#winning

[Suppressed Poet]

You wouldn't believe it if I told you. But I will anyway. During WW2, the Allies and Soviets invaded Persia, or Iran, and overthrew its government so that the country could be used as a supply route and to control its oil. After the war, Iran's oil interests were divided between the Soviets and mostly British companies on terms that were highly unfavorable to Iran. Iran began to democratize. They had open elections with a secular, progressive government, including elected women who spoke and were respected members of Parliament. The government, among other things, wanted to nationalize its oil resources, taking them back from foreign powers. Because of potential disruption of oil supplies, the CIA orchestrated the overthrow of Iran's democratic government and replaced that government with a brutal dictator, who was hated so much that he was overthrown by the revolutionaries who control and oppress Iran today. This short summary leaves out a lot of interesting plot twists! It's a sad tale, but fascinating and, more importantly, cautionary.

Iran was supplying oil to the Axis powers and the Allies invaded. British and Soviet occupation ended in 1946. I don’t see how this is at all relevant to the situation in Ukraine today, but I suppose you can draw parallels to just about anything.

[ClydeR]

I don’t see how this is at all relevant to the situation in Ukraine today, but I suppose you can draw parallels to just about anything.

I'm probably the first person on the internet to make the connection. Now that I've posted, it will spread like wildfire. You'll see.

[Suppressed Poet]

I'm probably the first person on the internet to make the connection. Now that I've posted, it will spread like wildfire. You'll see.

The internet vs your retarded Persia connection:

[Furryrat]

The only parallel I see is that a Democratic president (Carter) interfered in Iranian politics and the result was utterly disastrous for the world. The Obama/Biden agenda interfered in Ukraine and the same thing happened.

Great job Clyde for pointing that out.

[Methais]

He will give credit to Biden for ending the war... since Kamala was the Ukraine Czar.

IT'S BIDEN'S POLICIES JUST NOW STARTING TO KICK IN OMG OMG!!!!!!

[Methais]

Give it a week or two. One of us is wrong.

I’m going to give it to you straight: Ukraine has no leverage. They can’t continue without the support of the USA, and Europe to a lesser extent. They have been a useful meat grinder against our mortal enemy but that usefulness is beginning to fade along with their military aged males. It’s time to make peace. They will do what we (USA and Europe to a lesser extent) tell them to do, else they will get steamrolled by Russia when their support is cut off.

TDLR: Ukraine is everyone's bitch

[Suppressed Poet]

TDLR: Ukraine is everyone's bitch

Exactly.

Sucks to be a non-NATO country in the old combloc.

[Parkbandit]

It sounded like they were close to a ceasefire and resolution, according to who? Trump? Because in Russia news and media and from the president of Russia himself, they didn’t discuss shit, and he said it openly on TV, and not behind closed doors.
We both know Trump is a pathological liar, and he’s lying about this as well.

You're hilariously infected. And I love it. Hope it's contagious and then your wife's bf will catch it.

How can you be close to a ceasefire when one of the countries involved wasn’t involved in the “discussion”?

You act like it’s America and Russia at war, and needing a ceasefire and resolution…pretty sure Ukraine needs to be in the talks for it to happen, cause you know.. they are the ones fighting?

We're funding it.

That’s like your wife and your kid’s teacher planning a fantastic trip to Disney world for a week for you and the kids, on your dime.

Doesn’t work that way.

wut? There sounds like a story there....

[Methais]

You act like it’s America and Russia at war, and needing a ceasefire and resolution…pretty sure Ukraine needs to be in the talks for it to happen, cause you know.. they are the ones fighting?

That’s like your wife and your kid’s teacher planning a fantastic trip to Disney world for a week for you and the kids, on your dime.

How does this add up when Ukraine isn't paying for jack shit?

I'm totally ok with giving Ukraine $0 and letting them have peace talks with Russia on their own.

[Parkbandit]

How does this add up when Ukraine isn't paying for jack shit?

I'm totally ok with giving Ukraine $0 and letting them have peace talks with Russia on their own.

Oh.. I read it as his wife and his kid's teacher went off to vacation together and poor poor Soykern had to pay for it.