smiy83j/ezgif-1-7918c9a956.gif

Methais

07-15-2019, 12:20 PM

Thanks for bringing the thread back to what I originally posted about instead of deflecting with debates on what happened on Twitter last week.

It is exactly white racist bullshit. Plenty of people have criticisms of the government and how it should work but Trump doesn't go around telling them all to move back to their own countries that are corrupt and crime ridden.

These women are US citizens that have been duly elected by our democratic process. The only reason he has singled them out is because they are women and women of color.

Its very clear why Trump is the PC hate squad's hero though.

You really do get more retarded every day. Where is the ceiling? How high does the tard ceiling go?

There's no point in explaining how and why you're wrong, because you're too stupid to understand it. Even your own side knows you're this stupid.

But please keep entertaining us with your massive amounts of retardedness though. Pretty sure you're the last huge tard on here who posts regularly. The rest realized how stupid they are and fucked off.

Back

07-15-2019, 12:44 PM

You really do get more retarded every day. Where is the ceiling? How high does the tard ceiling go?

There's no point in explaining how and why you're wrong, because you're too stupid to understand it. Even your own side knows you're this stupid.

But please keep entertaining us with your massive amounts of retardedness though. Pretty sure you're the last huge tard on here who posts regularly. The rest realized how stupid they are and fucked off.

Someone has to call out the hate squad in this community so we all know who you are. :lol::lol::lol: