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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaps View Post
    As for your cited "statistics"... You're wrong of course...

    Aid to Ukraine: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-...os-2023-10-05/

    " Support is falling among Americans of both major political parties for supplying Ukraine with weapons, a warning sign for Kyiv, which relies heavily on U.S. arms to fight against a Russian invasion, according to a new Reuters/Ipsos poll. The two-day poll, which closed on Wednesday, showed only 41% of respondents agreed with a statement that Washington "should provide weapons to Ukraine," compared to 35% who disagreed and the rest unsure."

    Last I checked 41% is not a "majority".

    Abortion issue: People can still get abortions... it's not outlawed... it's based upon their ELECTED LEADERS in their STATES. The power in the hands of the PEOPLE is where it's supposed to reside... as opposed to at the Federal Level.

    I get your strawman argument talking points though... it's part and parcel for the Democratic Party and the Left.
    Quiet funny.

    WHY IS CONGRESS DEBATING WHETHER TO CONTINUE UKRAINE AID?

    While public opinion polls show that most Americans still back aid for Ukraine, that support is eroding.

    A relatively small but vocal group of Republicans has criticized Ukraine assistance from the start, accusing the government in Kyiv of failing to sufficiently fight corruption, which Ukrainian and U.S. officials deny. They also argue that as the United States faces steep budget deficits, the federal government should be spending money at home or to boost its ability to compete with China.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/whats-...id-2023-10-03/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    The Constitution is not the Declaration of Independence. (I'm not at all surprised that you don't know this)
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    "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." ~ The Constitution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    Oh don’t give me that shit with the left this and left that. It’s funny you claim you aren’t a Republican, but we all know you are. Republicans can care less about what the American people want.

    Majority of Americans want abortion, Republicans in Congress want to completely remove it.
    Majority of Americans still support sending aid to Ukraine, republicans in Congress don’t want to.

    Don’t play it off as it’s just the left.

    We have rallies across America, on the left and right, over a lot of stupid shit, because frankly the majority of the U.S. population knows absolutely nothing outside their own backyard. It’s called conformity.

    I’m a democrat, and I 100% support Israel, and hope they continue to destroy the Gaza Strip.
    The majority of Americans want us to stop throwing all of our money at the rest of the world and worry about our own shit first, but democrats can't stop being obsessed with dumb shit like Ukraine and supporting millions of illegals with taxpayer money, and now we're apparently funding both Hamas and Israel, as there is a 0% chance that Hamas won't end up with the $100m Biden just announced for Gaza.



    Biden: "I'm not concerned about the strength of the dollar, I'm concerned about the rest of the world."

    ^ Why should anyone support that type of thinking? That seems to be the current democrat platform that you happily vote for.


    Feel free to dig up the full video if you think that clip is being taken out of context or something.


    Majority of Americans still support sending aid to Ukraine...
    This isn't true either. Maybe at first, sure, because people are gullible and keep trusting the government, but at this point, Ukraine support only applies to brainwashed retards like Seran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    Quiet funny.

    WHY IS CONGRESS DEBATING WHETHER TO CONTINUE UKRAINE AID?

    While public opinion polls show that most Americans still back aid for Ukraine, that support is eroding.

    A relatively small but vocal group of Republicans has criticized Ukraine assistance from the start, accusing the government in Kyiv of failing to sufficiently fight corruption, which Ukrainian and U.S. officials deny. They also argue that as the United States faces steep budget deficits, the federal government should be spending money at home or to boost its ability to compete with China.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/whats-...id-2023-10-03/
    You showed a poll showing a "majority".

    I showed a poll from the same time frame showing a "minority".

    Polls can be whatever they want them to be... wouldn't you say?

    So since one says one thing, and another says the opposite... wouldn't logic tell you it falls in the middle... which doesn't give either a "majority"?

    But hey... all the polls said Hillary Clinton was going to win also...

    It's all good though... I know you have some skin in the game over in that part of the world... I get you want the money to keep flowing.


    Oh... and to answer your bolded question... because that is what Congress is supposed to do? Debate topics and where American Tax Payer dollars should go? Pretty simple answer, thought you'd know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Methais View Post
    The majority of Americans want us to stop throwing all of our money at the rest of the world and worry about our own shit first, but democrats can't stop being obsessed with dumb shit like Ukraine and supporting millions of illegals with taxpayer money, and now we're apparently funding both Hamas and Israel, as there is a 0% chance that Hamas won't end up with the $100m Biden announced for Gaza.



    Biden: "I'm not concerned about the strength of the dollar, I'm concerned about the rest of the world."

    ^ Why should anyone support that type of thinking? That seems to be the current democrat platform that you happily vote for.


    Feel free to dig up the full video if you think that clip is being taken out of context or something.
    In the states I prefer a weak dollar over a strong dollar, better for our economy, abroad I prefer a strong dollar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    The Constitution is not the Declaration of Independence. (I'm not at all surprised that you don't know this)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." ~ The Constitution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaps View Post
    Getting the wrong things done, is "getting something done"... I suppose.
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet View Post
    This.
    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    No one believes at all you’re an independent, you can seriously stop with the bullshit.
    Independents are really only Republicans who don't know how to spell the word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    At least we get shit done!

    I support quite a lot of Republicans, and I’ve voted Republican before. Both parties have their crazies. AOC and the squad, Boebert, Greene and others on the right.
    When the "shit you get done" is fail and destruction, it's not exactly something to brag about.
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    I believe Shaps saying he is an Independent.

    Solkern, as you previously pointed out and I conceded as fair criticism, the Republicans often don’t follow their campaign promises to constituents that got them elected. Conservatives want smaller federal government as our founding fathers intended. Most Republican politicians talk the talk but don’t walk the walk when they are in office. Some choose to work outside the party to bring about change to correct this misalignment between voters and politicians while others seek to reform from inside. We’re all sick of the NeoCon New World Order types. That’s why Trump gained the Republican nomination in 2016 and won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    Independents are really only Republicans who don't know how to spell the word.
    You of all people are in no place to talk shit about literally anyone's spelling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    In the states I prefer a weak dollar over a strong dollar, better for our economy, abroad I prefer a strong dollar.
    Why is a weak dollar better for our economy domestically?

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