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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet View Post
    I expect that we make some kind of effort to reduce the over $33 trillion in debt. If we are going to help Israel, which I believe we both agree that we should, that money has to be taken from some other part of our budget. We can no longer afford to continue spend money we don’t have, especially in aid to a foreign nation.

    Tldnr; Democrats don’t control the House & elections have consequences. No more blank checks.
    Well no, Israelis are suffering, but that is what Republicans decided would happen.

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    if they are suffering then just approve the bill and presto, they have a lot of money in aid available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    You expect the Senate or Biden to approve anything but a clean bill, much less with the riders House Republicans are trying to hold Israel hostage over?
    OH BOY! U SO SMRT. Now do Ukraine!
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    The first positive from this war, Tucker Carlson using the term "cocksure" to describe Nikki Haleys foreign policy.



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    President brokers a temporary peace, release of American hostages, and the release of so many more non Americans kidnapped. Someone give him the Nobel Prize.

    US reveals ‘excruciating’ five-week negotiations behind Israel-Hamas deal


    A secret cell headed by CIA and Mossad chiefs, and multiple contacts between US President Joe Biden and leaders of Israel, Qatar, and Egypt underpinned an "excruciating" five weeks resulting in the truce agreement, a US official said.

    In a detailed account to reporters by a senior US official speaking on condition of anonymity, a picture has emerged of a tense international effort beset by sudden communication cutoffs with Hamas, disputes over hostage lists, and safety concerns on the ground.


    The US official said the "extremely excruciating five-week process" of negotiations began with a call from Qatar to Washington and the Israelis, in a bid to free some of the hostages snatched by Palestinian militants during their October 7 raids on Israel.


    On Wednesday, Israel and Hamas announced a truce deal allowing the release of at least 50 hostages held by Hamas in exchange for Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails.


    Qatar, which brokered the agreement, "asked that a cell be established to work on the issue very carefully, very secretly, together with the Israelis", the US official said.

    their formal list came up short: just 10 names.

    On November 9, the CIA's Burns rushed to Doha to help thrash out a deal text, but the identification of hostages remained a sticking point.


    Biden called the emir of Qatar, Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al-Thani, on November 12 and "made very clear that where we were was not enough," the US official said.


    Shortly afterwards, "Hamas produced the identifying criteria for the 50 hostages."


    As Israel's bombing of Gaza intensified and civilian deaths soared, Biden called Netanyahu on November 14 urging him to "move forward with this deal," and the prime minister ultimately agreed, the official said.


    But suddenly, with a deal in sight that day, "everything stalled again," the US official said. Hamas had broken off talks.

    Biden called the Qatari emir on November 17, according to the official, to make clear the deal "had to close."


    Two days later, the Americans met with Egyptian intelligence chief Abbas Kamel and received assurances from Hamas "closing the gaps," the US official said.


    "For the first time (they) really see this coming together."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    President brokers a temporary peace, release of American hostages, and the release of so many more non Americans kidnapped. Someone give him the Nobel Prize.
    I’m sure Biden worked real hard to earn his 10% as the big guy in this deal.

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    So Biden funds Hamas and Iran, then manages to secure a 4 day cease fire by only releasing a small number of hostages and you want him to receive the Nobel prize for this?

    You keep reminding everyone why you are the skidmark of humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    So Biden funds Hamas and Iran, then manages to secure a 4 day cease fire by only releasing a small number of hostages and you want him to receive the Nobel prize for this?

    You keep reminding everyone why you are the skidmark of humanity.
    Oh yeah, how could I forget? The 50 hostages being released is in exchange for 150 Hamas terrorists and "aid" (read money and other supplies going to Hamas) being sent to Gaza.

    Oh yes. Such a great deal that Biden brokered there. I'm just surprised he didn't also throw in "Netanyahu has to publicly apologize to Hamas for destroying their buildings and tunnels."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Oh yeah, how could I forget? The 50 hostages being released is in exchange for 150 Hamas terrorists and "aid" (read money and other supplies going to Hamas) being sent to Gaza.

    Oh yes. Such a great deal that Biden brokered there. I'm just surprised he didn't also throw in "Netanyahu has to publicly apologize to Hamas for destroying their buildings and tunnels."
    Hey... what do you expect... We traded a basketball player who committed an illegal act, for a mass merchant of death.

    But hey... they got the trade done!!

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    Republicans don't believe in helping anyone but corporate owners and billionaires. Gotcha.

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