Things that you have taken seriously today (Political version)

[Gelston]

Here Back, I made this thread just for you.

[Taernath]

When Ratolin threatened to burn peoples' houses down

Not political, but what are you gonna do about it Mr. Streamer?

[Gelston]

When Ratolin threatened to burn peoples' houses down

Not political, but what are you gonna do about it Mr. Streamer?

I'll reach out to my multitude of follower (4 of them) and things will get done.

[Taernath]

I'll reach out to my multitude of follower (4 of them) and things will get done.

At least 25% of your followers are me.

[Wrathbringer]

When pk said he was going to have his lawyer subpoena a few ip's.

[Gelston]

At least 25% of your followers are me.

Oh good, it'll make it easier when I tell them all to do things to you, because you are right there already and can do things to yourself.

[Taernath]

Oh good, it'll make it easier when I tell them all to do things to you, because you are right there already and can do things to yourself.

me not that kind of orc

[Gelston]

me not that kind of orc

I'm pretty sure one of my followers is a bot, so it is on you if you want to deal with robots.

[Gelston]

This thread almost never gets used. No one takes politics seriously. :(

[Tgo01]

I don't recall this thread at all. It should be used more.

[Methais]

I don't recall this thread at all. It should be used more.

Probably because the whole thread lasted 52 minutes. :(

[Tgo01]

Probably because the whole thread lasted 52 minutes. :(

:O

[Gelston]

Probably because the whole thread lasted 52 minutes. :(

That’s what she said

[Bhaalizmo]

I don't recall this thread at all. It should be used more.

Nah, this was a dumb thread idea.

I'm surprised it's not one of yours.

[Tgo01]

Nah, this was a dumb thread idea.

I'm surprised it's not one of yours.

This post right here is perfect for this thread.

[Bhaalizmo]

This post right here is perfect for this thread.

You're welcome.

Sparky.

[Methais]

Nah, this was a dumb thread idea.

I'm surprised it's not one of yours.

Meanwhile, here's me at my best:

https://c.tenor.com/lk5YUP4Co1QAAAAC/static-glitch.gif

Yet here you are.

Good job.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

20 years after 9/11 and I'm still angry and sad. Watching it on TV again and having lived in Dulles when it happened, I just want to kill all the fucking terrorists that are whooping it up again in Afghanistan. Forgiving and forgetting is for fucking losers. Kill them all.

[Neveragain]

20 years after 9/11 and I'm still angry and sad. Watching it on TV again and having lived in Dulles when it happened, I just want to kill all the fucking terrorists that are whooping it up again in Afghanistan. Forgiving and forgetting is for fucking losers. Kill them all.

I don't watch any of the 9/11 memorials. I think there's been plenty of vengeance handed out for that day. We need to cut our military spending by at least a 3rd and use that money for infrastructure.

[~Rocktar~]

I don't watch any of the 9/11 memorials. I think there's been plenty of vengeance handed out for that day. We need to cut our military spending by at least a 3rd and use that money for infrastructure.

We need to cut spending and use it for infrastructure alright, but not military spending. Last breakdown I saw put military spending at less than 1/6th of the budget and this was years ago, entitlement spending is over 3/5ths. Stop paying people not to work and shift funding to paying for real jobs and improvements.

[~Rocktar~]

20 years after 9/11 and I'm still angry and sad. Watching it on TV again and having lived in Dulles when it happened, I just want to kill all the fucking terrorists that are whooping it up again in Afghanistan. Forgiving and forgetting is for fucking losers. Kill them all.

I am not running for office and I approve this message.

Alternately, fence off the whole region and don't let anyone in or out. Let them suffer with their own creation.

[Alfster]

We need to cut spending and use it for infrastructure alright, but not military spending. Last breakdown I saw put military spending at less than 1/6th of the budget and this was years ago, entitlement spending is over 3/5ths. Stop paying people not to work and shift funding to paying for real jobs and improvements.

Oh dear ignorance.

[Neveragain]

We need to cut spending and use it for infrastructure alright, but not military spending. Last breakdown I saw put military spending at less than 1/6th of the budget and this was years ago, entitlement spending is over 3/5ths. Stop paying people not to work and shift funding to paying for real jobs and improvements.

We spend 778 billion a year on military. That's up 130 billion since 2013. We could cut our military by 1/3 and still spend more on military than the rest of the world combined. Our national infrastructure is a part of our national security.

[~Rocktar~]

Oh dear ignorance.

Yes, we know you display it on every post.

[~Rocktar~]

We spend 778 billion a year on military. That's up 130 billion since 2013. We could cut our military by 1/3 and still spend more on military than the rest of the world combined. Our national infrastructure is a part of our national security.

So we spend more than everyone else. So what? We could cut a lot more from entitlements and improve things even more. Our spending in proportion to the rest of the world means absolutely nothing, it is not a meaningful comparison.

[drauz]

entitlement spending is over 3/5ths.

It's not.

https://media.nationalpriorities.org/uploads/2016-budget-chart-total-spending2.png

[Tgo01]

It's not.

https://media.nationalpriorities.org/uploads/2016-budget-chart-total-spending2.png

I mean....isn't 60% also known as 3/5ths?

[Shaps]

This is an interesting topic actually.. but it's more convoluted than just the Federal spending that occurs.

My opinion Federal spending should be for the majority of external/international affairs, national highways, federal parks, etc. Large projects that a single State is not able to manage on it's own.. hence.. the "United States" of America... Federal funding should handle the "united" part.. not the individual part. That's in general, a full breakdown of course is up for debate.

What's left out is what the States do, and how they manage their taxes and apply them for the people that choose to live in those States. One of the worst concepts I currently hate about the direction of national politics is this idea that each State should be the same. The beauty of our system is that there are a multitude of States that all manage themselves differently based upon their populous. That is a good thing. It gives us all the freedom to choose our everyday living conditions, taxes, school systems, etc. based upon what we want/believe is best for ourselves and our families. That is being lost with the constant push for the Federal Government to run everything in my opinion.

So fundamentally, I already think the Federal Government spends to much (and please realize...what they spend... is what you earn for them - I'd rather you keep what you earn and spend it in your community)... but what they do spend should be on such things as the Military (National Defense), Interstates/train/planes/etc. (National Transportation Systems), National Parks/Wildlife (National coverage to ensure natural resource conservation), International Affairs, etc.... and not much else.

Without doing a true deep dive on State taxes/expenditures.. the Federal Government argument is a false picture I believe.

Fun conversation though. Interested in more insight for sure.

[drauz]

I mean....isn't 60% also known as 3/5ths?

While people call social security and medicare "entitlements" they aren't the kind he was talking about. It is 23% of the budget in 2019 so I can guess it's fairly similar in 2016. That takes the total percentage way down.

He specifically said to stop paying people not to work and that would pay for infrastructure.

[Parkbandit]

I mean....isn't 60% also known as 3/5ths?

It's probably more than that once you pull out all the giveaways from Education, Housing, Transportation, Food and Ag, etc...

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

We have 405 billion we are paying in interest on debt. That's 33% what we spend on SS. 25% what we spend on medicaid/medicare. More than 55% what we spend on defense.

Federal spending is nearly double our Federal tax revenue (7 trillion vs 3.8 trillion). Any household in America knows you can't do this for forever. At some point the bill comes due, and the billionaires and multimillionaires don't make enough. Talk about where we should be spending all you want, when reality is we should be cutting everything the government does to right our budget for the next generations. There isn't even a fiscally responsible party anymore and frankly I don't think the millennials or whatever they are calling the generation after them have a clue how it's going to affect them in their "golden" years. Look at Greece and France and Italy and the measures they are having to take (and literal riots are occurring over) for a hint.

[Neveragain]

So we spend more than everyone else. So what? We could cut a lot more from entitlements and improve things even more. Our spending in proportion to the rest of the world means absolutely nothing, it is not a meaningful comparison.

Because it's wrong to take peoples money to destroy resources rather than using those resources for the taxpayers society we agree to live in.

[~Rocktar~]

Because it's wrong to take peoples money to destroy resources rather than using those resources for the taxpayers society we agree to live in.

Which has not one fucking thing to do with the comparison of what others spend to what we spend.

[~Rocktar~]

While people call social security and medicare "entitlements" they aren't the kind he was talking about. It is 23% of the budget in 2019 so I can guess it's fairly similar in 2016. That takes the total percentage way down.

He specifically said to stop paying people not to work and that would pay for infrastructure.

Yes they are and yes they are entitlements.

[drauz]

Yes they are and yes they are entitlements.

Just to be clear, you want to take the money that people have paid into and redistribute it to the common good.

[Gelston]

Yes they are and yes they are entitlements.

You realize when you are speaking directly of an entitlement, it is a right or earned object right?

[Neveragain]

Which has not one fucking thing to do with the comparison of what others spend to what we spend.

You know in the movies, where they have the bad guy with a shit ton of weaponry and all the people he rules over live in squalor?

Don't be that guy.

https://static.tweaktown.com/news/7/7/77828_06_elon-musk-made-the-starship-nose-more-pointy-because-of-dictator_full.jpg

[Candor]

We have 405 billion we are paying in interest on debt. That's 33% what we spend on SS. 25% what we spend on medicaid/medicare. More than 55% what we spend on defense.

Federal spending is nearly double our Federal tax revenue (7 trillion vs 3.8 trillion). Any household in America knows you can't do this for forever. At some point the bill comes due, and the billionaires and multimillionaires don't make enough. Talk about where we should be spending all you want, when reality is we should be cutting everything the government does to right our budget for the next generations. There isn't even a fiscally responsible party anymore and frankly I don't think the millennials or whatever they are calling the generation after them have a clue how it's going to affect them in their "golden" years. Look at Greece and France and Italy and the measures they are having to take (and literal riots are occurring over) for a hint.

I worry about how much debt we owe China...and what happens when China decides we have exceeded our credit limit.

[Gelston]

I worry about how much debt we owe China...and what happens when China decides we have exceeded our credit limit.

Absolutely fucking nothing. The major vast majority of the debt is owned by the US Public. China owns about 1 trillion in US debt. The US is OWED well more than that by other countries, because we also buy debt in other countries. We own more debt in other than countries than we owe to foreign holders of US debt.

[Shaps]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCCgpAW2vfQ

Want to see why people get upset about "mandates"... it's a slippery fucking slope.

[~Rocktar~]

Just to be clear, you want to take the money that people have paid into and redistribute it to the common good.

Fact is, most of it isn't earned. At max benefit, it only takes a few years to get paid back all you paid into for Social Security. Past that it is an entitlement just like any other. The same with Medicare. There is no fund, there is no interest, it's all a Ponzi scheme and if the government wasn't going it, it would be illegal.


You realize when you are speaking directly of an entitlement, it is a right or earned object right?

You realize that the definition you cite doesn't have one bit to do with what is classed as an entitlement from the government. It is labeled that because people who collect it are "entitled" to it because of law, not because they paid anything in or even at all. Any other idiotic semantic arguments you want to make?

[~Rocktar~]

I worry about how much debt we owe China...and what happens when China decides we have exceeded our credit limit.

In the next few years, we will likely find out as their economy collapses and they try and use that as a way to keep the house of cards afloat. Which is why we should not cut military spending since there will be a war most likely with some kind of trigger like Hong Kong or Taiwan invasion or something stupid like that.

The alternate solution is what Democrats did in the 70s to pay off the Vietnam War and line the pockets of all their military donors and that was massive inflation since inflation makes loaned money worthless. It would also help alleviate the "Student Loan Crisis" and so on. Unfortunately just like in the 70s it decimates the poor and elderly. I imagine somewhere, someone was hoping Covid would kill off more in those two brackets since they consume the majority of Federal spending. I don't know if it was planned but I am sure someone has thought about it.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Why do you think China's economy will collapse?

[drauz]

Fact is, most of it isn't earned. At max benefit, it only takes a few years to get paid back all you paid into for Social Security. Past that it is an entitlement just like any other. The same with Medicare. There is no fund, there is no interest, it's all a Ponzi scheme and if the government wasn't going it, it would be illegal.

So yes, understood.

[Solkern]

I worry about how much debt we owe China...and what happens when China decides we have exceeded our credit limit.


Lol? China owns only 4% of our national debt. Next, China needs US treasury bonds more than the US needs to sell them to China.

China can’t do anything except stop buying or doing a massive sell off, and both would have major consequences on their own economy.

Edited: Also, China buys debt to help itself, not to help America. Here’s a great article explaining why.
https://medium.datadriveninvestor.com/why-china-is-forced-to-purchase-us-treasuries-778058575145

[Gelston]

You realize that the definition you cite doesn't have one bit to do with what is classed as an entitlement from the government. It is labeled that because people who collect it are "entitled" to it because of law, not because they paid anything in or even at all. Any other idiotic semantic arguments you want to make?

I'm sorry you don't know what entitlement means.

[Neveragain]

Fact is, most of it isn't earned. At max benefit, it only takes a few years to get paid back all you paid into for Social Security. Past that it is an entitlement just like any other. The same with Medicare. There is no fund, there is no interest, it's all a Ponzi scheme and if the government wasn't going it, it would be illegal.



You realize that the definition you cite doesn't have one bit to do with what is classed as an entitlement from the government. It is labeled that because people who collect it are "entitled" to it because of law, not because they paid anything in or even at all. Any other idiotic semantic arguments you want to make?

An educated, safe, clean society comes at a cost. A part of that cost is taking care of the poor and downtrodden. Mostly because it's fucking gross walking by homeless people when you're wanting to take the kids out for ice cream.

The only thing that's going to save our economy, besides making bombs, is an infrastructure renewal program using US sourced resources. We know this works because we have the work done by programs such as the corps of engineering to show for it.

We can literally have nicer things for building less bombs.

[~Rocktar~]

Why do you think China's economy will collapse?

Because we are going to have a crash, without us buying their shit, something like 15+ percent of their economy collapses. That doesn't take into account any other western economic woes nor us defaulting on debt and ceasing interest payments as well as halting banking and so on to them. Is there an economy on the planet that can withstand that much shrink at once? Ours nearly collapsed when it happened to us and we had a lot less people to feed than we do now and they have insane amounts more people. India is in nearly the same boat.

And because like Japan, they have a growing segment of young population that doesn't want to work like their parents did.

[~Rocktar~]

An educated, safe, clean society comes at a cost. A part of that cost is taking care of the poor and downtrodden. Mostly because it's fucking gross walking by homeless people when you're wanting to take the kids out for ice cream.

The only thing that's going to save our economy, besides making bombs, is an infrastructure renewal program using US sourced resources. We know this works because we have the work done by programs such as the corps of engineering to show for it.

We can literally have nicer things for building less bombs.

We can have a lot more nicer things if we stop paying poor people to not be poor since it doesn't work. We have literally been doing the same thing since the 60 and it doesn't work and yet here you and others are wanting to do it more. It's like the stupid argument that real socialism hasn't been tried. Well, we have tried it, we have bankrupted our country doing it and you argue not to stop doing it.

[Alfster]

I personally like having a lot more nicer things.

[Neveragain]

We can have a lot more nicer things if we stop paying poor people to not be poor since it doesn't work. We have literally been doing the same thing since the 60 and it doesn't work and yet here you and others are wanting to do it more. It's like the stupid argument that real socialism hasn't been tried. Well, we have tried it, we have bankrupted our country doing it and you argue not to stop doing it.


Socialism has been tried and it works wonderfully. One only has to look at every 1st world country to point out socialisms success's. The 2008 financial crisis would have been a nightmare without our aging safety net, this can't even be argued.

Sloth isn't the only deadly sin.

It's literally build one less bomb and house 100 families instead. For 1250 bombs we could house 500,000 people. We dropped 7,400 bombs in Afghanistan in 2019 alone. We could have housed millions of poor people for 3-4 generations for the cost of the bombs that literally got us nothing.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Because we are going to have a crash, without us buying their shit, something like 15+ percent of their economy collapses. That doesn't take into account any other western economic woes nor us defaulting on debt and ceasing interest payments as well as halting banking and so on to them. Is there an economy on the planet that can withstand that much shrink at once? Ours nearly collapsed when it happened to us and we had a lot less people to feed than we do now and they have insane amounts more people. India is in nearly the same boat.

And because like Japan, they have a growing segment of young population that doesn't want to work like their parents did.

They can survive 15% shrinkage in their economy. You know why? Because their 15 trillion GDP is nearly double their national debt, and they don't care about their citizens starving.

[Parkbandit]

Socialism has been tried and it works wonderfully.

Venezuela just called.. they think you are an idiot. This was a conference call with India, Israel and Britain and they were all in agreement.

[Neveragain]

Venezuela just called.. they think you are an idiot. This was a conference call with India, Israel and Britain and they were all in agreement.

Socialism is on the other line, do you want me to thank them for your education?

[Seran]

It's literally build one less bomb and house 100 families instead. For 1250 bombs we could house 500,000 people. We dropped 7,400 bombs in Afghanistan in 2019 alone. We could have housed millions of poor people for 3-4 generations for the cost of the bombs that literally got us nothing.

Well said.

I would agree with a lot of folks that a strong, innovative military to protect ourselves is vital. I don't believe that it means utilizing the military by intervening in the affairs of other countries without clear goals, a reasonable chance of lasting success and a clear exit strategy. America has had three decade plus long wars, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. One might argue that North Korea belongs there to given the armistice, but I'll limit to the three.

Of the named above, only Iraq has had a lasting positive effect. But even that is tenuous, their government is weak and growing more anti-America by the year. Yes, we have stomped out terrorism in the Middle East, but really that was accomplished within the first year in both Iraq and Afghanistan. By staying in both countries, by the prolonged Vietnam farce, our country really only has created massive amounts of debt and casualties.

I think it's time for isolationism to become our primary interest for a few decades. Make our country the beacon of freedom, success, stability and innovation. Make our shores impenetrable and make sure that basic services like food/shelter/medical are available for all, without subsidizing their bad habits beyond that.

[Neveragain]

Honestly, PB. You are a perfect example of how socialism does work. You obtained the most valuable asset in acquiring wealth, you're education, by means of socialism.

You own your own business, which usually means you do something that you enjoy for a living. That's ultimately the goal of our public education system and you're living proof that it works.

[Gelston]

Honestly, PB. You are a perfect example of how socialism does work. You obtained the most valuable asset in acquiring wealth, you're education, by means of socialism.

You own your own business, which usually means you do something that you enjoy for a living. That's ultimately the goal of our public education system and you're living proof that it works.

College educations are the furthest thing from socialism that you could imagine.

[Neveragain]

Well said.

I would agree with a lot of folks that a strong, innovative military to protect ourselves is vital. I don't believe that it means utilizing the military by intervening in the affairs of other countries without clear goals, a reasonable chance of lasting success and a clear exit strategy. America has had three decade plus long wars, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. One might argue that North Korea belongs there to given the armistice, but I'll limit to the three.

Of the named above, only Iraq has had a lasting positive effect. But even that is tenuous, their government is weak and growing more anti-America by the year. Yes, we have stomped out terrorism in the Middle East, but really that was accomplished within the first year in both Iraq and Afghanistan. By staying in both countries, by the prolonged Vietnam farce, our country really only has created massive amounts of debt and casualties.

I think it's time for isolationism to become our primary interest for a few decades. Make our country the beacon of freedom, success, stability and innovation. Make our shores impenetrable and make sure that basic services like food/shelter/medical are available for all, without subsidizing their bad habits beyond that.

Both sides of the isle get in the way and it's mostly for corporate interests. Environmental extremists piss me off nearly as much as bomb makers.

[Neveragain]

College educations are the furthest thing from socialism that you could imagine.

That's not even true and I know you know better than that. My states highest paid government employee is the head coach of the Iowa Hawkeyes.

Iowa Hawkeyes are ranked #5 in the nation. All those players came from high school athletic programs.

[Gelston]

That's not even true and I know you know better than that. My states highest paid government employee is the head coach of the Iowa Hawkeyes.

Iowa Hawkeyes are ranked #5 in the nation. All those players came from high school athletic programs.

And his salary is paid for from the athletics department funds, which come from ESPN and ticket and concessions. Not the state or taxes. If Iowa made jack shit from football, he'd make jack shit for salary.

That being said, I'm talking about the STUDENT costs. It isn't free to go to college.

[Neveragain]

And his salary is paid for from the athletics department funds, which come from ESPN and ticket and concessions. Not the state or taxes. If Iowa made jack shit from football, he'd make jack shit for salary.

That being said, I'm talking about the STUDENT costs. It isn't free to go to college.

Which shows that socialism can and does create an environment in which capitalism can flourish.

P.S. We still have private schools along side public schools. That doesn't mean as a society we shouldn't strive to improve the quality of education available to our children and grand children.

Just because you had to climb rocks to get to school doesn't mean we shouldn't ever move the rocks.

[Gelston]

Which shows that socialism can and does create an environment in which capitalism can flourish.

Try harder.

[Shaps]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans-politics-behind-biden-decision-154300451.html

Pay close attention... Health care is supposed to be about caring for the health of people regardless of their personal decisions - hence the Hippocratic Oath...

What happens when you let Government overreach occur: "The Biden administration said the rationing is temporary and aimed at “optimal and equitable use,” of the drug, but gave no indication how long the restrictions would last."

No comment on increased production. Only on rationing.

Pay very close attention, this or an action like it... if we continue down this path... will affect you soon enough.

[Parkbandit]

Honestly, PB. You are a perfect example of how socialism does work. You obtained the most valuable asset in acquiring wealth, you're education, by means of socialism.

You own your own business, which usually means you do something that you enjoy for a living. That's ultimately the goal of our public education system and you're living proof that it works.

Actually, I am the product of how capitalism is king.

My education did not give me the motivation to own my own businesses.. it was my drive to acquire more money to provide for my family that did.

The harder I worked, the more money I made.

And college is like the exact opposite of socialism, given I paid my own way.

[Seran]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans-politics-behind-biden-decision-154300451.html

Pay close attention... Health care is supposed to be about caring for the health of people regardless of their personal decisions - hence the Hippocratic Oath...

What happens when you let Government overreach occur: "The Biden administration said the rationing is temporary and aimed at “optimal and equitable use,” of the drug, but gave no indication how long the restrictions would last."

No comment on increased production. Only on rationing.

Pay very close attention, this or an action like it... if we continue down this path... will affect you soon enough.

The government doesn't produce medicine, and it's being debated whether the Defense Production Act can be used to force private companies to produce more.

What the government has a responsibility to do is ensure equal access to critical medicines, particularly as monoclonal antibody treatments are used to treat many more debilitating and deadly conditions. Joe Antivaxxer and his ten children aren't any more or less deserving than Aunty DyingFromCancer, that's for health practitioners to decide. But for a state with 60% Joe Antivaxxer population to hoover up all available supply shouldn't happen.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

The government doesn't produce medicine, and it's being debated whether the Defense Production Act can be used to force private companies to produce more.

What the government has a responsibility to do is ensure equal access to critical medicines, particularly as monoclonal antibody treatments are used to treat many more debilitating and deadly conditions. Joe Antivaxxer and his ten children aren't any more or less deserving than Aunty DyingFromCancer, that's for health practitioners to decide. But for a state with 60% Joe Antivaxxer population to hoover up all available supply shouldn't happen.

So you aren't for universal healthcare then.

[Neveragain]

The government doesn't produce medicine, and it's being debated whether the Defense Production Act can be used to force private companies to produce more.

What the government has a responsibility to do is ensure equal access to critical medicines, particularly as monoclonal antibody treatments are used to treat many more debilitating and deadly conditions. Joe Antivaxxer and his ten children aren't any more or less deserving than Aunty DyingFromCancer, that's for health practitioners to decide. But for a state with 60% Joe Antivaxxer population to hoover up all available supply shouldn't happen.


This attitude "Joe Antivaxxer and his ten children" is why we even have to have this "whether the Defense Production Act can be used to force private companies to produce more" debate.

It was exciting to watch 4 civilians get launched into orbit last night, I really think we will have man on Mars by 2030. We need more Elon Musks and those that are making mankind a multi-planetary species. The only way to do that is to make more humans and work together to provide a society that doesn't hinder a person's ability to chase their dreams and ideas.

Joes 10 children are the future Elon Musks.

[Seran]

This attitude "Joe Antivaxxer and his ten children" is why we even have to have this "whether the Defense Production Act can be used to force private companies to produce more" debate.

It was exciting to watch 4 civilians get launched into orbit last night, I really think we will have man on Mars by 2030. We need more Elon Musks and those that are making mankind a multi-planetary species. The only way to do that is to make more humans and work together to provide a society that doesn't hinder a person's ability to chase their dreams and ideas.

Joes 10 children are the future Elon Musks.

Well yeah, imagine how much lower the monoclonal antibody demand would be if people would get vaccinated and quarantine when appropriate. Our country doesn't give new livers to alcoholics, kidneys to noncompliant diabetics or lungs to smokers, because the limited supply of transplants must be given to those with the mostly need who aren't a victim of their own life choices. This is the same rationality to monoclonal antibodies.

[Shaps]

Well yeah, imagine how much lower the monoclonal antibody demand would be if people would get vaccinated and quarantine when appropriate. Our country doesn't give new livers to alcoholics, kidneys to noncompliant diabetics or lungs to smokers, because the limited supply of transplants must be given to those with the mostly need who aren't a victim of their own life choices. This is the same rationality to monoclonal antibodies.

You mean like they used the DPA over the past 2 years?
You meant "paid to produce" not "forced to produce" right?
Your thinking is a political one.. not what a Doctor is supposed to do. We're not talking limited quantities based upon human death/donation to provide a resource (human organ transplants)... we're talking about a manufactured material.

By your logic... all people with Aids, should not get medical help. All people with severe STDs, should not get medical help. All obese or fat people, should not get medical help. All athletes, should not get medical help. All people that fuck themselves up on 4th of July with fireworks, should not get medical help. Etc. etc. etc.

Those are all that individuals life choice right? Those choices all led to their hospitalization right? So, per your logic, none of them should get help.

Your logic is the same rationality that dictators, authoritarian regimes... and insurance companies... like to use.

[Parkbandit]

This attitude "Joe Antivaxxer and his ten children" is why we even have to have this "whether the Defense Production Act can be used to force private companies to produce more" debate.

It was exciting to watch 4 civilians get launched into orbit last night, I really think we will have man on Mars by 2030. We need more Elon Musks and those that are making mankind a multi-planetary species. The only way to do that is to make more humans and work together to provide a society that doesn't hinder a person's ability to chase their dreams and ideas.

Joes 10 children are the future Elon Musks.

Elon Musks do not exist in a real socialist country.

[Seran]

You mean like they used the DPA over the past 2 years?
You meant "paid to produce" not "forced to produce" right?
Your thinking is a political one.. not what a Doctor is supposed to do. We're not talking limited quantities based upon human death/donation to provide a resource (human organ transplants)... we're talking about a manufactured material.

By your logic... all people with Aids, should not get medical help. All people with severe STDs, should not get medical help. All obese or fat people, should not get medical help. All athletes, should not get medical help. All people that fuck themselves up on 4th of July with fireworks, should not get medical help. Etc. etc. etc.

Those are all that individuals life choice right? Those choices all led to their hospitalization right? So, per your logic, none of them should get help.

Your logic is the same rationality that dictators, authoritarian regimes... and insurance companies... like to use.

You're comparing a limited resource, ie monoclonal antibodies and transplant organs which need to be rationed, to chronic disease treatments which do not have supply limitations in the United States. Those aren't comparable in the slightest.

Your irrational comparisons aside, do you have a legitimate reason why a scarce and critical medical resource shouldn't be rationed? "Because freedom" isn't a legitimate reason.

[Seran]

Seriously though, people suffering severe illnesses whose lives would be saved by monoclonal antibodies should not be left to die because Joe Rogans, Governor Abbotts and Joe Antivaxxers have a mild coronavirus infection.

[Shaps]

You're comparing a limited resource, ie monoclonal antibodies and transplant organs which need to be rationed, to chronic disease treatments which do not have supply limitations in the United States. Those aren't comparable in the slightest.

Your irrational comparisons aside, do you have a legitimate reason why a scarce and critical medical resource shouldn't be rationed? "Because freedom" isn't a legitimate reason.

"Monoclonal antibodies (mAbs) are produced by introducing an antigen to a mouse and then fusing polyclonal B cells from the mouse's spleen to myeloma cells. The resulting hybridoma cells are cultured and continue to produce antibodies to the antigen."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK100189/

Produced as I said - nothing comparable to organ transplants.

Your irrational arguments aside, do you have a legitimate reason why a medical treatment that is available should be rationed? "Because stuff" isn't a legitimate reason.

You make the mistake of me telling you what's what as a statement against vaccination... which could not be further from the truth. This is a statement on how the Government... instead of promoting, producing, and ensuring a viable and proven medical treatment for Covid is arbitrarily reducing its availability.

And you want to say, "well people don't deserve it"? You're one of those that's bought into the "hate your neighbor" narrative because your government has told you to. Sad to see.

Edit: And of course you don't address any of the other "life choice" examples I provided... as you know your argument is ignorant and short-sighted.

[Seran]

"Monoclonal antibodies (mAbs) are produced by introducing an antigen to a mouse and then fusing polyclonal B cells from the mouse's spleen to myeloma cells. The resulting hybridoma cells are cultured and continue to produce antibodies to the antigen."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK100189/

Produced as I said - nothing comparable to organ transplants.

Your irrational arguments aside, do you have a legitimate reason why a medical treatment that is available should be rationed? "Because stuff" isn't a legitimate reason.

You make the mistake of me telling you what's what as a statement against vaccination... which could not be further from the truth. This is a statement on how the Government... instead of promoting, producing, and ensuring a viable and proven medical treatment for Covid is arbitrarily reducing its availability.

And you want to say, "well people don't deserve it"? You're one of those that's bought into the "hate your neighbor" narrative because your government has told you to. Sad to see.

Edit: And of course you don't address any of the other "life choice" examples I provided... as you know your argument is ignorant and short-sighted.

Both donor organs and monoclonal antibodies are in high demand and in short supply and as a result, the distribution is controlled. That you cited how the medical treatment is produced is irrelevant, the supply is limited and to ensure fair distribution the federal government is stepping in.

Vaccines reduce infection and they reduce the severity of breakthrough cases. If more people were vaccinated, the availability of monoclonal antibodies wouldn't be an issue. See how cause and effect work?

Your so called life choice arguments were hyperbolic and not relevant to the discussion, so no they were completely disregarded.

[Shaps]

Both donor organs and monoclonal antibodies are in high demand and in short supply and as a result, the distribution is controlled. That you cited how the medical treatment is produced is irrelevant, the supply is limited and to ensure fair distribution the federal government is stepping in.

Vaccines reduce infection and they reduce the severity of breakthrough cases. If more people were vaccinated, the availability of monoclonal antibodies wouldn't be an issue. See how cause and effect work?

Your so called life choice arguments were hyperbolic and not relevant to the discussion, so no they were completely disregarded.

Again... if something that can be produced.. is in short supply.. you increase production. The fact they are not, and their first step is to reduce availability... tells you all you need to know.

The life choice arguments are not hyperbolic... it's what you're advocating for leads to. A doctor will treat you only if you meet an administrative "social score", instead of providing medical assistance when needed. Did you think the hate over insurance companies that abused the legalese to deny patients care was a fluke or something? And you want to give that power to the Government? C'mon.. I know you're not that stupid.

[Shaps]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1PpD_mjqnE

This video explains the current capability of people to think logically...

ROFL

[Seran]

Again... if something that can be produced.. is in short supply.. you increase production. The fact they are not, and their first step is to reduce availability... tells you all you need to know.

The life choice arguments are not hyperbolic... it's what you're advocating for leads to. A doctor will treat you only if you meet an administrative "social score", instead of providing medical assistance when needed. Did you think the hate over insurance companies that abused the legalese to deny patients care was a fluke or something? And you want to give that power to the Government? C'mon.. I know you're not that stupid.

More hyperbole. Ensuring a limited supply of a critical medication, treatment or resource is equally avaliable to states is a very far fling from your nonsense slippery slope theory. Furthermore, doctors are the ones in the states receiving the allocation on whom will receive treatment. Unlike your fantasy world, people who walk into a hospital demanding specific treatment are subject to medical justifications.

Yes, supply should be increased and hopefully it will. But until such time as supply increases sufficiently or demand decreases sufficiently, the Feds will make sure equal access occurs.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

More hyperbole. Ensuring a limited supply of a critical medication, treatment or resource is equally avaliable to states is a very far fling from your nonsense slippery slope theory. Furthermore, doctors are the ones in the states receiving the allocation on whom will receive treatment. Unlike your fantasy world, people who walk into a hospital demanding specific treatment are subject to medical justifications.

Yes, supply should be increased and hopefully it will. But until such time as supply increases sufficiently or demand decreases sufficiently, the Feds will make sure equal access occurs.

So this is what federal control of your healthcare looks like. Limited options. Hmmmm.

[Methais]

So this is what federal control of your healthcare looks like. Limited options. Hmmmm.

Seranpk thinks that if we go full socialism then everything he likes will remain the same, but everything will be free.

And if you think otherwise then it's because you hate brown people.

[Seran]

So this is what federal control of your healthcare looks like. Limited options. Hmmmm.

Yes, if by you mean tens of millions have have healthcare and no one agency or state can horde a specific treatment of resource. Welcome to the 21st Century grandpa, you can out away your leeches. Ma doesn't have to drive to Wisconsin now for her back pills.

[Parkbandit]

Yes, if by you mean tens of millions have have healthcare and no one agency or state can horde a specific treatment of resource. Welcome to the 21st Century grandpa, you can out away your leaches. Ma doesn't have to drive to Wisconsin now for her back pills.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/ghuvaCOI6GOoTX0RmH/giphy.gif


Thank you for the proper usage of the English language!

https://media3.giphy.com/media/esR1eKgmOnxWKR627f/200.gif

[Methais]

Yes, if by you mean tens of millions have have healthcare and no one agency or state can horde a specific treatment of resource. Welcome to the 21st Century grandpa, you can out away your leaches. Ma doesn't have to drive to Wisconsin now for her back pills.

Grandma won't have back pills anymore because she'll be considered too old and not worth the resources.

Confirmed that Seranpk has a burning hatred of old people.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Yeah, wtf dude. Do I go around insulting you? I thought this was a discussion :)

[Tgo01]

How does Seran manage to look like a worse human being each day than he did the day before? It truly is a marvel.

I thought nothing could top him defending people who think unvaccinated people should be denied medical treatment and left to die, but now here he is thinking the federal government should decide who dies and who doesn't.

[Shaps]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E96IYPOce0c

Be sure to listen to your elected leaders... they say don't take it... get that Seran? Biden and Kamala said don't take the vaccine... so you better not be taking it.

Swear people are fucking idiots.

Here's some fast equations:

Person A Vaccinated
Person B Unvaccinated
Person A can spread the virus
Person B can spread the virus
Person A is more protected from severe reactions
Person B is not more protected from severe reactions

Person A... should not care what Person B is doing... Person A is more "protected" already.

Person B... should not care what Person A is doing... Person B is making the choice based on their own health choices and will either be okay, or suffer the consequences.

Therefore... Person A and Person B should leave each other the fuck alone.

And as Kamala and Joe said... "why would you take it"? And you wonder why people don't trust politicians.

Edit: Oh.. and BTW.. we're at something like 75%+ vaccinated, or at least one shot already... It seems the majority of Americans are making their own decisions, on top of those with natural immunities. So tell me again why our dipshit politicians are trying to make neighbor hate neighbor? Could it be you don't see BLM, ANTIFA, Trump, blasted all over the news anymore? Could it be the only way one side knows how to hold power is by making people hate each other? You can try to deny it, but eventually you'll wake the fuck up.

[Methais]

Yeah, wtf dude. Do I go around insulting you? I thought this was a discussion :)

Seran is really stupid and is what you get when you order Androidpk from wish.com.

[~Rocktar~]

Seran is really stupid and is what you get when you order Androidpk from wish.com.

Come on now, even cheap Chinese factories have higher standards than that.

[Neveragain]

Yes, if by you mean tens of millions have have healthcare and no one agency or state can horde a specific treatment of resource. Welcome to the 21st Century grandpa, you can out away your leeches. Ma doesn't have to drive to Wisconsin now for her back pills.

Biden hacked Serans account.

[Seran]

Person A... should not care what Person B is doing... Person A is more "protected" already.

Person B... should not care what Person A is doing... Person B is making the choice based on their own health choices and will either be okay, or suffer the consequences.

Therefore... Person A and Person B should leave each other the fuck alone.

Person B has a higher transmission rate, increasing risk to Person A.

Person B is 29 times more likely to require hospitalization, utilizing beds and services Person A may require.

Person B is more likely to develop a mutated virus, with which to make the vaccine of Person A less effective.

Person B is squandering medical resources for an illness largely preventable by a free vaccine.

Person A is sick of Person B arguing their freedom gives them the right to infect others.

Person B is a horrible person.

[Tgo01]

Person B has a higher transmission rate, increasing risk to Person A.

Person B is 29 times more likely to require hospitalization, utilizing beds and services Person A may require.

Person B is more likely to develop a mutated virus, with which to make the vaccine of Person A less effective.

Person B is squandering medical resources for an illness largely preventable by a free vaccine.

Person A is sick of Person B arguing their freedom gives them the right to infect others.

Person B is a horrible person.

I'm just curious about these dumb ass arguments of yours, does Person A also get to force Person B to exercise and eat healthier so Person B doesn't "utilize" a hospital bed and "squander" medical resources for developing health conditions that are largely preventable?

[Shaps]

Person B has a higher transmission rate, increasing risk to Person A.

Person B is 29 times more likely to require hospitalization, utilizing beds and services Person A may require.

Person B is more likely to develop a mutated virus, with which to make the vaccine of Person A less effective.

Person B is squandering medical resources for an illness largely preventable by a free vaccine.

Person A is sick of Person B arguing their freedom gives them the right to infect others.

Person B is a horrible person.

In order:

Person A is vaccinated - your point is mute - because you say the vaccine works.

That is on Person B, they are taking the risk. Hospitals use resources for all types of things, and dumb decisions of people. Should a hospital turn away all drug/drinking cases on a weekend night? I mean.. they're taking up resources that person A may require right?

To claim vaccinated vs. unvaccinated is more prone for a mutated virus - I believe hasn't been proven? But historically, you know why viruses mutate? Because we develop vaccines and they mutate to adjust for them. So link some data if you're going to make that claim.

All people squander all types of medical resources for all types of shit... please see my earlier post regarding medical issues people have based upon personal choices... which you tried to brush aside.

Person B is sick of Person A arguing that they should take orders about their personal health from strangers or government administrators. You don't know what an individuals situation is... and claiming you know what's best for them is bullshit.

Person A is fine. Person B is fine. Jackasses like you? Not so much.


I'll say one last time... Listen to your personal physicians and do what is best for your health. Be respectful and cognizant of your surroundings. And otherwise tell people like the above to fuck off.

[Seran]

In order:

Person A is vaccinated - your point is mute - because you say the vaccine works.

That is on Person B, they are taking the risk. Hospitals use resources for all types of things, and dumb decisions of people. Should a hospital turn away all drug/drinking cases on a weekend night? I mean.. they're taking up resources that person A may require right?

To claim vaccinated vs. unvaccinated is more prone for a mutated virus - I believe hasn't been proven? But historically, you know why viruses mutate? Because we develop vaccines and they mutate to adjust for them. So link some data if you're going to make that claim.

All people squander all types of medical resources for all types of shit... please see my earlier post regarding medical issues people have based upon personal choices... which you tried to brush aside.

Person B is sick of Person A arguing that they should take orders about their personal health from strangers or government administrators. You don't know what an individuals situation is... and claiming you know what's best for them is bullshit.

Person A is fine. Person B is fine. Jackasses like you? Not so much.


I'll say one last time... Listen to your personal physicians and do what is best for your health. Be respectful and cognizant of your surroundings. And otherwise tell people like the above to fuck off.

Person B isn't listening to their physician, they're believing every crackpot Fox News theory about self determination and making everyone else ill around this. You're a fucking retarded if you think vaccines are 100% effective too.

[Tgo01]

Person B isn't listening to their physician, they're believing every crackpot Fox News theory about self determination and making everyone else ill around this. You're a fucking retarded if you think vaccines are 100% effective too.

Person B doesn't listen to their physician and doesn't quit smoking.

Seran: Let Person B die.

[Seran]

Person B doesn't listen to their physician and doesn't quit smoking.

Seran: Let Person B die.

Do you seriously do anything but hyperbole?

[Tgo01]

Do you seriously do anything but hyperbole?

Should that person die? I mean he's taking a bed and squandering medical resources.

[Seran]

Should that person die? I mean he's taking a bed and squandering medical resources.

Did I say that? No. You're literally making shit up like you always do. Someone who smokes /may/ wind up in the hospital, with any number of ailments which are treatable, maybe not curable. But antibiotics, oxygen, even most cancer treatments aren't supply limited

Monoclonal antibodies are very supply limited. As a result of supply being outstripped by demand, the supply is being apportioned to states. Period. Bitch and moan all you want, but it's an incredibly reasonable maneuver.

[Tgo01]

Did I say that? No.

Oh right, you just defend people who say those people should die and you somehow think it's Group A's business what medical procedures Group B decides they do or do not want because they are taking up a hospital bed and "squandering" medical resources.

Don't act like your shit don't stink. You're just barely stopping short of saying let those people die.

[Parkbandit]

You're a fucking retarded if you think vaccines are 100% effective too.

This explains everything you need to know about Seran.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

As a result of supply being outstripped by demand, the supply is being apportioned to states. Period.

By this argument we should stop shipping water to California. Or firefighters.

And avocados from Mexico.

[Shaps]

Man.. with this new logic.. Perhaps Colorado and Utah should damn up the Colorado River.. they are having water shortages themselves, and the natural resource is in their land mass. Wonder how that would go over in California... but it does fit this new logic.

[Gelston]

Person B doesn't listen to their physician and doesn't quit smoking.

Seran: Let Person B die.

As a former smoker, yes. It is their choice and they know it is bad for them.

[Gelston]

This explains everything you need to know about Seran.

They aren't and never have been though.

[Parkbandit]

They aren't and never have been though.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/CiYImHHBivpAs/200_d.gif

Let me help you out:


You're a fucking retarded if you think vaccines are 100% effective too.

[Gelston]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/CiYImHHBivpAs/200_d.gif

Let me help you out:

If you're calling me retarded, perhaps you should take a couple biology classes. I've taken a few. Vaccines are not, and have never been 100% effective. They do, in general, prevent a disease but one of the biggest thing is they lessen the severity of the disease.

[Parkbandit]

If you're calling me retarded, perhaps you should take a couple biology classes. I've taken a few. Vaccines are not, and have never been 100% effective. They do, in general, prevent a disease but one of the biggest thing is they lessen the severity of the disease.

You should have taken a course in Remedial English.

SPOILER: This has nothing to do with the vaccine.

SPOILER2: I didn't call you anything.

[Gelston]

You should have taken a course in Remedial English.

SPOILER: This has nothing to do with the vaccine.

SPOILER2: I didn't call you anything.

ok boomer

btw, ballsmore is signing your name in rep again if you want to tell kranar and be ignored because kranar doesn't care about the forum anymore.

[Seran]

By this argument we should stop shipping water to California. Or firefighters.

And avocados from Mexico.

This just in fuck nut, the water is being rationed by the federal government to the states belonging to the Colorado River Compact. Successfully might I add. I'm glad you see them light of day now.

[Parkbandit]

ok boomer

:(


btw, ballsmore is signing your name in rep again if you want to tell kranar and be ignored because kranar doesn't care about the forum anymore.

Meh.. don't care. Keeps him off the street.

[Tgo01]

As a former smoker, yes. It is their choice and they know it is bad for them.

That doesn’t mean we should refuse medical treatment to them. Most of modern medicine deals with health issues that are preventable.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

This just in fuck nut, the water is being rationed by the federal government to the states belonging to the Colorado River Compact. Successfully might I add. I'm glad you see them light of day now.

So angry

[Gelston]

That doesn’t mean we should refuse medical treatment to them. Most of modern medicine deals with health issues that are preventable.

If it is between a non-smoker and a smoker, I would absolutely choose the non-smoker.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

If it is between a non-smoker and a smoker, I would absolutely choose the non-smoker.

If cigarettes weren't so bad for you and made you smell like an ashtray... I'd probably still be smoking. I'm done now for 8? years and I still get a craving now and again.

But they really make you stink.

[Gelston]

If cigarettes weren't so bad for you and made you smell like an ashtray... I'd probably still be smoking. I'm done now for 8? years and I still get a craving now and again.

But they really make you stink.

I never even noticed the smell until after I quit. I quit because it was just money I was throwing away.

[Tgo01]

If it is between a non-smoker and a smoker, I would absolutely choose the non-smoker.

What if the non-smoker is a fatty and the smoker eats right and exercises regularly?

[Gelston]

What if the non-smoker is a fatty and the smoker eats right and exercises regularly?

They turn down organ transplants for unhealthy lifestyles, such as overindulging, too. Keep going down the list until you find a better candidate.

[Tgo01]

They turn down organ transplants for unhealthy lifestyles, such as overindulging, too. Keep going down the list until you find a better candidate.

And that's fine. They don't say "Oh sorry, you use illegal drugs, no healthcare for you!"

[Gelston]

And that's fine. They don't say "Oh sorry, you use illegal drugs, no healthcare for you!"

I'm sure that has happened before.

[Tgo01]

I'm sure that has happened before.

I'm sure it has, but it shouldn't happen and it shouldn't be a policy.

[Gelston]

I'm sure it has, but it shouldn't happen and it shouldn't be a policy.

Depends on what it is for. Organs shouldn't go to those sorts of people. Shit that isn't scarce, sure.

[Tgo01]

Depends on what it is for. Organs shouldn't go to those sorts of people. Shit that isn't scarce, sure.

I agree.

[Shaps]

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2021/09/17/breaking-news/san-francisco-mayor-breaks-strict-health-order-partying-maskless-at-nightclub/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v12D_9fmOXQ

Well hopefully they don't get treatment when they all get sick right? I mean, they're breaking the rules right? Maybe they shouldn't get that rationed medicine at all right?

Fucking can't believe how dumb some people are to buy the bullshit the politicians are feeding them... when time after time they're exposed for the hypocrites they are... when they're exposed for living their lives to the fullest while they tell you and everyone else to live in fear. It's pathetic to watch people so readily give up their freedoms.

[Shaps]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5X11Km9c6Q

https://www.thv11.com/article/news/verify/yes-the-irs-could-have-more-access-to-your-bank-accounts-under-bidens-proposal/91-91b89f8c-b30b-427d-bf13-a08d05b8414f

Get that? They want to allow the IRS full access to your bank accounts. So they can track everything you do with your money. And if you think it's about only the "super wealthy", you must not be very smart. They want it for any bank account with over $600. This is more data for them to track you, and apply more pressure.

Full government control. Pay attention.

[Shaps]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/xi-moving-china-economic-system-171146880.html

All in naming and marketing.

"Never been tried!"

Except for the hundreds of time it was attempted and ended in utter chaos and millions dead. I'm sure it will work this time though... the Government telling it's people exactly what it can and can't do so utterly, personal choice or freedom is wiped out.

It will work this time!

So much information, access to information, and history available... and yet people are dumber than ever. Amazing.

Also.. think Biden wanting to have free access to your bank account and every individual transaction you do is a random thing? How people are not revolting against this type of intrusion is absolutely astounding. People are so fucking brainwashed.

[Shaps]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGmXZu4eZQc

What the mainstream "media" won't show you.

[Shaps]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGA5820WTlY

Something to think about.

[Tgo01]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGA5820WTlY

Something to think about.

That's weird. I have never seen it like that in the stores near me. I see some empty shelves from time to time and there are certainly fewer food products on the shelves than pre-shutdowns, but that's just crazy.

[Gelston]

Food stores seem to be stocked around me.

Maybe that area's logistic train just sucks.

[Shaps]

Food stores seem to be stocked around me.

Maybe that area's logistic train just sucks.

Agreed... not saying it's widespread yet... more just something to consider.

The logjam of shipping containers is an interesting look into if you're so inclined. One article read that they normally had 1-2 ships on anchor a day as they cycled them through (normal operations), whereas currently something like over 70+/day are anchored waiting offload due to worker shortages/restrictions. How it will play out... who knows... I'm still researching various things on it.

[Seran]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGA5820WTlY

Something to think about.

Grandma is left to get her cold food products elsewhere because Walmart is having a refrigeration turnover. This isn't a shortage, it's a mechanical issue.

[Alfster]

Agreed... not saying it's widespread yet... more just something to consider.

The logjam of shipping containers is an interesting look into if you're so inclined. One article read that they normally had 1-2 ships on anchor a day as they cycled them through (normal operations), whereas currently something like over 70+/day are anchored waiting offload due to worker shortages/restrictions. How it will play out... who knows... I'm still researching various things on it.

For a while there were delays due to prioritize certain types of shipping. You got computer chips, front of the line.

[Shaps]

Grandma is left to get her cold food products elsewhere because Walmart is having a refrigeration turnover. This isn't a shortage, it's a mechanical issue.

If it is, provide a link. Not claiming one way or another... as said, still doing my research on it.

[Methais]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGA5820WTlY

Something to think about.


If it is, provide a link. Not claiming one way or another... as said, still doing my research on it.

Did you not find it strange that the guy who made the video only recorded the freezers/coolers but not the actual aisles?

0:40 (https://youtu.be/LGA5820WTlY?t=40)
https://i.imgur.com/SB3bVK3.png


No shortages at any Walmarts around here, and we got pwned by a pretty bad hurricane less than a month ago so they were completely cleaned out for a little bit.

No idea if that part of Texas from the video was impacted by Hurricane Nicholas that went through Texas recently, but that's typically how Walmart looks when a hurricane is about to hit too. Or when their coolers(s) break.

Either way, the guy who made the video avoiding all the aisles and only focusing on the coolers is sus.

https://c.tenor.com/u4DTDP287_kAAAAC/sus-suspect.gif

[Neveragain]

Did you not find it strange that the guy who made the video only recorded the freezers/coolers but not the actual aisles?

0:40 (https://youtu.be/LGA5820WTlY?t=40)
https://i.imgur.com/SB3bVK3.png


No shortages around here at any Walmarts around here, and we got pwned by a pretty bad hurricane less than a month ago.

No idea if that part of Texas from the video was impacted by Hurricane Nicholas that went through Texas recently, but that's typically how Walmart looks when a hurricane is about to hit too. Or when their coolers(s) break.

Either way, the guy who made the video avoiding all the aisles and only focusing on the coolers is sus.

https://c.tenor.com/u4DTDP287_kAAAAC/sus-suspect.gif

The video has that 4:00 am in the morning feel to it. I certainly hope Walmart empties their coolers for sanitation from time to time.....

I do know I couldn't find canned apricots for like 2 months.

Honestly though, the pastry section looked fully stocked and that's all that really matters.

[Seran]

Grandma is left to get her cold food products elsewhere because Walmart is having a refrigeration turnover. This isn't a shortage, it's a mechanical issue.

Grandma even gets called out by another resident who shops at that Walmart confirming they're doing regular disinfecting of their cooler section. How funny.

Conspiracy theory debunked!

[Shaps]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/22/business/cf-industries-uk-co2-food-shortages/index.html

https://www.abc27.com/news/consumer/these-foods-are-extra-hard-to-find-right-now-because-of-shortages-supply-chain-issues/

https://kstp.com/coronavirus/local-restaurants-face-food-supply-shortages-us-foods/6226414/

https://extension.okstate.edu/articles/2021/food-prices.html

https://www.counton2.com/news/local-news/charleston-county-news/nationwide-shortages-causing-price-increases-mostly-with-groceries-and-food/

https://www.supplychainscene.org/resources/news/covid-19-coverage-foodservice-supply-chain

Is it really a conspiracy theory? Huh.

[Seran]

Yes. When Grandma Rightwing posts a supermarket doing normal cleaning and maintenance claiming the bare shelves are a food shortage, it is. It especially is when she compounds that lie saying other shelves not posted in her video were also bare.

[Shaps]

I only said "something to think about" and "Not claiming one way or another... as said, still doing my research on it."

I post some things to refute your "conspiracy theory debunked!" statement... and all you do is go on a rant.

You seriously need to work on your critical thinking skills... I know that partisan hand is up your ass and playing you like a sock-puppet, but don't be that obvious about it.

[Methais]

The video has that 4:00 am in the morning feel to it. I certainly hope Walmart empties their coolers for sanitation from time to time.....

I do know I couldn't find canned apricots for like 2 months.

Honestly though, the pastry section looked fully stocked and that's all that really matters.

Reported for saying "4:00 am in the morning" as opposed to "4:00 am in the evening."

https://i.imgflip.com/3d2u2g.gif

[Shaps]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/newsom-signs-bills-allowing-children-171900404.html

"Newsom signs bills allowing children to hide sex operations and abortions from parents"

Understand.. your children are not your children... they're the Governments.

Hit 18 and get all the abortions and change your sex as much as you want... when you're legally an adult.

Telling parents they have no right to know their underage child is getting operated on, but still expected to pay for it... Democrat Party logic.

[Neveragain]

Reported for saying "4:00 am in the morning" as opposed to "4:00 am in the evening."

https://i.imgflip.com/3d2u2g.gif

Now I'm in my place of Zen.

[Shaps]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/8-graphics-highlight-just-bad-160458013.html

"8 graphics that highlight just how bad the record backlog of container ships in Southern California really is"

Huh.. conspiracy theory.

[Seran]

I only said "something to think about" and "Not claiming one way or another... as said, still doing my research on it."

I post some things to refute your "conspiracy theory debunked!" statement... and all you do is go on a rant.

You seriously need to work on your critical thinking skills... I know that partisan hand is up your ass and playing you like a sock-puppet, but don't be that obvious about it.

You shared a lie. A woman created a misleading video meant to convey incorrect information and to lead viewers to think things are worse than they are. You don't divulge responsibility for sharing misinformation simply by declaring you haven't made up your mind. Tucker Carlson doesn't get away with it, you sure as shit don't either.

If you share the information, you buy into it. Own that, you needn't lie about being a partisan tin fool hat person.

[Seran]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/8-graphics-highlight-just-bad-160458013.html

"8 graphics that highlight just how bad the record backlog of container ships in Southern California really is"

Huh.. conspiracy theory.

Nah, this one is legit. The Port Authority has had record berthing requests for the year and simply don't have the physical storage to accept temporary custody of the products pending transportation to its market. Demand is outstripping available space, but this is suppliers stocking up and not mirrored in a massive increase of end user / customer purchases. Well, aside from vehicles and computer components anyways.

This doesn't feed into Grandma Rightwing's misinformation though, because grocery stores get the majority of their products from within our country and not from overseas shoppers. So slow down there with your snark little Jimmy.

[Methais]

You shared a lie. A woman created a misleading video meant to convey incorrect information and to lead viewers to think things are worse than they are. You don't divulge responsibility for sharing misinformation simply by declaring you haven't made up your mind. Tucker Carlson doesn't get away with it, you sure as shit don't either.

If you share the information, you buy into it. Own that, you needn't lie about being a partisan tin fool hat person.

The best part is if it was uploaded by a democrat, you'd still be defending it saying it's legit and that somehow the empty coolers are Trump's fault.

[Shaps]

You shared a lie. A woman created a misleading video meant to convey incorrect information and to lead viewers to think things are worse than they are. You don't divulge responsibility for sharing misinformation simply by declaring you haven't made up your mind. Tucker Carlson doesn't get away with it, you sure as shit don't either.

If you share the information, you buy into it. Own that, you needn't lie about being a partisan tin fool hat person.

LOL.. you just keep holding on... thinking they really care about you... ROFL... simpleton for their advancement of power.

Oh yea... remember all that "Russian Collusion!" blah blah blah...

https://news.yahoo.com/independent-source-confirms-authenticity-damning-124601909.html

Uncle Joe lining those pockets... I'm sure you'll rant and rave defending him though... hoping for that handout from good ol'Uncle Joe. ROFL.

Funny how people fight, once they realize they've been played. LOL.

[Tgo01]

You shared a lie. A woman created a misleading video meant to convey incorrect information

I mean...we still have no idea what is going on in the video. You read one random comment from one random person who responded to her video and decided the woman lied and the random comment is telling the truth. You are the literal definition of a sheep.

I really highly doubt Walmart removes ALL of the frozen and refrigerated food when they need to clean/perform maintenance on the systems. That makes absolutely no sense. I use to work for Walmart many years ago and I have never seen anything like that before. Where would they store all of the food while they are cleaning? It would make much more sense to do one cooler at a time so they could just store the food in the freeze storage area.

But there could be something else going on here: maybe all of their cooler units broke so they had to throw all of the food away, maybe the store was cleaned out because the area was hit by a hurricane recently or whatever.

Point is no one has really provided any information on what is going on here, but you read a random YouTube comment and decided that must be the truth. Unreal.

[Seran]

LOL.. you just keep holding on... thinking they really care about you... ROFL... simpleton for their advancement of power.

Oh yea... remember all that "Russian Collusion!" blah blah blah...

https://news.yahoo.com/independent-source-confirms-authenticity-damning-124601909.html

Uncle Joe lining those pockets... I'm sure you'll rant and rave defending him though... hoping for that handout from good ol'Uncle Joe. ROFL.

Funny how people fight, once they realize they've been played. LOL.

Independent source, about as credible as Giuliani and his affidavits. I like how mum you right wingers were after Trump's memo to overthrow the election failed because Pence failed to play his part. What a shame

[Seran]

I mean...we still have no idea what is going on in the video. You read one random comment from one random person who responded to her video and decided the woman lied and the random comment is telling the truth. You are the literal definition of a sheep.

I really highly doubt Walmart removes ALL of the frozen and refrigerated food when they need to clean/perform maintenance on the systems. That makes absolutely no sense. I use to work for Walmart many years ago and I have never seen anything like that before. Where would they store all of the food while they are cleaning? It would make much more sense to do one cooler at a time so they could just store the food in the freeze storage area.

But there could be something else going on here: maybe all of their cooler units broke so they had to throw all of the food away, maybe the store was cleaned out because the area was hit by a hurricane recently or whatever.

Point is no one has really provided any information on what is going on here, but you read a random YouTube comment and decided that must be the truth. Unreal.

Easy fix, call the store.

[~Rocktar~]

I mean...we still have no idea what is going on in the video. You read one random comment from one random person who responded to her video and decided the woman lied and the random comment is telling the truth. You are the literal definition of a sheep.

I really highly doubt Walmart removes ALL of the frozen and refrigerated food when they need to clean/perform maintenance on the systems. That makes absolutely no sense. I use to work for Walmart many years ago and I have never seen anything like that before. Where would they store all of the food while they are cleaning? It would make much more sense to do one cooler at a time so they could just store the food in the freeze storage area.

But there could be something else going on here: maybe all of their cooler units broke so they had to throw all of the food away, maybe the store was cleaned out because the area was hit by a hurricane recently or whatever.

Point is no one has really provided any information on what is going on here, but you read a random YouTube comment and decided that must be the truth. Unreal.

Having experience in the past with this, the only reason a cooler should be empty is it is broken waiting for repair, store remodel or for a very short time (4-8 hours at most) a mod set (where they move things around for fun and shopper confusion). Otherwise, it's because they have nothing to put in it (not likely), got shopped out or someone isn't doing their job and the management shift change store walk hasn't caught them yet.

[Neveragain]

Independent source, about as credible as Giuliani and his affidavits. I like how mum you right wingers were after Trump's memo to overthrow the election failed because Pence failed to play his part. What a shame

Seran trusting the crackhead.

Can't make this shit up.

[Shaps]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/costco-placing-purchase-limits-toilet-132126893.html

"Costco placing purchase limits on toilet paper, other products due to COVID-related demand"

"Galanti noted delays and shortages on furniture as well as chip shortages impacting the availability of items such as computers, tablets and appliances."

Huh... odd... it's like someone said something about shortages a few days ago, and someone disagreed... really weird how that happens... guess when facts slap you in the face, it's easy to ignore after taking all that Biden dick to it.

[Shaps]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/apos-reform-california-apos-chairman-002112645.html

"'Reform California' chairman slams bill to allow illegal immigrants to serve on county central committee"

"The bill says it will "permit a person who is not a United States citizen, but who would be eligible to register to vote if the person were a United States citizen, to serve as a member of the committee."

How you like that word play?

And you think things aren't rigged? LOL

[Seran]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/costco-placing-purchase-limits-toilet-132126893.html

"Costco placing purchase limits on toilet paper, other products due to COVID-related demand"

"Galanti noted delays and shortages on furniture as well as chip shortages impacting the availability of items such as computers, tablets and appliances."

Huh... odd... it's like someone said something about shortages a few days ago, and someone disagreed... really weird how that happens... guess when facts slap you in the face, it's easy to ignore after taking all that Biden dick to it.

You'll not find paper products in the freezer section, nor is Costco limiting food products as their is no shortage there. You and Grandma Rightwing spend so much of your energy fabricating lies and conspiracies that I wonder what you could get done if you took of your tin foil hat.

Though I suppose you Republicans who have supported ending the minimum wage and entitlements may one day cause seniors and the poor to eat toilet paper and paper towels to stay alive. Sad.

[Neveragain]

You'll not find paper products in the freezer section, nor is Costco limiting food products as their is no shortage there. You and Grandma Rightwing spend so much of your energy fabricating lies and conspiracies that I wonder what you could get done if you took of your tin foil hat.

Though I suppose you Republicans who have supported ending the minimum wage and entitlements may one day cause seniors and the poor to eat toilet paper and paper towels to stay alive. Sad.

I can confirm that paper is in short supply. The mills started reducing inventory a couple of years before covid was a thing. This multiplied the shortage when we needlessly shut down the economy.

Before covid, paper demand had been in a steady downfall as we become more digitized. This is why mills basically reduced their inventories to nothing, even the most common paper stock was being produced on demand.

[Shaps]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/facebook-is-pausing-work-on-instagram-kids-app-124639135.html

"Facebook is ‘pausing’ work on Instagram Kids app amid growing scrutiny"

More social engineering... Your kids belong to Government and Big Tech...

[Shaps]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/irs-track-bank-transactions-over-140000522.html

"IRS would track all bank transactions over $600 under Biden plan; Businesses revolt"

Personal Privacy?... Sorry, your every action deserves Government scrutiny...

[Parkbandit]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/irs-track-bank-transactions-over-140000522.html

"IRS would track all bank transactions over $600 under Biden plan; Businesses revolt"

Personal Privacy?... Sorry, your every action deserves Government scrutiny...

We were starting to move away from cash... this will make cash king again.

[Shaps]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/teachers-force-fed-slice-privilege-184423907.html

"Teachers Force-Fed a Slice of ‘Privilege Pie’ at Washington High School"

Schools are now indoctrination centers... pay attention to what your kids are being taught... because teaching them racism is the current syllabus.

[Seran]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/irs-track-bank-transactions-over-140000522.html

"IRS would track all bank transactions over $600 under Biden plan; Businesses revolt"

Personal Privacy?... Sorry, your every action deserves Government scrutiny...

President Biden proposes eliminating tax fraud amounting to hundreds of billions of dollars per year, corrupt businesses panic.

[Tgo01]

President Biden proposes eliminating tax fraud amounting to hundreds of billions of dollars per year, corrupt businesses panic.

He proposes eliminating tax fraud by spying on pretty much each and every single American and seeing what they are spending their money on and who they are doing business transactions with? I'm sure Jim Bob living in the middle of nowhere and barely making enough money to survive is partly responsible for all of these billions in tax fraud.

That sounds perfectly legit. Seriously how do you fuckers keep defending this shit? Trump sneezed and the media somehow said his sneeze was racist and you were all over that shit like flies, but Biden does actual fucked up shit that even dictators would blush at and all you can do is defend it and call everyone who disagrees a racist, an idiot, a "corrupt business", or telling them they deserve to die. You and everyone who thinks like you are what's wrong with this world today. Don't try and fool yourself that you're "on the right side of history."

[Seran]

He proposes eliminating tax fraud by spying on pretty much each and every single American and seeing what they are spending their money on and who they are doing business transactions with? I'm sure Jim Bob living in the middle of nowhere and barely making enough money to survive is partly responsible for all of these billions in tax fraud.

It is perfectly legit. If Jim Bob is moving thousands of dollars a year through his bank account while exporting zero or not filing taxes, then such moves will uncover fraud. Meanwhile if Jim Bob is doing nothing illegal, he shouldn't have a problem with the bank being required to report his total deposits and withdrawals every year.

Now if you're a criminal, corrupt businessman or really most Republicans, you'll do your damndest to scream privacy violations to conceal your shenangins. After all, what does a bank submitting an annual dollar amount of transactions have anything to do with the government knowing what they are spending money on?

This tool will allow the IRS to do a far better job screening for fraud, rather than relying on random audits. But then, audits are another Conservativashit boogeyman too.

[Tgo01]

It is perfectly legit. If Jim Bob is moving thousands of dollars a year through his bank account

Six. Hundred. Dollars.

Not "thousands of dollars."

"It's perfectly legit to have the government in a free and democratic society spy on almost every person with a banking account! It's not a sign of a dictatorship in action at all!"

I'm sure you would be totally cool with this if it didn't come from the demented mouth of a Democrat president.

[Gelston]

Meanwhile if Jim Bob is doing nothing illegal, he shouldn't have a problem with the bank being required to report his total deposits and withdrawals every year.

NExt time there is an incident involving officers and a POC I'll make sure to quote you on this.

[Tgo01]

Seran is totally in favor of aggressive stop and frisk tactics. Yet another notch in his "I'm the biggest racist on this forum" belt.

[Neveragain]

It is perfectly legit. If Jim Bob is moving thousands of dollars a year through his bank account while exporting zero or not filing taxes, then such moves will uncover fraud. Meanwhile if Jim Bob is doing nothing illegal, he shouldn't have a problem with the bank being required to report his total deposits and withdrawals every year.

Now if you're a criminal, corrupt businessman or really most Republicans, you'll do your damndest to scream privacy violations to conceal your shenangins. After all, what does a bank submitting an annual dollar amount of transactions have anything to do with the government knowing what they are spending money on?

This tool will allow the IRS to do a far better job screening for fraud, rather than relying on random audits. But then, audits are another Conservativashit boogeyman too.

Al Sharpton owes 4 million in back taxes.

Joe Biden owes $500,000 in back taxes.

[Neveragain]

Six. Hundred. Dollars.

Not "thousands of dollars."

"It's perfectly legit to have the government in a free and democratic society spy on almost every person with a banking account! It's not a sign of a dictatorship in action at all!"

I'm sure you would be totally cool with this if it didn't come from the demented mouth of a Democrat president.

It's the minimum wage earners that are the problem, obviously.

[Neveragain]

Jim Bob must pay the price for his illegal crawfish operation.

[Tgo01]

Jim Bob must pay the price for his illegal crawfish operation.

Jim Bob is the worst. I hope they crack down even harder on poor people struggling to survive. If Jim Bob has nothing to worry about then he should be okay with a government official barging his way into his home and going through all of his stuff to make sure he has reported each and every single penny to the IRS.

[Neveragain]

Jim Bob is the worst. I hope they crack down even harder on poor people struggling to survive. If Jim Bob has nothing to worry about then he should be okay with a government official barging his way into his home and going through all of his stuff to make sure he has reported each and every single penny to the IRS.

When you say "home" you really mean "trailer".

Racist!

[Seran]

Six. Hundred. Dollars.

Not "thousands of dollars."

"It's perfectly legit to have the government in a free and democratic society spy on almost every person with a banking account! It's not a sign of a dictatorship in action at all!"

I'm sure you would be totally cool with this if it didn't come from the demented mouth of a Democrat president.

Hey grandma, I wonder if you understand that folks making under the IRS threshold don't pay taxes and so would naturally be exempt if their 1099-k documents reported by banks were under the standard deduction.

We pay taxes in this country Dreaven and people failing to pay hundreds or billions of dollars a year escape their obligations. To resolve this, the IRS will be given the information needed to properly ensure payment.

Whatever happened to the Fiscal Conservatives that believed in a balanced budget? Surely they'd understand why everyone fairly paying taxes is important to reduce deficits. Because your nonsense and this current brand of irresponsible governance Republicans don't know shit.

[Seran]

Al Sharpton owes 4 million in back taxes.

Joe Biden owes $500,000 in back taxes.

And I'm sure if President Biden is audited and found to owe that it will be paid.

[Tgo01]

Hey grandma, I wonder if you understand that folks making under the IRS threshold don't pay taxes and so would naturally be exempt if their 1099-k documents reported by banks were under the standard deduction.

If they are "naturally exempt" then why set the threshold to 600 dollars?

Are you just making shit up as you go along or what? This is perhaps the most pathetic thing I've seen yet, this is surpassing your defense of Biden's war crime of droning 7 children to death. At least with the droning you could just say "I'm a racist who doesn't care about brown children being murdered" but you have like no defense at all of this dumb shit.

[Methais]

You'll not find paper products in the freezer section, nor is Costco limiting food products as their is no shortage there. You and Grandma Rightwing spend so much of your energy fabricating lies and conspiracies that I wonder what you could get done if you took of your tin foil hat.

Though I suppose you Republicans who have supported ending the minimum wage and entitlements may one day cause seniors and the poor to eat toilet paper and paper towels to stay alive. Sad.

^ Found the entire supply of asswipes.

[Methais]

President Biden proposes eliminating tax fraud amounting to hundreds of billions of dollars per year, corrupt businesses panic.

How is it possible each day for you to be more of a cuck than you were the day before?

[Neveragain]

And I'm sure if President Biden is audited and found to owe that it will be paid.

Are you saying Sharpton doesn't have to pay his 4 million?

[Seran]

Are you saying Sharpton doesn't have to pay his 4 million?

Do you see anywhere in my post mentioning Sharpton? No? Okay then.

[Neveragain]

Do you see anywhere in my post mentioning Sharpton? No? Okay then.

So you're saying Sharpton doesn't have to pay the 4 million he owes?

[Shaps]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIiA4SM3LEY

A good analogy (delivered by an outstanding actor I might add)... some should take heed, others should realize to not fear and recognize their own strength.

Just really like the clip too, his delivery is amazing.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

And I'm sure if President Biden is audited and found to owe that it will be paid.

From the 10 held out for the big guy?

[Parkbandit]

From the 10 held out for the big guy?

That's a completely different... that's not "tax fraud".. that's just outright regular fraud.

[Seran]

If they are "naturally exempt" then why set the threshold to 600 dollars?.

No idea why they set it at $600, it could have been $500 or $750. The important thing is that by reporting aggregate transactions exceeding the $600 they will be catching a lot more fraudsters.

One day you'll see your party is trying to destroy our country

[Tgo01]

The important thing is that by reporting aggregate transactions exceeding the $600 they will be catching a lot more fraudsters.

Democrats: We need to spy on everyone in order to catch the tax cheats!
Seran: DDDUUUUURRRRRR! Makes complete sense to me!

Up next:

Democrats: We need to install cameras in every house in order to catch the domestic abusers!
Seran: DDDUUUUURRRRRR! Makes complete sense to me!

[Neveragain]

Democrats: We need to spy on everyone in order to catch the tax cheats!
Seran: DDDUUUUURRRRRR! Makes complete sense to me!

Up next:

Democrats: We need to install cameras in every house in order to catch the domestic abusers!
Seran: DDDUUUUURRRRRR! Makes complete sense to me!

Seran doesn't realize that this will just cause a giant run on the banks.

In before "we'll just lock their accounts ~ Seran"

[Shaps]

Judge for yourself:

https://www.judicialwatch.org/videos/fitton-oann-fetal-tissue/

"FITTON: DOCUMENTS SHOW OBAMA FDA BUYING FETAL HEADS 'FRESH, NEVER FROZEN'"

https://www.yahoo.com/now/conservative-watchdog-group-obtains-fda-215100944.html

"A January 2013 invoice priced the bodies of unborn babies at $215 for the second trimester and $515 for the first trimester."

https://www.wicker.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=6CA14FE1-C902-470B-8DE0-0894A476FFF1

"The 2019 restrictions on HFT were instituted because of glaring abuses that came to light. For example, a careful review of an FDA contract with Advanced Bioscience Resources (ABR) to procure “fresh human fetal tissue” for transplantation into mice raised serious doubts about whether federal standards were being met, resulting in HHS’s decision to cancel the contract. Further investigations and disclosures led HHS to discontinue intramural research projects that exploited the remains of unborn children and to convene the statutorily-defined Ethics Advisory Board to provide oversight and accountability for extramural HFT projects.

Recently published FOIA documents have brought to light sickening details of the FDA’s dealings with ABR before 2018, in which FDA employees routinely placed orders for eyeballs, livers, skin, brains, skulls, and sometimes fully-intact bodies of infants aborted in the second trimester. According to email and court records, ABR received up to $2,000 for whole infant bodies and was paid $12,000 for a series of shipments of harvested organs that were used to humanize mice in lab experiments. More recently, the Center for Medical Progress (CMP) revealed that researchers grafted the scalps of aborted babies onto lab rats as part of research funded by grants from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID)."

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/trump-administration-cancels-fda-fetal-tissue-contract-n913051

"Trump administration cancels FDA fetal tissue contract"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/biden-administration-removes-trump-era-restrictions-on-fetal-tissue-research/2021/04/16/71719006-9ed2-11eb-8005-bffc3a39f6d3_story.html

"Biden administration removes Trump-era restrictions on fetal tissue research" --- "A brief update for outside scientists from the NIH director’s office said the Department of Health and Human Services was reversing a 2019 decision that had required applicants for federal grants and contracts involving fetal tissue to undergo an extra layer of review by an ethics advisory board."



You body, your choice right? Why are they so supportive of people aborting babies again? Why would they get rid of an Ethics board?

This is chess, not checkers.

[time4fun]

They're supportive because it was a literal public health crisis when women were forced to get back alley abortions. And because women who do have access to reproductive rights face substantial socioeconomic consequences- as do their children.

The fact that you're actually implying that people are pro-choice for fetal tissue contracts tells me that you know absolutely nothing about the history of reproductive rights nor the societal consequences of not having those rights.

Please educate yourself.

[Neveragain]

And because women who do have access to reproductive rights face substantial socioeconomic consequences

A society that practices human sacrifice is a sure sign that society is shit.....

For example, tell us again how men can breastfeed.

[Methais]

No idea why they set it at $600, it could have been $500 or $750. The important thing is that by reporting aggregate transactions exceeding the $600 they will be catching a lot more fraudsters.

One day you'll see your party is trying to destroy our country

https://i.imgur.com/ovkklAU.jpg

[Seran]

Seran doesn't realize that this will just cause a giant run on the banks.

In before "we'll just lock their accounts ~ Seran"

A run on the banks? That's asinine, what basis do you have for this claim? Banks present a secure, often interest bearing means for citizens to store, transfer and utilize their money. That will not change as a result of account balances exceeding a threshold being reported. Some may choose to go bank less to hide fraud, but then some may also choose to go back to horses and buggies to prevent state governments from requiring vehicle registration. That's personal choice.

[Seran]

You body, your choice right? Why are they so supportive of people aborting babies again? Why would they get rid of an Ethics board?

This is chess, not checkers.

Yeah, I'm not quite sure why you've posted it beyond trolling opportunities, but here goes.

Medical science has progressed beyond leeches and purging, over hundreds of years our science based medical advancement has involved the usage of dead bodies and tissues to further understanding of human anatomy and to treat / eliminate illness. The tissue resulting from an abortion is no different in terms of science, than an adult cadaver.

The cost associated with storing and transporting necessary materials for scientific advancement have to be met for then to be available. Some people may feel that the tissues following an abortion should be off limits, but I think that's a personal emotion/religious decision and not a legitimate basis for preventing medical science advancement.

[Methais]

A run on the banks? That's asinine, what basis do you have for this claim? Banks present a secure, often interest bearing means for citizens to store, transfer and utilize their money. That will not change as a result of account balances exceeding a threshold being reported. Some may choose to go bank less to hide fraud, but then some may also choose to go back to horses and buggies to prevent state governments from requiring vehicle registration. That's personal choice.

:rofl:

Enjoy that ultra trash .01% interest rate with banks.

Meanwhile, you can stake/lend stablecoins in the crypto market instead and get much much higher annual returns with pretty much zero risk.


Leave it to Serandroidpk to crusade to being a maximum cuck in every possible way though.

[Seran]

Uncontrolled speculation has oil prices up 50% from the beginning of the year and natural gas up over 100%. Per the EIA website, the United States is exporting massive amounts of crude and refined products, the amount of exports of propane are up massively from ten years ago. Meanwhile days of supply in the United States still exceeds the twenty year average.

With inflation scouring Americans pocket books, one can't help but realize how massively the cost of gasoline and petroleum byproducts effects the cost of things. We know according to the EIA that production is at a twenty year high, we know stocks of crude and crude products exceed twenty year averages. All the while global demand is projected to DECREASE next year. And yet US oil producers have intentionally idled oil production, have intentionally idled US refineries.

This folks is pure stock market speculation, resulting in massive profit taking by the oil companies who have idled large amounts of American production. All at the cost to the American people.

Biden has named replacements to the Commodities Futures Trading Commission and has promised to undo the gutting of their budget by Trump. Confirming Biden's CFTC nominees needs to be a priority as soon as Republicans stop trying to cause our nation to default.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_sum_sndw_dcus_nus_w.htm

https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/steo/report/global_oil.php

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-13/biden-poised-to-name-cftc-picks-to-fill-three-democratic-seats

[Tgo01]

Uncontrolled speculation has oil prices up 50% from the beginning of the year and natural gas up over 100%. Per the EIA website, the United States is exporting massive amounts of crude and refined products, the amount of exports of propane are up massively from ten years ago. Meanwhile days of supply in the United States still exceeds the twenty year average.

With inflation scouring Americans pocket books, one can't help but realize how massively the cost of gasoline and petroleum byproducts effects the cost of things. We know according to the EIA that production is at a twenty year high, we know stocks of crude and crude products exceed twenty year averages. All the while global demand is projected to DECREASE next year. And yet US oil producers have intentionally idled oil production, have intentionally idled US refineries.

This folks is pure stock market speculation, resulting in massive profit taking by the oil companies who have idled large amounts of American production. All at the cost to the American people.

Biden has named replacements to the Commodities Futures Trading Commission and has promised to undo the gutting of their budget by Trump. Confirming Biden's CFTC nominees needs to be a priority as soon as Republicans stop trying to cause our nation to default.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_sum_sndw_dcus_nus_w.htm

https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/steo/report/global_oil.php

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-13/biden-poised-to-name-cftc-picks-to-fill-three-democratic-seats

Every fucking time. EVERY fucking time gas prices sky rocket under a Democrat people jump on the “oh it’s the speculators that are causing the price increase!”

Anytime gas prices go up during a Republican, even if it’s just a few pennies, the Democrats and media scream about what failures the Republican president is.

Biden has practically declared war on domestic oil producers and is reimplementing many of the costly regulations that Trump rolled back. Stop defending Biden as he literally makes your life and the lives of poor people even worse with his dumb crusade against American companies.

[beldannon5]

Biden does seem to be screwing us without lube. What do i know though. I do know the pipeline was stopped, i do know gas prices are very high. I do know the Raiders are 3-0

[Seran]

Every fucking time. EVERY fucking time gas prices sky rocket under a Democrat people jump on the “oh it’s the speculators that are causing the price increase!”

Anytime gas prices go up during a Republican, even if it’s just a few pennies, the Democrats and media scream about what failures the Republican president is.

Biden has practically declared war on domestic oil producers and is reimplementing many of the costly regulations that Trump rolled back. Stop defending Biden as he literally makes your life and the lives of poor people even worse with his dumb crusade against American companies.

Let's just go through some of the idiot things you've said: Everything.

Precisely what has been rolled back by Biden that made things easier for domestic crude producers? Oil production exploration credits still exist, expert of oil wasn't curtailed, fracking remains largely unregulated (still).

In the meantime, America produces more oil than it consumes and offloads a great deal more of its domestic oil and imports lighter crude for easier refining. Oil producers are swimming in producing oil pads and are enjoying a 100% increase in oil price, so much so they have idled wells to maintain a lean supply. Second, as so many oil producers are also downstream oil refiners, by artificially limiting supply of crude and resulting distillates, they've maintain massive price spikes. The EIA can show you by week just how much idled production there is and just how high the spread is on refining. Not that you've ever pursued data to support your positiins.

[Seran]

Biden does seem to be screwing us without lube. What do i know though. I do know the pipeline was stopped, i do know gas prices are very high. I do know the Raiders are 3-0

Piped oil was for export,
An existing set of pipelines already transports Canadian crude,
Gas prices were high beginning with Trump,
The Raiders won't win their division.

[Tgo01]

Piped oil was for export

Christ almighty. Do you have even a single clue of how things work?


Gas prices were high beginning with Trump

That's funny, I remember gas prices being around 2 dollars when Biden snaked his way into the White House.

[Parkbandit]

Please educate yourself.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Sorry.

Hahahahahahaa.

hahaha.

haha.

Someone sees a title opening... way to step it up

[Parkbandit]

Piped oil was for export,

Please take a beginning Economics course. Just learn Supply/Demand.


Gas prices were high beginning with Trump

Gas prices are currently higher than anytime during the the time of President Trump.

Try again?

[Gelston]

Gas prices were high beginning with Trump,

This is 100% false. Do you even check your facts? Gas prices during the PResidency of Trump were some of the lowest gas prices, when taking in account inflation, in the human history of gas being sold. It was actually too low, and costing oil field industry workers their jobs.

[Methais]

Let's just go through some of the idiot things you've said: Everything.

Precisely what has been rolled back by Biden that made things easier for domestic crude producers? Oil production exploration credits still exist, expert of oil wasn't curtailed, fracking remains largely unregulated (still).

In the meantime, America produces more oil than it consumes and offloads a great deal more of its domestic oil and imports lighter crude for easier refining. Oil producers are swimming in producing oil pads and are enjoying a 100% increase in oil price, so much so they have idled wells to maintain a lean supply. Second, as so many oil producers are also downstream oil refiners, by artificially limiting supply of crude and resulting distillates, they've maintain massive price spikes. The EIA can show you by week just how much idled production there is and just how high the spread is on refining. Not that you've ever pursued data to support your positiins.

You might be a bigger cuck than cwolff. And that's no easy feat.

[Neveragain]

A run on the banks? That's asinine, what basis do you have for this claim? Banks present a secure, often interest bearing means for citizens to store, transfer and utilize their money. That will not change as a result of account balances exceeding a threshold being reported. Some may choose to go bank less to hide fraud, but then some may also choose to go back to horses and buggies to prevent state governments from requiring vehicle registration. That's personal choice.

It's the community banks and credit unions that are saying this will happen. They are also saying they can't afford to keep track of all these transactions. Everyone with a checking account will be getting a monthly audit.

You're ignorant AF.

[Tgo01]

It's the community banks and credit unions that are saying this will happen.

When Seran hears "bank" he can only conceive of large banks with hundreds of billions of dollars in assets, he forgets that a lot of people bank with small banks that only have a handful of branches in one small area. I can't even remember the last time I did business with a bank, I've been using a small credit union for almost two decades now.

[Seran]

It's the community banks and credit unions that are saying this will happen. They are also saying they can't afford to keep track of all these transactions. Everyone with a checking account will be getting a monthly audit.

You're ignorant AF.

Which community banks and credit unions.

[Neveragain]

Which community banks and credit unions.

Try using google, Stalin.

You're on the wrong side of history.

[Neveragain]

When Seran hears "bank" he can only conceive of large banks with hundreds of billions of dollars in assets, he forgets that a lot of people bank with small banks that only have a handful of branches in one small area. I can't even remember the last time I did business with a bank, I've been using a small credit union for almost two decades now.

Seran creams his pantaloons over communism.

[Seran]

Try using google, Stalin.

You're on the wrong side of history.

Got it, you're making it up.

[Parkbandit]

Got it, you're making it up.

Just prove it then. Prove he's making it up.. you know, like when you said this:


Gas prices were high beginning with Trump

Everyone knew you were full of shit.

[Neveragain]

Got it, you're making it up.

No, I'm just tired of doing the research for lazy communists.

[Shaps]

Also, think of secondary and tertiary effects...

Stage 1: Set limit to track all transactions $600 or more
Stage 2: Smaller banks/credit unions can't manage - they go out of business
Stage 3: Larger banks/credit unions expend massive time/$ to manage the oversight, reducing effectiveness
Stage 4: Government then recommends and makes the case, since the IRS is already so large and tracking such things, that a National Bank should be established to ensure better oversight and to make sure "the rich pay their fair share"
Stage 5: All citizens funds are placed into a National Bank, controlled by the Government

Call me crazy all you want... it will be tried eventually, if the building blocks are allowed to be set.

[Seran]

Also, think of secondary and tertiary effects...

Stage 1: Set limit to track all transactions $600 or more
Stage 2: Smaller banks/credit unions can't manage - they go out of business
Stage 3: Larger banks/credit unions expend massive time/$ to manage the oversight, reducing effectiveness
Stage 4: Government then recommends and makes the case, since the IRS is already so large and tracking such things, that a National Bank should be established to ensure better oversight and to make sure "the rich pay their fair share"
Stage 5: All citizens funds are placed into a National Bank, controlled by the Government

Call me crazy all you want... it will be tried eventually, if the building blocks are allowed to be set.

That's a pipe dream. Also this isn't "reporting all transactions over $600." this is reporting account balances once a year for any account that has had a total of $600 or more in total transactions. Any bank who creates monthly statements for their customers can do this without blinking. Furthermore they're already sending interest payment documents to the IRS and customers, so we know this wouldn't be a hardship.

[Neveragain]

That's a pipe dream. Also this isn't "reporting all transactions over $600." this is reporting account balances once a year for any account that has had a total of $600 or more in total transactions. Any bank who creates monthly statements for their customers can do this without blinking. Furthermore they're already sending interest payment documents to the IRS and customers, so we know this wouldn't be a hardship.

"Any account with over $600 in transactions in a year"

You live in your parents basement, that can be the only answer.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

this is reporting account balances once a year for any account that has had a total of $600 or more in total transactions

So... every banked person in America, except the incredibly poor who are unbanked, and the incredibly wealthy who will avoid this like Biden avoids the press.

I mean, I don't care that much if I'm honest, but why would the government need to investigate and or have insights into the middle and lower class, except to tax them more? And that is the least tin foil theory. Don't try to say this is to get the rich, because you know it isn't.

[Shaps]

So... every banked person in America, except the incredibly poor who are unbanked, and the incredibly wealthy who will avoid this like Biden avoids the press.

I mean, I don't care that much if I'm honest, but why would the government need to investigate and or have insights into the middle and lower class, except to tax them more? And that is the least tin foil theory. Don't try to say this is to get the rich, because you know it isn't.


Because it's a work around of the 4th Amendment: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized"


It would allow the Government 100% oversight into a persons "papers, and effects" without regard for "unreasonable searches and seizures".

Don't get it twisted... it's never just about what they say it's about... ie. "to make sure the rich are paying their fair share"... it's utter bullshit is what it is.

[Shaps]

https://www.npr.org/2021/09/29/1041493544/youtube-vaccine-misinformation-ban

"YouTube Is Banning All Content That Spreads Vaccine Misinformation"

They are an editor. They are not a town forum. No protections should apply.

You will listen to "State Media". "State Media" knows what you must and must not know. Any information shared that is not approved by "State Media" will be banned. This is for your own good. "State Media" cares about you. This is not censorship. If you claim this is censorship, "State Media" will ensure that your "misinformation" about it being censorship will be banned.

Understand?

Fun fact: "Editor's note: Google is among NPR's financial supporters."

[Shaps]

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/congress-is-about-to-kill-this-popular-retirement-tax-move-11632861718?siteid=yhoof2

"Congress is about to kill this popular retirement tax move"

"The bill “prohibits all employee after-tax contributions in qualified plans and prohibits after-tax IRA contributions from being converted to Roth regardless of income level, effective for distributions, transfers, and contributions made after Dec. 31, 2021,” reports the House Ways & Means Committee."

Not just the "rich". Not just those making over "$400k".

Remember: Your money (ie. time and effort) is not yours, it's theirs. Don't forget.

Also: Any "misinformation" disputing the fact that this is only to "make sure the wealthy are paying their fair share" will be banned.

[Seran]

So... every banked person in America, except the incredibly poor who are unbanked, and the incredibly wealthy who will avoid this like Biden avoids the press.

I mean, I don't care that much if I'm honest, but why would the government need to investigate and or have insights into the middle and lower class, except to tax them more? And that is the least tin foil theory. Don't try to say this is to get the rich, because you know it isn't.

No one is exempt, so saying it only applies to the poor and middle class based on conjecture that the wealthy will find a loophole is irrelevant.

USA Today wrote a great article about the lies and misinformation being passed around by the wealthy and lobbyists.


Fact check: Claim about the IRS monitoring bank accounts over $600 exaggerates reality

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/8411799002

[Seran]

Because it's a work around of the 4th Amendment: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized"


It would allow the Government 100% oversight into a persons "papers, and effects" without regard for "unreasonable searches and seizures".

Don't get it twisted... it's never just about what they say it's about... ie. "to make sure the rich are paying their fair share"... it's utter bullshit is what it is.

Tax audits, employers and banks reporting earnings and dividends are not a violation of due process or unreasonable searches, the courts have already ruled on this.

[Seran]

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/congress-is-about-to-kill-this-popular-retirement-tax-move-11632861718?siteid=yhoof2

"Congress is about to kill this popular retirement tax move"

"The bill “prohibits all employee after-tax contributions in qualified plans and prohibits after-tax IRA contributions from being converted to Roth regardless of income level, effective for distributions, transfers, and contributions made after Dec. 31, 2021,” reports the House Ways & Means Committee."

Not just the "rich". Not just those making over "$400k".

Remember: Your money (ie. time and effort) is not yours, it's theirs. Don't forget.

Also: Any "misinformation" disputing the fact that this is only to "make sure the wealthy are paying their fair share" will be banned.


This move by Congress, if it stays in the bill, has major implications. It means that they will effectively end IRA tax breaks for most people making more than about $140,000 if single (or $208,000 if married and filing jointly).

Closing tax loopholes so people can't avoid taxation is a great thing. Having a great tax advisor shouldn't mean you don't pay taxes, that's inhumane and the sort of autocracy our country was founded to escape.

[Neveragain]

Closing tax loopholes so people can't avoid taxation is a great thing. Having a great tax advisor shouldn't mean you don't pay taxes, that's inhumane and the sort of autocracy our country was founded to escape.

When our country was founded we had no income tax.

[Methais]

Hey Seran, on a scale of 1-10, how much do you trust the government?

Serious question.

[Seran]

Hey Seran, on a scale of 1-10, how much do you trust the government?

Serious question.

4

[Methais]

4

You sure put a lot of faith in a notoriously corrupt government for being a 4.

[Solkern]

You sure put a lot of faith in a notoriously corrupt government for being a 4.

What government isn’t notoriously corrupt? Lol

[Methais]

What government isn’t notoriously corrupt? Lol

No one's arguing that. It also has literally nothing to do with what's being talked about.

Seran: On a scale of 1-10, my government trust rating is about 4.

Also Seran: <BENDS OVER BACKWARDS TO BLINDLY JUSTIFY ALL OF BIDEN'S CORRUPT BULLSHIT WITH ANY WEAK EXCUSE HE CAN COME UP WHETHER IT MAKES SENSE OR NOT>

[Gelston]

What government isn’t notoriously corrupt? Lol

Denmark.

[Seran]

You sure put a lot of faith in a notoriously corrupt government for being a 4.

That's a very subjective interpretation.

[Methais]

That's a very subjective interpretation.

Considering the amount of unconditional bending over that you've been doing for Biden, not really.

[Shaps]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/m/2564c96a-53f9-303d-9ed8-8a2a2e816ad8/u-s-inflation-rises-sharply.html

"U.S. inflation rises sharply again in August and stays at 30-year high"

Oh wow... who couldn't have seen that coming... Good job Joe!! Fucking idiots... expecting career politicians to have any fucking clue whatsoever.

[Gelston]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/m/2564c96a-53f9-303d-9ed8-8a2a2e816ad8/u-s-inflation-rises-sharply.html

"U.S. inflation rises sharply again in August and stays at 30-year high"

Oh wow... who couldn't have seen that coming... Good job Joe!! Fucking idiots... expecting career politicians to have any fucking clue whatsoever.

Look at the price of frying oil. Restaurants are going to be forced to raise prices if they haven't already.

[Neveragain]

Look at the price of frying oil. Restaurants are going to be forced to raise prices if they haven't already.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/GreedyAgreeableDungenesscrab-max-1mb.gif

[Shaps]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/inside-americas-broken-supply-chain-204628616.html

"Inside America's broken supply chain"

Odd... think a couple months ago I mentioned something like this...

[Seran]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/inside-americas-broken-supply-chain-204628616.html

"Inside America's broken supply chain"

Odd... think a couple months ago I mentioned something like this...

You mean when you implied that delays in international shipping was creating a food shortage and it was disproven?

[Seran]

McConnell made an incredibly savvy move today in offering a temporary extension to the national debt limit. While Progressive, Moderate and Republicans posing as Democrats from Arizona and West Virginia squabbled over reconciliation, McConnell succinctly created a fight over debt, then proposed a solution.

By doing so, it highlighted just how stupidly unorganized the Democrats are and portrayed Senate Republicans as the only ones to get things done. It was a total political stunt, but a damned well played one.


Congress foresees short-term debt fix amid perilous standoff

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican and Democratic leaders edged back Wednesday from a perilous standoff over lifting the nation’s borrowing cap, with Democratic senators signaling they were receptive to an offer from Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell that would allow an emergency extension into December.

[Shaps]

Imagine a world where.....

Congress passes a stand-alone Debt Ceiling measure extending the credit line....

or the alternative (which one side wants currently)

Trying to force Congress to pass multiple legislative pieces along with a Debt Ceiling increase....

Who's at fault again?

[Shaps]

https://www.newsweek.com/democratic-pennsylvania-state-rep-proposes-requiring-vasectomies-age-40-1635925

"Democratic Pennsylvania State Rep. Proposes Requiring Vasectomies at Age 40"

"I will be introducing a bill inspired by @RepKellyCassidy that requires all inseminators to undergo #vasectomies within 6 weeks of having their third child or 40th birthday, whichever comes first."

Forced sterilization... which party is the Authoritarian one? They are fucking Communists looking to dictate every aspect of your life... this is not a fucking joke, and people need to wake the fuck up.

[Solkern]

https://www.newsweek.com/democratic-pennsylvania-state-rep-proposes-requiring-vasectomies-age-40-1635925

"Democratic Pennsylvania State Rep. Proposes Requiring Vasectomies at Age 40"

"I will be introducing a bill inspired by @RepKellyCassidy that requires all inseminators to undergo #vasectomies within 6 weeks of having their third child or 40th birthday, whichever comes first."

Forced sterilization... which party is the Authoritarian one? They are fucking Communists looking to dictate every aspect of your life... this is not a fucking joke, and people need to wake the fuck up.

The proposal is satire, according to Rabb, and is just meant to spark a conversation.

"It's levity on a very serious issue, but the bottom line is I want to create a conversation about how easily we accept government intervening into the health decisions of women, which should be between them and their family, and then saying what would it feel like if men were being regulated," he said.



Did you even read your own article? His tweet of “6 weeks” should have been a dead give away.

[Shaps]

The proposal is satire, according to Rabb, and is just meant to spark a conversation.

"It's levity on a very serious issue, but the bottom line is I want to create a conversation about how easily we accept government intervening into the health decisions of women, which should be between them and their family, and then saying what would it feel like if men were being regulated," he said.



Did you even read your own article?

He actually introduced it... perhaps someone... for "satire" should propose sterilizing women, instead of just providing birth control... I mean... it's just "satire" right?

Get the fuck outa here... "satire"...

So an elected official thinks it's just funny? It's just to "spark debate"? Please... if you don't think these jackasses won't try to force something like this, just like the other legislation that was introduced so that women can sue men if they get pregnant is a "joke" or "satire"... then you're just a fucking idiot.

Do you even pay attention? What they say, and what they do, are two different things... stop falling for the words coming out of their mouth.

[Methais]

The proposal is satire, according to Rabb, and is just meant to spark a conversation.

"It's levity on a very serious issue, but the bottom line is I want to create a conversation about how easily we accept government intervening into the health decisions of women, which should be between them and their family, and then saying what would it feel like if men were being regulated," he said.



Did you even read your own article? His tweet of “6 weeks” should have been a dead give away.

Someone else in Congress already did this a year or 2 ago, so that guy is really just recycling someone else's old jokes like a noob.



He actually introduced it... perhaps someone... for "satire" should propose sterilizing women, instead of just providing birth control... I mean... it's just "satire" right?

Get the fuck outa here... "satire"...

So an elected official thinks it's just funny? It's just to "spark debate"? Please... if you don't think these jackasses won't try to force something like this, just like the other legislation that was introduced so that women can sue men if they get pregnant is a "joke" or "satire"... then you're just a fucking idiot.

Do you even pay attention? What they say, and what they do, are two different things... stop falling for the words coming out of their mouth.

https://c.tenor.com/0iaAOtOyrY4AAAAC/you-need-to-relax-will-ferrell.gif

[Shaps]

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-10-03/give-amazon-and-facebook-a-seat-at-the-united-nations

"Give Amazon and Facebook a Seat at the United Nations"

"Given the scope of their ambitions and our dependence on them, behemoth brands should be treated, and held to account, for what they really are: commercial superpowers."

They tell you what they're doing...

[Shaps]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/havent-seen-anything-yet-food-082721480.html

""We haven't seen anything yet": Food prices continue to climb"

Taking Gelston's advice.. I'm just here to call people names and call out their stupidity... Hey Seran, remember when you said "there aren't any food supply shortages duhhhh"... that's like the fourth thing you've been wrong on this week alone....

Wait.. forgot the name calling... bitch!

Doing better Gelston?

[Tgo01]

There are for sure food shortages. The price of beef has gone up in my area by something like 50 cents a pound depending on the cut of steak it has gone up anywhere from 1 dollar to 3+ dollars a pound. Prices don't climb that high in a year unless there is a disruption in the supply chain somewhere.

Seran is an absolute moron if he claimed there aren't any food supply shortages. Just because most of us said they haven't seen anything like in that one video you posted doesn't mean everything is great. I have seen plenty of empty shelves for both food items and non-food items.

[Shaps]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/grocery-stores-could-face-supply-181327960.html

Another one for that cuck... and listen.. I hate the name calling, but Gelston had a point... so I don't want to disappoint him...

Hey Seran (and others)... you douchebag, get the point yet? You do realize that you're going to be caught up in this mess too right? All those "feel good" intentions and "emotions" are going to lead another society to collapse... great work on that "woke" agenda there buddy.

Hopefully some rational people come along and stop this train wreck from happening, but I doubt it... to many puppets that like drinking piss from the Democrat Party - it's like their extras on an R. Kelly video shoot.

Hope doing better on the name calling and insults! I'm trying!

LOL

[Parkbandit]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/grocery-stores-could-face-supply-181327960.html

Another one for that cuck... and listen.. I hate the name calling, but Gelston had a point... so I don't want to disappoint him...

Hey Seran (and others)... you douchebag, get the point yet? You do realize that you're going to be caught up in this mess too right? All those "feel good" intentions and "emotions" are going to lead another society to collapse... great work on that "woke" agenda there buddy.

Hopefully some rational people come along and stop this train wreck from happening, but I doubt it... to many puppets that like drinking piss from the Democrat Party - it's like their extras on an R. Kelly video shoot.

Hope doing better on the name calling and insults! I'm trying!

LOL

What does "woke" agenda have to do with not enough truck drivers?

[Solkern]

What does "woke" agenda have to do with not enough truck drivers?

Everything, god damnit. Truck drivers are mostly white, definitely racism.

[~Rocktar~]

What does "woke" agenda have to do with not enough truck drivers?

Same thing that woke has to do with a lot of the labor shortage, a bunch of entitled brat children thinking they are too good to do a tough job and they deserve $15 an hour pay on $2 an hour job skills with a 15 cent an hour work ethic. My brother the fence contractor pays well above minimum wage to start and most people start at over 15 an hour, he is clear that it's hard work, outside in the heat and cold and the only requirement is they show up and aren't drunk/high (no drug test, just can't be wasted while working), don't mouth off at work (can't piss off customers) and must be a US citizen. He still can't get people to show up to work.

Meanwhile, the parents and families of these entitled darlings of all ages along with the government support them.

I almost can't wait for the real social collapse that is coming and all these whiners get a real lesson in oppression, violence and hunger. Sad part is that it will hurt millions that don't deserve it.

I am for the meme of swapping on a 1 for 1 basis any of the woke kids in America for Hong Hong, Taiwanese or hell, Venezuelan citizens advocating for freedom.

[Neveragain]

Same thing that woke has to do with a lot of the labor shortage, a bunch of entitled brat children thinking they are too good to do a tough job and they deserve $15 an hour pay on $2 an hour job skills with a 15 cent an hour work ethic. My brother the fence contractor pays well above minimum wage to start and most people start at over 15 an hour, he is clear that it's hard work, outside in the heat and cold and the only requirement is they show up and aren't drunk/high (no drug test, just can't be wasted while working), don't mouth off at work (can't piss off customers) and must be a US citizen. He still can't get people to show up to work.

Meanwhile, the parents and families of these entitled darlings of all ages along with the government support them.

I almost can't wait for the real social collapse that is coming and all these whiners get a real lesson in oppression, violence and hunger. Sad part is that it will hurt millions that don't deserve it.

I am for the meme of swapping on a 1 for 1 basis any of the woke kids in America for Hong Hong, Taiwanese or hell, Venezuelan citizens advocating for freedom.

Honestly, I wouldn't pound posts for $15 an hour either.

I also think it's ridiculous when people want to pay people shit wages to people that handle their food.

[Seran]

Rising prices in the grocery store is the result of price manipulation by wholesalers. As shown by an investigation by the New York Times, ranchers are facing record low prices for their herd, while member of the bug four beef slaughterhouses are enjoying profits 6-8 times the industry norm. You've got to wonder at the blatant dishonesty of shit bags like Dreaven claiming a food shortage exists when supplies are being artificially limited by four companies who control 80% of the beef industry.

This in one places where President Biden can take the lead in requesting his Justice Department launch an investigation of anticompetitive practices, price fixing and collusion. Where it's clear an industry or a small number industries have a monopoly it's the place of the Federal Government to act.


These are heady times for the beef packing industry. Processors like JBS and Cargill are making as much as $1,000 in profit per head of cattle they slaughter and package into ground beef and steaks — well above the norm of $50 with occasional spikes to $150, according to analysts at RaboResearch.


About 1,700 miles to the east, Brad Kooima scans the 3,000 cattle in his feedlot in Rock Valley, Iowa, on the South Dakota border. These days, he’s losing $84 a head.

“The frustration for producers like myself is that you’re looking at a situation where demand for beef, domestically and globally, has never been this good,” Mr. Kooima, 63, said. “And we’re not making any money.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/06/23/business/beef-prices.amp.html

[Tgo01]

Rising prices in the grocery store is the result of price manipulation by wholesalers.

Holy fucking shit. Get the fuck out of here already. You are the most dishonest person I have ever come across.

When you don't have a bullshit excuse at the ready for why Biden is a complete failure you just make one up!

[~Rocktar~]

Honestly, I wouldn't pound posts for $15 an hour either.

I also think it's ridiculous when people want to pay people shit wages to people that handle their food.

Around here, it's a pretty dang good starting wage for someone with no skills.

[Seran]

Holy fucking shit. Get the fuck out of here already. You are the most dishonest person I have ever come across.

When you don't have a bullshit excuse at the ready for why Biden is a complete failure you just make one up!

Continue that false narrative dude. As always, your posts have absolutely no fact or substance.