How's Obama Going to Raise $4.3 Trillion?

[Keller]

Loop holes and cheating?

Because they keep getting paid more money than poor peope?

Wages are pretty difficult to shelter.

[Gan]

So Bush was voted into his second term by independents and democrats?

I'd love to see some sort of response to this...

Mostly by people who thought Kerry was a fake piece of elitist shit.

Responded to satisfy WB's desires.

Winner winner chicken dinner.

[Gan]

The rich pay a higher share of the tax burden yet for some mysterious and untold reason they continue to get richer.

Loop holes and cheating?

:facepalm:
Right, because motivation, drive, the will to succeed, education and the will to learn more are never factors of successful people who get paid.
If success could be found in a bottle, everyone would have it.

Because they keep getting paid more money than poor peope?

Wages are pretty difficult to shelter.

And why do they get paid more than poor people?

(sorry to interrupt the populist robin hood circle jerk session)

[Tsa`ah]

:facepalm:
Right, because motivation, drive, the will to succeed, education and the will to learn more are never factors of successful people who get paid.
If success could be found in a bottle, everyone would have it.

Let's not forget stashing it off-shore, unreported income, inherited wealth, slew of shelters, and gouging the working class ... just to name a few.

[Gan]

Let's not forget stashing it off-shore, unreported income, inherited wealth, slew of shelters, and gouging the working class ... just to name a few.

Thats a byproduct of the loopholes of Congress. Both sides.

[Kembal]

And I can't believe people are still believing his "95% of Americans won't pay a single penny more in taxes under an Obama administration". Hell, let's just say he's actually telling the truth for once and he really WILL propose tax "rebates" for everyone promised.. he has still said he's going to raise capital gains and dividends taxes.. which accounts for FAR more than 5% of Americans.

Well, yes....but seriously, how many people do you know that are going to pay capital gains taxes in the next few years? I'm pretty sure I'll be doing a carry forward on my losses for a while.

[DeV]

If success could be found in a bottle, everyone would have it.

It would be taxed.

And my post was merely pointing out a widely known fact.

Why you consider it a diss against the tools of motivation, determination, education, and a powerful will to succeed is beyond me. Obviously the wealthy drive the American economy, but let's not forget that the middle-class ride it just as hard.

Every time someone gets all up in arms about how the wealthy are being over-taxed and treated so unfairly I can't help but think of CEO compensation.

[Gan]

It would be taxed.

And my post was merely pointing out a widely known fact.

Why you consider it a diss against the tools of motivation, determination, education, and a powerful will to succeed is beyond me. Obviously the wealthy drive the American economy, but let's not forget that the middle-class ride it just as hard.

Every time someone gets all up in arms about how the wealthy are being over-taxed and treated so unfairly I can't help but think of CEO compensation.

I think I only included your post for context. It was not meant as a dis in as much as I am highlighting the fact that income is not the only difference in rich people and poor people.

And yes, I think some of the CEO compensation that is being paid out right now is stupid insane; however, the only way I know of to mitigate that from happening is to encourage more employee owned participation that way the share holders would be willing to reward the workers more than lumping it all in the pay of the CEO.

[Parkbandit]

Well, yes....but seriously, how many people do you know that are going to pay capital gains taxes in the next few years? I'm pretty sure I'll be doing a carry forward on my losses for a while.

I will.

[ElanthianSiren]

Mostly by people who thought Kerry was a fake piece of elitist shit.

Responded to satisfy WB's desires.

Then those same people supported the Bush tax policies via supporting him.

IMO Obama will probably cut defense also. Those who hold defense as a sacred cow may begin complaining now. The truth is that every administrative set has their sacred programs IMO, and none of them are good with money.