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    Well I guess we're about to see if the Alec Baldwin defense will work for a poor black person.

    tl;dr: a black woman was shoplifting at a Home Depot. A loss prevention dude confronted her, she pulled out a gun and shot him in the chest, killing him. She is now claiming the gun went off by accident.

    Do poor black people get to use the lame argument of "It was just an accident!" and get away with their crime? Or is that benefit afforded only to rich white liberals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Well I guess we're about to see if the Alec Baldwin defense will work for a poor black person.

    tl;dr: a black woman was shoplifting at a Home Depot. A loss prevention dude confronted her, she pulled out a gun and shot him in the chest, killing him. She is now claiming the gun went off by accident.

    Do poor black people get to use the lame argument of "It was just an accident!" and get away with their crime? Or is that benefit afforded only to rich white liberals?
    I’m 100% sure a conservative, has never said it was an accident when they shot someone. It’s only liberals that do that.
    Last edited by Solkern; 04-22-2023 at 06:16 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    I’m 100% sure a conservative, has never said it was an accident when they shot someone. It’s only liberals that do that.
    Dick Cheney shot an attorney in the face and chest and called it an accident

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    I’m 100% sure a conservative, has never said it was an accident when they shot someone. It’s only liberals that do that.
    Conservatives most assuredly do it too. Broad generalization fail. There's no accounting for assholes on either side of the aisle.

    This guy recently shot his girlfriend. Claims gun cleaning accident. Sherrif's office closes the case without an investigation, while the family of the victim is objecting and fund raising to get a PI. Trying to implore SBI to get involved.

    https://wlos.com/news/local/polk-cou...her-mill-creek
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaalizmo View Post
    Conservatives most assuredly do it too. Broad generalization fail. There's no accounting for assholes on either side of the aisle.

    This guy recently shot his girlfriend. Claims gun cleaning accident. Sherrif's office closes the case without an investigation, while the family of the victim is objecting and fund raising to get a PI. Trying to implore SBI to get involved.

    https://wlos.com/news/local/polk-cou...her-mill-creek
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Well I guess we're about to see if the Alec Baldwin defense will work for a poor black person.

    tl;dr: a black woman was shoplifting at a Home Depot. A loss prevention dude confronted her, she pulled out a gun and shot him in the chest, killing him. She is now claiming the gun went off by accident.

    Do poor black people get to use the lame argument of "It was just an accident!" and get away with their crime? Or is that benefit afforded only to rich white liberals?
    There is a difference between someone committing a theft and shooting someone and someone being unsafe on a movie set. She was committing a crime when someone died because of the actions of her crime. If she just pulled it and he had a heart attack and died it would still be 2nd Degree murder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    First I'm hearing of this. All I ever heard was that the FBI tested the gun and said that Alec Killer 100% lied when he said all he did was pull the hammer back and never pulled the trigger.
    You don't know that he pulled the trigger.

    • Baldwin says that the did not pull the trigger.
    • The FBI says the gun could not fire without pulling the trigger when it is working properly.
    • The FBI says the gun fired during their tests without pulling the trigger.
    • The FBI destroyed the firing mechanism during their tests. Nobody will be able to double check their work.
    • Newly discovered evidence, which has been in the possession of prosecutors since they began their investigation, shows that the gun was modified before being brought onto the movie set in a way that might cause it to misfire.


    If pulling the trigger is a necessary element of the prosecution's case, then they could never prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he pulled the trigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClydeR View Post
    The FBI says the gun could not fire without pulling the trigger when it is working properly.
    The FBI says the gun fired during their tests without pulling the trigger.
    You're either being completely disingenuous or are lying. Or maybe both.

    Here is a link from USA Today, I know a far right leaning tabloid so I understand your skepticism:

    The report, released by Special Agent Jose Cortez, reveals the FBI did three accidental discharge tests of the firearm used by Baldwin to determine if it could have fired without a trigger being pulled.

    Each test — with the hammer at rest, with the hammer in the quarter- and half-cock positions and with the hammer at full cock position — resulted in the same conclusion that the gun would not have fired "without a pull of the trigger."

    During the testing of the gun by the FBI, authorities said portions of the gun's trigger sear and cylinder stop fractured while the hammer was struck. That allowed the hammer to fall and the firing pin to detonate the primer.

    "This was the only successful discharge during this testing and it was attributed to the fracture of internal components, not the failure of the firearm or safety mechanisms," the report stated.
    And this is what ALL the media reported on. I haven't seen anything which contradicts this in regards to the FBI testing.

    So it ONLY fired AFTER parts of the internal components were damaged DURING THEIR TESTS. Your dumb ass made it sound like the gun was already damaged while in Alec Killer's possession. The FBI is saying it was damaged during THEIR tests.

    Feel free to call the FBI liars, which you know makes you an enemy of the state if you do, but at least don't be a lying sack of shit when you're quoting their findings, because like I said originally, the FBI tests prove that Alec Killer was 100% lying when he said he never pulled the trigger.
    Last edited by Tgo01; 04-22-2023 at 05:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    You're either being completely disingenuous or are lying. Or maybe both.

    Here is a link from USA Today, I know a far right leaning tabloid so I understand your skepticism:



    And this is what ALL the media reported on. I haven't seen anything which contradicts this in regards to the FBI testing.

    So it ONLY fired AFTER parts of the internal components were damaged DURING THEIR TESTS. Your dumb ass made it sound like the gun was already damaged while in Alec Killer's possession. The FBI is saying it was damaged during THEIR tests.

    Feel free to call the FBI liars, which you know makes you an enemy of the state if you do, but at least don't be a lying sack of shit when you're quoting their findings, because like I said originally, the FBI tests prove that Alec Killer was 100% lying when he said he never pulled the trigger.
    Just why are you trying so desperately to make yet another conspiracy surrounding a political target you hate? Evidence supported the charge being dismissed, end of story. You can make up whatever narrative you want, but it doesn't change reality.

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