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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    Didn't explain anything. I asked you a question. What do you want the Biden administration to do about it?
    My answer to this would be the Biden administration should simply get out of Israel’s way. We can support Israel as an ally. Let them defend themselves without trying to force them into an uneasy ceasefire & stop the rhetoric of what we may do if they go too far. Israel is quite good at & capable of responding to this kind of aggression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet View Post
    My answer to this would be the Biden administration should simply get out of Israel’s way. We can support Israel as an ally. Let them defend themselves without trying to force them into an uneasy ceasefire & stop the rhetoric of what we may do if they go too far. Israel is quite good at & capable of responding to this kind of aggression.
    Are they really in Israel's way though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    Didn't explain anything. I asked you a question. What do you want the Biden administration to do about it?
    Really? Exactly where did you ask me what I wanted the Biden administration to do about it?

    Explain again so simply how 100 cruise missiles is no big deal.
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    Remember, they'll tell you exactly what they're doing.. if you but listen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    Are they really in Israel's way though?
    I’d say we kind of are. On one side of the coin we are supporting Israel as we should. On the other side, this administration has been very critical of how Israel is prosecuting this war. We tell them you can’t do this, or you need to limit civilian casualties (more so then they already do), and we’re pushing them to agree to a ceasefire in which the other side doesn’t even agree to. If it were America defending itself from terrorist organizations like Hamas & Hezbollah, would we show as much restraint or let someone dictate to us how we should defend ourselves? I think not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage View Post
    Really? Exactly where did you ask me what I wanted the Biden administration to do about it?

    Explain again so simply how 100 cruise missiles is no big deal.
    Let's say I'm asking you now, since you didn't pick it up before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet View Post
    I’d say we kind of are. On one side of the coin we are supporting Israel as we should. On the other side, this administration has been very critical of how Israel is prosecuting this war. We tell them you can’t do this, or you need to limit civilian casualties (more so then they already do), and we’re pushing them to agree to a ceasefire in which the other side doesn’t even agree to. If it were America defending itself from terrorist organizations like Hamas & Hezbollah, would we show as much restraint or let someone dictate to us how we should defend ourselves? I think not.
    Well, we are the US, not Israel. We don't rely on Israel or others to exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    Well, we are the US, not Israel. We don't rely on Israel or others to exist.
    Fair point on the difference.

    To better articulate, I think this conflicting rhetoric from the Biden admin publicly cautioning if not outright scolding Israel for the way they are conducting this war is sending mixed messages if not outright emboldening our shared enemies to retaliate. I’m not sure Iran would have launched those missiles if they 100% knew we had their back. As you said and I agree with you on, Iran launched those missiles for a political theater show of strength because they knew they could get away with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet View Post
    Fair point on the difference.

    To better articulate, I think this conflicting rhetoric from the Biden admin publicly cautioning if not outright scolding Israel for the way they are conducting this war is sending mixed messages if not outright emboldening our shared enemies to retaliate. I’m not sure Iran would have launched those missiles if they 100% knew we had their back. As you said and I agree with you on, Iran launched those missiles for a political theater show of strength because they knew they could get away with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    Let's say I'm asking you now, since you didn't pick it up before.
    Naw, because that was never my point and you getting all puffy about changing the topic isn't really my thing. But thanks for down playing the attack again. Just a bunch of cruise missiles, nothing to see here.
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