Things that made you laugh today (Political Version)

[ClydeR]

Trump making up random poll numbers in the spin room..

https://www.instagram.com/thetnholler/reel/C_wx8X0vOeq/

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

They don't hire felons. And they especially don't hire felons found by two juries to have committed sexual assault. Any daycare operator who saw Trump's court record wouldn't even let him on the property.

You are just making shit up now.

[Suppressed Poet]

They don't hire felons. And they especially don't hire felons found by two juries to have committed sexual assault. Any daycare operator who saw Trump's court record wouldn't even let him on the property.

Trump is not guilty of any crime of sexual assault. Nice try though.

[ClydeR]

Republicans are not unified on banning abortion. There are not enough hardline conservatives to pass a national abortion ban. It’s not going to happen and you are just repeating fear mongering of MSNBC. I hope you can take comfort in that fact if/when Trump wins and the Republicans have a majority in both chambers of Congress.

Don't assume that a national abortion ban would be in its own separate bill. More likely is that a very narrow House majority would force the Speaker to put it in a must-pass bill to keep the government open and the military funded. It could pass. Trump knows that, which is why he refused to say whether or not he would sign it and why he disavowed contrary assurances by Vance.

[Suppressed Poet]

Don't assume that a national abortion ban would be in its own separate bill. More likely is that a very narrow House majority would force the Speaker to put it in a must-pass bill to keep the government open and the military funded. It could pass. Trump knows that, which is why he refused to say whether or not he would sign it and why he disavowed contrary assurances by Vance.

He did not answer because wanted to avoid pissing off the ultra conservative base of the Republican Party with speaking the truth, which is no he would not. Your theory has as much of a chance of occurring as Trump replacing Vance as the VP before the election…0.

Can Kamala or Democrats answer at what point should recreational abortion not be allowed? 8 months? 9 months? At birth? She doesn’t want to answer that one either because she is stuck between the majority and ultra liberals.

[Solkern]

I've been trying to find that exact quote from Vance, but I haven't found it.

I have found these that were reported back a handful of weeks ago:


https://www.politico.com/news/2024/0...-veto-00176281

As you can see, here Vance does not say that "Trump told me" or that "He spoke to Trump about it".



https://www.nbclosangeles.com/decisi...n-ban/3495496/



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...ban-rcna168084

I'm not seeing anywhere that Trump actually told Vance he would veto a national abortion ban. Are you sure that media isn't taking something out of context to put a spin on it to fit their agenda?

Out of the times I've seen Vance speak I don't recall him ever putting words in Trump's mouth. He's a smart speaker. I haven't listened to everything he's said before so I could be wrong, but so far he's been on top of his game.

Ok, so who did he say it to? Did he just randomly say in a room that Vance happened to be in?

The word explicitly… by definition: stated clearly and in detail, leaving no room for confusion or doubt.
Shows otherwise, that Vance indeed heard it from Trump himself, and there is absolutely no confusion or doubt about what Trump would do.

I personally think you are right and Vance doesn’t misspeak, I think Trump threw his ass under a bus to to avoid taking responsibility for what he said to Vance and others about an abortion ban. Even Vance seemed to be confused about it, when he was asked about it afterwards, and quickly changed topics.


https://www.politico.com/news/2024/0...-veto-00176281

Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance said he expects Donald Trump would veto a federal abortion ban as president should one land on his desk.

“I think he would. He said that explicitly that he would,” the Ohio senator told host Kristen Welker in an interview that aired Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

[ClydeR]

Out of the times I've seen Vance speak I don't recall him ever putting words in Trump's mouth. He's a smart speaker. I haven't listened to everything he's said before so I could be wrong, but so far he's been on top of his game.

I know what happened. Vance was asked if Trump would veto a national abortion ban. Vance tried to dodge the question by saying that Trump was not in favor of a national abortion ban. Trump had said so explicitly. But the interviewer pressed. Van then said if a President is not in favor of something then, logically, the President would veto it. That was not clear enough, so the interviewer pressed again. Finally, Vance, probably putting together his prior statements, said Trump would veto it and Trump had said so explicitly. The interviewer than said she did not believe Trump had ever said so explicitly in public and asked Vance if Trump had said so to Vance in private. Vance then pivoted to a slightly different issue and never answered the last question about whether or not Trump has said in private to Vance that Trump would veto an abortion ban. Vance also never retracted his statement that Trump had explicitly said Trump would veto an abortion ban.

Here it is in full..

KRISTEN WELKER:

Let's talk about another big issue. It was talked about at the Democratic National Convention, it's being talked about on the campaign trail: abortion. Democrats made the case this week and beyond this week that Donald Trump, if elected, will impose a federal ban on abortion if he wins. Now, Donald Trump says he won't. But can you commit, Senator, sitting right here with me today, that if you and Donald Trump are elected that you will not impose a federal ban on abortion?

SEN. JD VANCE:

I can absolutely commit that, Kristen. And Donald Trump has been as clear about that as possible. I -- I think it's important to step back and say, "What has Donald Trump actually said on the abortion question, and how is it different from what Kamala Harris and the Democrats have said?" Donald Trump wants to end this culture war over this particular topic. If Kamala, excuse me, if California wants to have a different abortion policy from Ohio, then Ohio has to respect California, and California has to respect Ohio. Donald Trump's view is that we want the individual states, and their individual cultures, and their unique political sensibilities to make these decisions because we don't want to have a nonstop federal conflict over this issue. The federal government ought to be focused on getting food prices down, getting housing prices down. Issues, of course, where Kamala Harris has been a total disaster. So I think Donald Trump is right. We want the federal government to focus on these big economic and immigration questions. Let the states figure out their own abortion policies.

KRISTEN WELKER:

Let me just follow up with you a little bit on that point. Because I've been talking to Republicans, including Senator Lindsey Graham just last week, who have made it very clear that if Donald Trump is elected, if you are elected, they will continue to press this point. Senator Graham said to me, "I'm going to keep saying that there should be a federal ban." If such a piece of legislation landed on Donald Trump's desk, would he veto it?

SEN. JD VANCE:

Well, I think it would be very clear he would not support it. I mean, he's said that explicitly --

KRISTEN WELKER:

But would he veto it?

SEN. JD VANCE:

Yes, I mean, if you're not supporting it as the President of the United States, you fundamentally have to veto it --

KRISTEN WELKER:

So he would veto a federal abortion ban?

SEN. JD VANCE:

I think he would. [HIGHLIGHT]He's said that explicitly that he would. And again, Lindsey --

KRISTEN WELKER:

I don't think he's ever said explicitly that he would. He's said that to you?

SEN. JD VANCE:

Lindsey Graham, Kristen, I would be surprised – I mean again, I need to see the context on what Lindsey Graham said. Because Lindsey Graham himself has not advocated a federal abortion ban. Lindsey Graham has advocated --

KRISTEN WELKER:

A 15-week federal abortion ban --

SEN. JD VANCE:

– a federal minimum standard. Now, to be clear, that is not Donald Trump's view. Donald Trump disagrees with Lindsey Graham on this. But no Republican, at least no Republican with any reasonable power, is saying that we should have a complete national abortion ban. I haven't heard that from any of my colleagues. And to be clear, Donald Trump I think has staked his position and made it very explicit. He wants this to be a state decision, states are going to make this determination themselves.

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[Parkbandit]

I just love how the left is fretting over not being able to kill as many black babies as they used to.

How they long for the days where they didn't need permission to do it. Fuck you Lincoln!

[Suppressed Poet]

I just love how the left is fretting over not being able to kill as many black babies as they used to.

How they long for the days where they didn't need permission to do it. Fuck you Lincoln!

Democrats be like:

[Gelston]

They don't hire felons. And they especially don't hire felons found by two juries to have committed sexual assault. Any daycare operator who saw Trump's court record wouldn't even let him on the property.

Trump can be a daycare employee in Florida. It doesn't cover all felonies, just certain ones, mostly having to do with sex crimes.