Script Checks

[Neveragain]

We're not talking about people running around saying the N word. The complaint was that an MA crew was healing and purifying gems and that ruined BLZrizz's ability to "RP on occasion." You know, because crowded nodes are a brand new problem that never existed before MA crews and Lich. /s

Why not play the shattered instance?

(I know why, I just want to hear you say it.)

[Ramrod]

You don't MA but you're a champion of MA crews apparently.

I'm not an MA person and I'm not a champion of them either. I honestly don't care. They don't bother me. Ambients, familiars, mounts, scripted items and countless other scroll-inducing mechanics don't bother me either. I also realize that the state of the game is due to a huge number of factors and things like botting, MA groups, etc are symptoms of a problem rather than the problem itself. Fixing the underlying issues would have a drastic effect on Simu's bottom line though- the people with 10+ accounts logged in 10+ hours/day are the ones keeping the game going.

These problems don’t exist where the MA crews aren’t.

And yes loot pressure, spawn mechanics, et al does happen

So which is it?

And MHO, GM events are infrequent and intermittent

It's quite convenient that those things never take place in HW. I bet if the MHO groups were in the Pipe Den and cleaning out HW in 20+ person groups you'd feel differently. Events, from GM-led invasions, adventuring, etc to MHO hunts happen almost every single day.

compared to the day in day out, mass spamming of an end game hunting area that destroys the loot and "adversely affects the gaming experience" of everyone else that is forced to be there.

No one is forcing you to be there.

"There are plenty of other RP opportunities, therefore don't feel bad about losing yours to an MA botter." Really?

Are you this bad at reading comprehension? I never said that. I never even implied that. No wonder screen scroll bothers you so much - you can barely read. You haven't lost anything. You're just playing the victim. You're on a personal crusade against MA groups and grasping at straws. Every single complaint you've listed (loot, scroll, spawn) exists outside of MA groups. Every single one. You even acknowledge that - "And yes loot pressure, spawn mechanics, et al does happen"

Come on with these terrible false equivalencies and non-sequiturs, it's like a logical fallacy machine up in here.

I'm not the one contradicting myself with every post.

It's clear that this isn't about screen scroll, loot or spawn rates, but rather you just don't like MA groups. If it's about screen scroll, let's talk about ambients, scripted gear, familiars, mounts, travel. If it's about loot, let's talk about loot pressure, loot cap and not being able to earn loot on lower level hunting grounds. Loot pressure really wouldn't matter if you could earn loot without earning exp. If it's about spawn rates, let's talk about how creature gen mechanics haven't been updated in an incredibly long time. It's not about those things though. It's about your personal hatred of MA crews because they're not playing a 30 year old text game the way you want them to.

I’m doing my part, by reporting and lobbying behind the scenes to get mechanics changed to discourage MA crews, but there’s only so much time in the day.

JFC that's fucking hilarious. "Only so much time in the day" to lobby Simutronics to change a 30 year old text game to chase off these noisy kids with their multiple accounts and their loud gem purifying music.

Also, for all your bitching, isn't Missiya your healer bot that you keep at the Pipe Den?

[Ramrod]

Why not play the shattered instance?

(I know why, I just want to hear you say it.)

Shattered sucks and everyone knows it.

Also, I don't have an MA crew. I'm surprised someone keeping a healer sitting in the Pipe Den is this mad about someone else doing it tbh.

[Ramrod]

It'a a fiction that someone can be 100% actually responsive to the game over multiple instances and not just using mechanical means to convey that.

Agreed, but that's already in policy. It's not enforced because they don't want to lose the profit. Every character is supposed to respond to the environment from "EACH character's perspective," which is humanly impossible beyond a few accounts.

Ex: What kind of shoes are you wearing?

Each character can't respond to that in a timely fashion if one person is answering for 10 characters.

The policy is there it's just not enforced. MA is good for business.

[Neveragain]

Shattered sucks and everyone knows it.

Also, I don't have an MA crew. I'm surprised someone keeping a healer sitting in the Pipe Den is this mad about someone else doing it tbh.

I don't keep any characters anywhere, I haven't played in years. Too many of their "GM's" are absolute dogshit.

[Ramrod]

I don't keep any characters anywhere, I haven't played in years. Too many of their "GM's" are absolute dogshit.

Apologies, I didn't mean you. Jivan/BLZrizz I'm pretty sure has a healer bot sitting in the Pipe Den...while complaining about MA ruining the Pipe Den.

Yeah, the game lacks any sort of overall direction/cohesiveness. The GM's don't even seem to be on the same page.

[BLZrizz]

Apologies, I didn't mean you. Jivan/BLZrizz I'm pretty sure has a healer bot sitting in the Pipe Den...while complaining about MA ruining the Pipe Den.

Yeah, the game lacks any sort of overall direction/cohesiveness. The GM's don't even seem to be on the same page.

Again with the false equivalencies lol. It’s a non hunting pocket healer that is manually activated. Not a script triggered one. Go in there and ask for healing and see which one automatically heals you (and is a violation of policy).

[drumpel]

I come across scripters all the time, most have decent scripts running and don't interfere with my gameplay. There are a few here and there that have shitty scripts running and they go about attacking critters that I'm already fighting. If it happens once, I ask them not to do it again without asking to help and I let it go, if it happens again, I resort to AOE spells to give them RT, if it happens a third time (which it hasn't reached that point for me yet) I report them.

Occasionally I'll find someone running some kind of script - trying to buy herbs or maybe trying to visit shops to build up citizenship status maybe, either way the player will run into the shop, not have enough silver and run out to the bank and repeat this over and over and over and over and over and over and over.....I try to interact with them asking if they need help, but it falls on deaf ears and they run in and out over and over and over and over..... So I resort to dragging them to another room in the shop (behind a curtain or door) and they get stuck there. If their group isn't open, I just report them.

I still hunt by hand - type out most commands so I'm actively watching and it surprises me when I get a helping hand (knocked down, stunned) and the person helping actual interacts with me (not just runs in, pulls me to my feet and runs off) or if I stop to help someone in that situation they actually respond and not just finish killing and run off to continue their script.

Those that want to script as much as they possibly can, go for it, just try to be courteous to others around you, even if you think they're just an AFK zombie. At least that's what I'd try to do. If I have gems to sing to I find a spot that no one else visits or a table. I don't want to be spamming everyone else with my mindless, repetitive tasks.

[Ramrod]

Again with the false equivalencies lol. It’s a non hunting pocket healer that is manually activated. Not a script triggered one. Go in there and ask for healing and see which one automatically heals you (and is a violation of policy).

After all your bitching about MA'ing, going so far to "lobby behind the scenes" to stop MA crews, you're MA'ing. Got it. You probably should have led with, "As someone running an MA crew...."

ahahahahahahahahahaha.

[BLZrizz]

After all your bitching about MA'ing, going so far to "lobby behind the scenes" to stop MA crews, you're MA'ing. Got it. You probably should have led with, "As someone running an MA crew...."

ahahahahahahahahahaha.

This reasoning ability is certainly consistent with what you’re demonstrated in the thread, thanks.