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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    Maybe I want to get a gun from a neighbor, and what? You seem to be missing the point. This law doesn’t stop you or infringe on your ability to get a gun at all. You can go to the store and get a gun. Zero issues.

    The problem seems to be for you, is “I want to get a gun from a neighbor, and I’m upset that I actually have to follow the same procedure that it would take to buy a gun from a store”

    You and others sit here and say we need to keep guns out of people with mental issues or ones that have felonies, and this rule closes a major loophole for them to acquire guns without any checks.

    So what happens when some dude with a mental issue buys a gun from a private citizen because he got turned down at a regular store and goes on a rampage at a school? Your argument of we need to keep the guns out of the hands of people with mental problems, won’t work anymore.
    Come on Solkern. You’re smart and reasonable. We may not agree on everything but you understand that making it so that exercising a right more difficult & cumbersome is infringement. You answered it yourself when you acknowledged it’s more of a pain in the ass.

    If some bureaucrats came up with a new rule that voting in a federal election requires physical voter registration to get a card, no mail in ballots, a literacy test, the requirement of some BS government mandated voter safety class, paying a tax, a waiting period, etc. in an effort to (possibly) prevent voter fraud…you would object. Why are you ok with those infringements on one constitutional right but not others?

    I hate unspeakable acts of violence and mass shootings just as much as you do. We’re both parents. I’m all for keeping guns out of the hands of criminals & the mentally ill, but I WILL NOT sacrifice our God-given constitutionally protected rights. They need to find a way to accomplish keeping guns out of the hands of the bad guys (and actually prosecuting criminals when they do violate the law) instead of the answer always being to chip away at more of the good guys’ freedom.

    A private individual selling some of his guns to another private individual (with no knowledge or reason to believe the buyer is a felon or mentally ill) doesn’t have the resources to do a NAICS check. They shouldn’t have to register as a FFL just to sell some of their personal property. Forcing them to do so is clearly an infringement and overstep. What is worse is that this is the ATF creating a new rule, not Congress.

    To answer your question, you know what they can do? Chicago has double digit gun homicides by gang bangers every week. Instead of fucking with law abiding Americans, why don’t they do some real law enforcement work and bust those thugs engaged in criminal activity? Go confiscate their guns. You have my full support in that.
    Last edited by Suppressed Poet; 09-05-2023 at 03:30 PM.

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