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    Quote Originally Posted by Anebriated View Post
    Isn't that kind of the point though? where do you draw the line? You can say Ukraine dates Russia and has claim to the land, but wouldn't the others as well?
    Interesting point. While Russia and Ukraine do have close ties, Ukraine is its own country, it was founded before Russia, and has a long history not under Russian “rule” even then, when the Russian empire collapsed, they voided all claims and stakes to Ukraine, and 1991 reinforced that as well. Ukraine has always been in a union with Russia, the USSR was a collection of states, but not in the way America is, it’s was more like the EU in a way.

    One country claiming it has a “historical right” is bullshit. Or else China would have a claim to Eastern Russia, England ruled America for almost 150-200 years, Finland would have a stake for northern Russia. Etc etc

    No other country makes these “claims” that Russia makes, because they all know they are bullshit. Just like if England made the claim, you would laugh and call it bullshit, or if Russia made its claim for Alaska.
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    China is claiming Taiwan but that probably isnt the best example...

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1711313854138118366

    happened to stumble across this video this morning which spells out a lot. Whether you want to believe it or not is up to you. I like to read/watch as much as possible and see what I can poke holes in and this has definitely led me down some rabbit holes but the banker wars are why our world is where it is right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anebriated View Post
    China is claiming Taiwan but that probably isnt the best example...
    Haha, nope, it’s not. China has zero historical ties to that island. They only want it because the people who live there are/were Chinese. But I think it’s mainly because of TSMC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    Haha, nope, it’s not. China has zero historical ties to that island. They only want it because the people who live there are/were Chinese. But I think it’s mainly because of TSMC.
    /puts on tin foil hat



    just like Ukraine, the US has a lot of bio-labs in Taiwan and the entire world relies on their semi-conductors. China can deal a blow to the world and remove a threat from their doorstep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anebriated View Post
    /puts on tin foil hat



    just like Ukraine, the US has a lot of bio-labs in Taiwan and the entire world relies on their semi-conductors. China can deal a blow to the world and remove a threat from their doorstep.
    I’m 99% sure if China ever invaded Taiwan has everything backed up and ready to go in the states, last I checked the first thing Taiwan would do is blow up TSMC. I’m sure China knows this, plus watching Russia fail in Ukraine are the main reasons an invasion will never happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guister View Post
    When you stop to think about it, why are borders necessary?
    Without borders, nations do not exist. They are necessary if you don’t want to live in a world government. Maybe you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    Haha, nope, it’s not. China has zero historical ties to that island. They only want it because the people who live there are/were Chinese. But I think it’s mainly because of TSMC.
    This is not entirely true. The Qing dynasty ruled Taiwan for some two hundred years until Japan took it in the first Sino-Japanese war. It returned to Chinese control in 1945, and then there is the whole communists vs nationalist with the ROC fleeing there in 1949.

    That being said, China can’t have Taiwan. It’s too strategically important to the US, and I dare say worth going to war over if they invade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    You answer my question, by asking me a question? Or you just ignored my question, just to ask yours, then complain when I don’t answer, is that right?
    I suppose I could have just skipped the quote and opened with "Hey Solkern..." with no quote, since the quote was just so you'd see that I was asking you specifically, but I'll even go the extra mile for you here if it makes you feel better. And also to see how your next tapdance goes.

    Anyway...

    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern
    So, who’s to blame for the bombings, missile strikes, and killings in the Middle East under Trump’s presidency, and after the so called “Peace agreement” in the Middle East? You blame Biden for this, do you blame Trump for what happened during his presidency, or are you going to blame someone else?
    The people who are to blame, both under Trump and under Biden (and under Obama or Bush or Clinton, etc.) are the terrorists that are blowing shit up. Know why? Because they're pieces of shit and they've been pieces of shit for centuries longer than the US has even existed.


    Now that that's settled, let's try again. I'll even remove names from the question if that makes you feel better too.



    Hey Solkern, was the world in general more peaceful between 2017-2020 than it's been from 2021 going forward?

    It's a very simple yes or no question. Try to include that somewhere before your essay begins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guister View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRYZjOuUnlU

    This is an instructional video that summarizes the conflict and its (brief) history.

    Points: It is not a centuries-old conflict.

    Also, extremist dildo-suckers like Parkbandit are only making the problem worse because they are war mongering idiots coming down on one side.

    Fact: almost 7 million palestinians were displaced and turned into refugees when Israel was created after World War I.

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    Why is this fucker copying and pasting from wikipedia??
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